Re: Manipulating journalctl output

2014-01-03 Thread Frank Murphy
On Fri, 3 Jan 2014 02:07:13 +0100 Suvayu Ali fatkasuvayu+li...@gmail.com wrote: This is very interesting, I would love to use that. But I don't think I understand how. What do I put in the crontab, how do I send this SIGUSR2 signal to journald? An easier method: /etc/systemd/journald.conf

Re: announcement --- planned Yum replacement now ready for user testing

2014-01-03 Thread Frank Murphy
On Fri, 3 Jan 2014 12:22:41 +0200 Adrian Sevcenco adrian.sevce...@cern.ch wrote: (Murphy says that it will :) ) Thanks! Adrian I said nothing of the kind! ___ Regards, Frank www.frankly3d.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription

Re: since F20 update, cron has stopped sending mail

2014-01-03 Thread Frank Murphy
On Fri, 03 Jan 2014 09:13:37 -0600 Steven Stern subscribed-li...@sterndata.com wrote: With F19, I got email from cron on all jobs that produced output. I no longer get those mails after upgrading to F20. I have verified that the jobs are run. There are no entries in /var/log/maillog for

Re: Trying to use mailx for logwatch

2014-01-03 Thread Frank Murphy
On Thu, 02 Jan 2014 17:29:20 -0500 Robert Moskowitz r...@htt-consult.com wrote: And the mail is failing. Here is what I have done: I determined that in: /usr/share/logwatch/default.conf/logwatch.conf mailer = /usr/sbin/sendmail -t so in: /etc/logwatch/conf/logwatch.conf mailer =

Re: Trying to use mailx for logwatch

2014-01-03 Thread Frank Murphy
On Fri, 03 Jan 2014 12:19:16 -0500 Robert Moskowitz r...@htt-consult.com wrote: so in: /etc/logwatch/conf/logwatch.conf mailer = /usr/bin/mailx -t mailer = /usr/bin/mailx -s Logwatch user # where user is you. Why subject? Do you mean that I should not include -t Don't include -t

Re: Trying to use mailx for logwatch

2014-01-03 Thread Frank Murphy
On Fri, 03 Jan 2014 13:09:58 -0500 Robert Moskowitz r...@htt-consult.com wrote: Well we will see how it goes. I will let you know. Just trying to figure out where the problems are coming for you. ergo no mail attempted? attempted, but not delivered. ___ Regards, Frank

Re: dnf update -

2014-01-03 Thread Frank Murphy
On Fri, 3 Jan 2014 14:07:24 -0500 Rahul Sundaram methe...@gmail.com wrote: As I just noted in devel list, my understanding is that the end result will continue to be called yum. I certainly hope that is the case Rahul I hope you don't mean dnf will obsolete yum, if someone actually needs

Re: F20 - Unintended consequences of no default MTA - How best to fix

2014-01-03 Thread Frank Murphy
On Fri, 3 Jan 2014 16:17:43 -0700 Pete Travis li...@petetravis.com wrote: The debate on default policy is best left to my betters, but as I said earlier today, I will write something about the journal and journalctl in the near future. --Pete It would be most appreciated, By someone man

Re: F20 - Unintended consequences of no default MTA - How best to fix

2014-01-02 Thread Frank Murphy
On Wed, 1 Jan 2014 20:40:35 -0700 Chris Murphy li...@colorremedies.com wrote: ctly how they get it during installation itself. Why put a feature in the GUI installer to add a user to /etc/aliases for getting system mail messages when there isn't an MTA? Since the MTA will need to be

Re: upgrade fedora 19 to fedora 20 issue with GPG key

2014-01-02 Thread Frank Murphy
On Thu, 02 Jan 2014 10:02:41 +0100 Rafnews raf.n...@gmail.com wrote: therefore what is wrong ? thx. Problem is not a Fedora problem RPMfusion problem fedup --network 20 --disablerepo=rpmfusion* ___ Regards, Frank www.frankly3d.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: upgrade fedora 19 to fedora 20 issue with GPG key

2014-01-02 Thread Frank Murphy
On Thu, 02 Jan 2014 11:10:24 +0100 Sjoerd Mullender sjo...@acm.org wrote: It *is* a fedora problem in the sense that the OP is using Fedora. Sure, it's *also* an RPMfusion problem in that it causes a problem in the upgrade process (and as such, it should not be reported to the Fedora

Re: announcement --- planned Yum replacement now ready for user testing

2014-01-02 Thread Frank Murphy
On Fri, 20 Dec 2013 12:33:18 +0100 Ales Kozumplik akozu...@redhat.com wrote: We look forward to hear your feedback and kindly ask you to use bugzilla to report any issues found. How does it handle yum plugins?, I use yum (updateonboot) --security on all daily reboot boxes. # + all other

