With Great Power comes great responsibility (Spiderman movie)
I wonder whether the current generation of Redhatters knows the power that
they wield.
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> On Wed, Feb 2, 2022 at 8:25 PM Michael D. Setzer II via users
> wrote:
> >
> > Have the Fedora version of LibreOffice working just fine.
> > Also, have the LibreOffice 7.2.5 working just fine.
> > Dow
ve same issue, or
> others have it work?
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Same here in RHEL 8.5.
Seems to be a LibreOffice bug.
odt files open, ods files crash.
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> On 2021-07-03 8:02 p.m., dwoody5...@gmail.com wrote:
> > the url I am trying to download does not have an extension ie. no '.htm'
> > such
> > as:
> > https://my.acbl.org/club-results/details/338288
> >
> > wget does not download the correct
least bs=1M.
A hack that works sometimes
$ renice -n -18 -p $(pgrep usb-storage)
$ renice -n -18 -p $(pgrep dd)
$ ionice -c 2 -n 2 -p $(pgrep usb-storage)
$ ionice -c 2 -n 2 -p $(pgrep dd)
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h supports SFTP, you will never see this warning.
> (You can force use of the SFTP protocol, if available, with -sftp - see
> section 5.2.2.6.)
>
>
> --
> George N. White III
>
>
> rsync is not installed by default in minimal installs of many OS.
For example, we have to scp t
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>
>
> Telegram?
>
> https://telegram.org/
>
> You will get it from the RPM Fusion Free Updates repo for Fedora.
>
> thanks
>
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In my case, I installed Teleg
t from the RPM Fusion Free Updates repo for Fedora.
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Terry Polzin 于2020年7月23日 周四上午1:34写道：
> I've been dealing with this issue on a couple of my Fedora 32 machines.
> It appears that the upgrade of icedtea-web
> from icedtea-web-1.8.2-3.fc31.x86_64 to
> icedtea-web-2.0.0-pre.0.3.alpha13.patched1.fc32.x86_64 breaks the
> alternatives link to
On Mon, 2020-07-06 at 07:37 -0500, Richard Shaw wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 5, 2020 at 2:01 PM Robin Lee
> wrote:
> > I'm trying to do a very simple task on my Fedora 32 desktop but
> > somehow
> > I can't make it happen.
> >
> > I've downloaded a Windows i
On Sun, 2020-07-05 at 15:15 -0700, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
>
> Ha! I finally get to answer one instead of always asking
> all the questions.
>
> :-)
>
>
> Install WoeUSB (as root):
Thanks Todd, with WoeUSB everything just worked.
Cheers
Robin
On Sun, 2020-07-05 at 12:51 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote:
> On 7/5/20 12:48 PM, Robin Lee wrote:
> > On Sun, 2020-07-05 at 12:21 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote:
> > > On 7/5/20 12:01 PM, Robin Lee wrote:
> > > > I've downloaded a Windows installer ISO-file from microsoft.
On Sun, 2020-07-05 at 12:21 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote:
> On 7/5/20 12:01 PM, Robin Lee wrote:
> > I've downloaded a Windows installer ISO-file from microsoft.com
> > that I
> > put on a USB-stick and tried to install Windows on physical
> > machine,
> > but it won
I'm trying to do a very simple task on my Fedora 32 desktop but somehow
I can't make it happen.
I've downloaded a Windows installer ISO-file from microsoft.com that I
put on a USB-stick and tried to install Windows on physical machine,
but it won't boot from the USB. It shows up in the BIOS boot
On Tue, 2020-05-19 at 11:33 +0200, Mayavimmer wrote:
> Robin Lee wrote:
>
> > Thanks for letting me know I'm not the only one.
> >
> > Also been launching VLC from a terminal lately and sometimes it
> > also
> > doesn't terminate cleanly that way. I close th
Hi,
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/firewalld_default_to_nftables
mentions a
docker-firewalld
where can I find that package or source code?
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On Mon, 2020-05-18 at 18:20 +0800, Ian Chapman wrote:
> Hi,
>
>
> > The thing is that sometimes when I close vlc after I've watched
> > some
> > video it doesn't terminate cleanly. That is there is still a vlc
> > process running in the background and it prevents the screen saver
> > from
> >
On Sat, 2020-05-16 at 05:54 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
> On 2020-05-15 20:02, Robin Lee wrote:
> > Hi
> >
> > I'm on Fedora 32, but this problem I have had for a while.
