On 02.08.2013, Marko Vojinovic wrote:
While one could consider not answering a bugreport to be a display of
bad manners
It first and foremost is demotivating, which in turn results in fewer
bug reports, which in turn results in worse software..
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On 02.08.2013, inode0 wrote:
Failure to have your expectations met leads to demotivation and the
easiest way to fix that is to change your expectations.
It's free software, and therefore I'm not expecting that people find the
time to fix my bug. In 99% of all cases, the bug is reported
On 31.07.2013, Jonathan Allen wrote:
Jul 30 18:58:38 brush kernel: [ 3538.326139] ata4: hard resetting link
Jul 30 18:58:38 brush kernel: [ 3538.989992] ata4: SATA link up 1.5 Gbps
(SStatus 113 SControl 310)
Jul 30 18:58:38 brush kernel: [ 3539.007104] ata4.00: configured for PIO0
Jul 30
On 29.07.2013, Darryl L. Pierce wrote:
I have a Lenovo T530 with Optimus. But I only use the nVidia chipset on
the laptop. But I run the Nouveau drivers (after initially having to use
the closed source drivers fro nVidia) and all works fine for me.
How can you do that? Do you have a switch
On 27.07.2013, valent.turko...@gmail.com wrote:
I'm considering buying a laptop with Nvidia Optimus, and this looks really
bad!
Do yourself a favour and don't buy a laptop with optimus. I have one,
and to spare you the details: the nvidia gpu is not useable without a
lot of trouble. I finally
On 28.07.2013, Alexander Volovics wrote:
Are you not being a little harsh on the Intel GPU support.
There might be 'TONS' of reports but I myself have experience
with 6 Dell/Lenovo desktops/laptops (3 in house with daily use),
Sandybridge and Ivybridge, and have never experienced 'Hangcheck
On 26.07.2013, Martin Skjöldebrand wrote:
/ is 50 Gb
/home is 250 Gb
I want them the other way round really.
What would be the best way of trying to achieve this?
This seems quite fine to me. Anyway, if you want to change this, the
easiest way would be to make a backup og both on an
On 22.07.2013, lee wrote:
I decided against using it quite some time ago because even simple
things like mailmerge didn't work...
I have been using it extensively during my mastergrade studies,
and it has been working for me, without any major annoyances or bugs.
LaTeX works great for what
On 18.07.2013, Thomas Dineen wrote:
If I were moderator I would have unsubscribed him by now
(To reduce the health care cost (Headaches) of everyone involved.
I consider this whole thread as completely useless. Somebody doesn't
want to read somebodys mail? No problem. Use your
On 19.07.2013, Vinny Onelli wrote:
grub-install: command not found
did I missed some thing during the installation?
You want grub2-install ;-)
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On 16.07.2013, j.witvl...@mindef.nl wrote:
The /boot partition must of course remain unencrypted, otherwise you
can't boot your encrypted system at all.
Are you sure about that?
Afaicr grub2 was supposed to be able to have /boot inside the encrypted area.
(there still remains some
On 14.07.2013, Ranjan Maitra wrote:
So, I tried to encrypt the disk (option in Fedora) and failed
because /boot can not be in encrypted partition.
The /boot partition must of course remain unencrypted, otherwise you
can't boot your encrypted system at all.
I have only one HDD
and it
On 13.07.2013, John Wendel wrote:
Can someone please post the incantation necessary to remove the nouveau
driver in Fedora 19. I'd really like to install the driver directly from
Nvidia, instead of from rpmfusion.
You have to recompile your kernel with nouveau switched it off in your
kernel
On 12.07.2013, Joe Zeff wrote:
Yes, but is their experience recent enough to matter? If they tried to
upgrade using the earliest version of preupgrade, had problems and decided
never to try again, how relevant is that, especially when preupgrade's been
replaced with fedup? Unless you know
On 12.07.2013, Patrick Dupre wrote:
How can I know what is the physical partition ?
Try lsblk.
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On 08.07.2013, Joe Zeff wrote:
It might be a good idea for everybody who's already moved to F19 to say so,
including what method, what results and how many machines. That way we can
get a (slightly) better idea of how well different ways work. And, before
anybody asks, clean installs are
On 08.07.2013, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
The sample size of people in this thread isn't really enough to
extrapolate to 'most people', IMHO.
