Re: Fedora vs CentOS -- php/apache and Drupal 7

2013-04-20 Thread Craig White
On Sun, 2013-04-21 at 09:51 +1000, Roger wrote: > On 04/21/2013 05:01 AM, Craig White wrote: > >> There you have it. Complex and puzzling. > > > > problem #1 seems like it would occur on any server that is bound by > > memory limits insufficient for the application and extensions you are > > u

Re: Fedora vs CentOS -- php/apache and Drupal 7

2013-04-20 Thread Roger
On 04/21/2013 05:01 AM, Craig White wrote: There you have it. Complex and puzzling. problem #1 seems like it would occur on any server that is bound by memory limits insufficient for the application and extensions you are using. If your cloud server doesn't have enough memory, buy more memo

Re: Fedora vs CentOS -- php/apache and Drupal 7

2013-04-20 Thread Bill Davidsen
James Hogarth wrote: > > > The top program may shed some light, I don't think of anything off-hand which measures disk performance on a per-process basis. > > There is actually an iotop that does this ;-) True, although I was thinking more of something like the output of iostat, with dat

Re: Fedora vs CentOS -- php/apache and Drupal 7

2013-04-20 Thread Craig White
On Sat, 2013-04-20 at 12:40 +1000, Roger wrote: > On 04/20/2013 07:37 AM, Jared K. Smith wrote: > > > On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 3:41 AM, Roger wrote: > > It made me start thinking about Fedora vs CentOS because of > > the problems I'm experiencing with Drupal 7 and php/Apache > >

Re: Fedora vs CentOS -- php/apache and Drupal 7

2013-04-19 Thread Roger
On 04/20/2013 07:37 AM, Jared K. Smith wrote: On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 3:41 AM, Roger > wrote: It made me start thinking about Fedora vs CentOS because of the problems I'm experiencing with Drupal 7 and php/Apache in Fedora 18 so here goes. It might be hel

Re: Fedora vs CentOS -- php/apache and Drupal 7

2013-04-19 Thread Louis Lagendijk
On Fri, 2013-04-19 at 16:29 -0500, g wrote: > On 04/19/2013 04:18 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: > <> > > unless you are the moderator for this list, stop trying acting like one. > > reply with what ever you like, because i will not see any more of your post. > > so again, KAFBA. > > -- Sorry, but t

Re: Fedora vs CentOS -- php/apache and Drupal 7

2013-04-19 Thread Jared K. Smith
On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 3:41 AM, Roger wrote: > It made me start thinking about Fedora vs CentOS because of the problems > I'm experiencing with Drupal 7 and php/Apache in Fedora 18 so here goes. > It might be helpful to tell us what problems you're encountering with PHP, Apache, and Drupal 7 un

Re: Fedora vs CentOS -- php/apache and Drupal 7

2013-04-19 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 19.04.2013 23:29, schrieb g: > > On 04/19/2013 04:18 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: > <> > > unless you are the moderator for this list, stop trying acting like one. i do not be a moderator to qualify FUD as what it is > reply with what ever you like, because i will not see any more of your post.

Re: Fedora vs CentOS -- php/apache and Drupal 7

2013-04-19 Thread g
On 04/19/2013 04:18 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: <> unless you are the moderator for this list, stop trying acting like one. reply with what ever you like, because i will not see any more of your post. so again, KAFBA. -- in a world with out fences, who needs gates. tc. hago. g . -- users mai

Re: Fedora vs CentOS -- php/apache and Drupal 7

2013-04-19 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 19.04.2013 23:14, schrieb g: > On 04/19/2013 04:07 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: > <<>> > > KAFBA if you have nothing more to say after someone shows that you are only spread unqialified FUD do your self a favour and be quiet signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- users mailin

Re: Fedora vs CentOS -- php/apache and Drupal 7

2013-04-19 Thread g
On 04/19/2013 04:07 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: <<>> KAFBA -- in a world with out fences, who needs gates. tc. hago. g . -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://

Re: Fedora vs CentOS -- php/apache and Drupal 7

2013-04-19 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 19.04.2013 22:52, schrieb g: > On 04/16/2013 10:10 PM, Roger wrote: >> >>> so drop centos and run fedora and/or scientific linux. you may well >>> find that scientific linux is very close to current fedora, with the >>> exception of some new !whiz! !bang! software. >>> >>> >> This is just ab

Re: Fedora vs CentOS -- php/apache and Drupal 7

2013-04-19 Thread g
hello roger. On 04/16/2013 10:10 PM, Roger wrote: so drop centos and run fedora and/or scientific linux. you may well find that scientific linux is very close to current fedora, with the exception of some new !whiz! !bang! software. This is just about where I am at now. CentOs is getting t

Re: Fedora vs CentOS -- php/apache and Drupal 7

2013-04-17 Thread James Hogarth
> > > The top program may shed some light, I don't think of anything off-hand which measures disk performance on a per-process basis. > > There is actually an iotop that does this ;-) -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.

