Re: Bluetooth woes (again)

2015-10-30 Thread birger
One thing i have seen a few times with wireless keyboards/mice is that if you have both as wireless the placement of the dongle can become important. Try placing the dongle where you minimize interference between the devices. This usually affects the keyboard when the mouse is directly between

Re: Bluetooth woes (again)

2015-10-30 Thread Tim
Allegedly, on or about 30 October 2015, Rick Stevens sent: > Oh, thank heavens! Another fellow former Amiga user! I thought Joanne > Dow and I were the only ones left! Still got a collection. We have a few A1200s that still get used for live titling (ScalaMM) on standard-def multicamera

Re: Bluetooth woes (again)

2015-10-30 Thread Rick Stevens
On 10/30/2015 05:14 PM, Tim wrote: Tim: I don't have any personal need for a wireless keyboard, I nearly always type at the same location, with a desktop computer: You have a collection of hardware that's always going to be there (computer, monitor, speakers, etc.), anyway. Rick Stevens: Me

Re: Bluetooth woes (again)

2015-10-30 Thread Tim
Tim: >> I don't have any personal need for a wireless keyboard, I nearly >> always type at the same location, with a desktop computer: You have >> a collection of hardware that's always going to be there (computer, >> monitor, speakers, etc.), anyway. Rick Stevens: > Me too, but I often find my

Re: Bluetooth woes (again)

2015-10-30 Thread Rick Stevens
On 10/29/2015 09:30 PM, Doug wrote: On 10/29/2015 11:03 PM, Tim wrote: Allegedly, on or about 29 October 2015, Rick Stevens sent: I've been using my Logitech kb/mouse combo for, hmmm, three years. I've had to replace the batteries on them innumerable times (2xAA for the kb, 2xAA for the

Re: Bluetooth woes (again)

2015-10-29 Thread Rick Stevens
On 10/29/2015 02:24 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On 29 October 2015 at 04:09, Tim > wrote: Allegedly, on or about 26 October 2015, Patrick O'Callaghan sent: > The headphones don't even have a physical port. I

Re: Bluetooth woes (again)

2015-10-29 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On 29 October 2015 at 10:15, Tim wrote: > > Tim: > >> Now you've got a working replacement, you could try being brutal to > >> the bad one. Bang it a few times, hard, see if the thing suddenly > >> starts working again. You often see that with soldering faults.

Re: Bluetooth woes (again)

2015-10-29 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On 29 October 2015 at 04:09, Tim wrote: > Allegedly, on or about 26 October 2015, Patrick O'Callaghan sent: > > The headphones don't even have a physical port. > > I hate that kind of thing. Headphones are just such a basic technology, > but to encumber that with

Re: Bluetooth woes (again)

2015-10-29 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On 29 October 2015 at 04:13, Tim wrote: > Patrick O'Callaghan sent: > >> As I said, the mouse works on another system. I should also mention > >> that the mouse light is on, i.e. it does have power. > > If it wasn't too late to bother, I would have asked whether it

Re: Bluetooth woes (again)

2015-10-29 Thread Tim
Allegedly, on or about 30 October 2015, Doug sent: > Have you considered a trackball? There are some with scroll > capability, but I just have a ball and two buttons--Kensington > optical trackball. The low end ones that I use are around $25, > sometimes a bit less. Since the appliance doesn't

Re: Bluetooth woes (again)

2015-10-29 Thread Tim
Allegedly, on or about 29 October 2015, Rick Stevens sent: > I've been using my Logitech kb/mouse combo for, hmmm, three years. > I've had to replace the batteries on them innumerable times (2xAA for > the kb, 2xAA for the mouse) but they get used heavily 12 hours a day. That was one of my

Re: Bluetooth woes (again)

2015-10-29 Thread Doug
On 10/29/2015 11:03 PM, Tim wrote: Allegedly, on or about 29 October 2015, Rick Stevens sent: I've been using my Logitech kb/mouse combo for, hmmm, three years. I've had to replace the batteries on them innumerable times (2xAA for the kb, 2xAA for the mouse) but they get used heavily 12 hours

Re: Bluetooth woes (again)

2015-10-28 Thread Tim
Allegedly, on or about 26 October 2015, Patrick O'Callaghan sent: > The headphones don't even have a physical port. I hate that kind of thing. Headphones are just such a basic technology, but to encumber that with networking protocols, and require batteries... I had a wireless keyboard for a

Re: Bluetooth woes (again)

