Re: formail - Re: Fedora 32 no MTA, CRON output and procmail

On 2020-05-11 11:33, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > I almost have it... > > On 5/10/20 7:03 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: >> I have been digging for how to do today and found something interesting: >> >> Back in Fedora 20, there was no MTA! >> >>

Re: user crontab

On 2020-05-07 06:00, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > I know I can edit the user crontab with: > > crontab -e > > and display it with > > crontab -l > > But where is it?  I don't see anything like ~/.crontab > > Secondly, and more importantly, is getting a email from the user crontab.  I > have in my

formail - Re: Fedora 32 no MTA, CRON output and procmail

I almost have it... On 5/10/20 7:03 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: I have been digging for how to do today and found something interesting: Back in Fedora 20, there was no MTA! https://www.mhonarc.org/archive/html/procmail/2014-01/msg0.html I worked on cron outbut via procmail way back then

Re: Fedora 32 MTA

On Sunday, May 10, 2020 5:45:43 AM MST George N. White III wrote: > On Sat, 9 May 2020 at 19:11, John M. Harris Jr wrote: > > On Saturday, May 9, 2020 2:02:11 PM MST Geoffrey Leach wrote: > > > I noticed that sendmail and mailx are not installed with the basic > > > workstation. Is there another

Re: Power Mgmt problem

On 05/10/2020 08:21 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: No, that was just me adding myself to watch what happens.  I think you need to find a better component though, maybe the kernel, because it's clearly not an xfce problem and I don't know how closely xfce bugs are watched by maintainers. I think (and

Re: Power Mgmt problem

On 5/10/20 7:13 PM, Christopher Marlow wrote: On Sun, 2020-05-10 at 18:07 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote: After pressing CTRL-ALT-F3, what happens if you turn the monitor off and on? Check if the CAPS lock key toggles the light when pressed. Do you have another monitor around that you can test

Re: Power Mgmt problem

On Sun, 2020-05-10 at 18:07 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote: > > After pressing CTRL-ALT-F3, what happens if you turn the monitor off > and > on? Check if the CAPS lock key toggles the light when pressed. > Do you have another monitor around that you can test with? >

Re: Power Mgmt problem

On 5/10/20 5:53 PM, Christopher Marlow wrote: On Sun, 2020-05-10 at 19:46 -0500, ch...@cwm030.com wrote: -Original Message- From: francis.montag...@inria.fr Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2020 2:54pm To: "Community support for Fedora users" < users@lists.fedoraproject.org> Subject: Re: Power

Re: Power Mgmt problem

On Sun, 2020-05-10 at 19:46 -0500, ch...@cwm030.com wrote: > > -Original Message- > From: francis.montag...@inria.fr > Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2020 2:54pm > To: "Community support for Fedora users" < > users@lists.fedoraproject.org> > Subject: Re: Power Mgmt problem > > > Hi > > On Sun,

Fedora 32 no MTA, CRON output and procmail

I have been digging for how to do today and found something interesting: Back in Fedora 20, there was no MTA! https://www.mhonarc.org/archive/html/procmail/2014-01/msg0.html I worked on cron outbut via procmail way back then and used: CRONDARGS=-m "/usr/bin/procmail -f cron" So I just

Re: Working! - Re: user crontab

On 5/10/20 6:51 PM, Cameron Simpson wrote: On 10May2020 13:36, Robert Moskowitz wrote: It is entirely true. The collapsing happens when you _use_ the values:    # all safe and reliable    $ a=$( date +'%a %b %d %T %Y')    $ b=$( date +'%a  %b  %d  %T  Y')    $ c=$b    # unquoted use    $

Re: Working! - Re: user crontab

On 10May2020 13:36, Robert Moskowitz wrote: It is entirely true. The collapsing happens when you _use_ the values:    # all safe and reliable    $ a=$( date +'%a %b %d %T %Y')    $ b=$( date +'%a  %b  %d  %T  Y')    $ c=$b    # unquoted use    $ echo $a    Sat May 09 14:37:07 2020    $ echo

Re: How do you Dual boot with Intel RST - Optane ?

On 5/9/20 9:12 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 5/9/20 3:38 PM, sean darcy wrote: And it works. I can now dual boot, and Windows is a LOT faster. Oh, the irony... Absolutely. Why in the world would Dell sell an nvme laptop provisioned with RST ?

