Re: WAS : Kinda OT: Email clients.... ( Now Forwarders)

2022-02-14 Thread Tim via users
On Mon, 2022-02-14 at 08:23 -0600, c. marlow wrote: > I am wanting to know, would gmail start considering all mail from my > domain as spam if it occasionally puts a piece of mail in the spam > folder? Or is DirectAdmin keeping the headers like they are and just > redirecting the email to me? Few

Re: Kinda OT: Email clients and Email Management

2022-02-14 Thread Tim via users
Tim: >> Manual, what manual? Ha! I just pressed F1 for help, it opened my >> web browser to: https://help.gnome.org/users/evolution/3.28 >> Giving me: >> >> Not Found >> The requested URL /users/evolution/3.28 was not found on this >> server. Patrick O'Callaghan: > Recall that Evolution is

Re: Hotkeys to switch consoles disabled

2022-02-14 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 2/11/22 16:51, Ed Greshko wrote: On 12/02/2022 07:22, Lists wrote: On Fedora 35, running KDE desktop, I noticed that I cannot switch to another console with Ctl+Alt+F[1-9] as I have on other desktops. I presume this has something to do with the switch to Wayland? Is there a way to restore

Re: Kernel crash every day at 6:30am

2022-02-14 Thread Alex
Hi, > >> Here's a bit of the kernel message from dmesg > >> [ cut here ] > >> WARNING: CPU: 4 PID: 633983 at kernel/exit.c:739 do_exit+0x37/0xa90 > >> general protection fault, probably for non-canonical address > >> 0xcc2a8cfcb62a56a1: [#1] SMP PTI > >> CPU: 4 PID:

Re: Bad workloads for RAID0?

2022-02-14 Thread Chris Murphy
On Sat, Feb 12, 2022 at 8:32 AM Jamie Fargen wrote: > > Not familiar with DejaDup, but with this setup on RAID0 do an rsync every 15 > minutes to the backup system. rsync has some advantages: destination does not need to be btrfs, the --inplace option for VM images But for such very frequent

Re: exfat vs fuseblk

2022-02-14 Thread George N. White III
On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 at 19:16, Paolo Galtieri wrote: > I have several external disk drives from the same vendor. According to > the vendor recent drives are formatted exfat while prior ones where > formatted ntfs. According to what I find on the web file system type > fuseblk should work for

Re: exfat vs fuseblk

2022-02-14 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 2/14/22 15:15, Paolo Galtieri wrote: I have several external disk drives from the same vendor.  According to the vendor recent drives are formatted exfat while prior ones where formatted ntfs.  According to what I find on the web file system type fuseblk should work for both exfat and nfts.

Re: Fedora friendly blue tooth transceiver?

2022-02-14 Thread George N. White III
On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 at 15:50, Samuel Sieb wrote: > On 2/10/22 04:24, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > > Anyone have a favorite Fedora friendly blue tooth > > transceiver? > > I don't have a favorite, but I also haven't found any that don't work. > The most recent one I got was a couple of years

Re: Non-https site for opening up proxy

2022-02-14 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 2/14/22 19:17, Richard wrote: Date: Monday, February 14, 2022 17:25:36 -0500 From: Robert Moskowitz Now FF insists on changing the url to https and I can't open the firewall proxy.  I have to fiddle around until I can send the plan http url This is not the default FF setting. The

Re: Non-https site for opening up proxy

2022-02-14 Thread Richard
> Date: Monday, February 14, 2022 17:25:36 -0500 > From: Robert Moskowitz > > Now FF insists on changing the url to https and I can't open the > firewall proxy.  I have to fiddle around until I can send the plan > http url This is not the default FF setting. The fedora FF release (currently

exfat vs fuseblk

2022-02-14 Thread Paolo Galtieri
I have several external disk drives from the same vendor.  According to the vendor recent drives are formatted exfat while prior ones where formatted ntfs.  According to what I find on the web file system type fuseblk should work for both exfat and nfts. I have a new 12TB drive and when I plug

Re: Fedora friendly blue tooth transceiver?

2022-02-14 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 2/14/22 14:34, Ed Greshko wrote: On 15/02/2022 03:50, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 2/10/22 04:24, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Anyone have a favorite Fedora friendly blue tooth transceiver? I don't have a favorite, but I also haven't found any that don't work. The most recent one I got was a

Solved - Re: Non-https site for opening up proxy

2022-02-14 Thread Robert Moskowitz
http://neverssl.com :) On 2/14/22 17:25, Robert Moskowitz wrote: My firewall proxy requires an initial http connection to set up a session.  After that, https works. In past Firefox, I could put in a http url, even though the site requires https.  Firefox would leave it alone and the proxy

Re: Fedora friendly blue tooth transceiver?

