Re: fc25 --> fc31

On Wed, 15 Apr 2020 16:52:31 -0700 Samuel Sieb wrote: > What do you mean by "non-trivial"? In my experience "non trivial" means that over time they alter the way stuff is stored and if you try to use old enough data on a new enough program, it barfs in magical and unrecognisable ways.

Re: fc25 --> fc31

On 4/15/20 4:40 PM, John Mellor wrote:  On 2020-04-15 16:13, José Abílio Matos wrote: > . . . > The only profile he has it Firefox.  I do not think he even has any docs or pictures, but I will check. Firefox can be tricky to restore, as it uses a non-trivial directory path to keep

Re: fc25 --> fc31

 On 2020-04-15 16:13, José Abílio Matos wrote: > . . . > The only profile he has it Firefox.  I do not think he even has any docs or pictures, but I will check. Firefox can be tricky to restore, as it uses a non-trivial directory path to keep everything.  If he is on any of the latest

Re: fc25 --> fc31

On 2020-04-15 16:13, José Abílio Matos wrote: On Wednesday, 15 April 2020 23.41.49 WEST ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > Hi All, > > Is it possible to upgrade FC25 to FC31? > > Any special instructions? Or just the usual? > > > Many thanks, > -T Just like Ed I would strongly

Re: fc25 --> fc31

On 2020-04-15 15:57, Ed Greshko wrote: On 2020-04-16 06:54, Ed Greshko wrote: On 2020-04-16 06:41, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Hi All, Is it possible to upgrade FC25 to FC31? Any special instructions?  Or just the usual? I'd have to go back and research it for you, but I don't believe

Re: fc25 --> fc31

On Wednesday, 15 April 2020 23.41.49 WEST ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > Hi All, > > Is it possible to upgrade FC25 to FC31? > > Any special instructions? Or just the usual? > > > Many thanks, > -T Just like Ed I would strongly recommend a backup of important data. In order to minimize the

Re: fc25 --> fc31

On 2020-04-16 06:54, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 2020-04-16 06:41, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: >> Hi All, >> >> Is it possible to upgrade FC25 to FC31? >> >> Any special instructions?  Or just the usual? >> > I'd have to go back and research it for you, but I don't believe that F25 had > the dnf

Re: fc25 --> fc31

On 2020-04-16 06:41, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > Hi All, > > Is it possible to upgrade FC25 to FC31? > > Any special instructions?  Or just the usual? > I'd have to go back and research it for you, but I don't believe that F25 had the dnf functions to upgrade. As I recall, it had "fedup".

fc25 --> fc31

Hi All, Is it possible to upgrade FC25 to FC31? Any special instructions? Or just the usual? Many thanks, -T ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code

Re: What download image for i686

On Wed, Apr 15, 2020 at 4:23 PM Igor Bezrodnik wrote: > Hello ! fedoraproject.org drop support for i686 from f30 but you can > find iso for f30 > > https://archives.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora-secondary/releases/30/Spins/i386/iso/Fedora-KDE-Live-i386-30-1.2.iso > still supported for mouth or so

RE: What are the differences between RHEL and Fedora Server?

-Original Message- From: ToddAndMargo via users Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2020 9:19 PM To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org Cc: ToddAndMargo Subject: Re: What are the differences between RHEL and Fedora Server? On 2020-04-15 07:10, Tim via users wrote: > Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming

Re: What are the differences between RHEL and Fedora Server?

On 04/15/2020 12:50 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: There is no such authoritative ranking And if there were, why would anybody trust it? Maybe there could be something like Rotten Tomatoes, that takes other site's rankings and generates an overall ranking, but there will always be people who

Re: What are the differences between RHEL and Fedora Server?

On 2020-04-15 02:08, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote: On 2020-04-15 04:39, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: And thank you for not foisting the latest Firefox and Thunderbird on us with all the weird bugs they introduced. I am not using Firefox and Thunderbird at the moment. I have been

Re: What are the differences between RHEL and Fedora Server?