Re: Fedora vs CentOS -- php/apache and Drupal 7

2013-04-17 Thread Bill Davidsen
Roger wrote: This is a call for understanding because of lack of knowledge. Apologies for the mix of issues in one message but they all relate to the same problem. Firstly, I've been reading the pro's and con's of RHEL and Fedora and am none the wiser. It seems to be around cost of service and la

Re: Fedora vs CentOS -- php/apache and Drupal 7

2013-04-16 Thread g
On 04/16/2013 10:01 PM, Craig White wrote: On Tue, 2013-04-16 at 21:48 -0500, g wrote: so drop centos and run fedora and/or scientific linux. you may well find that scientific linux is very close to current fedora, with the exception of some new !whiz! !bang! software. highly uninformed

Re: Fedora vs CentOS -- php/apache and Drupal 7

2013-04-16 Thread Roger
so drop centos and run fedora and/or scientific linux. you may well find that scientific linux is very close to current fedora, with the exception of some new !whiz! !bang! software. This is just about where I am at now. CentOs is getting too hard to contend with and I believe I'll have to d

Re: Fedora vs CentOS -- php/apache and Drupal 7

2013-04-16 Thread Craig White
On Tue, 2013-04-16 at 21:48 -0500, g wrote: > > so drop centos and run fedora and/or scientific linux. you may well > find that scientific linux is very close to current fedora, with the > exception of some new !whiz! !bang! software. highly uninformed opinion. If you don't know the differe

Re: Fedora vs CentOS -- php/apache and Drupal 7

2013-04-16 Thread Craig White
On Tue, 2013-04-16 at 17:41 +1000, Roger wrote: > I believe that the latest Apache updates of some time ago were flawed or > do not correctly interact with php or php updates were flawed and have > not been corrected. I have nothing to back up this assertion other than > the problems now being

Re: Fedora vs CentOS -- php/apache and Drupal 7

2013-04-16 Thread Craig White
On Wed, 2013-04-17 at 11:44 +1000, Roger wrote: > Thank you to all for the very helpful info. > I have CentOS-6.4-x86_64-minimal.iso downloaded. > My laptop on which I'll do the first install does not have a > functioning dvd drive so it has to be usb install. > I installed Fedora 18 on it this wa

Re: Fedora vs CentOS -- php/apache and Drupal 7

2013-04-16 Thread g
On 04/16/2013 08:44 PM, Roger wrote: <> Thank you to all for the very helpful info. I have CentOS-6.4-x86_64-minimal.iso downloaded. why are you wanting to use centos? My laptop on which I'll do the first install does not have a functioning dvd drive so it has to be usb install. which is

Re: Fedora vs CentOS -- php/apache and Drupal 7

2013-04-16 Thread Roger
It made me start thinking about Fedora vs CentOS because of the problems I'm experiencing with Drupal 7 and php/Apache in Fedora 18 so here goes. Hey Roger, Comparing the two is like comparing apples and oranges. The two are not the same thing. Fedora is a development system with a sho

Re: Fedora vs CentOS -- php/apache and Drupal 7

2013-04-16 Thread Mark LaPierre
On 04/16/2013 03:41 AM, Roger wrote: This is a call for understanding because of lack of knowledge. Apologies for the mix of issues in one message but they all relate to the same problem. Firstly, I've been reading the pro's and con's of RHEL and Fedora and am none the wiser. It seems to be aroun

Re: Fedora vs CentOS -- php/apache and Drupal 7

2013-04-16 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 04/16/2013 09:41 AM, Roger wrote: So what does CentOS 6.n desktop, yum update actually update or does it leave all the apps like cinnamon desktop, skype, gimp, apache, php, libreoffice, python, pulseaudio, gnome, Firefox or chrome as they are first installed, circa Fedora 14ish? Mostly the la

Re: Fedora vs CentOS -- php/apache and Drupal 7

2013-04-16 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 16.04.2013 09:41, schrieb Roger: > I believe that the latest Apache updates of some time ago were flawed or do > not correctly interact with php or php > updates were flawed and have not been corrected. I have nothing to back up > this assertion other than the problems > now being experienc

Fedora vs CentOS -- php/apache and Drupal 7

2013-04-16 Thread Roger
This is a call for understanding because of lack of knowledge. Apologies for the mix of issues in one message but they all relate to the same problem. Firstly, I've been reading the pro's and con's of RHEL and Fedora and am none the wiser. It seems to be around cost of service and lack or avail