> >
> > The thing is that sometimes when I close vlc after I've watched
> > some
On Fri, 2020-05-15 at 08:25 -0700, stan via users wrote:
> On Fri, 15 May 2020 14:02:17 +0200
> Robin Lee wrote:
>
> > The thing is that sometimes when I close vlc after I've watched
> > some
> > video it doesn't terminate cleanly. That is there is stil
Hi
I'm on Fedora 32, but this problem I have had for a while.
The thing is that sometimes when I close vlc after I've watched some
video it doesn't terminate cleanly. That is there is still a vlc
process running in the background and it prevents the screen saver from
blanking the screen. So
On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 6:21 PM Patrick O'Callaghan
wrote:
> On Wed, 2020-05-13 at 08:26 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote:
> > On Wed, 13 May 2020 13:07:32 +0100
> > Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> >
> > > BTW, Google say that Duo will support multi-user on desktops in the
> > > near future.
> >
> > And
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On Wed, 2020-04-22 at 21:17 -0400, Fred Smith wrote:
>
> I don't know how the OP installed the Brother drivers, but there are
> two ways: one is detailed with lots of tweaks you need to make, and
> the other is relatively trivial.
>
> You can either:
> 1. download the individual driver files and
On Wed, 2020-04-22 at 09:49 -0500, Roger Heflin wrote:
> I would comment out the SYSFS lines and see if that fixes
> anything. I
> would also remove the executable bit {chmod -x filename).
>
> It seems they have put both SYSFS (used in RHEL5, so really old) and
> ATTRS (new name RHEL6(say f12)
Hi list
I recently got a Brother scanner/printer for my Fedora 31 desktop. I've
installed all the drivers from Brother and the printing part works
fine, but not scanning.
When I launch simple-scan, either as root or normal user it can't find
any scanner. Although it will show up in Settings ->
s
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Hi,
We have used https://hangouts.google.com/ for 5 people.
Use Chrome and install the app from URL bar.
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> >Hi,
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Hi,
Can we get the contact of the group maintaining.
https://releases.ansible.com/ansible/rpm/release/
?
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Downgrading to kernel 4.14.x from kernel.org fixed the freezing issue when
I was not using
gt; https://askubuntu.com/questions/1188683/gnome-keyring-daemon-spams-system-journal
>
>
>
> > On Dec 4, 2019, at 11:45 AM, Robin Lee
> > wrote:
> >
> > > asked to register item
> > > /org/freedesktop/secrets/
On Tue, 2019-12-03 at 10:37 +0100, Robin Lee wrote:
> Hi
>
> On my newly upgraded Fedora 31 desktop there is annoying issue. Every
> second gnome-keyring-daemon logs the following message
> "asked to register item /org/freedesktop/secrets/collection/login/86,
> but
Hi
On my newly upgraded Fedora 31 desktop there is annoying issue. Every
second gnome-keyring-daemon logs the following message
"asked to register item /org/freedesktop/secrets/collection/login/86,
but it's already registered". Rebooting doesn't help.
It totally fills up the log, anything I can
On Mon, 2019-12-02 at 05:55 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
> On 2019-12-01 20:57, Robin Lee wrote:
> > Ok, but will the Electrum wallet still be able to communicate with
> > my
> > Ledger device?
>
> I can't be certain. But I think it will.
>
Thanks for advices. I d
On Sun, 2019-12-01 at 20:32 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
> On 2019-12-01 19:41, Robin Lee wrote:
> > I've got a Fedora 29 desktop that I thought it was time to upgrade.
> > But
> > there was a problem. When I ran
> > dnf system-upgrade download --refresh --releasever=30
&
Hi
I've got a Fedora 29 desktop that I thought it was time to upgrade. But
there was a problem. When I ran
dnf system-upgrade download --refresh --releasever=30
I get the following error
Problem: package python2-btchip-0.1.28-1.fc29.noarch requires python2-
hidapi, but none of the providers
On Tue, 2019-09-17 at 22:44 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
> On 9/17/19 9:10 PM, Robin Lee wrote:
> > But, what about the error message I pointed out earlier
> > TypeError: argument of type 'NoneType' is not iterable
>
> The part of error you quoted earlier was
>
>
On Tue, 2019-09-17 at 21:03 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
> On 9/17/19 8:52 PM, Robin Lee wrote:
> > On Tue, 2019-09-17 at 20:45 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
> > > On 9/17/19 8:21 PM, Robin Lee wrote:
> > > > Thanks for the help. I did run "journalctl -b -1&
On Tue, 2019-09-17 at 20:45 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
> On 9/17/19 8:21 PM, Robin Lee wrote:
> > Thanks for the help. I did run "journalctl -b -1" after a failed
> > try to
> > use Gnome Software to update to latest software packages. And it
> > seems
> >
On Mon, 2019-09-16 at 13:10 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote:
> If that didn't work, then run "journalctl --list-boots" and find the
> one for the right time. Then run "journalctl -b -1" (again replace
> with the right number).