On 2020-04-15 07:31, George N. White III wrote: In the past, CERN has provided scientific packages for CentOS (these also worked in RHEL). When I used it, they just waited for CentOS and then put their own polish on it. I loved the crowd over on their forums

Re: What are the differences between RHEL and Fedora Server?

On 2020-04-15 02:27, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote: RHEL clones as in CentOS? Yes, and scientific Linux as well. Scientific Linux is also a clone of RHEL? Is it free too? I haven't heard much of it so I guess it is not very popular. If is basically rebranded CentOS with a few

Re: What are the differences between RHEL and Fedora Server?

On 2020-04-15 07:10, Tim via users wrote: Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote: Where can I find a good and reliable ranking of all the Linux distros in the world then? My advice is pick one that has useful user support. Something you can access and understand. And there is always the

Re: What are the differences between RHEL and Fedora Server?

On Wed, Apr 15, 2020 at 08:09:23PM +0800, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote: > Where can I find a good and reliable ranking of all the Linux > distros in the world then? > > What are the top 5? There is no such authoritative ranking, and everyone's view of "top five" will be different, which

Re: dnf update question

On Wed, 15 Apr 2020 11:25:47 +0100 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Tue, 2020-04-14 at 16:24 -0700, stan via users wrote: > > On Tue, 14 Apr 2020 23:53:58 +0100 > > Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > > > > The up-arrow thing is a convenience of the Bash Shell (and > > > probably most other Shells

Re: What download image for i686

On 4/15/20 7:22 AM, Fulko Hew wrote: I recently acquired an old HP Mini 110 with an Intel Atom N270 CPU. Trying my default Fedora install told me it couldn't boot the X86_64 version, so I guess I need an i686 version. Scouring getfedora.org and archives.fedoraproject.org

Where has access to windows workgroups gone?

caja, dolphin, konqueror, thunar and nautilus all fail to connect to the windows systems on the local network.  I can connect with smbclient and cifs in a terminal but that doesn't allow the full capability of click and drag to move files and examine them. Is athere something I am missing

Question On Mingw Binaries

Gentle People:    I normally use CentOS7, but I was disappointed to discover that RH had removed the mingw binaries from their normal CentOS Archive. Claiming that they were out of date and full of bugs and security holes? H?    RH said to use the Fedora Mingw binaries, but did not say which

Question On Mingw Binaries

Gentle People:    I normally use CentOS7, but I was disappointed to discover that RH had removed the mingw binaries from their normal CentOS Archive. Claiming that they were out of date and full of bugs and security holes? H?    RH said to use the Fedora Mingw binaries, but did not say which

[389-users] Re: New Instance errors

Hi, On Fri, Apr 10, 2020 at 11:48 PM Nick Bright wrote: > Greetings, > > I've performed a fresh CentOS 8 installation within VMWare, updated the OS > fully, installed 389-ds through yum by: yum module install > 389-directory-server:stable/default > > This installed the server, along with the

Any one have luck putting Fedora on a Beaglebone Black?

So yeah, it's older but I got it for free and wanted to see if I could use it. From what I can tell the armv7 images should work on it. arm-image-installer does some extra "magic" for the am355x processor but it won't boot it. If I hold down the button while I plug it in, nothing happens. No

Re: selinux issues -- for test system/httpd user access

NB: On this list, we don't top-post, we comment under what we're replying to, like I'll do below. Also, remove things that don't need to be quoted, we don't need messages that get ever-longer. bruce wrote: > I'm not looking at fedora/centos as a sysAdmin. I'm coming at the OS > as a means to get

Re: What download image for i686

On Wed, Apr 15, 2020 at 8:24 AM Fulko Hew wrote: > I recently acquired an old HP Mini 110 with an Intel Atom N270 CPU. > Trying my default Fedora install told me it couldn't boot the X86_64 > version, so I guess I need an i686 version. > > Scouring getfedora.org and archives.fedoraproject.org, I

Re: What are the differences between RHEL and Fedora Server?