Re: upgrade fedora 19 to fedora 20 issue with GPG key

2014-01-02 Thread Frank Murphy
On Thu, 2 Jan 2014 11:42:17 +0100 Suvayu Ali fatkasuvayu+li...@gmail.com wrote: In the least, there could be a section in the FAQ, or release notes to deal with these kind of community repo out-of-sync problems. Confession: I did not check if such information exists; if it does, the OP can

Re: upgrade fedora 19 to fedora 20 issue with GPG key

2014-01-02 Thread Frank Murphy
On Thu, 2 Jan 2014 11:42:17 +0100 Suvayu Ali fatkasuvayu+li...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 02, 2014 at 10:29:49AM +, Frank Murphy wrote: On Thu, 02 Jan 2014 11:10:24 +0100 Sjoerd Mullender sjo...@acm.org wrote: It *is* a fedora problem in the sense that the OP is using Fedora

Re: announcement --- planned Yum replacement now ready for user testing

2014-01-02 Thread Frank Murphy
On Thu, 02 Jan 2014 11:50:56 +0100 Ales Kozumplik akozu...@redhat.com wrote: we won't support Yum plugins directly but will support a plugin mechanism and will actively help with porting the plugins. If there are specific plugins you'd like to see sooner please open bugs for them.

Re: upgrade fedora 19 to fedora 20 issue with GPG key

2014-01-02 Thread Frank Murphy
On Thu, 2 Jan 2014 12:00:57 +0100 Suvayu Ali fatkasuvayu+li...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you. I guess that solves the OPs problem. That said, I never understand why the yum upgrade path is never recommended. In all these years of using the dvd, preupgrade, fedup, I have never found a more

Re: Manipulating journalctl output

2014-01-02 Thread Frank Murphy
On Wed, 1 Jan 2014 20:57:38 +0100 Suvayu Ali fatkasuvayu+li...@gmail.com wrote: 1. If your journal size is large, piping to grep is quite a bit slow. http://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/systemd-journald.service.html SIGUSR2 ## crontab -e weekly rotate (or your preference), help

Re: announcement --- planned Yum replacement now ready for user testing

2014-01-02 Thread Frank Murphy
On Thu, 2 Jan 2014 13:15:22 +0100 Suvayu Ali fatkasuvayu+li...@gmail.com wrote: Is there any scenario where removing all kernels would make sense? writing malware :) ___ Regards, Frank www.frankly3d.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change

Re: Reverse E-Mail Blockage.....

2014-01-02 Thread Frank Murphy
On Thu, 02 Jan 2014 15:32:49 +0300 Mihamina Rakotomandimby miham...@rktmb.org wrote: On 01/02/2014 12:12 AM, David wrote: Good luck and have fun. Like I said*I* started with Gmail. That filters the emails*before* they get downloaded to my email client. Yes but GMail *also* filters

Re: related question -- how do i interpret the cronie dailyjobs dependency?

2014-01-02 Thread Frank Murphy
On Thu, 2 Jan 2014 10:33:45 -0500 (EST) Robert P. J. Day rpj...@crashcourse.ca wrote: also, what is that dailyjobs entry? there's no such package and if i list verbosely, i get: Guessing here? /etc/crond.daily ___ Regards, Frank www.frankly3d.com -- users mailing list

Re: related question -- how do i interpret the cronie dailyjobs dependency?

2014-01-02 Thread Frank Murphy
On Thu, 2 Jan 2014 15:52:20 + Frank Murphy frankl...@gmail.com wrote: duh http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/rpminfo?rpmID=4435367 ___ Regards, Frank www.frankly3d.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https

F20 journalctl

2013-12-31 Thread Frank Murphy
Has anyone found a way to: journalctl | grep last 10 minutes -- Regards, Frank www.frankly3d.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct:

Re: F20 - Unintended consequences of no default MTA - How best to fix

2013-12-31 Thread Frank Murphy
On Tue, 31 Dec 2013 10:50:46 +0800 Ed Greshko ed.gres...@greshko.com wrote: I know this works with procmail but not sure about mailx. You can certainly test So, you don't need sendmail. procmail will do just fine. systemctl status crond.service 4181 /usr/sbin/crond -n

Re: F20 journalctl

2013-12-31 Thread Frank Murphy
On Tue, 31 Dec 2013 20:17:42 +0800 Ed Greshko ed.gres...@greshko.com wrote: On 12/31/13 19:24, Frank Murphy wrote: Has anyone found a way to: journalctl | grep last 10 minutes man journalctl --since=, --until= Start showing entries on or newer than the specified

Re: F20 journalctl

2013-12-31 Thread Frank Murphy
On Tue, 31 Dec 2013 11:24:28 + Frank Murphy frankl...@gmail.com wrote: Has anyone found a way to: journalctl | grep last 10 minutes Still not there :( journalctl -b --since=now (journalctl -b -f) Still haven't worked out 10min segments, maybe time fro an rfe. -- Regards, Frank