Thanks for the help. I did run "journalctl -b -1" after a failed try to
use
On Sun, 2019-09-15 at 10:51 +0200, Robin Lee wrote:
> I'm running Fedora 29 and some time ago the Gnome Software Updater
> stopped working.
>
> It informs me that there are new updates available and I press the
> Download button. After a while the button changes to Restart and
&
Hi
I'm running Fedora 29 and some time ago the Gnome Software Updater
stopped working.
It informs me that there are new updates available and I press the
Download button. After a while the button changes to Restart and Update
and I press it, so the computer reboots and after that it briefly
On Thu, 2019-07-25 at 08:48 -0400, John Mellor wrote:
> Replies inline:
>
> On Thu, 2019-07-25 at 09:35 +0200, Robin Lee wrote:
> > Hi
> >
> > I wonder if just for me that Evolution crashes most of the time I
> > try
> > to close it?
>
> Nope
Hi
I wonder if just for me that Evolution crashes most of the time I try
to close it?
I usually start Evolution right away after logging in and then have it
running until it is time to apply software updates. I usually do that
twice a week. More than half of time closing Evolution crashes the
On Sun, 2019-06-09 at 18:52 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
> On 6/9/19 6:32 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
> > On 6/9/19 4:14 PM, Robin Lee wrote:
> > > On Fri, 2019-06-07 at 19:28 +0200, Robin Lee wrote:
> > > > I have a laptop with Fedora 30 and on it I use VPN. Now after I
> &
On Fri, 2019-06-07 at 19:28 +0200, Robin Lee wrote:
> I have a laptop with Fedora 30 and on it I use VPN. Now after I
> upgraded from Fedora 29 I've got the problem that Gnome applications
> like Evolution and Gnome Software don't work anymore because they
> think the computer is offl
Hi
I have a laptop with Fedora 30 and on it I use VPN. Now after I
upgraded from Fedora 29 I've got the problem that Gnome applications
like Evolution and Gnome Software don't work anymore because they think
the computer is offline when VPN is activated. Also the wifi icon in
the upper right hand
I just upgraded one of my computers from Fedora 29 to 30 and after that
grub doesn't work any more as it should. Now when I boot up I get
briefly the following message
Booting from Hard Disk...
.
error: ../../grub-core/kern/misc.c:465:unrecognized number.
then it boots the default kernel. I was
On Mon, 2019-03-25 at 17:23 -0700, Richard England wrote:
> On 3/25/19 1:22 AM, Robin Lee wrote:
>
>
>
>
> >
> > On Mon, 2019-03-25 at 15:07 +0700, Frederic Muller wrote:
> >
> > > On 3/25/1
On Mon, 2019-03-25 at 15:07 +0700, Frederic Muller wrote:
> On 3/25/19 3:03 PM, Robin Lee wrote:
>
>
>
> > So I just updated my Fedora 29 desktop and now the title bar
> > in Firefoxis gone. How is one to minimize a Firefox window
> > nowadays
So I just updated my Fedora 29 desktop and now the title bar in Firefox
is gone. How is one to minimize a Firefox window nowadays? How can I
make Firefox behave like all the other Gnome app windows?
