Re: Learning ipv6 quirks

2021-06-21 Thread Ed Greshko
On 22/06/2021 11:41, Gordon Messmer wrote: On 6/21/21 6:17 AM, Robert McBroom via users wrote: @RobertPC ~]# mount -v -t nfs [fd2e:cb3b:f005::ec1]:/mnt/HD/HD_a2/mcstuffy /mnt/mcstuffy mount.nfs: timeout set for Mon Jun 21 06:42:25 2021 mount.nfs: trying text-based options 'vers=4.2,addr=fd2e:c

Re: Learning ipv6 quirks

2021-06-21 Thread Ed Greshko
On 22/06/2021 11:41, Gordon Messmer wrote: On 6/21/21 6:17 AM, Robert McBroom via users wrote: @RobertPC ~]# mount -v -t nfs [fd2e:cb3b:f005::ec1]:/mnt/HD/HD_a2/mcstuffy /mnt/mcstuffy mount.nfs: timeout set for Mon Jun 21 06:42:25 2021 mount.nfs: trying text-based options 'vers=4.2,addr=fd2e:c

Re: Learning ipv6 quirks

2021-06-21 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 6/21/21 6:17 AM, Robert McBroom via users wrote: @RobertPC ~]# mount -v -t nfs [fd2e:cb3b:f005::ec1]:/mnt/HD/HD_a2/mcstuffy /mnt/mcstuffy mount.nfs: timeout set for Mon Jun 21 06:42:25 2021 mount.nfs: trying text-based options 'vers=4.2,addr=fd2e:cb3b:f005::ec1,clientaddr=fd2e:cb3b:f005::ec1

Re: No Swap Allocation in FSTAB

2021-06-21 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 2021-06-21 4:29 p.m., Stephen Morris wrote: On 20/6/21 02:22, Ed Greshko wrote: On 19/06/2021 21:44, Stephen Morris wrote: My system has been upgraded from versions without ZRAM.  That is the reason my system has a defined swap partition on disk. I don't see the connection between Video Me

Re: Long wait for start job

2021-06-21 Thread Ed Greshko
On 22/06/2021 05:41, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Mon, 2021-06-21 at 21:18 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: On 21/06/2021 20:31, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Mon, 2021-06-21 at 20:02 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: I thought I mentioned they should have been taken at the same time. journal starts at Jun

Re: Learning ipv6 quirks

2021-06-21 Thread Ed Greshko
On 22/06/2021 07:34, Tom Horsley wrote: On Tue, 22 Jun 2021 07:25:23 +0800 Ed Greshko wrote: Could you define a bit more what you mean by "name resolution"?  Or are you thinking about the Stateless IP assignment I mention in a different reply? I have no idea :-). Maybe what I read about had s

Re: Learning ipv6 quirks

2021-06-21 Thread Tom Horsley
On Tue, 22 Jun 2021 07:25:23 +0800 Ed Greshko wrote: > Could you define a bit more what you mean by "name resolution"?  Or are you > thinking about > the Stateless IP assignment I mention in a different reply? I have no idea :-). Maybe what I read about had something to do with mdns providing sy

Re: No Swap Allocation in FSTAB

2021-06-21 Thread Stephen Morris
On 20/6/21 02:22, Ed Greshko wrote: On 19/06/2021 21:44, Stephen Morris wrote: On 19/6/21 15:31, Ed Greshko wrote: On 19/06/2021 12:45, Stephen Morris wrote: Hi,     I've noticed when trying remediate performance issues in F34 under a vm, that fedora does not have a swap specification in fsta

Re: Learning ipv6 quirks

2021-06-21 Thread Ed Greshko
On 22/06/2021 00:48, Tom Horsley wrote: On Tue, 22 Jun 2021 00:37:56 +0800 Ed Greshko wrote: Oh, I forgot to mention that your IPv6 addresses appear to be Dynamically assigned IP addresses.  Meaning they are not "fixed" and may change.  Not the best for uses in a client/server environment. I

Re: Long wait for start job

2021-06-21 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2021-06-21 at 11:47 -0600, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 6/21/21 3:14 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > Yes, that's been established (strictly, I haven't bothered swapping > > the > > drives in the dock to see what happens, but it's immaterial). Again, > > the issue is not that one drive takes time

