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I would suggest that you post it on Fedora devel list, or, file a report for
a systemd component at bugzilla.redhat.com, in order to make the systemd devs
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bash: /etc/init.d/network: Permission denied
# sh /etc/init.d/network status
Configured devices:
lo
Currently active devices:
lo eth0
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JB,
It indicates that he can do a good job of moderating a list. Think
of it as a job reference.
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you are very easy here to set up (because that's what it is) when you want to
drive away one mostly
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Mr. Pot, may I introduce you to my friend Mr. Kettle?
Well, welcome to the club.
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I think this list should not be moderated at all because as I already said
it
can be easily manipulated into killing it.
IMO that Linda person is killing this list and with the baseless
personal
installation once again with
custom layout.
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On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 22:28:20 PM +, JB wrote:
Reboot to BIOS (F2 key):
- restore Setup Defaults (some F? key), then SAVE and EXIT to restart
I had already tried before my first post everything you wrote up to
this point:
Serial
F10
to cd/dvd drive, so it should be not a problem. Be careful not to interrupt
such an update, also stable AC/DC and battery.
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, but a WINS server should have been queried, instead.
...
Explanation here as well.
http://www.justlinux.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-43676.html
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PRUNEPATHS = /afs /media /net /sfs /tmp /udev /var/cache/ccache /var/spool/cups
/var/spool/squid /var/tmp
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It is a bug, up to and inclusive F16, and I guess F17 too.
...
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On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 1:21 PM, JB jb.1234abcd at gmail.com wrote:
Anything mounted on /media has to be of actual type of that media.
Btw, a CD mounted on /media, even if temporarily, represents a persistent
storage device
Reindl Harald h.reindl at thelounge.net writes:
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On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 1:21 PM, JB jb.1234abcd at gmail.com wrote:
Anything mounted on /media has to be of actual type of that media.
Btw, a CD mounted on /media, even if temporarily, represents a persistent
storage device
for
further processing.
What is the easiest way to do this ?
Thanks
What exactly is the output of 'stat' on a corrupted file (do not edit it) ?
$ stat corrupted_file
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Cinnamon: GNOME Shell Fork With A GNOME2-Like Layout
http://www.webupd8.org/2011/12/cinnamon-gnome-shell-fork-with-gnome2.html
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hope it will attract even more users to
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don't all things work. at gmail.com
I think we should consider outsourcing the Fedora project to our Chinese
friends. They would know what to do ... :-)
http://blogs.reuters.com/photographers-blog/2011/12/12/chinas-deserted-fake-disneyland/
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edit it by adding a job; see examples in crontab(5), e.g.
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5 0 * * * $HOME/cron.daily/tmpwatch
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I'm finding an email blacklist is useful for protecting my sanity.
'Better the devil you know than the devil you don't.
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To make my point clear.
In general, the resuce mode turns all services off for the purpose of preserving
the original troubled environment (machine state) and preventing any worsening
of it until it can be investigated or fixed.
So it seems a rescue
Daniel J Walsh dwalsh at redhat.com writes:
On 12/07/2011 03:14 AM, JB wrote:
JB jb.1234abcd at gmail.com writes:
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To make my point clear.
In general, the resuce mode turns all services off for the purpose
of preserving the original troubled environment (machine state
polluted by IT players, marketing, companies you work
for, your peers.
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latest F16 kernel and see what happens.
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$ cat /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/*-eth0
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Hope this will jump start you.
There is plenty of official RH/Fedora docs and info on the Internet.
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Why fight if you can start fresh ? In this upgrade path it is preferable.
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state as described above, it may not even finish its job, and so I am stuck
and unable to fix the system, now and possibly on next attempt as well).
Do you see a problem here ?
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Joe Zeff joe at zeff.us writes:
On 12/06/2011 12:39 PM, JB wrote:
I think you should download and burn F16 live-cd (XFCE I guess is safest for
you) and start with a clean install.
Why? Wouldn't it be even better to create a kickstart file so that all
of my installed programs come
Joe Zeff joe at zeff.us writes:
On 12/06/2011 03:15 PM, JB wrote:
That's why I suggested a clean start.
Yes, I understand all of that, at least as well as you do. (Hint: I
started using computers in 1968, and Linux in 1998.) You still haven't
even tried to address the one question I
stuck, altering system state to be
rescued (investigated or fixed).
...
Yes, your other remarks regarding selinux are valid.
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critique so far in this thread (after mine) -
it almost matches The Linus view of GNOME 3.2 ...
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friend), features that enhance (evolve) what is
already there, embrace stability as a goal.
Avanti !
But I am actually not here ...
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On boot, this time stop as above once again and change that kernel boot option
to:
systemd.unit=multi-user.target
which should bring you to non-GUI login.
After that your system should be yours (debug/investigate it if needed).
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Craig White craigwhite at azapple.com writes:
On Fri, 2011-11-25 at 06:34 +, JB wrote:
You are largely irrelevant, somewhat absurd and probably best ignored -
sorry, I tried.