And taking into account the simple fact that usually those who
encounter(ed) problems are dominating the list, you have to deal with
publication bias :-)
On 08.07.2013, Joe Zeff wrote:
I'm still running F17, but I plan to upgrade
my laptop to 19 RSN, and once that's working properly, I'll do the same to
my desktop. I skipped 18 because of all the upgrade issues I read about
here and other Fedora help groups I infest.
I have two machines
On 07.07.2013, lee wrote:
That is not an option. I can't start from scratch every half year and
waste a week or two to get the system back to how I need it.
Have you considered to switch to some kind of rolling distribution,
then? I for myself like very much Arch..
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On 07.07.2013, lee wrote:
What kind of crap is that?
I don't know.
And does it mean that there again will be problems with updating when I try
to move to F19?
In general, I would always prefer a fresh install over any
update. Experience over the years has shown (for me) that updating is
On 30.06.2013, j.witvl...@mindef.nl wrote:
Full disc encryption on a athom demands some extra patience :-)
:-)
..if you expect performance on any
general loads from Atom, you need to get your head examined.
(Linus Torvalds 01.09.2011 in
On 29.06.2013, Roberto Ragusa wrote:
CPUs with AES-NI make encryption speed penalty basically null (even on a SSD);
This is not true in my case. My OCZ Vertex delivers 465 MB/s
unencrypted, and 167 MB/s encrypted with aes-xts-plain64:sha256 using
the Core i5-2450's AES-NI and AVX instruction
On 29.06.2013, Roberto Ragusa wrote:
You should try aes-cbc-essiv:sha256, it could give you 330 MB/s.
After encountering the mentioned performance drop, I didn't encrypt at
all. The only purpose of encrypting for me is to protect my data
in case my laptop gets lost or stolen. I decided to have
On 28.06.2013, j.witvl...@mindef.nl wrote:
The only valid reason I can think about,
is that other people have physically access to your machine
If somebody has physical access to your machine, you're hosed. A
hardware keylogger could have been installed, a camera which spies on
you and
On 23.06.2013, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
Something on a couple of my machines takes about 20 seconds to wind down,
during a reboot or a shutdown, and I'd like to figure out what it is.
This has been an ongoing problem on all of my machines, and it boils
down to systemd itself. You can recompile
On 22.06.2013, Paul Smith wrote:
How can I see the total disk size of my hard disk?
hdparm -I /dev/sda
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On 10.06.2013, Lingxian Guo wrote:
Just but unfamiliar,I am using Fedora 18 64bit .The plugin of the Adobe
Flash Player should be installed to Firefox,I do not know how to do?
1. Download the plugin from Adobe from
http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/ and choose the tar.gz. file.
2. Copy
On 28.05.2013, Richard Vickery wrote:
From: Mail Delivery Subsystem MAILER-DAEMON@localhost.localdomain
To: richard@localhost.localdomain
Is this routable?
This is not a mutt, but a mailserver issue. You'll have to get your
local mailserver configured to accept mail for you.
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On 30.05.2013, Heinz Diehl wrote:
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Forget my previous mail, I read too fast. Sorry!
Fedoraprojects mailserver has problems.
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On 18.05.2013, j.halif...@seznam.cz wrote:
Please advise, how to create a USB Flash memory to
be bootable and contain a full FC18 distribution (~4GB
like on DVD)?
1. isohybrid fedora18.iso
2. cat fedora18.iso /dev/sdX (your USB-stick)
Isohybrid is in the Fedora syslinux package.
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On 09.05.2013, Shelby, James wrote:
I did an upgrade to Fedora 16 and this did not work either.
Apparently there is something new in the Fedora 17 xfs that now allows it to
work.
I guess your problem has nothing to do with Fedora. I've never had
problems with XFS, neither on Fedora 14-18
On 05.05.2013, Martín Marqués wrote:
I have a new Acer Aspire One with Windows 8. The question that came up
was when I realized that it had UEFI instead of BIOS (which I read, is
what we're going to have to deal with from now on).
What precautions should I take with UEFI? Disable the Secure
On 21.04.2013, Alexandre Fernandes wrote:
after re-start the computer I got the message: cannot open font file true.