Re: Long wait for start job

2021-06-21 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2021-06-21 at 13:13 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: > On Mon, Jun 21, 2021 at 10:58 AM Chris Murphy > > wrote: > > > > Jun 19 12:47:12 fedora kernel: sd 6:0:0:1: tag#2 > > uas_eh_abort_handler > > 0 uas-tag 2 inflight: IN > > Jun 19 12:47:12 fedora kernel: sd 6:0:0:1: tag#2 CDB: Mode Sense(6)

Re: gsl

2021-06-21 Thread José Abílio Matos
On Saturday, June 19, 2021 2:38:02 PM WEST Patrick Dupre wrote: > Hello, > > There is a new version of gsl (2.7). > http://www.gnu.org/software/gsl/ > > What are the plans to have it available in fc34? Historically all the new releases of gsl where never released in stable distributions. I am

Re: Long wait for start job

2021-06-21 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2021-06-21 at 21:18 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 21/06/2021 20:31, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > On Mon, 2021-06-21 at 20:02 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > > > On 21/06/2021 19:48, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > > > To avoid ambiguity, maybe you should tell me the journal > > > > options > >

Re: packagekitd Hogging CPU

2021-06-21 Thread Chris Murphy
On Mon, Jun 21, 2021 at 7:18 AM Tim Evans wrote: > > $ uname -a > Linux harrier 5.12.11-300.fc34.x86_64 #1 SMP Wed Jun 16 15:47:58 UTC > 2021 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux > > As I sit here, my Lenovo T530 laptop is reporting packagekitd is taking > anywhere from 20 to 40 percent of CPU, per 'top

Re: No Swap Allocation in FSTAB

2021-06-21 Thread Chris Murphy
On Mon, Jun 21, 2021 at 1:25 PM Samuel Sieb wrote: > > On 2021-06-21 1:05 a.m., Bill Shirley wrote: > > The server is running on Raid-1 SSDs with 64GB of RAM > > > > Bill > > > > On 6/21/2021 3:41 AM, Samuel Sieb wrote: > >> On 6/20/21 7:25 PM, Bill Shirley wrote: > >>> One of the first things I d

Re: No Swap Allocation in FSTAB

2021-06-21 Thread Chris Murphy
On Mon, Jun 21, 2021 at 10:51 AM Barry Scott wrote: > > The SSDs are a lot slower than compressing a page into RAM. > > There was extensive discussion on the Fedora Devel list when this change was > proposed. > > Personally I was convinced that this change is an improvement for any system > that

Re: No Swap Allocation in FSTAB

2021-06-21 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 2021-06-21 1:05 a.m., Bill Shirley wrote: The server is running on Raid-1 SSDs with 64GB of RAM Bill On 6/21/2021 3:41 AM, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 6/20/21 7:25 PM, Bill Shirley wrote: One of the first things I did after installing F34 is disable swap-on-zram:    touch /etc/systemd/zram-gene

Re: Long wait for start job

2021-06-21 Thread Chris Murphy
On Mon, Jun 21, 2021 at 10:58 AM Chris Murphy wrote: > > Jun 19 12:47:12 fedora kernel: sd 6:0:0:1: tag#2 uas_eh_abort_handler > 0 uas-tag 2 inflight: IN > Jun 19 12:47:12 fedora kernel: sd 6:0:0:1: tag#2 CDB: Mode Sense(6) 1a > 00 08 00 18 00 Yeah and in the install-boot log it happens again:

Re: Learning ipv6 quirks

2021-06-21 Thread Ed Greshko
On 22/06/2021 02:36, Robert McBroom via users wrote: On 6/21/21 12:37 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 22/06/2021 00:35, Ed Greshko wrote: On 21/06/2021 22:47, Robert McBroom via users wrote: Web interface. It shows IPv6 IP Address fe80::200:1eb5:75df:b84:98d1 , 2600:1702:4860:9dd0:21d:60ff:fe35:b81

Re: Learning ipv6 quirks

2021-06-21 Thread Robert McBroom via users
On 6/21/21 12:37 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 22/06/2021 00:35, Ed Greshko wrote: On 21/06/2021 22:47, Robert McBroom via users wrote: Web interface. It shows IPv6 IP Address fe80::200:1eb5:75df:b84:98d1 , 2600:1702:4860:9dd0:21d:60ff:fe35:b813/64 exports configuration is "*" Then the IPv6 a

