Re: My FC33->FC34 bind-chroot upgrade notes

2021-06-15 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 6/15/21 8:03 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: In other words, help them to help you by reproducing it and collecting as much relevant data. If I ever get it figured out, I will report back ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscri

Re: My FC33->FC34 bind-chroot upgrade notes

2021-06-15 Thread Ed Greshko
On 16/06/2021 11:02, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 6/15/21 7:50 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 16/06/2021 10:47, Ed Greshko wrote: And you can see these are not different files. I *mean* "are not the same file". Oh I screwed up a bunch.  What did I post four revisions? My "mistake" was tyin

Re: My FC33->FC34 bind-chroot upgrade notes

2021-06-15 Thread Ed Greshko
On 16/06/2021 11:01, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 6/15/21 7:54 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 16/06/2021 10:49, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 6/15/21 7:00 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 16/06/2021 09:57, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: 2) in their "ultimate wisdom", the rpm maintainers disabled    

Re: My FC33->FC34 bind-chroot upgrade notes

2021-06-15 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 6/15/21 7:50 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 16/06/2021 10:47, Ed Greshko wrote: And you can see these are not different files. I *mean* "are not the same file". Oh I screwed up a bunch. What did I post four revisions? ___ users mailing list -- user

Re: My FC33->FC34 bind-chroot upgrade notes

2021-06-15 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 6/15/21 7:54 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 16/06/2021 10:49, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 6/15/21 7:00 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 16/06/2021 09:57, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: 2) in their "ultimate wisdom", the rpm maintainers disabled    the service after upgrading it.  See the following b

Re: My FC33->FC34 bind-chroot upgrade notes

2021-06-15 Thread Ed Greshko
On 16/06/2021 10:49, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 6/15/21 7:00 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 16/06/2021 09:57, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: 2) in their "ultimate wisdom", the rpm maintainers disabled    the service after upgrading it.  See the following bug I posted    on 2021-06-14: Well, t

Re: My FC33->FC34 bind-chroot upgrade notes

2021-06-15 Thread Ed Greshko
On 16/06/2021 10:47, Ed Greshko wrote: And you can see these are not different files. I *mean* "are not the same file". -- Remind me to ignore comments which aren't germane to the thread. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To uns

Re: Xorg Scaling Issues (Solved)

2021-06-15 Thread Joe Zeff
On 6/15/21 6:02 PM, Stephen Morris wrote: The question I would have is, if Fedora is standardising on Wayland, how long are they going to provide Xorg for? Well, I expect them to provide Xorg as long as Wayland is only able to work with Gnome and KDE, unless they want everybody who uses any of

Re: My FC33->FC34 bind-chroot upgrade notes

2021-06-15 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 6/15/21 7:00 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 16/06/2021 09:57, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: 2) in their "ultimate wisdom", the rpm maintainers disabled    the service after upgrading it.  See the following bug I posted    on 2021-06-14: Well, that didn't happen all my cases of upgrades. So,  I d

Re: My FC33->FC34 bind-chroot upgrade notes

2021-06-15 Thread Ed Greshko
On 16/06/2021 09:55, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Hm.  I screwed up pretty good.  I will do this again. I believe you've made mistakes in other areas. I believe you've added files, with named stopped in (for example) /var/named/chroot/etc. This is a normal running named-chroot system.

Re: My FC33->FC34 bind-chroot upgrade notes

2021-06-15 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 6/15/21 6:57 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 6/14/21 10:00 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Hi All, Thank you all for the enormous help in me getting bind-chroot working after upgrading to Fedora 34.  Here are my notes. Hope this helps someone else. -T I hope this is the last time

Re: My FC33->FC34 bind-chroot upgrade notes

2021-06-15 Thread Ed Greshko
On 15/06/2021 13:00, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Bind-chroot upgrade from FC3 to FC34 disables the service breaking a server https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1972000 Since that BZ lacks much in the area of detail why don't you: 1.  Install F33 in VM. 2.  Configure a named-chroot s

Re: My FC33->FC34 bind-chroot upgrade notes

2021-06-15 Thread Ed Greshko
On 16/06/2021 09:57, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: 2) in their "ultimate wisdom", the rpm maintainers disabled    the service after upgrading it.  See the following bug I posted    on 2021-06-14: Well, that didn't happen all my cases of upgrades. So,  I doubt that was done by the maintainers.