2015-10-28 Thread Tim
Patrick O'Callaghan sent: >> As I said, the mouse works on another system. I should also mention >> that the mouse light is on, i.e. it does have power. If it wasn't too late to bother, I would have asked whether it stayed lit continually, or you only saw a light some of the time. >> I'm leaning

Re: Bluetooth woes (again)

2015-10-26 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2015-10-26 at 10:16 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > > I've reported it to Bugzilla: > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1275122 > > > > BTW, this is the dongle: > http://plugable.com/products/usb-bt4le#drivers > > > > poc > > > > May become marked as a duplicate of >

Re: Bluetooth woes (again)

2015-10-26 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2015-10-25 at 23:23 -0400, Jon LaBadie wrote: > On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 11:50:40PM +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > On Sun, 2015-10-25 at 14:05 -0600, jd1008 wrote: > > > > > > On 10/25/2015 01:57 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > > > On Sun, 2015-10-25 at 12:08 -0600, jd1008 wrote:

Re: Bluetooth woes (again)

2015-10-26 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2015-10-26 at 12:01 +1030, Tim wrote: > Allegedly, on or about 25 October 2015, Patrick O'Callaghan sent: > > The mouse has adequate battery and power cycling makes no > difference. > > Could try the old remote control repair trick - grind the battery > around > on the battery terminal,

Re: Bluetooth woes (again)

2015-10-26 Thread Greg Woods
On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 11:50 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > I just wonder why my logs show repeated problems > loading the driver (going back months) but nevertheless the old dongle > seemed to work until now. > If you have a USB dongle, then the devices using that

Re: Bluetooth woes (again)

2015-10-26 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2015-10-26 at 14:33 -0600, Greg Woods wrote: > On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 2:27 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan < > pocallag...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > Then why do my BT devices (mouse, headphones, an external speaker > > system) show up under the BT settings dialogue? > > > > Maybe those devices

Re: Bluetooth woes (again)

2015-10-26 Thread Greg Woods
On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 2:27 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > Then why do my BT devices (mouse, headphones, an external speaker > system) show up under the BT settings dialogue? > Maybe those devices can work with or without the dongle? Or maybe these devices are somehow

Re: Bluetooth woes (again)

2015-10-26 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2015-10-26 at 13:50 -0600, Greg Woods wrote: > On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 11:50 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan < > pocallag...@gmail.com > > wrote: > > > I just wonder why my logs show repeated problems > > loading the driver (going back months) but nevertheless the old > > dongle > > seemed to

Re: Bluetooth woes (again)

2015-10-26 Thread Rick Stevens
On 10/26/2015 12:50 PM, Greg Woods wrote: On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 11:50 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan > wrote: I just wonder why my logs show repeated problems loading the driver (going back months) but nevertheless the old dongle

Re: Bluetooth woes (again)

2015-10-26 Thread Rick Stevens
On 10/26/2015 01:33 PM, Greg Woods wrote: On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 2:27 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan > wrote: Then why do my BT devices (mouse, headphones, an external speaker system) show up under the BT settings dialogue? Maybe those

Re: Bluetooth woes (again)

2015-10-26 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2015-10-26 at 14:01 -0700, Rick Stevens wrote: > On 10/26/2015 01:33 PM, Greg Woods wrote: > > > > On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 2:27 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan > > > wrote: > > > > Then why do my BT devices (mouse, headphones, an external

Re: Bluetooth woes (again)

2015-10-26 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2015-10-26 at 20:12 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > > On 10/26/2015 07:15 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > On Mon, 2015-10-26 at 10:16 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > > > > I've reported it to Bugzilla: > > > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1275122 > > > > > > > > BTW, this is the

Re: Bluetooth woes (again)

2015-10-26 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2015-10-26 at 05:12 -0700, Joseph Loo wrote: > On 10/26/2015 04:26 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > On Sun, 2015-10-25 at 23:23 -0400, Jon LaBadie wrote: > > > On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 11:50:40PM +, Patrick O'Callaghan > > > wrote: > > > > On Sun, 2015-10-25 at 14:05 -0600, jd1008

Re: Bluetooth woes (again)

2015-10-26 Thread Ed Greshko
On 10/26/2015 07:15 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Mon, 2015-10-26 at 10:16 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: >>> I've reported it to Bugzilla: >>> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1275122 >>> >>> BTW, this is the dongle: >> http://plugable.com/products/usb-bt4le#drivers >>> poc >>> >>

Re: Bluetooth woes (again)

2015-10-26 Thread Joseph Loo
On 10/26/2015 04:26 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Sun, 2015-10-25 at 23:23 -0400, Jon LaBadie wrote: >> On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 11:50:40PM +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: >>> On Sun, 2015-10-25 at 14:05 -0600, jd1008 wrote: On 10/25/2015 01:57 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: >