Re: F20 journalctl [Solved]

2013-12-31 Thread Frank Murphy
On Tue, 31 Dec 2013 15:21:12 +0200 Jonathan Dieter jdie...@lesbg.com wrote: On Tue, 2013-12-31 at 11:24 +, Frank Murphy wrote: Has anyone found a way to: journalctl | grep last 10 minutes journalctl --since -600 Jonathan Thanks Jonathan -- Regards, Frank www.frankly3d.com

Re: System mail (Fedora 20)

2013-12-30 Thread Frank Murphy
On Mon, 30 Dec 2013 01:26:32 +0100 Suvayu Ali fatkasuvayu+li...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Dec 29, 2013 at 12:24:14PM +, Frank Murphy wrote: On Sun, 29 Dec 2013 13:02:06 +0100 Suvayu Ali fatkasuvayu+li...@gmail.com wrote: rpm -q exim sendmail postfix mailx package exim

Re: F20 - Unintended consequences of no default MTA - How best to fix

2013-12-30 Thread Frank Murphy
On Tue, 31 Dec 2013 01:46:07 +0100 Suvayu Ali fatkasuvayu+li...@gmail.com wrote: I was under the same impression, hence my original thread: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/users/2013-December/443441.html However I was told (by Frank) that it is possible using mailx.

Re: F20 - Unintended consequences of no default MTA - How best to fix

2013-12-30 Thread Frank Murphy
On Tue, 31 Dec 2013 02:27:06 + Frank Murphy frankl...@gmail.com wrote: Apologies for self-reply. Figured a picture == 1000 these things: http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-311213-024006.php Test-Email was: ls -l $HOME | mailx -s The content of my home directory frank -- Regards

Re: System mail (Fedora 20)

2013-12-29 Thread Frank Murphy
On Sun, 29 Dec 2013 13:02:06 +0100 Suvayu Ali fatkasuvayu+li...@gmail.com wrote: rpm -q exim sendmail postfix mailx package exim is not installed package sendmail is not installed package postfix is not installed mailx-12.5-10.fc20.x86_64 As I stated mailx allows me to read system-mail in

Re: System mail (Fedora 20)

2013-12-29 Thread Frank Murphy
On Sun, 29 Dec 2013 12:24:14 + Frank Murphy frankl...@gmail.com wrote: Forgot a link: http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/pseries/v5r3/index.jsp?topic=/com.ibm.aix.files/doc/aixfiles/mailrc.htm -- Regards, Frank www.frankly3d.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: System mail (Fedora 20)

2013-12-29 Thread Frank Murphy
On Sun, 29 Dec 2013 14:30:29 +0100 Lars E. Pettersson l...@homer.se wrote: On 12/29/2013 01:24 PM, Frank Murphy wrote: As I stated mailx allows me to read system-mail in claws-mail. Have you changed anything in the mailx setup? /etc/mail.rc ? As far as I can tell I can only get system

Re: doc(s) for ecryptfs-setup-private don't mention needing ecryptfs group

2013-12-28 Thread Frank Murphy
On Sat, 28 Dec 2013 03:24:44 -0500 (EST) Robert P. J. Day rpj...@crashcourse.ca wrote: while this sounds niggling, it is one of the things that can drive someone a bit batty as they (me) think, wait ... did i miss something? did i not read properly? is this something that deserves a

Re: System mail (Fedora 20)

2013-12-27 Thread Frank Murphy
On Thu, 26 Dec 2013 08:17:37 -0800 Mike Wright mike.wri...@mailinator.com wrote: Where does one specify that mailx should be used? Thanx Do you mean within claws-mail? -- Regards, Frank www.frankly3d.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change

Re: Copy game to USB stick -

2013-12-27 Thread Frank Murphy
On Fri, 27 Dec 2013 08:23:05 -0500 Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA bobgood...@wildblue.net wrote: Can someone recommend a procedure for copying a Windows game cd to a USB flash drive with my Fedora 20 system. My grandson has a new HP computer and game however he has no CD drive to install

Re: System mail (Fedora 20)

2013-12-27 Thread Frank Murphy
On Fri, 27 Dec 2013 14:01:42 -0800 Mike Wright mike.wri...@mailinator.com wrote: Sorry for the delay. I was checking out claws-mail... What I was looking for is how to tell crond to use mailx instead of sendmail. You don't need to. it was always the mail command that done it. (iirc)

Re: System mail (Fedora 20)

2013-12-26 Thread Frank Murphy
On Wed, 25 Dec 2013 14:17:17 +0100 Suvayu Ali fatkasuvayu+li...@gmail.com wrote: I know I can always look in the logs, but I would probably miss something if I have to do this manually for every daemon that is running. It is much simpler to monitor this through system mail. Hence, I would