I'm not quite shure that this message points to the root cause of why your
system won't boot. It's a long standing bug in Fedora, but I have not
seen it to stop a machine from
On 15.04.2013, Paul Erickson wrote:
I have a couple of external disks that I formatted in XFS using F11, I think
for data backup. Now with a new F 18 installation, when I plug
in the drive, the disk icons appear on the desktop, but when I try to access
them, I get an error message stating
On 10.04.2013, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote:
I had not seen that page but scanning through it the most likely candidate
is port 443 which I had seen elsewhere. However I see no simple way of
closing that port in DD-WRT.
As afar as I know, DD-WRT uses iptables. So you can insert a
On 02.04.2013, Jim wrote:
Does anyone have any Ideal what the problem is with Libreoffice ?
See my previous emails in this thread, where I describe the problem
and give a solution.
Btw, this is not only a Fedora problem, it exists on Arch, Ubuntu and
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On 01.04.2013, Jim wrote:
Has anyone had this problem, even tho you change settings to print Landscape
it will only print in Portrait
My Fedora installation prints fine in both modes.
BUT: can it be that you are using Libreoffice? That seems to be a long
standing but, and you have to go to
On 01.04.2013, Heinz Diehl wrote:
That seems to be a long standing but
s/but/bug/;
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On 01.04.2013, Tim wrote:
On Mon, 2013-04-01 at 09:18 +0200, Heinz Diehl wrote:
BUT: can it be that you are using Libreoffice? That seems to be a long
standing but, and you have to go to properties - device in the
printer settings dialog and set the printer language type from PDF
On 30.03.2013, M. Fioretti wrote:
- shouldn't this be done several times, to make sure that whatever was
in the free space really is unrecoverable?
One single write/overwrite operation is sufficient. No need for more.
http://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007%2F978-3-540-89862-7_21
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On 23.03.2013, Jim wrote:
I'm looking to buy a Laser Printer that will work great in Fedora, in the
price range of $200 - $400 price range. any recommendations ?
HP Laserjet Pro 1606dn
We have to of them at work, and they have been working hassle-free and
reliably several years.
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On 03.03.2013, Klearchos-Angelos Gkountras wrote:
how to change the password for thesse partitions
cryptsetup luksAddKey does that.
or I will do that manually one-by-one ?
Yes.
In fact, you can't change a LUKS password directly. First, you have to
add the new password, then you can remove
On 25.02.2013, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote:
And without java, you won't get access to your internet banking here
in Norway..
Wow! I never knew Java was as prevalent as that!
From http://www.bankid.no :
BankID-programvaren er en digitalt signert Java-applet som lastes ned
på din
On 25.02.2013, Jim wrote:
A lot of Federal and State Gov. websites require Java to access their
websites in the U.S.
And without java, you won't get access to your internet banking here
in Norway..
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On 18.02.2013, Reindl Harald wrote:
which misalignment?
Aligment to a 4k blocksize. This is what most of the SSDs and advanced
format HDDs use. Both your partitions have to be aligned to 4k block
boundaries and the filesystem you create on top of them must support
the 4k blocksize.
If you do
On 19.02.2013, Reindl Harald wrote:
i can not remember when the last ext3/ext4
had 512 bytes blocksize
[]
Most of the conventional harddisks have a sectorsize/blocksize of
512/512. All the newer and bigger WD/Seagate drives and SSDs are using
advanced format, which means 512/4096.
To
On 19.02.2013, Reindl Harald wrote:
and why did you strip the part where i showed you that any of my
filesystems of the last 5 years have a 4 KB blocksize as also
any of my hardware of the last 5 years is newer?
Because what you posted doesn't give any information on how your
partitions are
On 17.02.2013, Martín Marqués wrote:
How can I pass my whole system from an old SATA disk (which is giving
me some trouble) to a new disk.
[]
I'm a bit concerned about the root file system, how to change grub,
and if I'll have trouble with non-regular files from /var.
You can do that
On 17.02.2013, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote:
Just curious, will this apply to moving /_everything _/over from a smaller
drive to a bigger one?...likesay from a 320GB SATA HDD to a 500GB
SATA HDD?will the OS automatically be able to identify and recognize the
free space on the new
On 17.02.2013, Reindl Harald wrote:
if wouldn't do this and stick with dd / disk images and use gparted
to resize partitions because if i clone machines i want to have
all UUID's the same
You can easily change/tailor your UUIDs with tools like tune2fs,
xfs_admin etc.. The dd approach has a
On 16.02.2013, Reindl Harald wrote:
..and since 2 years i am buying
SandyBrdige/IvyBdrige and use the on-chip graphcis unit
which is well supported..