...
But you are not sure ...
did I seem to equivocate somewhere? I don't think so
as it was the only app active at the time, but with
average number of tabs (less than 10), one youtube, etc.
No proof of what's causing it as well - random occurrence, no dumps, no
error messages in a log.
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and package them if approved.
He made one substitution that I know of in a recent release so he is open to
that provided all other things are OK.
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Craig White craigwhite at azapple.com writes:
On Thu, 2011-11-24 at 22:25 +, JB wrote:
The above mentioned stats (see other thread) reflect that; that they show
almost half of Fedora sites migrated to other distros/OSs is not so
surprsising considering its test system OS state
After RH and Fedora statistics, some more results:
http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/fedora-16.html
The purpose of a distro project is to deliver a product (not to maintain a test
system OS), with implied quality, and for a user.
It is time to blink.
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David dgboles at gmail.com writes:
On 11/23/2011 4:57 AM, JB wrote:
After RH and Fedora statistics, some more results:
http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/fedora-16.html
The purpose of a distro project is to deliver a product (not to maintain
a test system OS), with implied
, America/Phoenix, America/Boise,
America/Indiana/Indianapolis, America/Indiana/Marengo,
America/Indiana/Vincennes, America/Indiana/Tell_City,
America/Indiana/Petersburg and several others.
...
Well, all I can say is we live in interesting times :-)
Liberum veto !
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On 11/23/2011 03:57 AM, JB wrote:
The purpose of a distro project is to deliver a product (not to maintain
a test system OS), with implied quality, and for a user.
It is time to blink.
JB
And here I though different
Marko Vojinovic vvmarko at gmail.com writes:
On Wednesday 23 November 2011 09:57:35 JB wrote:
After RH and Fedora statistics, some more results:
http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/fedora-16.html
Oh, come on JB, do you really think quoting that guy makes any sense?
...
That's
discussions except Fedora lists ...
...
I offended him? Really? I offered him a simple solution to his problem
and he insulted me. And I left the thread with a pleasant goodbye.
Same here for you. Have a great evening. And enjoy your Trolling.
Take it easy fella ... :-)
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My political axes to grind are with those like the user that started
this thread who calls himself JB. It was a waste of bandwidth. This is
supposed to be a *help* list for those that have a problem or a question
and not a *chat* list for those
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For the moment... peace? I am sorry if I took you for someone else.
Please forward my impersonator's email then.
Peace as well :-)
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There is an opinion piece on Ubuntu and Unity, but could be on GNOME as well.
http://www.h-online.com/open/features/HealthCheck-Ubuntu-The-search-for-unity-1377292.html
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Thomas Cameron thomas.cameron at camerontech.com writes:
On 11/13/2011 01:15 AM, JB wrote:
Hi,
every Fedora release is going downhill ...
Erm, no. Each Fedora release has brought in numerous technical
improvements. Virtualization, clustering, directory services, more and
more
), eliminating
pressures from that side by making life miserable for more formidable than RH
companies and IBM competitors, itself concentrating on lucrative
mid-to-high-end (mostly mainframe once again, please) side.
So, back to the future for IBM ... :-)
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- yes, but more reasonable in its choice of projects and
features
- more stable due to above and by delivering when ready
- attracting more devs, also converts from other distros who are often looking
for home but are turned off by RH total control
- fill in your own
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Bruno Wolff III bruno at wolff.to writes:
On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 12:45:34 +,
JB jb.1234abcd at gmail.com wrote:
Some from an independent Fedora devs, others from other distros by
adoption of
those that are useful and not conflicting with its goals.
That is unlikely to happen
Thomas Cameron thomas.cameron at camerontech.com writes:
On 11/13/2011 11:16 AM, JB wrote:
? supergiantpotato at yahoo.co.jp writes:
...
The IT market is massively overweight,
overvalued and engages in enormously wasteful development practices
right now. Open source
Rahul Sundaram metherid at gmail.com writes:
On 11/14/2011 01:04 AM, JB wrote:
Perhaps no fork would be required.
Even if it is required, it is a lot of work and I am not sure anyone
with just a opinion would be willing to sign up for it.
RH could release tight control of Fedora
Rahul Sundaram metherid at gmail.com writes:
On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 3:58 AM, JB jb.1234abcd at gmail.com wrote:
With regard to composition of governing bodies, it is not that Fedora would
start from scratch.
Let's try again. You reply doesn't seem to show any understanding
Zoo to split up ‘gay’ Canadian penguins.
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it, learn how to download it.
Yum makes it easy, the executable is yumdownloader.
http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/red-hat-fedora-linux/20689-donwload-kernel-source-using-yum.html
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available, therefore no module exists.
-T.C.