2022-02-14 Thread Ed Greshko
On 15/02/2022 03:50, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 2/10/22 04:24, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Anyone have a favorite Fedora friendly blue tooth transceiver? I don't have a favorite, but I also haven't found any that don't work. The most recent one I got was a couple of years ago for accessing BLE

Non-https site for opening up proxy

2022-02-14 Thread Robert Moskowitz
My firewall proxy requires an initial http connection to set up a session.  After that, https works. In past Firefox, I could put in a http url, even though the site requires https.  Firefox would leave it alone and the proxy intercepts, presents the login dialog and everything is fine. Now

Re: Kinda OT: Email clients and Email Management

2022-02-14 Thread Slade Watkins
On Fri, Feb 11, 2022, at 1:15 PM, fed...@cwm030.com wrote: > And It's getting harder and harder for me to hop around and try new > email clients out when they come out being a..GET READY TO > CRINGE. POP3 user. AHH CRINGE... haha. > > I thought about making the change to IMAP, but

Re: Kinda OT: Email clients and Email Management

2022-02-14 Thread c. marlow
On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 13:21:37 -0600 Ranjan Maitra wrote: > I had similar issues with IMAP (for 2-3 hours) when I tried to move > to IMAP on a whim, and then, discretion being the better part of > valor, moved right back to POP3. > > I am pretty certain that I was not using IMAP correctly, but

Re: Kinda OT: Email clients and Email Management

2022-02-14 Thread c. marlow
On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 20:32:58 +0100 wwp wrote: > If you find CM slow here, don't try TB! ;-) > > > [snip] It's not Claws thats slow, its IMAP. > TB has support for the MH file format. This has to be tuned when you > create the account. Search the web! And is still currently considered

Re: Fedora friendly blue tooth transceiver?

2022-02-14 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 2/10/22 04:24, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Anyone have a favorite Fedora friendly blue tooth transceiver? I don't have a favorite, but I also haven't found any that don't work. The most recent one I got was a couple of years ago for accessing BLE devices. I kind of randomly picked one

Re: Kinda OT: Email clients and Email Management

2022-02-14 Thread wwp
Hi Chris, On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 10:01:31 -0600 "c. marlow" wrote: > On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 10:43:07 -0500 > Robert Moskowitz wrote: > > > > IMAP is just more functional than POP ever was with better security > > features; though Peter Resnick of Qualcomm would regal us with > > stories of

Re: Kinda OT: Email clients and Email Management

2022-02-14 Thread Ranjan Maitra
On Mon Feb14'22 01:10:27PM, c. marlow wrote: > From: "c. marlow" > Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2022 13:10:27 -0600 > To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org > Reply-To: Community support for Fedora users > Subject: Re: Kinda OT: Email clients and Email Management > > Well.. I am reaping what I sew... > > I am

Re: Kinda OT: Email clients and Email Management

2022-02-14 Thread c. marlow
Well.. I am reaping what I sew... I am starting to regret the change to IMAP. I just told Claws to move two emails from my cell phone company to another folder / label whatever you want to call it.. And the emails are not in that folder. I even went online to gmail.com and did a search for 2

Re: Kinda OT: Email clients and Email Management

2022-02-14 Thread c. marlow
On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 17:32:30 + Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Mon, 2022-02-14 at 10:01 -0600, c. marlow wrote: > > I noticed that IMAP is SLOWW because > > Claws > > checks every folder for new mail, when my email is only filtered > > when I launch Claws. > >

Re: Kinda OT: Email clients and Email Management

2022-02-14 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 2/14/22 11:59, c. marlow wrote: On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 11:48:47 -0500 Robert Moskowitz wrote: I only check my inbox for new mail.  I don't use any sieves or other tools to move incoming mail to specific folders, and I leave that to Thunderbird.  Actually I have no special folders on the

Re: Kinda OT: Email clients and Email Management

2022-02-14 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2022-02-14 at 10:01 -0600, c. marlow wrote: > I noticed that IMAP is SLOWW because > Claws > checks every folder for new mail, when my email is only filtered when > I launch Claws. Checking every folder not a property of IMAP but of how you choose to access

Re: Kinda OT: Email clients and Email Management

2022-02-14 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2022-02-14 at 08:02 -0600, c. marlow wrote: > On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 15:00:20 +1100 > Cameron Simpson wrote: >   > > For those liking IMAP, there are definitely tools to keep your IMAP > > in sync with a local set of folders, allowing local email and also > > IMAP access. > > > > I am a

Re: Kinda OT: Email clients and Email Management

2022-02-14 Thread c. marlow
On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 11:48:47 -0500 Robert Moskowitz wrote: > I only check my inbox for new mail.  I don't use any sieves or other > tools to move incoming mail to specific folders, and I leave that to > Thunderbird.  Actually I have no special folders on the server.  All > filtered mail is

Re: Kinda OT: Email clients and Email Management

2022-02-14 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 2/14/22 11:01, c. marlow wrote: On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 10:43:07 -0500 Robert Moskowitz wrote: IMAP is just more functional than POP ever was with better security features; though Peter Resnick of Qualcomm would regal us with stories of maintaining Eudora for their CEO for years after

Re: Kinda OT: Email clients and Email Management

2022-02-14 Thread c. marlow
On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 10:43:07 -0500 Robert Moskowitz wrote: > IMAP is just more functional than POP ever was with better security > features; though Peter Resnick of Qualcomm would regal us with > stories of maintaining Eudora for their CEO for years after there > were other better choices,

Re: Kinda OT: Email clients and Email Management

2022-02-14 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 2/11/22 13:15, fed...@cwm030.com wrote: Hi Ya'll, > > I know that there are, to me, seems like A LOT of email clients for > the linux world. > > And It's getting harder and harder for me to hop around and try new > email clients out when they come out being a..GET READY TO >

Re: RE : Does it is better to '''python3 -m install the_program''' instead '''pip3 install the_program" when it is missing in the downloader primary ?