Re: Power Mgmt problem

I filed a bug report.. I hope that this gets squashed and fixed really fast... This bug is happening to me in XFCE and KDE. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1833809 Chris ch...@cwm030.com ___ users mailing list --

Re: Power Mgmt problem

Hi On Sun, 10 May 2020 13:43:05 -0500 Christopher Marlow wrote: > So even after a complete nuke and pave and even switched from XFCE back > to KDE the monitor is still doing the same thing.. I am having to power > off the monitor and hold a key on the keyboard and then power the > monitor back

Re: 5.6 kernel is slower to boot

On 05/10/2020 05:52 AM, Sreyan Chakravarty wrote: Ok here is my full systemd-blame: https://pastebin.com/raw/ngsF5NUv FWIW, you can ignore anything that takes less than a second. You can probably mask NetworkManager-wait-online and can definitely mask ModemManager unless you're actually

Re: Power Mgmt problem

So even after a complete nuke and pave and even switched from XFCE back to KDE the monitor is still doing the same thing.. I am having to power off the monitor and hold a key on the keyboard and then power the monitor back on. Its either the Intergrated graphics card or its gotta be Fedora 32? One

Re: Fedora 32 MTA

On 5/10/20 1:48 PM, Fred Smith wrote: On Sun, May 10, 2020 at 01:25:38PM -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 5/10/20 1:05 PM, Geoffrey Leach wrote: On Sun, 10 May 2020 12:20:44 -0400 Jonathan Billings wrote: On May 10, 2020, at 11:54, George N. White III wrote:  On Sun, 10 May 2020 at

Re: Fedora 32 MTA

On Sun, May 10, 2020 at 01:25:38PM -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > > > On 5/10/20 1:05 PM, Geoffrey Leach wrote: > >On Sun, 10 May 2020 12:20:44 -0400 > >Jonathan Billings wrote: > > > >>On May 10, 2020, at 11:54, George N. White III > >>wrote: > >>> > On Sun, 10 May 2020 at 12:00,

Re: Working! - Re: user crontab

On 5/9/20 12:41 AM, Cameron Simpson wrote: On 08May2020 20:32, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 5/8/20 4:32 PM, Cameron Simpson wrote: On 08May2020 11:15, Robert Moskowitz wrote: I added inserting a Date: line and switched to using sed: local]# cat mycron #!/bin/sh currentDate="$(date +'%a %b %d

Re: Fedora 32 MTA

On 5/10/20 1:05 PM, Geoffrey Leach wrote: On Sun, 10 May 2020 12:20:44 -0400 Jonathan Billings wrote: On May 10, 2020, at 11:54, George N. White III wrote:  On Sun, 10 May 2020 at 12:00, Jonathan Billings wrote: On May 10, 2020, at 08:47, George N. White III wrote: Linux

Re: Fedora 32 MTA

On Sun, 10 May 2020 12:20:44 -0400 Jonathan Billings wrote: > On May 10, 2020, at 11:54, George N. White III > wrote: > > > >  > >> On Sun, 10 May 2020 at 12:00, Jonathan Billings > >> wrote: > > > >> On May 10, 2020, at 08:47, George N. White III > >> wrote: > >> > Linux

Re: Fedora 32 MTA

On 5/10/20 12:20 PM, Jonathan Billings wrote: On May 10, 2020, at 11:54, George N. White III wrote:  On Sun, 10 May 2020 at 12:00, Jonathan Billings > wrote: On May 10, 2020, at 08:47, George N. White III mailto:gnw...@gmail.com>> wrote: > Linux

Re: Fedora 32 MTA

On Sun, 10 May 2020 12:53:12 -0300 "George N. White III" wrote: > On Sun, 10 May 2020 at 12:00, Jonathan Billings > wrote: > > > On May 10, 2020, at 08:47, George N. White III > > wrote: > > > Linux development today is mostly funded by big businesses and > > governments. > > > Large

Re: Fedora 32 MTA

On May 10, 2020, at 11:54, George N. White III wrote: > >  >> On Sun, 10 May 2020 at 12:00, Jonathan Billings wrote: > >> On May 10, 2020, at 08:47, George N. White III wrote: >> > Linux development today is mostly funded by big businesses and >> > governments. >> > Large enterprises have

Re: Fedora 32 MTA

On Sun, 10 May 2020 at 12:00, Jonathan Billings wrote: > On May 10, 2020, at 08:47, George N. White III wrote: > > Linux development today is mostly funded by big businesses and > governments. > > Large enterprises have tight controls over email for security, legal, > and business > >

Re: Power Mgmt problem

On Sat, 2020-05-09 at 19:18 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote: > On 5/9/20 4:04 PM, Christopher Marlow wrote: > > Nope that didnt fix it... My monitor still blinks on and off when > > coming back to the computer after being away for a couple hours. > > > > I just came back to the computer and the screen

Re: Fedora 32 MTA

On May 10, 2020, at 08:47, George N. White III wrote: > Linux development today is mostly funded by big businesses and governments. > Large enterprises have tight controls over email for security, legal, and > business > continuity reasons. Those controls could break down if MTA's are

Re: What process rolls the log files Saturday night?