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> On 2/24/19 1:10 PM, Robin Lee wrote:
> > On Sun, 2019-02-17 at 17:31 +0100, Robin Lee wrote:
> > > On Fri, 2019-02-15 at 15:48 -0500, John Harris wrote:
> > > > The only way that I personally know how to
On Sun, 2019-02-17 at 17:31 +0100, Robin Lee wrote:
> On Fri, 2019-02-15 at 15:48 -0500, John Harris wrote:
> > The only way that I personally know how to do with is by setting a
> > system wide
> > proxy. If you could find the process GNOME uses to sync CalDAV and
> &
On Fri, 2019-02-15 at 15:48 -0500, John Harris wrote:
> The only way that I personally know how to do with is by setting a
> system wide
> proxy. If you could find the process GNOME uses to sync CalDAV and
> CardDAV,
> you could `torify` it. There is no built-in way to do this in GNOME,
> at
On Fri, 2019-02-15 at 08:55 -0500, John Harris wrote:
> On Friday, February 15, 2019 4:13:19 AM EST Robin Lee wrote:
> > On Thu, 2019-02-14 at 20:59 -0800, Samuel Sieb wrote:
> >
> > > On 2/14/19 11:12 AM, Robin Lee wrote:
> > >
> > > > I wonder if
On Thu, 2019-02-14 at 20:59 -0800, Samuel Sieb wrote:
> On 2/14/19 11:12 AM, Robin Lee wrote:
> > I wonder if there's away to configure a Nextcloud account in Online
> > Accounts or otherwise that would connect to a Nextcloud server that
> > resides on a tor hidden servic
Hi
I wonder if there's away to configure a Nextcloud account in Online
Accounts or otherwise that would connect to a Nextcloud server that
resides on a tor hidden service, i.e. it would need to connect to an
onion address.
Cheers
Robin
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On Fri, 2019-01-04 at 11:29 +0100, Jakub Jelen wrote:
> Do you have some josm plugins installed?
Thank you. That was it. My desktop josm had more than a dozen plugins
that had aggregated over the years. I threw them out and reinstalled
the ones I knew I wanted. After that my desktop josm was as
Hi
I have a desktop and a laptop, both with fully updated Fedora 29. The
laptop is a fresh installation while the desktop has been upgraded from
previous versions of Fedora. And I have Josm installed on both.
Now the problem is that on the desktop Josm has become really slow. You
need some
Hi
I've got a fully updated Fedora 28 with electron-cash-3.3.1-
1.fc28.noarch and a Trezor One hardware wallet. The problem is that I
just realized that I can't sign bitcoin cash transactions from my
Trezor. What I get when I try to sign is:
'NoneType' object has no attribute '_fill_missing'
On Fri, May 4, 2018 at 12:08 AM, Todd Zullinger <t...@pobox.com> wrote:
> Robin Lee wrote:
>> On Thu, May 3, 2018 at 12:03 PM, Todd Zullinger <t...@pobox.com> wrote:
>>> Robin Lee wrote:
>>>> I recently upgrade my host from f26 to f28. But to keep co
On Thu, May 3, 2018 at 12:03 PM, Todd Zullinger <t...@pobox.com> wrote:
> Robin Lee wrote:
>> I recently upgrade my host from f26 to f28. But to keep compatible
>> with old behavior,
>> I am figuring out a way to revert the change 'Separate Subpackage and
>> Source
Hi,
I recently upgrade my host from f26 to f28. But to keep compatible
with old behavior,
I am figuring out a way to revert the change 'Separate Subpackage and
Source Debuginfo'[1].
That means let rpm not generate debugsource and subpackage debuginfo.
Simply adding '%_debugsource_packages 0' to
:
On 05/29/2015 12:09 PM, Lee wrote:
Try mounting the device manually in a terminal.
On May 29, 2015 8:20 AM, Ronal B Morse r...@morsehouse.com wrote:
No problem with my Android phone- Mounts and seen by ADB.
Where might I start? I would RTFM if I knew which FM to R ;-)
I use Calibre
Try mounting the device manually in a terminal.
On May 29, 2015 8:20 AM, Ronal B Morse r...@morsehouse.com wrote:
On 05/29/2015 09:12 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
On Fri, 2015-05-29 at 10:54 -0400, David Cary Hart wrote:
This is probably basic stuff. It's just been a very long time since
Really? I thought it required silverlight.
On Oct 11, 2014 4:58 AM, Neal Becker ndbeck...@gmail.com wrote:
I see with fedora20 + current chrome stable, netflix now works! And,
even works
well with my chromecast.
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Only on linux?
On Oct 11, 2014 11:13 AM, Rahul Sundaram methe...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi
On Sat, Oct 11, 2014 at 11:52 AM, Lee wrote:
Really? I thought it required silverlight?
Silverlight is one option however it is not supported in many platforms
including Android and Linux and Chrome OS
g gel...@bellsouth.net writes:
On 07/14/2014 07:15 PM, lee wrote:
Then I should have received a notification that my messages are being
delayed indefinitely.