Re: My FC33->FC34 bind-chroot upgrade notes

2021-06-15 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 6/14/21 10:00 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Hi All, Thank you all for the enormous help in me getting bind-chroot working after upgrading to Fedora 34.  Here are my notes. Hope this helps someone else. -T Here are my revised, revised note. Ed had to straighten me out on some boo-boo

Re: My FC33->FC34 bind-chroot upgrade notes

2021-06-15 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 6/15/21 2:30 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 16/06/2021 03:54, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: 3) the new version of bind-chroot enables "dns security validation" by default.    Make sure you do not have two `named.root.key` kicking around.  One in   /etc/named.root.key    and one in   /va

Re: Xorg Scaling Issues (Solved)

2021-06-15 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 2021-06-15 4:58 p.m., Stephen Morris wrote: On 15/6/21 23:42, Ed Greshko wrote: On 15/06/2021 20:36, Stephen Morris wrote: Just as a side issue to this, when I was searching on the net for information on video resizing, I found an entry for a person raising an issue with video resizing in K

Re: Xorg Scaling Issues (Solved)

2021-06-15 Thread Stephen Morris
On 16/6/21 01:42, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Tue, 2021-06-15 at 21:42 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: On 15/06/2021 20:36, Stephen Morris wrote: Just as a side issue to this, when I was searching on the net for information on video resizing, I found an entry for a person raising an issue with video

Re: Xorg Scaling Issues (Solved)

2021-06-15 Thread Stephen Morris
On 15/6/21 23:42, Ed Greshko wrote: On 15/06/2021 20:36, Stephen Morris wrote: Just as a side issue to this, when I was searching on the net for information on video resizing, I found an entry for a person raising an issue with video resizing in KDE on Wayland in F34. One of the responses in t

Re: how to scale Gnome to user defined percentage

2021-06-15 Thread George N. White III
On Tue, 15 Jun 2021 at 18:46, Anil F Duggirala wrote: > hello, > > I am struggling more than enjoying the high-DPI display on my new laptop. > > Gnome allows me to scale my display, to 200, 300, 400 %. Is there an > easy way to scale to 250% for example? > > Does scaling like this in Gnome affect

how to scale Gnome to user defined percentage

2021-06-15 Thread Anil F Duggirala
hello, I am struggling more than enjoying the high-DPI display on my new laptop. Gnome allows me to scale my display, to 200, 300, 400 %. Is there an easy way to scale to 250% for example? Does scaling like this in Gnome affect peformance of displaying? thank you, ___

Re: My FC33->FC34 bind-chroot upgrade notes

2021-06-15 Thread Ed Greshko
On 16/06/2021 03:54, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: 3) the new version of bind-chroot enables "dns security validation" by default.    Make sure you do not have two `named.root.key` kicking around.  One in   /etc/named.root.key    and one in   /var/named/chroot/etc/named.root.key I th

Re: 'managed-keys' is deprecated ??

2021-06-15 Thread Tim via users
Tom Horsley wrote: >> Bind has 47,589,322 pages of documentation you can't search >> unless you already know all the proper jargon. The actual docs >> are the last place I ever want to look for anything :-). Todd Zullinger: > Heh. If you're not sure of the terminology, bind is the > last thing yo

Re: My FC33->FC34 bind-chroot upgrade notes

2021-06-15 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 6/14/21 10:00 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Hi All, Thank you all for the enormous help in me getting bind-chroot working after upgrading to Fedora 34.  Here are my notes. Hope this helps someone else. -T Well, if at first you don't succeed, revise! See changes to named.root.key Br

Re: Easiest way to move from BTRFS to EXT4 without losing data

2021-06-15 Thread Chris Murphy
On Tue, Jun 15, 2021 at 8:54 AM Sreyan Chakravarty wrote: > > > > On Tue, Jun 15, 2021 at 2:42 AM Sreyan Chakravarty wrote: >> >> >> >> On Tue, 15 Jun 2021, 1:27 am Garry T. Williams, wrote: >>> >>> On Monday, June 14, 2021 3:50:57 PM EDT Joe Zeff wrote: >>> > On 6/14/21 1:12 PM, Sreyan Chakrava

OT: diagnosing download problem

2021-06-15 Thread Geoffrey Leach
Configuration: Fedora 32 with Netgear Nighthawk R7000 router talking to Hughes satellite. Problem: Connecting (only) to Amazon, (any) page hangs attempting to download (apparently) an image from images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com. Download succeeds for a dozen or so jpegs, then it hangs. Problem app

Re: Xorg Scaling Issues (Solved)

2021-06-15 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2021-06-15 at 21:42 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 15/06/2021 20:36, Stephen Morris wrote: > > Just as a side issue to this, when I was searching on the net for > > information on video resizing, I found an entry for a person > > raising an issue with video resizing in KDE on Wayland in F34.