On May 10, 2020, at 01:20, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > > I see that my various log files have been rolled over at midnight. > > But looking at the old and new cron, I can't see anything other than the > hourly anacron running and not seemingly doing anything... > > So what did this? Not

Re: Calc to excel -

On 2020-05-10 10:16, Kevin Becker wrote: Excel 2016 for macOS will open ODS files. ° Dunno what version she has. I assumed the file needed conversion, I'll try that. I found the drop down for the Save As save format, I had to use a hand magnifier on my 27" screen but it was there and it

Re: Lots of files in /tmp

On 5/10/20 10:24 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: I was looking in /tmp (why may be another question for later) and found a LOT of files like these:   4 -rw---.  1 rgm  rgm    1566 May 10 01:29 nscopy-85.tmp   4 -rw---.  1 rgm  rgm    2146 May 10 01:31 nsemail-86.html   4 -rw---.  1

Re: Lots of files in /tmp

On 2020-05-10 22:24, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > I was looking in /tmp (why may be another question for later) and found a LOT > of files like these: > > >   4 -rw---.  1 rgm  rgm    1566 May 10 01:29 nscopy-85.tmp >   4 -rw---.  1 rgm  rgm    2146 May 10 01:31 nsemail-86.html >   4

Lots of files in /tmp

I was looking in /tmp (why may be another question for later) and found a LOT of files like these:   4 -rw---.  1 rgm  rgm    1566 May 10 01:29 nscopy-85.tmp   4 -rw---.  1 rgm  rgm    2146 May 10 01:31 nsemail-86.html   4 -rw---.  1 rgm  rgm    1412 May 10 01:31 nsmail-88.tmp   4

Re: Calc to excel -

Excel 2016 for macOS will open ODS files. https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/office/file-formats-supported-in-excel-for-mac-f9970726-bb98-489c-afe2-6d876873945a?ui=en-us=en-us=us On Sun, 2020-05-10 at 09:46 -0400, Bob Goodwin wrote: > Is there a fedora scheme for making an LibreOffice calc

Re: Calc to excel -

On 5/10/20 8:52 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 2020-05-10 21:46, Bob Goodwin wrote: >> Is there a fedora scheme for making an LibreOffice calc file acceptable to >> excel in my daughter's Mac computer. Cal produces .ods and from what I have >> found excel wants xls or xslx according to goole? I see

Re: Calc to excel -

On 2020-05-10 21:46, Bob Goodwin wrote: > Is there a fedora scheme for making an LibreOffice calc file acceptable to > excel in my daughter's Mac computer. Cal produces .ods and from what I have > found excel wants xls or xslx according to goole? I see some web sites that  > claim to do the 

Calc to excel -

Is there a fedora scheme for making an LibreOffice calc file acceptable to excel in my daughter's Mac computer. Cal produces .ods and from what I have found excel wants xls or xslx according to goole? I see some web sites that claim to do the conversion on line, not really what I want to do.

Re: Fedora 32 MTA

On Sat, 9 May 2020 at 19:11, John M. Harris Jr wrote: > On Saturday, May 9, 2020 2:02:11 PM MST Geoffrey Leach wrote: > > I noticed that sendmail and mailx are not installed with the basic > > workstation. Is there another MTA installed? > > I hope this is fixed in future Fedora.. This is just

Re: 5.6 kernel is slower to boot

On 2020-05-10 19:52, Sreyan Chakravarty wrote: > > > On 5/10/20 2:25 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: >> systemd-analyze blame >> >> to see what process is taking the longest. >> >> systemd-analyze time > > Ok here is my full systemd-blame: > > https://pastebin.com/raw/ngsF5NUv > > Is it normal for

Re: network manager is killing me!