Re: Long wait for start job

2021-06-21 Thread Joe Zeff
On 6/21/21 3:14 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: Yes, that's been established (strictly, I haven't bothered swapping the drives in the dock to see what happens, but it's immaterial). Again, the issue is not that one drive takes time to spin up, but that the system start-up waits for it when it does

Re: Learning ipv6 quirks

2021-06-21 Thread Ian Pilcher
On 6/21/21 8:17 AM, Robert McBroom via users wrote: Trying to connect to NAS with nfs using the ipv6 addressing. @RobertPC ~]#ping fd2e:cb3b:f005::ec1 PING fd2e:cb3b:f005::ec1(fd2e:cb3b:f005::ec1) 56 data bytes 64 bytes from fd2e:cb3b:f005::ec1: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=0.120 ms 64 bytes from fd2e

Re: Learning ipv6 quirks

2021-06-21 Thread Barry Scott
> On 21 Jun 2021, at 17:48, Tom Horsley wrote: > > On Tue, 22 Jun 2021 00:37:56 +0800 > Ed Greshko wrote: > >> Oh, I forgot to mention that your IPv6 addresses appear to be Dynamically >> assigned IP >> addresses. Meaning they are not "fixed" and may change. Not the best for >> uses in a >

Re: Long wait for start job

2021-06-21 Thread Chris Murphy
On Mon, Jun 21, 2021 at 3:20 AM Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > The logs are now publicly visible at: > https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1nGwVkeTJh5hz4dYRBD7Ikpx6q4MaPki9?usp=sharing From the live boot (the least complicated one to look at for starters), there is an anomaly: Jun 19 08:46:41

Re: packagekitd Hogging CPU

2021-06-21 Thread Barry Scott
> On 21 Jun 2021, at 14:18, Tim Evans wrote: > > $ uname -a > Linux harrier 5.12.11-300.fc34.x86_64 #1 SMP Wed Jun 16 15:47:58 UTC 2021 > x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux > > As I sit here, my Lenovo T530 laptop is reporting packagekitd is taking > anywhere from 20 to 40 percent of CPU, per 't

Re: No Swap Allocation in FSTAB

2021-06-21 Thread Barry Scott
The SSDs are a lot slower than compressing a page into RAM. There was extensive discussion on the Fedora Devel list when this change was proposed. Personally I was convinced that this change is an improvement for any system that is under memory pressure. I'm not going to try to recall the discu

Re: Learning ipv6 quirks

2021-06-21 Thread Tom Horsley
On Tue, 22 Jun 2021 00:37:56 +0800 Ed Greshko wrote: > Oh, I forgot to mention that your IPv6 addresses appear to be Dynamically > assigned IP > addresses.  Meaning they are not "fixed" and may change.  Not the best for > uses in a > client/server environment. Isn't there some sort of automagic

Re: Learning ipv6 quirks

2021-06-21 Thread Ed Greshko
On 22/06/2021 00:35, Ed Greshko wrote: On 21/06/2021 22:47, Robert McBroom via users wrote: Web interface. It shows IPv6 IP Address fe80::200:1eb5:75df:b84:98d1 , 2600:1702:4860:9dd0:21d:60ff:fe35:b813/64 exports configuration is "*" Then the IPv6 address you want to use is 2600:1702:4860:9

Re: Learning ipv6 quirks

2021-06-21 Thread Ed Greshko
On 21/06/2021 22:47, Robert McBroom via users wrote: Web interface. It shows IPv6 IP Address fe80::200:1eb5:75df:b84:98d1 , 2600:1702:4860:9dd0:21d:60ff:fe35:b813/64 exports configuration is "*" Then the IPv6 address you want to use is 2600:1702:4860:9dd0:21d:60ff:fe35:b813 -- Remind me to

Re: Learning ipv6 quirks

2021-06-21 Thread Robert McBroom via users
On 6/21/21 10:16 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 21/06/2021 22:06, Robert McBroom via users wrote: On 6/21/21 9:49 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 21/06/2021 21:17, Robert McBroom via users wrote: Trying to connect to NAS with nfs using the ipv6 addressing. @RobertPC ~]#ping fd2e:cb3b:f005::ec1 PING fd2e:c