I have neither been offtopic, not did I break the conduct, if you go by
what it says. So yes, it obviously means that anyone
Kevin Fenzi ke...@scrye.com writes:
On Sun, 13 Jul 2014 00:55:51 +0200
lee l...@yun.yagibdah.de wrote:
Hi,
how long do the moderators intend to delay my messages?
If you are referring to the ones in the 'why do we use systemd?' thread
then I suspect it's forever, as that thread
Hi,
how long do the moderators intend to delay my messages?
It seems that the code of conduct the moderators are referring to
actually means that everyone who disagrees will be silenced. If that is
so, just say so.
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Ian Malone ibmal...@gmail.com writes:
On 10 July 2014 09:49, lee l...@yun.yagibdah.de wrote:
Ian Malone ibmal...@gmail.com writes:
On 10 July 2014 01:10, lee l...@yun.yagibdah.de wrote:
You trust computers too much.
No, I'm pragmatic in what can be trusted. If key components of your
Rahul Sundaram methe...@gmail.com writes:
Hi
On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 7:08 PM, lee wrote:
That is irrelevant.
How?
Because disabled means disabled and not something like ondemand.
I don't know what you don't understand ---
disabled means disabled, i. e. cannot be started
Rahul Sundaram methe...@gmail.com writes:
Hi
On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 7:42 PM, lee wrote:
I made a bug report suggesting to fix their misunderstanding of what
disabled means. It would have been very easy to fix, but they
declined.
Why should I make any further bug reports about systemd
Ian Malone ibmal...@gmail.com writes:
On 10 July 2014 01:10, lee l...@yun.yagibdah.de wrote:
You trust computers too much.
No, I'm pragmatic in what can be trusted. If key components of your
system are compromised then what are you protecting and what are you
protecting from? Misdirected
Rahul Sundaram methe...@gmail.com writes:
Hi
On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 9:23 PM, lee wrote:
Then they should do it again.
That is a Debian maintainers decision.
That doesn't mean that they shouldn't do it again.
That doesn't mean that users shouldn't get to vote.
It just means voting
Matthew Miller mat...@fedoraproject.org writes:
The Fedora Project Board is exploring the question “What is success for
Fedora?”, brought to the board-discuss mailing list by Board member
Josh Boyer. This is a public mailing list for all Fedora community
members, and we welcome your
David Benfell benf...@parts-unknown.org writes:
lee writes:
I don't mind this idea. Yet when I disable something, I expect it to be
disabled.
This is another terminology issue, which I think should be viewed
separately from the merits/demerits of systemd itself. And I'm
inclined to agree
Rahul Sundaram methe...@gmail.com writes:
This is not random Debian maintainers. This is the Debian technical
committee empowered with making such decisions. A GR (General resolution)
is the only way to override the tech committee and that requires some
Debian maintainer to propose one and
Hi,
what is an ll header?
I'm trying to figure out why I have martian sources and got so far as to
think that they are not created on my side. Yet the ll header might
contain some useful information if I knew exactly how to interpret that
information.
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David Benfell benf...@parts-unknown.org writes:
I guess the two questions I'm reaching for are:
1) Is systemd conceptually broken, just a really bad idea from the
start? Some people say yes, and some of them argue well.
So far, I've seen only arguments that would support that systemd is a
Joe Zeff j...@zeff.us writes:
On 07/08/2014 11:40 PM, lee wrote:
When something is disguised or hidden, it is not disabled. It is
camouflaged or concealed. Camouflage, concealment, hiding, disguise and
masking can all be used for*preventing* from being disabled.
No. When a service
Ed Greshko ed.gres...@greshko.com writes:
On 07/09/14 19:41, lee wrote:
what is an ll header?
I'm trying to figure out why I have martian sources and got so far as to
think that they are not created on my side. Yet the ll header might
contain some useful information if I knew exactly how
Adrian Sevcenco adrian.sevce...@cern.ch writes:
These are completely unrelated terms. in services start language
enabled means start at boot and disabled do not start at boot ..
and that's all ..
If you want to see it this way, then systemd misunderstands things so
that disabled means to
Ian Malone ibmal...@gmail.com writes:
On 8 July 2014 22:33, lee l...@yun.yagibdah.de wrote:
Ian Malone ibmal...@gmail.com writes:
By expecting users to mount attached devices with full-fat mount usage
you open the potential for exploits.
