Re: F38/Xfce - background DNF checks still going

2023-05-10 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 5/10/23 17:00, Kevin Fenzi wrote: On Wed, May 10, 2023 at 04:41:29PM -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote: I thought I disabled dnfdragona from doing its 3? hour check for anything new.  But whenever I do a "dnf update" I see it starting with a message like: Last metadata expiration check:

Re: Emacs error in F38

2023-05-10 Thread George N. White III
On Wed, May 10, 2023 at 5:52 PM Mark C. Allman via users < users@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote: > On 5/10/23 16:43, Ranjan Maitra wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Ever since upgrading to F38, I have been getting emacs crashes > (Segmentation faults) quite frequently, but not always. Specifically, I get >

Re: Keeping ssh sessions alive

2023-05-10 Thread Doug H.
On Wed, May 10, 2023, at 2:38 PM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > I switched wifi routers. The new model, a Linksys WRT3200ACM kills my idle > SSH sessions. I found my old "hold" script, maybe it would work: #!/bin/sh # # For holding open a connection that the sonic wall wants to time # out. if [ $#

Re: Keeping ssh sessions alive

2023-05-10 Thread Tom Horsley
On Wed, 10 May 2023 17:38:43 -0400 Sam Varshavchik wrote: > Anyone have any tips for defeating this rudeness, short of a brute force > approach. I don't know if this counts as brute force, but you could run an ssh-keyscan command on cron. That sends real data back and forth to server without

Keeping ssh sessions alive

2023-05-10 Thread Sam Varshavchik
I switched wifi routers. The new model, a Linksys WRT3200ACM kills my idle SSH sessions. I have /etc/ssh/sshd_config.d/01-local.conf that has a "ClientAliveInterval" setting. With my previous router setting ClientAliveInterval to 60 seconds was enough to keep it from killing my idle SSH

Re: Chrome showing no text

2023-05-10 Thread Neal Becker
On Fri, May 5, 2023 at 5:40 PM Neal Becker wrote: > > On Fri, May 5, 2023 at 2:17 PM Jeffrey Walton wrote: > >> On Fri, May 5, 2023 at 1:13 PM steven stern wrote: >> > >> > Something in one of the updates I installed today (but not Chrome) has >> > broken chrome. It's now showing any text.

Re: Firefox - detection of exiting tabs with URLs

2023-05-10 Thread Tim via users
Tim: >> In the past I'd noticed a behaviour that if I opened a blank tab >> and typed in something like facebook, let auto-complete do its thing >> and picked something from the drop-down list that appeared below the >> address bar from its history, I'd often see the browser whiz over to >> an

Re: DMARC and SPF and DKIM, oh, my!

2023-05-10 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, 2023-05-11 at 05:07 +0930, Tim via users wrote: > Tim: > > > The list server should, of course, be taking anti-spam efforts of > > > its own (only allowed authorised members to post through it). > > > Patrick O'Callaghan: > > Just on that point, policies vary: > > > > 1) Block

Re: F38/Xfce - background DNF checks still going

2023-05-10 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Wed, May 10, 2023 at 04:41:29PM -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > I thought I disabled dnfdragona from doing its 3? hour check for anything > new.  But whenever I do a "dnf update" I see it starting with a message > like: > > Last metadata expiration check: 1:46:14 ago on Wed 10 May 2023

Re: Emacs error in F38

2023-05-10 Thread Mark C. Allman via users
On 5/10/23 16:43, Ranjan Maitra wrote: Hi, Ever since upgrading to F38, I have been getting emacs crashes (Segmentation faults) quite frequently, but not always. Specifically, I get the following message on the screen when emacs crashes. Any ideas as to what the remedy is? The version I have

Re: F38/Xfce - background DNF checks still going

2023-05-10 Thread Joe Zeff
On 05/10/2023 02:41 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: I thought I disabled dnfdragona from doing its 3? hour check for anything new.  But whenever I do a "dnf update" I see it starting with a message like: Last metadata expiration check: 1:46:14 ago on Wed 10 May 2023 02:52:06 PM EDT. How do I

Emacs error in F38

2023-05-10 Thread Ranjan Maitra
Hi, Ever since upgrading to F38, I have been getting emacs crashes (Segmentation faults) quite frequently, but not always. Specifically, I get the following message on the screen when emacs crashes. Any ideas as to what the remedy is? The version I have is: emacs-1:28.2-4.fc38.x86_64 Many

F38/Xfce - background DNF checks still going

2023-05-10 Thread Robert Moskowitz
I thought I disabled dnfdragona from doing its 3? hour check for anything new.  But whenever I do a "dnf update" I see it starting with a message like: Last metadata expiration check: 1:46:14 ago on Wed 10 May 2023 02:52:06 PM EDT. How do I stop this? thanks

Re: Firefox - detection of exiting tabs with URLs

2023-05-10 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 5/10/23 12:47, Tim via users wrote: On Wed, 2023-05-10 at 13:04 +0200, lejeczek via users wrote: With f38 I think my Firefox is unable to detect or is ignoring tabs which are already opened in other windows with certain URL, when I open a new tab and want to go to a website/URL.  I think

Re: Messages held for moderation.