2022-02-14 Thread Dorian ROSSE
This is interesting but I prefer python 3 like this : python3 -m pip install --user Your insights is good, Thanks you, Regards. Dorian Rosse. From: Aristeidis Dimitriadis Sent: Monday, February 14, 2022 3:47:40 PM To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org Subject:

Re: RE : Does it is better to '''python3 -m install the_program''' instead '''pip3 install the_program" when it is missing in the downloader primary ?

2022-02-14 Thread Aristeidis Dimitriadis
On 12/02/2022 00:19, Dorian ROSSE wrote: This is interesting but i am in using of python for the way of dependency finaly i need to install dependency i don’t need in virtual, Regards. Dorian ROSSE. Not sure what it is your are trying to do. If you want to run a program NOT provided as an

WAS : Kinda OT: Email clients.... ( Now Forwarders)

2022-02-14 Thread c. marlow
I am also wondering about this: I have a web hosting package that offers email the works: Website, FTP, Email, etc I have my email set up to Forward via the Direct Admin panel to a Gmail address. You open the Direct Admin panel Then you click the " Fowarders" icon and I hit CREATE FORWARDER

Re: Kinda OT: Email clients and Email Management

2022-02-14 Thread c. marlow
On Sun, 13 Feb 2022 15:40:16 -0500 John Mellor wrote: > That's actually a good reason to use IMAP instead, as the normal > behaviour is to download the headers and not the bodies.  You only > download the bodies on mails that you read, so unless you don't get > any spam or if you actually

Re: Kinda OT: Email clients and Email Management

2022-02-14 Thread c. marlow
On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 15:00:20 +1100 Cameron Simpson wrote: > For those liking IMAP, there are definitely tools to keep your IMAP > in sync with a local set of folders, allowing local email and also > IMAP access. > I am a Linux N00B. I would love to know how to keep a copy of emails locally.

Re: Kinda OT: Email clients and Email Management

2022-02-14 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2022-02-14 at 13:03 +0100, wwp wrote: > > That's actually a good reason to use IMAP instead, as the normal > > behaviour is to download the headers and not the bodies. You only > > download the bodies on mails that you read, so unless you don't get > > any spam or if you actually read

Re: Kinda OT: Email clients and Email Management

2022-02-14 Thread wwp
Hello John, On Sun, 13 Feb 2022 15:40:16 -0500 John Mellor wrote: > On 2022-02-13 2:09 p.m., c. marlow wrote: > > On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 22:54:16 +0100 > > wwp wrote: > > > >> Moreover, using IMAP will make > >> you dependent of remote resource and you must be online, the use of > >> IMAP

Re: Kinda OT: Email clients and Email Management

2022-02-14 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2022-02-14 at 08:34 +1100, Cameron Simpson wrote: > POP3's not great for that - there's only one serverside mail folder, > not > much state (I think you can mark things as read maybe - or maybe that > too is client side). _If_ you're keeping your email server side, IMAP > is > a better

Re: Kinda OT: Email clients and Email Management

2022-02-14 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2022-02-13 at 22:03 -0500, John Mellor wrote: > I moved from fetchmail to Evolution, and initially thought it was > brilliant.  The only initial issues that I faced were in trying to > configure undocumented connectivity to Rogers (altered Yahoo) and > Google > upstream mail services. 

Re: Kinda OT: Email clients and Email Management

2022-02-14 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2022-02-14 at 11:33 +1030, Tim via users wrote: > Manual, what manual?  Ha!  I just pressed F1 for help, it opened my > web > browser to:  https://help.gnome.org/users/evolution/3.28 > Giving me: > >   Not Found >   The requested URL /users/evolution/3.28 was not found on this > server.

Re: Kinda OT: Email clients and Email Management

2022-02-14 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2022-02-13 at 12:58 -0600, c. marlow wrote: > > > Thus far, Evolution is the least-worst one I've found on Linux.<< > > You must of never had to use the Evolution mail group before.. > They're > quite rude over there. Basically, they give you the nice " GO RTFM" > for > replies, even

Re: Kinda OT: Email clients and Email Management

2022-02-14 Thread Tim via users
On Sun, 2022-02-13 at 22:03 -0500, John Mellor wrote: > I used fetchmail for a lot of years. Then one of my upstream email > servers switched to a modified and mostly-undocumented Yahoo > connection mechanism, and I could not find the correct connection > strings and ports to make it work, and