On Sat, May 9, 2020 at 4:02 PM Tom Horsley wrote: > > Thought I had everything working. I had created a 2nd > bridge for use with virtual machines I want to keep > off my local lan (one of the VMs operating as a > firewall with two ethernets). > > Then I rebooted after installing updates, and I

Re: Run rpm %preun script in unconfined SELinux context

Samuel Sieb writes: On 5/9/20 9:45 PM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: There is no issue using "systemctl stop" to stop the entire group of processes, only with using a script that attempts to signal one of process to gracefully shut itself down. Looking for ideas how to get this working. I think

Re: Run rpm %preun script in unconfined SELinux context

Gordon Messmer writes: On 5/9/20 9:45 PM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: Raw Audit Messages type=AVC msg=audit(1589082060.526:1156): avc:  denied  { signal } for  pid=672912 comm="courierlogger" scontext=unconfined_u:unconfined_r:system_mail_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023

Re: 5.6 kernel is slower to boot

Is there a Gnome team for Fedora that I can reach out to? On Sun, May 10, 2020 at 2:26 PM Ed Greshko wrote: > On 2020-05-10 16:37, Sreyan Chakravarty wrote: > > I have just upgraded to Fedora 32 and am using the latest 5.6.10-300 > kernel. But I am seeing that is slower to boot than the 5.5

Re: 5.6 kernel is slower to boot

On 5/10/20 2:25 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: systemd-analyze blame to see what process is taking the longest. systemd-analyze time Ok here is my full systemd-blame: https://pastebin.com/raw/ngsF5NUv Is it normal for init-queue service to take so long ? 1min 37.191s dracut-initqueue.service

Re: fedora 32: no hibernate/resume

On 5/10/20 5:18 PM, fedora wrote: I am using a swap partition. Thats strange it should work out of the box. Have you checked if there are any SELinux related access problems ? -- Regards, Sreyan ___ users mailing list --

Re: fedora 32: no hibernate/resume

Hi Sreyan I am using a swap partition. suomi On 10/05/2020 13.17, Sreyan Chakravarty wrote: On 5/10/20 4:34 PM, fedora wrote: suspend works fine on this machine, but hibernate does›nt. Are you using a swap file or partition ? ___ users mailing

Re: Why do I have 4 kernels when the install limit is 3 ?

On 2020-05-10 19:15, Sreyan Chakravarty wrote: > > On 5/10/20 2:28 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: >> I don't used gnome software tools to update.  However, I think I read that >> the gnome stuff does now >> use dnf. > Yeah, I want to do the same. Could you please share the dnf commands you use > for an

Re: Why do I have 4 kernels when the install limit is 3 ?

On 2020-05-10 19:12, Sreyan Chakravarty wrote: > > On 5/10/20 2:52 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: >> One does have to ask, at some time did you modify /etc/dnf/dnf.conf  to >> exclude that kernel? > > No I did no such thing. > OK.  It is not uncommon to make configuration changes and then at sometime in

Re: fedora 32: no hibernate/resume

On 5/10/20 4:34 PM, fedora wrote: suspend works fine on this machine, but hibernate does›nt. Are you using a swap file or partition ? -- Regards, Sreyan ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to

Re: Why do I have 4 kernels when the install limit is 3 ?

On 5/10/20 2:28 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: I don't used gnome software tools to update.  However, I think I read that the gnome stuff does now use dnf. Yeah, I want to do the same. Could you please share the dnf commands you use for an upgrade and a full distribution upgrade(Upgrading from F31 to

Re: Why do I have 4 kernels when the install limit is 3 ?

On 5/10/20 2:52 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: One does have to ask, at some time did you modify /etc/dnf/dnf.conf  to exclude that kernel? No I did no such thing. -- Regards, Sreyan ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe

Re: AMD GPU not used by Fedora 31

On 5/8/20 1:58 AM, Samuel Sieb wrote: https://askubuntu.com/a/1056431 I have read through the post and need your help in a couple of areas. 1) What is the difference between VGA compatible controller and Display Controller in the output of lspci: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel

Re: fedora 32: no hibernate/resume

On Sun, 2020-05-10 at 12:21 +0200, fedora wrote: > [cellino@caprioli ~]$ cat /proc/cmdline > > BOOT_IMAGE=(hd3,gpt5)/boot/vmlinuz-5.6.10-300.fc32.x86_64 > > root=UUID=3f218a1e-7f30-48b1-add4-fb17bff5a6b5 ro > > resume=UUID=0d51db0e-8463-4741-8bbe-d907fb2b1cb2 > > [cellino@caprioli ~]$ > >

fedora 32: no hibernate/resume

Hi everybody Environment here: [root@caprioli ~]# cat /etc/fedora-release Fedora release 32 (Thirty Two) [root@caprioli ~]# root@caprioli ~]# uname -r 5.6.10-300.fc32.x86_64 [root@caprioli ~]# [root@caprioli ~]# grub2-editenv - list

Re: Why do I have 4 kernels when the install limit is 3 ?