2023-05-10 Thread Joe Zeff
On 05/10/2023 01:51 PM, Tim via users wrote: "Message rejected. Trim out the content that doesn't*need* to be quoted in your reply and try again. See following link for further explanation..." Adding "including all boilerplate" might not be a bad idea, as well as telling us who actually

Re: Messages held for moderation.

2023-05-10 Thread Tim via users
On Wed, 2023-05-10 at 09:58 -0500, Michael Hennebry wrote: > Is there a way to moderate mail for boilerplate quoting? I kinda like the idea. But think it ought to be auto-reject, rather than inundate the moderator. "Message rejected. Trim out the content that doesn't *need* to be quoted in

Re: Firefox - detection of exiting tabs with URLs

2023-05-10 Thread Tim via users
On Wed, 2023-05-10 at 13:04 +0200, lejeczek via users wrote: > With f38 I think my Firefox is unable to detect or is ignoring tabs > which are already opened in other windows with certain URL, when I > open a new tab and want to go to a website/URL. >  I think Firefox would then say, would offer

Re: DMARC and SPF and DKIM, oh, my!

2023-05-10 Thread Tim via users
Tim: >> The list server should, of course, be taking anti-spam efforts of >> its own (only allowed authorised members to post through it). Patrick O'Callaghan: > Just on that point, policies vary: > > 1) Block unsubscribed users > 2) Allow unsubscribed users > 3) Hold unsubscribed users for

Re: whence USB 2?

2023-05-10 Thread Tim via users
On Wed, 2023-05-10 at 09:55 -0500, Michael Hennebry wrote: > BTW whatever happened to the B connectors? I always found them the most unreliable of the lot. And that surprised me, I thought the miniature ones would be the worst. I found them to be a very sloppy fit, and relying on the sprung

Re: Messages held for moderation.

2023-05-10 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Tue, May 09, 2023 at 04:06:36PM -0400, Todd Zullinger wrote: > > I submitted: > > https://pagure.io/fedora-infra/ansible/pull-request/1431 > > If you know of folks who should be tagged on that for review > Kevin, please feel free to add them. > > Hopefully this can be one less item on your

Re: Firefox - detection of exiting tabs with URLs

2023-05-10 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 5/10/23 11:28, lejeczek via users wrote: On 10/05/2023 17:41, stan via users wrote: On Wed, 10 May 2023 13:04:53 +0200 lejeczek via users wrote: Hi guys. With f38 I think my Firefox is unable to detect or is ignoring tabs which are already opened in other windows with certain URL, when I

Re: Firefox - detection of exiting tabs with URLs

2023-05-10 Thread lejeczek via users
On 10/05/2023 17:41, stan via users wrote: On Wed, 10 May 2023 13:04:53 +0200 lejeczek via users wrote: Hi guys. With f38 I think my Firefox is unable to detect or is ignoring tabs which are already opened in other windows with certain URL, when I open a new tab and want to go to a

Re: DMARC and SPF and DKIM, oh, my!

2023-05-10 Thread Mike Wright
On 5/10/23 07:06, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Wed, 2023-05-10 at 17:22 +0930, Tim via users wrote: The list server should, of course, be taking anti-spam efforts of its own (only allowed authorised members to post through it). Just on that point, policies vary: 1) Block unsubscribed users

Re: Messages held for moderation.

2023-05-10 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Wed, May 10, 2023 at 12:52 PM Todd Zullinger wrote: > > Michael Hennebry wrote: > > On Tue, 9 May 2023, Joe Zeff wrote: > >> On 05/09/2023 04:48 PM, Todd Zullinger wrote: > >>> (trim the quoted text down to the most recent/relevant > >>> messages only). > >> > >> This should always be

Re: Messages held for moderation.

2023-05-10 Thread Joe Zeff
On 05/10/2023 10:47 AM, Todd Zullinger wrote: While I'd be fine with that, I don't know if it would work for everyone and am not intending to jump into that fire today. ;) As I wrote earlier, I'm on another list that does exactly that. Those who want or need to use that list learn to live

Re: DMARC and SPF and DKIM, oh, my!

2023-05-10 Thread Todd Zullinger
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Wed, 2023-05-10 at 17:22 +0930, Tim via users wrote: >> The list server should, of course, be taking anti-spam efforts of its >> own (only allowed authorised members to post through it). > > Just on that point, policies vary: > > 1) Block unsubscribed users > 2)

Re: Messages held for moderation.

2023-05-10 Thread Todd Zullinger
Michael Hennebry wrote: > On Tue, 9 May 2023, Joe Zeff wrote: >> On 05/09/2023 04:48 PM, Todd Zullinger wrote: >>> (trim the quoted text down to the most recent/relevant >>> messages only). >> >> This should always be done so that readers don't have to plow through >> dozens of lines from

Re: Messages held for moderation.