On Wed, 15 Apr 2020 at 11:13, Tim via users wrote: > Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote: > > Scientific Linux is also a clone of RHEL? Is it free too? I haven't > > heard much of it so I guess it is not very popular. > > It's tailored to a specific community, not exclusively, but there's a >

What download image for i686

I recently acquired an old HP Mini 110 with an Intel Atom N270 CPU. Trying my default Fedora install told me it couldn't boot the X86_64 version, so I guess I need an i686 version. Scouring getfedora.org and archives.fedoraproject.org, I don't see one. I thought F30 still worked on 32 bit. Where

Re: What are the differences between RHEL and Fedora Server?

On Wed, 15 Apr 2020 at 10:30, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming < c...@teo-en-ming.com> wrote: > On 2020-04-15 20:20, Frederic Muller wrote: > > On 4/15/20 7:09 PM, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote: > >> > >> Where can I find a good and reliable ranking of all the Linux distros > >> in the

Re: What are the differences between RHEL and Fedora Server?

Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote: > Scientific Linux is also a clone of RHEL? Is it free too? I haven't > heard much of it so I guess it is not very popular. It's tailored to a specific community, not exclusively, but there's a definite bias. -- uname -rsvp Linux

Re: What are the differences between RHEL and Fedora Server?

Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote: > Where can I find a good and reliable ranking of all the Linux distros > in the world then? My advice is pick one that has useful user support. Something you can access and understand. -- uname -rsvp Linux 3.10.0-1062.18.1.el7.x86_64 #1 SMP Tue Mar 17

Re: What are the differences between RHEL and Fedora Server?

On 4/15/20 8:29 PM, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote: > On 2020-04-15 20:20, Frederic Muller wrote: >> On 4/15/20 7:09 PM, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote: >>> >>> Where can I find a good and reliable ranking of all the Linux distros >>> in the world then? >>> >>> What are the top 5? >>

Re: What are the differences between RHEL and Fedora Server?

On 2020-04-15 20:20, Frederic Muller wrote: On 4/15/20 7:09 PM, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote: Where can I find a good and reliable ranking of all the Linux distros in the world then? What are the top 5? There is no such thing. It really depends on what you want to do, what you are

Re: What are the differences between RHEL and Fedora Server?

On 2020-04-15 20:18, J.Witvliet--- via users wrote: -Original Message- From: Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2020 2:09 PM To: Community support for Fedora users Cc: Witvliet, J, Ing., DMO/JIVC/GIT/ITT ; c...@teo-en-ming.com Subject: Re: What are the

Re: What are the differences between RHEL and Fedora Server?

On 4/15/20 7:09 PM, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote: > > Where can I find a good and reliable ranking of all the Linux distros > in the world then? > > What are the top 5? There is no such thing. It really depends on what you want to do, what you are familiar with, the support you expect

RE: What are the differences between RHEL and Fedora Server?

-Original Message- From: Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2020 2:09 PM To: Community support for Fedora users Cc: Witvliet, J, Ing., DMO/JIVC/GIT/ITT ; c...@teo-en-ming.com Subject: Re: What are the differences between RHEL and Fedora Server? On 2020-04-15

Re: What are the differences between RHEL and Fedora Server?

On 2020-04-15 19:37, J.Witvliet--- via users wrote: -Original Message- Everything I said was true. I even gave an example or how RHEL harmed me financially. Maybe I should not be so blunt next time? Is distrowatch.com giving a good and reliable ranking of all the Linux distros in

RE: What are the differences between RHEL and Fedora Server?

-Original Message- > Everything I said was true. I even gave an example > or how RHEL harmed me financially. > > Maybe I should not be so blunt next time? Is distrowatch.com giving a good and reliable ranking of all the Linux distros in the world? NO. It only counts the times THEY

Re: What are the differences between RHEL and Fedora Server?