The Intel graphics have been subject to really a lot of bugs. Just
google after Hangcheck timer elapsed..
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On 12.02.2013, Reindl Harald wrote:
is it hardcoded in the CPU?
No.
is it measured?
Yes. See init/calibrate.c in your kernel source, it's calculated as
loops per timeslice. As far as I can see, it does no longer serve
any purposes and is eventually kept because of historical reasons.
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On 12.02.2013, Reindl Harald wrote:
-O3 -march=corei7 -mtune=corei7 -mmmx -msse2 -msse3 -msse4.1 -msse4.2 -maes
-fopenmp -mfpmath=sse
You can do that more easily by -march=native.
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On 12.02.2013, Reindl Harald wrote:
2 different virtual machines, same host
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impossible that they have exactly the same loops per
timeslice on a host with 20 guests and that each of
their cores have the same is even more unlikely
It's calculated at boot time, on the same host as you
On 12.02.2013, Reindl Harald wrote:
and since all the guests are sharing the same host CPU
it is unlikely that there are the same values over weeks
if there is something relieable meassured because in this
moment boot time is only for one of them while the others
in full production load
On 10.02.2013, Reindl Harald wrote:
you simply have no opinion because you are lacking the experience most
grown up people have to realize that this time libreoffice and openoffice
are the same application
I suspect you missed my point. I'm aware of that
Libreoffice is a fork from
On 10.02.2013, Gordan Bobic wrote:
Guys, this thread is just turning into trolling. If you don't like
Libre/Open Office and you just have to use MS Office, go use Windows and
quite trolling on a Linux mailing list. Or at the very least take the
whining about the nuances of similarity to a
On 10.02.2013, Aaron Konstam wrote:
The best program for handling academic documents is LaTex. Any Mictosoft
like product can't hold a candle to LaTex for this job. Of course, you
would have to learn a new document producing system. The learning curve
is not easy but once it is learned you
On 10.02.2013, Reindl Harald wrote:
your argumentation is not valid
you do not know what the 1% difference is
you do not know if it affects you in any way
but you are start whining?
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Ok. End of disussion for me.
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On 10.02.2013, Reindl Harald wrote:
said this: whar was exactly your point at all?
if you want stable layouts DO NOT USE OFFICE PACKAGES for
layouts and this is a known fact since at least 10 years
Using an office package and delivering files in its format is
mandatory, as I already
On 10.02.2013, Mateusz Marzantowicz wrote:
Tell them what Linus told to nvidia, it usually works.
Right, giving them a f*ck you will solve the problem immediately,
with no further need of a specific office version (and no need of
further studying either) :-)
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On 09.02.2013, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote:
As long as I will still be able to USE LibreOffice, then I guess I wouldn't
mind the devs inserting another office suite for variety, and choice!
And are you a student who's used Libreoffice/Openoffice a long time,
you would not want to tuck with
On 09.02.2013, Gordan Bobic wrote:
You would chose another distribution over having a choice between two nearly
identical packages? Wow.
I would choose to stay with the package (=Libreoffice) that I'm used
to. If this wouldn't be possible, I would switch. All my templates,
all my documents
On 09.02.2013, Reindl Harald wrote:
most of the people using fedora since years did not
notice any difference except the loading-screen by
the switch to libreoffice
Well, I didn't see this will end up in flames. Otherwise I wouldn't
have participated in this thread. Nevermind. Don't using M$
On 05.02.2013, Reindl Harald wrote:
AND look at https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=887763#c13
util-linux-2.22.2-3.fc18.x86_64 kills output of mount completly
There are more problems with util-linux, at least in Fedora. Here's
another example:
[root@m14 ~]# blockdev --report
RO
On 04.02.2013, Gabriel VLASIU wrote:
chroot: failed to run command '/usr/sbin/prelink': Permission denied
/var/tmp is mounted noexec.
F*ck, you're right! Thanks a lot!
I think the message it's harmless.
Yes, it is.