2023-05-10 Thread Todd Zullinger
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Tue, 2023-05-09 at 18:48 -0400, Todd Zullinger wrote: >>     The users list maintains a maximum message length of 60 >>     kilobytes; other Fedora lists may have similar length-limits. >>     Remember that thousands of copies of your message will exist >>     in

Re: Messages held for moderation.

2023-05-10 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2023-05-10 at 09:37 -0600, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 05/10/2023 08:58 AM, Michael Hennebry wrote: > > Rather often it isn't. > > I even see boilerplate quoted. > > Is there a way to moderate mail for boilerplate quoting? > > Even worse, multiple copies of boilerplate quoted.  And, as far as >

Re: Firefox - detection of exiting tabs with URLs

2023-05-10 Thread stan via users
On Wed, 10 May 2023 13:04:53 +0200 lejeczek via users wrote: > Hi guys. > > With f38 I think my Firefox is unable to detect or is > ignoring tabs which are already opened in other windows with > certain URL, when I open a new tab and want to go to a > website/URL. > I think Firefox would

Re: Messages held for moderation.

2023-05-10 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Wed, May 10, 2023 at 11:37 AM Joe Zeff wrote: > > On 05/10/2023 08:58 AM, Michael Hennebry wrote: > > Rather often it isn't. > > I even see boilerplate quoted. > > Is there a way to moderate mail for boilerplate quoting? > > Even worse, multiple copies of boilerplate quoted. And, as far as

Re: whence USB 2?

2023-05-10 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Michael Hennebry said: > BTW whatever happened to the B connectors? They're still around for "classic" devices, but USB-C includes support for both ends being the same (so now the cable doesn't care "host" vs. "device", like most HDMI, DisplayPort, ethernet, classic RS-232

Re: Messages held for moderation.

2023-05-10 Thread Joe Zeff
On 05/10/2023 08:58 AM, Michael Hennebry wrote: Rather often it isn't. I even see boilerplate quoted. Is there a way to moderate mail for boilerplate quoting? Even worse, multiple copies of boilerplate quoted. And, as far as HTML goes, I'm also on a mailing list that removes it, leaving only

Re: Messages held for moderation.

2023-05-10 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Tue, 9 May 2023, Joe Zeff wrote: On 05/09/2023 04:48 PM, Todd Zullinger wrote: (trim the quoted text down to the most recent/relevant messages only). This should always be done so that readers don't have to plow through dozens of lines from various messages looking for the relevant

Re: whence USB 2?

2023-05-10 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Tue, 9 May 2023, T.C. Hollingsworth wrote: On 5/9/23, Michael Hennebry wrote: To be clear, what does compatible mean? I hope it means that an adapter does not require any electronics. 'Tis just an extension chord with a C-male on one end and an A-female on the other. Is that what it means?

Re: DMARC and SPF and DKIM, oh, my!

2023-05-10 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2023-05-10 at 17:22 +0930, Tim via users wrote: > The list server should, of course, be taking anti-spam efforts of its > own (only allowed authorised members to post through it). Just on that point, policies vary: 1) Block unsubscribed users 2) Allow unsubscribed users 3) Hold

Re: Messages held for moderation.

2023-05-10 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2023-05-09 at 18:48 -0400, Todd Zullinger wrote: >     The users list maintains a maximum message length of 60 >     kilobytes; other Fedora lists may have similar length-limits. >     Remember that thousands of copies of your message will exist >     in mailboxes -- please keep your

Firefox - detection of exiting tabs with URLs

2023-05-10 Thread lejeczek via users
Hi guys. With f38 I think my Firefox is unable to detect or is ignoring tabs which are already opened in other windows with certain URL, when I open a new tab and want to go to a website/URL. I think Firefox would then say, would offer something like "switch to tab". Do you see it it too?

Re: DMARC and SPF and DKIM, oh, my!

2023-05-10 Thread Tim via users
On Tue, 2023-05-09 at 22:37 -0500, Thomas Cameron via users wrote: > I've tested my DMARC, DKIM, and SPF records against multiple test sites, > and it's set up correctly. I've sent email from my server to GMail, read > the headers, and all tests pass. > > The problem is, as far as I can tell,

Re: DMARC and SPF and DKIM, oh, my!

2023-05-10 Thread T.C. Hollingsworth
On 5/9/23, Thomas Cameron via users wrote: > All - > > I've tested my DMARC, DKIM, and SPF records against multiple test sites, > and it's set up correctly. I've sent email from my server to GMail, read > the headers, and all tests pass. > > The problem is, as far as I can tell, EVERY server that

Re: whence USB 2?

2023-05-10 Thread T.C. Hollingsworth
On 5/9/23, Michael Hennebry wrote: > To be clear, what does compatible mean? > I hope it means that an adapter does not require any electronics. > 'Tis just an extension chord with a C-male > on one end and an A-female on the other. > Is that what it means? Correct, USB-A to USB-C adapters/cords