On 2020-05-10 03:00, Sreyan Chakravarty wrote: > > > So then why do I have 4 kernels ? > > $ rpm -q kernel > kernel-5.3.7-301.fc31.x86_64 > kernel-5.5.15-200.fc31.x86_64 > kernel-5.6.8-200.fc31.x86_64 > kernel-5.6.10-300.fc32.x86_64 The follow-on question would be what do you get for dnf list

Re: Why do I have 4 kernels when the install limit is 3 ?

On 2020-05-10 16:38, Sreyan Chakravarty wrote: > > On 5/10/20 1:18 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: >> Did you ever install a kernel directly with rpm or dnf or has it always been >> through dnf upgrades? > > > All the upgrades I have done is throuugh GNOME software. I didn't use dnf > upgrade. Do you

Re: Why do I have 4 kernels when the install limit is 3 ?

On 2020-05-10 16:38, Sreyan Chakravarty wrote: > > On 5/10/20 1:18 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: >> Did you ever install a kernel directly with rpm or dnf or has it always been >> through dnf upgrades? > > > All the upgrades I have done is throuugh GNOME software. I didn't use dnf > upgrade. Do you

Re: 5.6 kernel is slower to boot

On 2020-05-10 16:37, Sreyan Chakravarty wrote: > I have just upgraded to Fedora 32 and am using the latest 5.6.10-300 kernel. > But I am seeing that is slower to boot than the 5.5 kernel that I was using  > in Fedora 31. > > For example, when I enter my LUKS password, it takes a good 30 seconds

Fedora 32: hibernate/resume does not work

Hi everybody Environment here: [root@caprioli ~]# cat /etc/fedora-release Fedora release 32 (Thirty Two) [root@caprioli ~]# root@caprioli ~]# uname -r 5.6.10-300.fc32.x86_64 [root@caprioli ~]# [root@caprioli ~]# grub2-editenv - list

Re: Why do I have 4 kernels when the install limit is 3 ?

On 5/10/20 1:18 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: Did you ever install a kernel directly with rpm or dnf or has it always been through dnf upgrades? All the upgrades I have done is throuugh GNOME software. I didn't use dnf upgrade. Do you think that will cause a problem ? -- Regards, Sreyan

5.6 kernel is slower to boot

Hi, I have just upgraded to Fedora 32 and am using the latest 5.6.10-300 kernel. But I am seeing that is slower to boot than the 5.5 kernel that I was using in Fedora 31. For example, when I enter my LUKS password, it takes a good 30 seconds to start the actual boot process. In 5.5 this use

Re: Why do I have 4 kernels when the install limit is 3 ?

On 5/10/20 12:43 AM, Sreyan Chakravarty wrote: On 5/10/20 12:51 AM, Samuel Sieb wrote: That's a good question.  Watch what happens the next time you have a kernel update. So this is a bug ? I suppose, but it's not a problem as long as it doesn't keep accumulating them. And it's probably

Re: Why do I have 4 kernels when the install limit is 3 ?

On 5/10/20 12:51 AM, Samuel Sieb wrote: That's a good question.  Watch what happens the next time you have a kernel update. So this is a bug ? -- Regards, Sreyan ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email

Re: FreeIPA Users cannot log in via GDM after upgrade to Fedora 32

On Saturday, May 9, 2020 10:03:39 PM MST Thomas Letherby wrote: > Hello, > > Sorry for not replying earlier, I got caught up in work for the week. > > I confirmed the HBAC rules contained gdm and gdm-password. I don't think > it's FreeIPA though as logins work under F31 just fine, but I patched

Re: Run rpm %preun script in unconfined SELinux context

On 5/9/20 9:45 PM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: Raw Audit Messages type=AVC msg=audit(1589082060.526:1156): avc:  denied  { signal } for  pid=672912 comm="courierlogger" scontext=unconfined_u:unconfined_r:system_mail_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 tcontext=system_u:system_r:unconfined_service_t:s0 tclass=process

Re: Run rpm %preun script in unconfined SELinux context

On 5/9/20 9:45 PM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: There is no issue using "systemctl stop" to stop the entire group of processes, only with using a script that attempts to signal one of process to gracefully shut itself down. Looking for ideas how to get this working. I think I need a way to run