On Wed, 2020-04-15 at 16:54 +0800, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote: > What is ABI? Application Binary Interface. It means that older programs will continue to run without recompilation when newer versions of the system come out. Linux intentionally does not guarantee this, though some

Re: dnf update question

On Tue, 2020-04-14 at 16:24 -0700, stan via users wrote: > On Tue, 14 Apr 2020 23:53:58 +0100 > Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > > > I am aware, that all I have to do is hit the up arrow key, and it > > > will type the > > > last used commands. > > > The up-arrow thing is a convenience of the

Re: selinux issues -- for test system/httpd user access

Hey Tim!! Thanks so much for the replies. This is exactly what I was hoping to find.Someone willing to kind of add to my lack of knowledge. Your comments about copying files .vs moving files was/is gold. That's the kind of thing that wouldn't have crossed my mind to even think about. I'm not

Re: What are the differences between RHEL and Fedora Server?

On 2020-04-15 16:50, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 2020-04-15 01:39, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote: On 2020-04-15 03:15, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 2020-04-14 02:01, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote: Good afternoon from Singapore, What are the differences between RHEL

Re: What are the differences between RHEL and Fedora Server?

On 2020-04-15 09:35, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 2020-04-14 16:24, Matthew Miller wrote: On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 02:21:20PM -0700, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Yes, which is why RHEL is not the best choice for you. I'm OK with that, but there's no reason to take it so personally.

Re: What are the differences between RHEL and Fedora Server?

On 2020-04-15 04:39, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 2020-04-14 13:31, Matthew Miller wrote: On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 01:35:16PM -0600, Joe Zeff wrote: That's a rather biased way to describe RHEL. I think it's more objective to describe Fedora as a bleeding edge test bed where new programs

Re: What are the differences between RHEL and Fedora Server?

On 2020-04-15 03:50, DJ Delorie wrote: ToddAndMargo via users writes: The idea is that you can rely on things, including the locked in bugs, As someone who has a full time job fixing bugs in RHEL, I can emphatically state that this is not the case at all. If you want a bug fixed in RHEL,

Re: What are the differences between RHEL and Fedora Server?

On 2020-04-15 01:39, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote: On 2020-04-15 03:15, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 2020-04-14 02:01, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote: Good afternoon from Singapore, What are the differences between RHEL and Fedora Server? Because I think both RHEL and

Re: What are the differences between RHEL and Fedora Server?

Noting that Fedora is released every 6 months while RHEL is released every 3 years... On 2020-04-15 03:35, Joe Zeff wrote: On 04/14/2020 01:15 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: RHEL is a defunct, locked down version of Fedora, bugs and all.  The idea is that you can rely on things, including

Re: What are the differences between RHEL and Fedora Server?

On 2020-04-15 03:15, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 2020-04-14 02:01, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote: Good afternoon from Singapore, What are the differences between RHEL and Fedora Server? Because I think both RHEL and Fedora Server are from Red Hat Inc. When do I use RHEL? When

Re: What are the differences between RHEL and Fedora Server?

Noted with thanks. On 2020-04-15 00:53, Matthew Miller wrote: On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 05:01:50PM +0800, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote: What are the differences between RHEL and Fedora Server? Because I think both RHEL and Fedora Server are from Red Hat Inc. Fedora Server is from the

Re: selinux issues -- for test system/httpd user access

On Tue, 2020-04-14 at 14:01 -0400, bruce wrote: > I've already got the VM, test users, httpd, etc.. And things run with > selinux disabled. > > Now it's time to take the jump, and engage selinux! Actually, that's going to be your biggest problem. If you've set up and run things with it off,

Re: selinux issues -- for test system/httpd user access

On 4/14/20 5:26 PM, bruce wrote: All I can say at this time.. Thanks... I guess... ps. If/When I figure this all out, I'll post the cmds/order of running the selinux cmds to accomplish my goal of being able to ensure the httpd process can manage the files, as well as having users being able