Re: Learning ipv6 quirks

2021-06-21 Thread Ed Greshko
On 21/06/2021 22:06, Robert McBroom via users wrote: On 6/21/21 9:49 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 21/06/2021 21:17, Robert McBroom via users wrote: Trying to connect to NAS with nfs using the ipv6 addressing. @RobertPC ~]#ping fd2e:cb3b:f005::ec1 PING fd2e:cb3b:f005::ec1(fd2e:cb3b:f005::ec1) 56 da

Re: Learning ipv6 quirks

2021-06-21 Thread Robert McBroom via users
On 6/21/21 9:49 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 21/06/2021 21:17, Robert McBroom via users wrote: Trying to connect to NAS with nfs using the ipv6 addressing. @RobertPC ~]#ping fd2e:cb3b:f005::ec1 PING fd2e:cb3b:f005::ec1(fd2e:cb3b:f005::ec1) 56 data bytes 64 bytes from fd2e:cb3b:f005::ec1: icmp_seq=1

Re: Learning ipv6 quirks

2021-06-21 Thread Ed Greshko
On 21/06/2021 21:17, Robert McBroom via users wrote: What is needed to get the ipv6 connection? Oh, and of course, you'll need the appropriate entry in the server's exports file. -- Remind me to ignore comments which aren't germane to the thread. _

Re: Learning ipv6 quirks

2021-06-21 Thread Ed Greshko
On 21/06/2021 21:17, Robert McBroom via users wrote: Trying to connect to NAS with nfs using the ipv6 addressing. @RobertPC ~]#ping fd2e:cb3b:f005::ec1 PING fd2e:cb3b:f005::ec1(fd2e:cb3b:f005::ec1) 56 data bytes 64 bytes from fd2e:cb3b:f005::ec1: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=0.120 ms 64 bytes from fd2

Re: Long wait for start job

2021-06-21 Thread Ed Greshko
On 21/06/2021 20:31, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Mon, 2021-06-21 at 20:02 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: On 21/06/2021 19:48, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: To avoid ambiguity, maybe you should tell me the journal options you´d like (the timestamps in the uploaded logs don´t show wallclock time). The

packagekitd Hogging CPU

2021-06-21 Thread Tim Evans
$ uname -a Linux harrier 5.12.11-300.fc34.x86_64 #1 SMP Wed Jun 16 15:47:58 UTC 2021 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux As I sit here, my Lenovo T530 laptop is reporting packagekitd is taking anywhere from 20 to 40 percent of CPU, per 'top.' There is continuous disk activity. Nothing going on wi

Learning ipv6 quirks

2021-06-21 Thread Robert McBroom via users
Trying to connect to NAS with nfs using the ipv6 addressing. @RobertPC ~]#ping fd2e:cb3b:f005::ec1 PING fd2e:cb3b:f005::ec1(fd2e:cb3b:f005::ec1) 56 data bytes 64 bytes from fd2e:cb3b:f005::ec1: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=0.120 ms 64 bytes from fd2e:cb3b:f005::ec1: icmp_seq=2 ttl=64 time=0.100 ms 64

Re: Long wait for start job

2021-06-21 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2021-06-21 at 20:02 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 21/06/2021 19:48, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > To avoid ambiguity, maybe you should tell me the journal options > > you´d > > like (the timestamps in the uploaded logs don´t show wallclock > > time). > > The journal times of what you've s

Re: Long wait for start job

2021-06-21 Thread Ed Greshko
On 21/06/2021 18:17, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: I thought the contents of dmesg were already in the journal, but I may have misunderstood their relationship. I asked for dmesg since there is a gap in dmesg but not a corresponding gap in the journal. [   30.093669] logitech-hidpp-device 0003:0

Re: Long wait for start job

2021-06-21 Thread Ed Greshko
On 21/06/2021 19:48, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: To avoid ambiguity, maybe you should tell me the journal options you´d like (the timestamps in the uploaded logs don´t show wallclock time). The journal times of what you've supplied seem fine.  They show Jun 20 15:44:50 for example and dmesg -T

Re: Long wait for start job

2021-06-21 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2021-06-21 at 18:57 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 21/06/2021 18:27, Ed Greshko wrote: > > On 21/06/2021 18:17, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > > On Mon, 2021-06-21 at 17:43 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > > > > On 21/06/2021 17:20, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > > > > The logs are now publicly vi