Re: 'managed-keys' is deprecated ??

2021-06-15 Thread Todd Zullinger
Tom Horsley wrote: > On Tue, 15 Jun 2021 00:16:01 -0400 > Todd Zullinger wrote: > >> Bind has some very thorough documentation. It's even >> easily searchable if you view it online. That's better than >> any general search engine. > > Bind has 47,589,322 pages of documentation you can't search

Re: test message

2021-06-15 Thread stan via users
On Mon, 14 Jun 2021 18:50:40 -0400 Frank McCormick wrote: > As far as switching to say Gmail that is something I am definitely > considering. I am using my providers main address > less and less to try to avoid these problems. I guess the way is to > set up a seperate inbox for fedora list mail.

Re: Easiest way to move from BTRFS to EXT4 without losing data

2021-06-15 Thread Sreyan Chakravarty
On Tue, Jun 15, 2021 at 2:42 AM Sreyan Chakravarty wrote: > > > On Tue, 15 Jun 2021, 1:27 am Garry T. Williams, > wrote: > >> On Monday, June 14, 2021 3:50:57 PM EDT Joe Zeff wrote: >> > On 6/14/21 1:12 PM, Sreyan Chakravarty wrote: >> > > I mean if I backup from BTRFS can I restore it into ext4

Re: 'managed-keys' is deprecated ??

2021-06-15 Thread Tom Horsley
On Tue, 15 Jun 2021 00:16:01 -0400 Todd Zullinger wrote: > Bind has some very thorough documentation. It's even > easily searchable if you view it online. That's better than > any general search engine. Bind has 47,589,322 pages of documentation you can't search unless you already know all the

Re: Xorg Scaling Issues (Solved)

2021-06-15 Thread Ed Greshko
On 15/06/2021 20:36, Stephen Morris wrote: Just as a side issue to this, when I was searching on the net for information on video resizing, I found an entry for a person raising an issue with video resizing in KDE on Wayland in F34. One of the responses in the issue said that KDE on Wayland was no

Re: Xorg Scaling Issues (Solved)

2021-06-15 Thread Stephen Morris
On 13/6/21 00:33, Ed Greshko wrote: On 12/06/2021 21:45, Stephen Morris wrote: The problem I have is Gnome scales when the windows size changes, but KDE does not, which is why I put the modelines in the conf file, and then KDE does scale. I think it is going to be "difficult" to track down th

Re: thunderbird 78

2021-06-15 Thread Stephen Morris
On 15/6/21 17:28, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 6/15/21 12:12 AM, François Patte wrote: I bupdate my fedora 32 yesterday and thunderbird 78 has been installed... So I can't get my mail!!! What is the magic to get mails with thunderbird 78? You need to provide more information.  I don't have any prob

Re: 'managed-keys' is deprecated ??

2021-06-15 Thread Ed Greshko
On 15/06/2021 15:41, Ed Greshko wrote: If I were you I may consider checking the upgrade logs. While not using the chroot service I just upgraded my internal bind system from  F33 to F34. I do have all of these installed on the upgraded system. I had another F33 VM which needed upgrading.  Be

Re: Live and PlayStation 4?

2021-06-15 Thread Tim via users
ToddAndMargo: >> Duck Duck Go. Google censors political speech not to >> its liking and it spies on you mercilessly. Joe Zeff: > This is why I use startpage.com. It keeps no record of your IP > address so that nobody can tie your searches to you. YMMV, but > that's my personal preference. I'm

Re: 'managed-keys' is deprecated ??

2021-06-15 Thread Ed Greshko
On 15/06/2021 12:42, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 6/14/21 9:16 PM, Todd Zullinger wrote: ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Placing     include "/etc/named.root.key"; in my bind.conf, give me the following error # named-checkconf -l -t /var/named/chroot /etc/named.conf /etc/named.root.key:1: o

Re: thunderbird 78

2021-06-15 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 6/15/21 12:12 AM, François Patte wrote: I bupdate my fedora 32 yesterday and thunderbird 78 has been installed... So I can't get my mail!!! What is the magic to get mails with thunderbird 78? You need to provide more information. I don't have any problem with it. However, you must not ha

thunderbird 78

2021-06-15 Thread François Patte
Bonjour, I bupdate my fedora 32 yesterday and thunderbird 78 has been installed... So I can't get my mail!!! What is the magic to get mails with thunderbird 78? Thank you. PS. I downgraded thunderbird and the downgraded version is 68: french langpack, enigmail do not work with TB 68 -- Franç