Re: Tool to convert a video DVD for YouTube uploading

2013-12-26 Thread Frank Murphy
On Thu, 26 Dec 2013 12:33:47 + Paul Smith phh...@gmail.com wrote: Dear All, I have a video DVD with the following structure: $ dir AUDIO_TS VIDEO_TS $ I would like to upload the video into YouTube. However, it seems that I have first to convert the video DVD to one of the

Re: relabel

2013-12-25 Thread Frank Murphy
On Wed, 25 Dec 2013 18:46:35 +0100 Patrick Dupre pdu...@gmx.com wrote: Hello, I dupliqued a distribution. I propably need to relabel the partitions. and/or run restorecon How I do it in fedora19 ? Thank. sudo fixfiles onboot # then reboot -- Regards, Frank www.frankly3d.com --

Re: Possibly OT --- Adobe flash player; how to get it to run?

2013-12-24 Thread Frank Murphy
On Tue, 24 Dec 2013 21:56:22 +1300 Rolf Turner r.tur...@auckland.ac.nz wrote: People keep sending me links to videos and then when I click on them Firefox says that the video won't play since I don't have flash installed. But then when I click on the installer I (eventually) get messages to

Re: System mail (Fedora 20)

2013-12-24 Thread Frank Murphy
On Wed, 25 Dec 2013 06:30:22 +0100 lee l...@yun.yagibdah.de wrote: A system cannot correctly function without a way for such processes to send email. Yes, they can. Cron can work whether you know about it or not eg. journalctl | grep cron | less # man journalctl if worried you can always

Re: where is skype tray icone on F20?

2013-12-21 Thread Frank Murphy
On Fri, 20 Dec 2013 13:04:42 -0500 Temlakos temla...@gmail.com wrote: I use KDE. How do I integrate Skype into that environment? Temlakos Will KDE allow you to create your own launcher on the Desktop, or whatever taskbar it's uses? -- Regards, Frank www.frankly3d.com -- users mailing

Re: gmvault fails on fedora 17

2013-12-19 Thread Frank Murphy
On Thu, 19 Dec 2013 07:32:44 +0100 M. Fioretti mfiore...@nexaima.net wrote: This is why, while being perfectly aware that Fedora 17 is unsupported, that even those other packages may stop working etc.. I'd really like to know what, exactly, makes gmvault fail in that way, on that system.

Re: Fedora 19 packages on F20

2013-12-19 Thread Frank Murphy
On Thu, 19 Dec 2013 01:16:03 -0600 Ranjan Maitra maitra.mbox.igno...@inbox.com wrote: which is what would happen if we just had a rolling release model That was argued to death on @devel it lost -- Regards, Frank www.frankly3d.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: f20 strange local repo behaviour

2013-12-19 Thread Frank Murphy
On Wed, 18 Dec 2013 18:24:07 -0500 Robert Moskowitz r...@htt-consult.com wrote: when I edited the yum.repos.d files to point to my local repos, I got the following error doing a yum update: Error: Package: gnutls-utils-3.1.17-3.fc20.i686 (updates) Requires: libopts.so.25 You

Re: Fedora 19 packages on F20

2013-12-19 Thread Frank Murphy
On Thu, 19 Dec 2013 11:17:46 +0100 Mateusz Marzantowicz mmarzantow...@osdf.com.pl wrote: ownload for an upgrade if they did. That just means that someone haven done his job or there was an error during package rebuild which hasn't been fixed yet (correct me if I'm wrong but there is something

Re: how closely does fedora 20 adhere to the FHS? if FHS is relevant amymore.

2013-12-19 Thread Frank Murphy
On Thu, 19 Dec 2013 07:51:59 -0500 Robert P. J. Day rpj...@crashcourse.ca wrote: is it still used as a file/directory layout standard? how *is* it used these days? surely things have changed somewhat since 2004, although the general concepts of the FHS are still totally valid. rday

Re: Fedora 19 packages on F20

2013-12-19 Thread Frank Murphy
On Thu, 19 Dec 2013 07:36:39 -0600 Ranjan Maitra maitra.mbox.igno...@inbox.com wrote: Actually not in this case. It was a clean install. I would still run yum --releasever=20 distro-sync --skip-broken -- Regards, Frank www.frankly3d.com -- users mailing list

Re: Fedora 19 packages on F20

2013-12-19 Thread Frank Murphy
On Thu, 19 Dec 2013 15:18:18 +0100 Mateusz Marzantowicz mmarzantow...@osdf.com.pl wrote: On 19.12.2013 11:22, Frank Murphy wrote: On Thu, 19 Dec 2013 11:17:46 +0100 Mateusz Marzantowicz mmarzantow...@osdf.com.pl wrote: ownload for an upgrade if they did. That just means that someone

Re: F20: system does not resume from hibernate

2013-12-19 Thread Frank Murphy
On Thu, 19 Dec 2013 08:50:04 -0600 Ranjan Maitra maitra.mbox.igno...@inbox.com wrote: You can also use resume=/dev/sdxy (your swap partition). That's more simple :-) Absolutely, thanks! But where do I find this value? I can't see it on my df: Answering my own question: after