That's true, but you spoiled his searching/learning process. And mine too :-)
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On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 10:53 AM, JB jb.1234abcd at gmail.com wrote:
T.C. Hollingsworth tchollingsworth at gmail.com writes:
On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 8:05 AM, Michael D. Berger m.d.berger at
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wrote:
On my new F15_64
Fernando Cassia fcassia at gmail.com writes:
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Perhaps you could make your statement in the upcoming Fedora Project Board and
FESCo elections
Nobody forces you to use BTRFS, or IBM JFS or XFS for that matter. But I´d
like
about those atractive features (some ZFS-like) the users would like to
have, e.g.:
- checksumming
- roll back
- snapshots
- pools
Is it possible to implement them on ext4 ?
Perhaps writing off ext4 in favor of btrfs in context of new features
development is premature ?
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Frode fropeter at online.no writes:
Will there still be an option to install the new grub 2 in the os
partition instead of the disk boot partition?
Frode Petersen
I have done just that with F16 RCx live-cd to hd installation, so it is final.
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as well).
Also:
- System-Preferences-Power Management
- man hdparm
# hdparm -I /dev/sd?
...
- $ yum info hddtemp
- Gogle search: linux hard disk temperature
http://www.linuxjournal.com/magazine/monitoring-hard-disks-smart
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there are apps that may act incorrectly, either with noatime or
relatime.
Possible examples: procmail, mutt, mailx, perhaps few more known and unknown
yet (incl. sysadmin commands).
So, it is your call.
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very non standards compliant, turn to relatime and its not standards compliant
but nobody will break (which is good)
...
I assume he was talking POSIX ? Standards (file systems) test suites ?
Btw, is that comment still valid, and also for ext4 ?
Is braking standards good ? :-)
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Complete!
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not be in it in the first place.
It has been discussed on the list at time of F13 and rejected by users.
I have reported it to PackageKit devs a year ago.
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=641311
Result ?
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machine):
$ w
$ ps aux |grep -i pts
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$ ps -eLf |grep -i pts
$ ps axms |grep -i pts
$ man ps # signals: PENDING or BLOCKED or IGNORED or CAUGHT
$ man select
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Marek Piatek marek.piatek at kaust.edu.sa writes:
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What other things should I consider before upgrading from Fedora 11 to Fedora
15 or 16? Thanks!
It is said that where there are two Fedora users there are (at least) three
favorite Fedora choices :-)
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and DE with low resources usage and tailored for desktops
- Fedora having systemd parallel boot and DE tailored for small and simple
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(request and echo).
They could test the target_ip from their net too.
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with some git
projects inside.
any help is welcome.
Search Google: /etc/gitweb.conf /etc/httpd/conf.d/git.conf
e.g.
How To: Install and Configure GitWeb
http://gofedora.com/how-to-install-configure-gitweb/
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in-place (/data/...) execution of
time tar -xf ...
you first untared your files into non-NFS dir
mkdir -p /tmp/untared
cd /tmp/untared
tar -xf /tmp/jpgraph-3.5.0b1.tar
and then executed
'time cp /tmp/untared/* /data/tmp/'
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mount the exported dir locally.
That is, you would mostly test the NFS software only.
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Terry Barnaby terry1 at beam.ltd.uk writes:
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Anyway a test with local nfs:
time tar -xf /tmp/jpgraph-3.5.0b1.tar
real3m27.320s
...
Do it for both, NFS v3 and v4. It may provide an additional regression case.
Filing BZ report will get you some answer from an NFS dev.
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the from e-mail address
with them (you have to check you mail; ignoring responses will burn you), even
lose it due to a temporary storage space limit.
So, consider it.
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because you
have selinux turned on.
Words of wisdom ... Same here :-)
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it and press Apply
again, nmap finds it open and all is well.However, if I then reboot,
the port is again closed ! One seems to need to repeat the unselect-Apply/
select-Apply procedure to get it working again.Is it just me or do others
have the same problem ?
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Otherwise, if you do not like and are not capable of understanding user's
needs, there is no hope for you.
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Tom Horsley horsley1953 at gmail.com writes:
On Sat, 17 Sep 2011 21:08:32 + (UTC)
JB wrote:
People who come up with such idea and design and write a DE like GNOME 3
for
users across the entire market market spectrum deserve to be put in
a straitjacket and kept on Prozac ad
who is the owner (application) of that password window.
I can not remember it now, but it was inquired on Fedora users or testers list
some time ago regarding how to do it.
Search for it.
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For reference: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ERAXJj142o
This is their idea of an interaction between devs and users ...
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YumEx update run aborted.
Dependency Resolution Errors:
Package: createrepo-0.9.9-4.fc15.noarch (updates)
Requires: yum = 3.2.29-8
Installed: yum-3.2.29-7.fc15.noarch (@updates)
yum = 3.2.29-7.fc15
Available: yum-3.2.29-4.fc15.noarch (fedora)
yum = 3.2.29-4.fc15
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or less openly).
Linux Windows (Fedora, Red Hat, ...) ?!
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