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Hi,
installing a vanilla kernel and doing a make install after a
successful kernel build, prelink fails with
chroot: failed to run command '/usr/sbin/prelink': Permission denied
I'm installing as root (of course) and SELinux is disabled. I'm
somewhat clueless where to look/how to solve the
On 29.01.2013, Manuel Escudero wrote:
Can Anyone help me with this problem?
https://ask.fedoraproject.org/question/3675/random-kernel-panics-in-fedora-18-since-372-204
Can you try a -stable kernel from kernel.org?
I've run all versions up to latest 3.7.5 and don't have this problem.
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On 23.01.2013, Ashley M. Kirchner wrote:
So perhaps someone here might be able to help. I'm trying to figure out
why a recipe isn't working (when it used to in the past.)
First let procmail write a logfile:
LOGFILE=${HOMEDIR}/procmail.log
And then let it be verbose:
VERBOSE=on
After
On 20.01.2013, Ranjan Maitra wrote:
F18 appears to give two options for installing from scratch: lvm or
btrfs. Which one is better from the point of view of the longer-term.
While btrfs is a filesystem, lvm is not. Therefore, you can't compare
them. See e.g.
On 18.01.2013, Timothy Murphy wrote:
Do most people install Fedora from CDs?
I'm using the DVD version..
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On 14.01.2013, Reindl Harald wrote:
..that doesn't explicitly disable debuginfo generation)...
Setting %_include_minidebuginfo 0 in /etc/rpm/macros or in one of
the architecture related macro-files should do it.
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On 07.01.2013, Gordon Messmer wrote:
Google results for xorg hangs Sandybridge i915 turn up a whole lot of
results (sadly). Among the first page results is one report that a bad BIOS
was responsible for the problem. Have you updated yours?
Switching off the acceleration or switching to SNA
On 03.01.2013, valent.turko...@gmail.com wrote:
Downloaded and compiled 3.7.1 vanilla kernel from kernel.org and used this
awesome tutorial:
http://linuxtweaking.blogspot.com/2011/01/how-to-compile-kernel-from-kernelorg-in.html
You can keep things easy if you're not used to compile your own
On 03.01.2013, valent.turko...@gmail.com wrote:
Now I ended up with 55MB kernel image, that is 10x bigger than fedora
kernels, and 140MB initramfs for 3.7.1 kernel which I don't have space for
on my /boot partition :(
great.
My whole /boot is just around 83M, and it contains at least three
On 03.01.2013, Chris Smart wrote:
If you don't want to/can't install a different card, maybe try disable
i915 driver, kernel based mode-setting and use the vesa driver.
In this case you could try to boot with i915.i915_enable_rc6=0 and
using SNA:
Section Device
Identifier Card0
Driver
On 02.01.2013, valent.turko...@gmail.com wrote:
Shit, frozen again after almost 5 days of uptime. I'm switching to debian
if Fedora 18 kernel turns out to be shit as F16 F17 :(
How about just installing a plain vanilla 3.6.11 or 3.7.1 from
kernel.org?
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On 27.12.2012, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote:
I want to swap it out to a 750GB SATA HDD. How can I do this
when I don't have another laptop with the same exact specs as the Gateway?
- Connect your new HDD to your laptop (e.g. as an external drive).
- Get the new HDD partitioned and formatted
-
On 23.12.2012, Tim wrote:
Though that may be due to it being used on a different computer, with a
different power supply, rather than the OS.
That's quite possible, of course..
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On 22.12.2012, Tom Horsley wrote:
I switched to a different sdcard reader, and suddenly all the
errors went away, so (today, anyway) all the errors seem to
be correlated with the sdcard reader (which will probably
be headed to the recycling pile soon :-).
Sorry to say, but I had such
On 16.12.2012, Kevin Wilson wrote:
make[1]: Entering directory `/root/rpmbuild/BUILD/ppp-2.4.5/chat'
cc -c -DTERMIOS -DSIGTYPE=void
-UNO_SLEEP
-DFNDELAY=O_NDELAY -o chat.o chat.c
cc -pie -o chat chat.o
/bin/ld:
On 16.12.2012, Kevin Wilson wrote:
But wasn't the process of installing the src rpm as I did
was supposed to look for it? isn't the src.rpm is the origin when
preparing rpm in the Fedora project release process ?
Yes, I see your point, and I'm thinking the same.