Re: FedUp 18 - 19 Orphans

2013-12-19 Thread Frank Murphy
On Thu, 19 Dec 2013 12:16:16 -0500 Kevin H. Hobbs hob...@ohio.edu wrote: I just updated from Fedora 18 to 19 with fedup. Any idea what's going on? package-cleanup --dupes packagecleanup --cleandupes -- Regards, Frank www.frankly3d.com -- users mailing list

Re: f20 - yum locally rebuilding deltas is so slow

2013-12-19 Thread Frank Murphy
On Thu, 19 Dec 2013 17:30:08 -0500 Robert Moskowitz r...@htt-consult.com wrote: On my Asus 900. I just started a yum update fire* libre* that took next ot no time to download from my local repo, but took over 10 min to build the local delta. Seems I am better of NOT having drpms available.

Re: gmvault fails on fedora 17

2013-12-18 Thread Frank Murphy
On Wed, 18 Dec 2013 11:11:49 +0100 M. Fioretti mfiore...@nexaima.net wrote: Greetings, I'm testing gmvault (http://gmvault.org/) a gmail backup tool, on fedora 17 x86_64. I have followed all the instructions (enable the app, change gmail settings etc) in the install page:

Re: Fedora-20 beta -

2013-12-17 Thread Frank Murphy
On Tue, 17 Dec 2013 13:38:49 -0500 Bob Goodwin bobgood...@wildblue.net wrote: What do I do with a Fedora-20 beta install to update it? yum or dnf update it. -- Regards, Frank www.frankly3d.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription

Re: Yum update failure -

2013-12-15 Thread Frank Murphy
On Sun, 15 Dec 2013 04:16:23 -0500 There was a fix for that in F20, F19 F20 use the same yum. Grab the latest yum(f20) from koji, and install: http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=484549 -- Regards, Frank www.frankly3d.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: Strange Warnings on updating tonight

2013-12-15 Thread Frank Murphy
On Sat, 14 Dec 2013 15:48:22 + (UTC) Beartooth bearto...@comcast.net wrote: I looked back past the first of the month, and found no thread on yum groups. I did find one on yum in F19, but it was over my head. In case it tells any of you anything, yum update on an F20 has

Re: Strange Warnings on updating tonight

2013-12-13 Thread Frank Murphy
On Fri, 13 Dec 2013 01:45:30 -0800 Les Howell hlhow...@pacbell.net wrote: Hi, everyone, Asked and answered Read the previous threads which also mention yum groups. -- Regards, Frank www.frankly3d.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change

Re: Strange Warnings on updating tonight

2013-12-13 Thread Frank Murphy
On Fri, 13 Dec 2013 01:45:30 -0800 Les Howell hlhow...@pacbell.net wrote: Hi, everyone, Asked and answered Read the previous threads which also mention yum groups. -- Regards, Frank www.frankly3d.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change

Re: What's wrong with yum in F19?

2013-12-13 Thread Frank Murphy
On Fri, 13 Dec 2013 15:23:26 +0100 poma pomidorabelis...@gmail.com wrote: Did Not Finish Do Not Forget Does Not Follow Data Not Found Did Not Find Does Not Function Do Not Freeze Do Not Fix Do Not Fax Do Not Forward poma tla's much ;) -- Regards, Frank www.frankly3d.com --

Re: auto-mounting removable drives

2013-12-09 Thread Frank Murphy
On Mon, 9 Dec 2013 09:23:49 -0600 Dale Dellutri daledellu...@gmail.com wrote: This is an XFCE issue, not a fedora issue. You probably should post this question on the XFCE general discussion list: https://mail.xfce.org/mailman/listinfo/xfce yum search xfce Fedora packaged Xfce, it's

Re: Writing to an USB stick on Fedora 19

2013-12-02 Thread Frank Murphy
On Mon, 02 Dec 2013 14:11:13 +0100 Florian Weimer fwei...@redhat.com wrote: What's the correct way to write an image to a USB stick? I don't write to it while any file systems are mounted. Mounting happens automatically when I plug in the stick, and if I click Eject in the GNOME

Re: Writing English.