How would that happen? A file system is either
Rahul Sundaram methe...@gmail.com writes:
Hi
On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 3:03 AM, lee wrote:
Apparently the project secretary has a hand in it, and sponsors are
needed. So maybe it's not as easy as it seems.
It is fairly easy to bring any proposal to vote. Debian has done it
numerous
Ed Greshko ed.gres...@greshko.com writes:
On 07/09/14 22:57, lee wrote:
Ed Greshko ed.gres...@greshko.com writes:
On 07/09/14 19:41, lee wrote:
what is an ll header?
I'm trying to figure out why I have martian sources and got so far as to
think that they are not created on my side. Yet
Mickey binary...@comcast.net writes:
F20 / KDE
Trying to run acroread in AdbeRdr9.5.5-1_i486linux_enu.rpm and it
won't start.
I have run Strace on acroread and listed the last few lines of the Output,
To be curious, doesn't that violate the license it comes with?
Could someone tell me
R. G. Newbury newb...@mandamus.org writes:
So 'masked' is actually NEVER NOT EVEN WHEN YOU WANT IT. and DISABLED
means SOMETIMES,
They confuse masked with disabled and disabled with ondemand and
deny to fix that.
This thread contains numerous instances of why systemd is not well
Rahul Sundaram methe...@gmail.com writes:
Hi
On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 7:19 AM, lee wrote:
The bug --- or call it misstatement if you like --- is with systemd in
that things can still be started even when they are disabled.
Err. no. Before systemd, the equivalent of mask simply didn't
Rahul Sundaram methe...@gmail.com writes:
If there are concrete criticisms, they should ideally be in the form
of bug reports to reach the developers directly.
I made a bug report suggesting to fix their misunderstanding of what
disabled means. It would have been very easy to fix, but they
Ian Malone ibmal...@gmail.com writes:
By expecting users to mount attached devices with full-fat mount usage
you open the potential for exploits.
How would that happen? A file system is either mounted or not, or is
it?
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David Benfell benf...@parts-unknown.org writes:
https://wiki.debian.org/systemd
systemd was included in Debian wheezy as a technology preview
However, it appears that even though they have taken their vote, and
chosen systemd, they have not yet developed service files for all
their
Joe Zeff j...@zeff.us writes:
computer, it's configured more for convenience than security. Each
person's needs are different, and this is just another example where
*nix lets people do things their own way instead of insisting that
there's One True Way.
Choices are good to have.
Joe Zeff j...@zeff.us writes:
In systemd, a service that's disabled won't be directly started at
boot, but another service can still start it either at boot or later.
That means that the service is *not* disabled.
To keep a service from being started by systemd under any
circumstances, you
David Benfell benf...@parts-unknown.org writes:
lee writes:
And only seven votes? Are they serious?
I didn't realize they'd only gotten seven votes (presumably of the
maintainers who advocate systemd). I do understand that quorum rules
need to be loose enough to allow anything at all
Patrick O'Callaghan pocallag...@gmail.com writes:
On Sun, 2014-07-06 at 13:01 -0700, David Benfell wrote:
*What*, for example, is the usual meaning of file system objects?
A
file? Why not just say file? And if the documentation really means
files
or pipes or devices, then why not say
Glenn Holmer shad...@lyonlabs.org writes:
But when someone replies to that by saying that systemd is broken
because a shepherd is not a sheep, well... that's just splitting
grammatical hairs to try and prove that the documentation is obtuse.
Then you haven't thought far enough. The
Russell Miller duskg...@gmail.com writes:
On Jul 6, 2014, at 5:33 PM, David Benfell benf...@parts-unknown.org wrote:
Rolf Turner writes:
The difference is that Olav is polite and you are abusive.
If you regard what I say as abusive, then you should, perhaps, be
challenging this entire
Sam Varshavchik mr...@courier-mta.com writes:
David Benfell writes:
Systemd needs to be a vast improvement to justify this. And it seems
that not everyone even agrees that it's an improvement at all.
Here's something that I can't figure out: with this entire thread in
mind, why is all of
Bill Oliver ven...@billoblog.com writes:
On Sun, 6 Jul 2014, David Benfell wrote:
So in your view, I have no right to object to his behavior but you have a
right to object to my objection?
Something ain't right there.
Some things are above criticism. It's important that you know your
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