This raises the question how
On 16.12.2012, Reindl Harald wrote:
* use chkrootkit and rkhunter on any machine
If you really know your installation you could consider aide.
Chkrootkit and rkhunter have produced a lot of false alarms on my
machine...
http://aide.sourceforge.net/
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On 16.12.2012, Reindl Harald wrote:
/etc/rkhunter.conf.local is your friend
you can not expect any intrusion detection working out of
the box for your environment without take care to eliminate
false positives while not step over real intrusions
Here you take for granted that I'm running
On 10.12.2012, Henrik Frisk wrote:
Anyone knows of something I can do to get it a bit more speedy?
Here's what works for me. For deeper explanation, use Google (I'm
sitting with my exams in statistics and have no time for explaining,
sorry!)
1. Buy a fast(er) harddisk
2. Compile a preempt
On 10.12.2012, Alan Cox wrote:
Throw out Gnome 3 and use Xfce as the desktop. That should get you back a
ton of memory and video bandwidth.
I'll second that (using XFCE myself).
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On 10.12.2012, Heinz Diehl wrote:
3. Write this in /etc/rc.config
Don't know how I could write this BS. Here's the correct file:
/etc/rc.d/rc.local
Sorry!
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On 10.12.2012, Phil Dobbin wrote:
As for emacs, I can't comment as I use vim that doesn't suffer from bloat
in the least :-)
I use emacs daily, and it's fast on my machine (F17).
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On 02.12.2012, JD wrote:
But it of course did not understand what I would like to accomplish.
mkdir ~/kernel
git clone git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git
kernel
After that, you have a complete copy of Linus' tree. You can keep it
up to date by doing a
git
On 01.12.2012, Brian West wrote:
ive been able to do this using a live dvd image but not the install
dvd image any thoughts?
ishoybrid install-dvd.iso
cat install-dvd.iso /dev/sdX
(where /dev/sdX is your flashdrive)
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On 27.11.2012, JD wrote:
However, because of the current kswapd, building a kernel is taking an
inordinately long time, so it will be likely 2 or 3 days on my old unicore
Athlon64 3700+ before I can boot the new 3.7X
Now you can checkout the latest Linus git, the fixes for the mm/kswapd
On 29.11.2012, John Wendel wrote:
I think you're seeing something seriously broken if your builds are taking a
huge amount of time.
That's surely an oversimplification. Build speed depends on several
factors, e.g. how many options you have enabled in your .config has
huge impact. You can't
On 27.11.2012, JD wrote:
However, because of the current kswapd, building a kernel is taking an
inordinately long time, so it will be likely 2 or 3 days on my old unicore
Athlon64 3700+ before I can boot the new 3.
https://lkml.org/lkml/2012/11/27/487
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On 11.11.2012, Frantisek Hanzlik wrote:
It this CPU load normal, or can be there done some performance
tunnning for it?
I guess you would be better off posting this to the squid-users
mailinglist..
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On 06.11.2012, Hiisi wrote:
Me seeing this in browser:
This video contains content from UMG. It is not available in your country.
Sorry about that.
This is the same what I'm seeing. Not that I'm a Dire Straits fan,
but...
I'm living in Norway, btw.
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On 01.11.2012, Matthew Miller wrote:
Ubuntu has also shipped a known-broken release just to meet the date. We
don't do that.
Right so!
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On 29.10.2012, valent.turko...@gmail.com wrote:
Because screen goes off I'm starting to think that it could be i915
driver fault maybe? Is anybody else having issues like these and has
i915 driver with Sandybridge gpu?
Is there anything showing up in the logs?
You could compile a kernel with
On 27.10.2012, Matthew Miller wrote:
Neither Fedora nor sysyemd-people really care, so expect to be on your
own.
This isn't true. I'm a Fedora person, and I care very much. And, I know that
I'm one of many.
I know. I was unreflective and wrote this statement as a
generalization, which it
On 27.10.2012, Ian Chapman wrote:
I have a home server which runs F17 and for a long time now it just doesn't
reboot or shutdown cleanly. I've had the same issue since it was running F16
and possibly F15. When the server shuts down, I get spurious messages about
some services failing or a
On 15.10.2012, Reindl Harald wrote:
FIRST:
if list-owners decide to moderate DO IT
it makes NO SENSE to release posts after many days
while a thread has passed many steps
As far as I know, this list isn't moderated..
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