2013-11-24 Thread Frank Murphy
On Sun, 24 Nov 2013 10:18:59 +1300 Rolf Turner r.tur...@auckland.ac.nz wrote: The p is silent; as in phthisis. Or as in swimming. :-) cheers, Rolf Turner There are no result for Psigh in the Oxford English Dictionary, is you meant an exacerbation it would be Sigh -- Regards,

Re: Can't stand Gnome3, I think it's time for Fedora to move on

2013-11-24 Thread Frank Murphy
On Thu, 21 Nov 2013 14:10:33 -0800 Hugh Caley hca...@rocketsoftware.com wrote: I'm voting for Cinnamon, since the developer of compiz isn't interested in keeping it going. But maybe if MATE was the default for Fedora he'd change his mind? Or someone else would take over? Hugh Unless

Re: xfce, gnome and kde

2013-11-21 Thread Frank Murphy
On Thu, 21 Nov 2013 08:13:41 +0100 Rafnews raf.n...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, i installed on a very old laptop Fedora 19. Firstly Stick to the lightweights, wait till you run Xfce (my experience) on a 6\8 core with 32gb ram. The others will still be slow. -- Regards, Frank www.frankly3d.com

Re: xfce, gnome and kde

2013-11-21 Thread Frank Murphy
On Thu, 21 Nov 2013 09:40:02 +0100 Rafnews raf.n...@gmail.com wrote: i just need to find a player that can shutdown the computer once movie is ended... yum info xbmc https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/XBMC -- Regards, Frank www.frankly3d.com -- users mailing list

Re: Software Install?....

2013-11-17 Thread Frank Murphy
On Sat, 16 Nov 2013 18:09:28 -0500 EGO.II-1 eoconno...@gmail.com wrote: it would seem that there's no way to do it unless you know the package name and do it from the terminal? If you know what the package does you could yum search for it, eg yum search email or switch to a Desktop, that

Re: How avoid unwanted systemd-journald?

2013-11-17 Thread Frank Murphy
On Sun, 17 Nov 2013 12:12:08 +0100 Patrick Lists fedora-l...@puzzled.xs4all.nl wrote: IIRC that's the reason why journald supports encryption. It's not encrypted it's binary, similar to any compiled app or virus. -- Regards, Frank www.frankly3d.com -- users mailing list

Re: How avoid unwanted systemd-journald?

2013-11-17 Thread Frank Murphy
On Sun, 17 Nov 2013 12:37:03 +0100 Patrick Lists fedora-l...@puzzled.xs4all.nl wrote: I meant the transmission of the log to another log server. Not the log itself. Anyway, here is Lennart Poettering's rationale behind journald: One of the things you will see after a hard reset is:

Re: Fedora 19 does not see hard disks on a Dell XPS 8700

2013-11-07 Thread Frank Murphy
On Thu, 07 Nov 2013 15:49:07 +0530 Rejy M Cyriac rcyr...@redhat.com wrote: On 11/07/2013 02:05 PM, Sebastiano Vigna wrote: I hope someone as suggestions about this. The Dell XPS 8700 is a brand-new model using the i7-4770. The 8700 has a 2T HD and a 32GB SSD that is supposed to act as a

Re: Linux Tablet Question?

2013-11-07 Thread Frank Murphy
On Thu, 07 Nov 2013 21:03:46 +1000 Michael D. Setzer II mi...@kuentos.guam.net wrote: I have a Pengpod 1000 that runs both Andriod and Linux from a 32G SD card. The Arm list may be the best bet to get feedback: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/arm -- Regards, Frank

Re: Best (Fedora) way to capture/archive videos for LATER editing?

2013-11-07 Thread Frank Murphy
On Fri, 08 Nov 2013 00:23:06 +1030 Tim ignored_mail...@yahoo.com.au wrote: Allegedly, on or about 07 November 2013, M. Fioretti sent: I already know my way around nonlinear video editing on Linux. I'd be interested to know what you use. I still don't use computers for editing my own work,

yum-updateonboot critical-path

2013-11-04 Thread Frank Murphy
On my Fedora boxes I still use yum-updateonboot. started with a custom .service file. Is there any method I can get it to reboot if a critpath rpm is updated, I have as yet found an easy method, without typing all installed @critpath into /etc/sysconfig/yum-updateonboot, -- Regards, Frank

Re: ObamaCare website violates open source license(s)

2013-10-25 Thread Frank Murphy
On Fri, 25 Oct 2013 08:37:00 -0800 Antonio Olivares wingat...@inbox.com wrote: Zzzz..buhbuhbuhbuhbuh... . . . . . . . -- Regards, Frank www.frankly3d.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options:

Re: Evolution - keeps losing mail filters

2013-10-20 Thread Frank Murphy
On Fri, 18 Oct 2013 20:42:38 +0100 John Horne john.ho...@plymouth.ac.uk wrote: and I see that F20/21 will be using branches 3.9 and 3.10. I may take a stab at rebuilding the F20 source RPMS of evolution and evolution-data-server on my F19 system, but it may be too dependent on other things for

Re: grub2 booting question

2013-10-20 Thread Frank Murphy
On Sun, 20 Oct 2013 12:45:33 +0200 Joachim Backes joachim.bac...@rhrk.uni-kl.de wrote: Hi all, having a (smaller) problem: during booting with grub2, I see some grub2 (error) messages disappearing before the grub menu appears on the screen. Maybe? journalctl | grep grub2 sudo

Re: How to keep an old kernel?

2013-10-14 Thread Frank Murphy
On Thu, 10 Oct 2013 01:40:41 +0200 Timothy Murphy gayle...@eircom.net wrote: In any case, I have one 3.10 kernel in my three grub kernels. I'm yum-updating with exclude=kernel* to avoid losing this kernel. But I'm wondering if there is some way of telling yum that I want to keep this kernel,

Re: How to keep an old kernel?

2013-10-14 Thread Frank Murphy
On Mon, 14 Oct 2013 22:11:56 +0200 Timothy Murphy gayle...@eircom.net wrote: http://lists.baseurl.org/pipermail/yum/2013-October/024030.html This suggests yumdb set installonly keep kernel-nnn does what you want. I'm not quite sure what nnn is in this case. I want to keep

Re: Bill Oliver's essay on just follow instructions.

2013-10-12 Thread Frank Murphy
On Sat, 12 Oct 2013 11:10:18 +1300 Rolf Turner r.tur...@auckland.ac.nz wrote: I have no patience with those on this list who slang off at Harald. You may need some, they are most probably exacerbated, but not as used to writing up reports as Bill. -- Regards, Frank www.frankly3d.com --

Sometimes I need to kill java

2013-10-11 Thread Frank Murphy
F20 but general question. I test both upstream and Fedora Azureus (Vuze) use openjdk for both. I created an azvuze.service to automate restarts (during the night) Sometimes openjdk stays, sometimes crashes out. If it stays, it prevents restart. by either service file, manually typing # azureus.

Re: Sometimes I need to kill java

2013-10-11 Thread Frank Murphy
On Fri, 11 Oct 2013 12:30:25 +0100 Ian Malone ibmal...@gmail.com wrote: On 11 October 2013 12:10, Frank Murphy frankl...@gmail.com wrote: For example: journalctl | grep azureus | grep ERROR: unable to bind /dev/null killall -SIGHUP java Thanks Ian, More elegant to be able to detect

Re: How to keep an old kernel?

2013-10-10 Thread Frank Murphy
On Thu, 10 Oct 2013 01:40:41 +0200 Timothy Murphy gayle...@eircom.net wrote: In any case, I have one 3.10 kernel in my three grub kernels. I'm yum-updating with exclude=kernel* to avoid losing this kernel. But I'm wondering if there is some way of telling yum that I want to keep this kernel,

Re: How to keep an old kernel?

2013-10-10 Thread Frank Murphy
On Thu, 10 Oct 2013 08:36:18 +0100 Frank Murphy frankl...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, 10 Oct 2013 01:40:41 +0200 Timothy Murphy gayle...@eircom.net wrote: In any case, I have one 3.10 kernel in my three grub kernels. I'm yum-updating with exclude=kernel* to avoid losing this kernel

Re: How to keep an old kernel?

2013-10-10 Thread Frank Murphy
On Thu, 10 Oct 2013 10:13:30 -0400 Jim binary...@comcast.net wrote: In Fedora repo there is a package named yum-plugin-versionlock-1.1.31-10.fc18.noarch install it. He still want to be able to update kernel, What he may be able to do is backup, needed initramfs, vmlinuz, and config to

Re: How to keep an old kernel?

2013-10-10 Thread Frank Murphy
On Thu, 10 Oct 2013 10:34:34 -0400 David dgbo...@gmail.com wrote: These 'kernel files' are created when a kernel installed and they are specific for *that* kernel. They do not work with older or newer kernels. If *this* kernel is removed they no longer have any value. If you re-install that

Re: list rpms question (SOLVED)

2013-10-09 Thread Frank Murphy
On Tue, 8 Oct 2013 23:03:05 -0500 Ranjan Maitra maitra.mbox.igno...@inbox.com wrote: You want: rpm -qa --qf '%{name}\n' texlive\* -- Wow! Thanks very much for this!! Best wishes, Ranjan If you want all rpms on the machine, and keep a list of them rpm -qa --qf '%{name}\n'

Re: list rpms question (SOLVED)

2013-10-09 Thread Frank Murphy
On Wed, 09 Oct 2013 03:45:32 -0400 Bob Goodwin ~ Zuni, Virginia, USA bobgood...@wildblue.net wrote: Packages skipped because of dependency problems: gnofin-0.8.4-1.i386 from /gnofin-0.8.4-1.i386 I assume this means it has failed? Bob you could down the gnofin*.src.rpm yum

Re: list rpms question (SOLVED)

2013-10-09 Thread Frank Murphy
On Wed, 09 Oct 2013 10:18:43 -0400 Bob Goodwin ~ Zuni, Virginia, USA bobgood...@wildblue.net wrote: [bobg@box10 ~]$ mock -r fc19.x86_64 rebuild /home/bobg/gnofin-0.8.4-1.src.rpm ERROR: Could not find required config file: /etc/mock/fc19.x86_64.cfg try mock -r fedora-19-x86_64 if

Re: usb stick specify as /dev/sdz

2013-10-01 Thread Frank Murphy
On Tue, 1 Oct 2013 15:43:54 -0400 Paul W. Frields sticks...@gmail.com wrote: Is there a reason not to use the persistent name already provided under /dev/disk? Doesn't seem to work if alternate manufacturer, or port is used, or even if the port is fed to another box. -- Regards, Frank

Re: Script Help (Bash) SOLVED

2013-09-30 Thread Frank Murphy
On Sat, 28 Sep 2013 10:31:07 -0500 inode0 ino...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Sep 28, 2013 at 6:21 AM, Frank Murphy frankl...@gmail.com wrote: Still haven't mastered bash, not even a jack ( Have strung some command(s) together in /etc/cron.daily #!/bin/bash ## Download no-bebug rawhide

luks keyfiles and two stubborn disks

2013-09-30 Thread Frank Murphy
I use an usb based keyfile, to unlock luks disks\partitions. It works on all boxes, but two hard-disks on my torrent box. which politely wait for paswword to be entered. cryptseup luksAddKey has been used on both drives. Can't figure it out. -- Regards, Frank www.frankly3d.com -- users

usb stick specify as /dev/sdz

2013-09-30 Thread Frank Murphy
Is it possible to have a usb stick used a specific /dev/sdz based on device label So no matter which usb slot, it's pugged into, gets the same sdz my udev rule. so far: BUS==usb, KERNEL==sd*, ATTRS{label}==foo_or_bar, [...] -- Regards, Frank www.frankly3d.com -- users mailing list

mock -r *.src wildcard?

2013-09-28 Thread Frank Murphy
Put the following commands together: #!/bin/bash ## Download no-bebug rawhide kernel /usr/bin/cd /var/cache/yum/x86_64/20/fedora-rawhide-kernel-nodebug-source/packages \ /usr/bin/yumdownloader --source --disablerepo=* --enablerepo=fedora-rawhide-kernel-nodebug kernel \

Script Help (Bash)

2013-09-28 Thread Frank Murphy
Still haven't mastered bash, not even a jack ( Have strung some command(s) together in /etc/cron.daily #!/bin/bash ## Download no-bebug rawhide kernel /usr/bin/cd /var/cache/yum/x86_64/20/fedora-rawhide-kernel-nodebug-source/packages \ /usr/bin/reposync --source -n

Re: Script Help (Bash)

2013-09-28 Thread Frank Murphy
On Sat, 28 Sep 2013 13:55:15 +0100 Patrick O'Callaghan pocallag...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Sep 28, 2013 at 12:21 PM, Frank Murphy frankl...@gmail.com wrote: /usr/bin/cd Without looking any further, this is clearly wrong. Even if there is a /usr/bin/cd file (see recent discussion

Re: Script Help (Bash)

2013-09-28 Thread Frank Murphy
On Sat, 28 Sep 2013 14:27:57 +0100 Junk j...@therobinsonfamily.net wrote: reposync -p dest-dir would be easier. Junk That's cleaner, but how do I stop the script if nothing to sync. -- Regards, Frank www.frankly3d.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To

Re: Script Help (Bash)

2013-09-28 Thread Frank Murphy
On Sat, 28 Sep 2013 10:31:07 -0500 inode0 ino...@gmail.com wrote: While there might be a cleaner way to detect that something was downloaded what I do is log the output from reposync and then if grep -q Download REPOSYNCLOG; then # do stuff when new things were synced fi John With

Re: desktop/server fedora versions

2013-09-25 Thread Frank Murphy
On Wed, 25 Sep 2013 14:54:59 + Robin Storch rsto...@pngmail.com wrote: Were the core Fedora versions (up to core 7) the server versions? Why are all the newer releases referred to as desktop versions? Are there server versions of the new releases somewhere? No, Fedora Desktop means it

Firewalld add service\port

2013-09-24 Thread Frank Murphy
I'm using firewalld on an F18 box, How can I add a service called vuze (azureus) Which I can then add port udp\tcp N --permanent -- Regards, Frank www.frankly3d.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options:

Re: MySQL database server

2013-09-24 Thread Frank Murphy
On Tue, 24 Sep 2013 19:41:09 +0530 Prashanth Kasula prashanthkas...@gmail.com wrote: MySQL database server try systemctl enable mysqld.service then systemctl enable mysqld.service then run systemctl status mysqld.service and see if it purring. -- Regards, Frank www.frankly3d.com -- users

Re: configure yum to ignore kernel updates?

2013-09-23 Thread Frank Murphy
On Mon, 23 Sep 2013 16:59:24 + Powell, Michael michael_pow...@mentor.com wrote: Is there a way to configure yum to ignore kernel updates besides manually removing an update before the update? The problem is that there's a very strong chance a kernel update will break drivers (read:

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