Re: Bluetooth woes (again)

2015-10-26 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2015-10-26 at 11:14 +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Mon, 2015-10-26 at 12:01 +1030, Tim wrote: > > Allegedly, on or about 25 October 2015, Patrick O'Callaghan sent: > > > The mouse has adequate battery and power cycling makes no > > difference. > > > > Could try the old remote

Re: Bluetooth woes (again)

2015-10-25 Thread jd1008
On 10/25/2015 05:50 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Sun, 2015-10-25 at 14:05 -0600, jd1008 wrote: On 10/25/2015 01:57 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Sun, 2015-10-25 at 12:08 -0600, jd1008 wrote: Had a similar problem. I changed the batteries with brand new one (Super Alkaline) and it

Re: Bluetooth woes (again)

2015-10-25 Thread Joseph Loo
On 10/25/2015 05:38 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Sun, 2015-10-25 at 18:11 -0600, jd1008 wrote: >> >> On 10/25/2015 05:50 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: >>> On Sun, 2015-10-25 at 14:05 -0600, jd1008 wrote: On 10/25/2015 01:57 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Sun, 2015-10-25 at

Re: Bluetooth woes (again)

2015-10-25 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2015-10-25 at 18:11 -0600, jd1008 wrote: > > On 10/25/2015 05:50 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > On Sun, 2015-10-25 at 14:05 -0600, jd1008 wrote: > > > On 10/25/2015 01:57 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > > > On Sun, 2015-10-25 at 12:08 -0600, jd1008 wrote: > > > > > Had a similar

Re: Bluetooth woes (again)

2015-10-25 Thread Ed Greshko
On 10/26/2015 08:38 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: >> > To repeat: there is no password. This is a mouse. Not all BT devices > use keys and I have never been asked for a password (key) for this > device. I've even unconfigured the device and re-installed it. It still > didn't ask for a key. I've

Re: Bluetooth woes (again)

2015-10-25 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2015-10-25 at 14:05 -0600, jd1008 wrote: > > On 10/25/2015 01:57 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > On Sun, 2015-10-25 at 12:08 -0600, jd1008 wrote: > > > Had a similar problem. I changed the batteries with brand new one > > > (Super Alkaline) and it worked. > > New battery made no

Re: Bluetooth woes (again)

2015-10-25 Thread Tim
Allegedly, on or about 25 October 2015, Patrick O'Callaghan sent: > The mouse has adequate battery and power cycling makes no difference. Could try the old remote control repair trick - grind the battery around on the battery terminal, scrape off any oxidisation. If it's not the type that can

Re: Bluetooth woes (again)

2015-10-25 Thread Jon LaBadie
On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 11:50:40PM +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Sun, 2015-10-25 at 14:05 -0600, jd1008 wrote: > > > > On 10/25/2015 01:57 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > > On Sun, 2015-10-25 at 12:08 -0600, jd1008 wrote: > > > > Had a similar problem. I changed the batteries with

Bluetooth woes (again)

2015-10-25 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
Once again my BT mouse is acting up and I have no idea why. I've been using it with no problems for months, through successive updates to the kernel, and it has Just Worked. Then suddenly it doesn't. The configuration dialogues (on both Gnome and KDE) see the mouse and give its Mac address, show

Re: Bluetooth woes (again)

2015-10-25 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2015-10-25 at 18:04 +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > Once again my BT mouse is acting up and I have no idea why. I've been > using it with no problems for months, through successive updates to > the > kernel, and it has Just Worked. Then suddenly it doesn't. The > configuration

Re: Bluetooth woes (again)

2015-10-25 Thread jd1008
On 10/25/2015 12:04 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: Once again my BT mouse is acting up and I have no idea why. I've been using it with no problems for months, through successive updates to the kernel, and it has Just Worked. Then suddenly it doesn't. The configuration dialogues (on both Gnome

Re: Bluetooth woes (again)

2015-10-25 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2015-10-25 at 12:08 -0600, jd1008 wrote: > Had a similar problem. I changed the batteries with brand new one > (Super Alkaline) and it worked. New battery made no difference. poc -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options:

Re: Bluetooth woes (again)

2015-10-25 Thread jd1008
On 10/25/2015 01:57 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Sun, 2015-10-25 at 12:08 -0600, jd1008 wrote: Had a similar problem. I changed the batteries with brand new one (Super Alkaline) and it worked. New battery made no difference. poc Have trie re-authenticatinig the password? Usually 4