Re: Long wait for start job

2021-06-21 Thread Ed Greshko
On 21/06/2021 18:27, Ed Greshko wrote: On 21/06/2021 18:17, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Mon, 2021-06-21 at 17:43 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: On 21/06/2021 17:20, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: The logs are now publicly visible at: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1nGwVkeTJh5hz4dYRBD7Ikpx6q4Ma

Re: Long wait for start job

2021-06-21 Thread Ed Greshko
On 21/06/2021 18:17, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Mon, 2021-06-21 at 17:43 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: On 21/06/2021 17:20, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: The logs are now publicly visible at: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1nGwVkeTJh5hz4dYRBD7Ikpx6q4MaPki9?usp=sharing I've included my home-

Re: Long wait for start job

2021-06-21 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2021-06-21 at 17:43 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 21/06/2021 17:20, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > The logs are now publicly visible at: > > https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1nGwVkeTJh5hz4dYRBD7Ikpx6q4MaPki9?usp=sharing > > > > I've included my home-grown 'dock' scripts for completen

Re: No Swap Allocation in FSTAB

2021-06-21 Thread Bill Shirley
[0 07:20:34 root@yoda33 ~]$ swapon NAME  TYPE SIZE USED PRIO /dev/sdc1 partition  64G 9.7M  300 /dev/sdd1 partition  64G 9.4M  300 [0 03:06:33 root@yoda33 ~]$ uptime  03:08:30 up 23 days, 18:33,  2 users,  load average: 0.01, 0.01, 0.00 On 6/21/2021 4:18 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 21/06/2021 1

Re: Long wait for start job

2021-06-21 Thread Ed Greshko
On 21/06/2021 17:20, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: The logs are now publicly visible at: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1nGwVkeTJh5hz4dYRBD7Ikpx6q4MaPki9?usp=sharing I've included my home-grown 'dock' scripts for completeness, plus logs of a Fedora Live boot (with no delay) and my current i

Re: Long wait for start job

2021-06-21 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2021-06-21 at 06:19 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 21/06/2021 06:02, Ed Greshko wrote: > > On 21/06/2021 05:48, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > > $ systemd-analyze blame |grep dracut-initqueue.service > > >    486ms dracut-initqueue.service > > > > > > If I power on the dock on after startup

Re: Long wait for start job

2021-06-21 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2021-06-20 at 18:00 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: > On Sun, Jun 20, 2021 at 3:48 PM Patrick O'Callaghan > wrote: > > > > If I power on the dock on after startup is complete, one drive > > appears > > immediately and the other takes 30 seconds or so, so the delay is not > > being caused by th

Re: Long wait for start job

2021-06-21 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2021-06-20 at 17:40 -0600, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 6/20/21 3:48 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > If I power on the dock on after startup is complete, one drive > > appears > > immediately and the other takes 30 seconds or so, so the delay is > > not > > being caused by the boot process itsel

Re: Long wait for start job

2021-06-21 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2021-06-21 at 06:59 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 21/06/2021 06:02, Ed Greshko wrote: > > On 21/06/2021 05:48, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > > $ systemd-analyze blame |grep dracut-initqueue.service > > >    486ms dracut-initqueue.service > > > > > > If I power on the dock on after startup

Re: No Swap Allocation in FSTAB

2021-06-21 Thread Ed Greshko
On 21/06/2021 16:05, Bill Shirley wrote: The server is running on Raid-1 SSDs with 64GB of RAM I suppose the follow-up question would be are you seeing the swap partition actually being used? Does "swapon" show it has been used? -- Remind me to ignore comments which aren't germane to the th

Re: No Swap Allocation in FSTAB

2021-06-21 Thread Bill Shirley
The server is running on Raid-1 SSDs with 64GB of RAM Bill On 6/21/2021 3:41 AM, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 6/20/21 7:25 PM, Bill Shirley wrote: One of the first things I did after installing F34 is disable swap-on-zram:    touch /etc/systemd/zram-generator.conf and define a swap partition in fstab

Re: No Swap Allocation in FSTAB

2021-06-21 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 6/20/21 7:25 PM, Bill Shirley wrote: One of the first things I did after installing F34 is disable swap-on-zram:   touch /etc/systemd/zram-generator.conf and define a swap partition in fstab. Why? ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraprojec