Re: Hourly Error Message of Unknown Provenance

2020-06-08 Thread R. G. Newbury
On Mon, 08 Jun 2020 16:02:02 -0400 "Garry T. Williams" wrote On Monday, June 8, 2020 12:41:03 PM EDT R. G. Newbury wrote: On 2020-06-07 4:46 p.m., From: Samuel Sieb wrote: On 6/7/20 10:31 AM, R. G. Newbury wrote: It was apparently something to do with selinux. I usually disable selinux as

Re: Hourly Error Message of Unknown Provenance

2020-06-08 Thread R. G. Newbury
On 2020-06-08 2:42 p.m.>Samuel Sieb wrote> On 6/8/20 9:41 AM, R. G. Newbury wrote:>> On 2020-06-07 4:46 p.m., From: Samuel Sieb wrote:>>> On 6/7/20 10:31 AM, R. G. Newbury wrote: Oddly 1) I was running as root... so*who/what*  was the 'unauthorized sender'? and>>> That sounds like a

e: Hourly Error ,> Message of Unknown Provenance

2020-06-08 Thread R. G. Newbury
On 2020-06-08 2:42 p.m.,Jonathan Billings wrote On Mon, Jun 08, 2020 at 12:41:03PM -0400, R. G. Newbury wrote: Wow! So running as root causes error messages? Pull the other leg, it has bells on it! And why? Because this was immediately after a clean install to a brand new drive, while I was

Re: Hourly Error Message of Unknown Provenance

2020-06-08 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 6/8/20 4:14 PM, Doug McGarrett wrote: if it would work in a modern environment.) OpenSUSE's KDE provides Dolphin PLUS a separate app that looks and works like Dolphin, but has root access after you supply a password. I expect it's just a different desktop file that launches Dolphin using

Re: Hourly Error Message of Unknown Provenance

2020-06-08 Thread Tim via users
On Mon, 2020-06-08 at 11:40 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote: > Many years ago I used to always login as root because it was > "easier". But then I realized it was unnecessary, somewhat > hazardous, and tended to cause weird issues if I wasn't careful or > even if I was. When I first explored Linux, I

Re: Hourly Error Message of Unknown Provenance

2020-06-08 Thread stan via users
On Mon, 8 Jun 2020 19:14:52 -0400 Doug McGarrett wrote: > Now to the question for you: CERT seems to mean Community Emergency > Response Team. Is this what you mean, or am I (probably) > missing something? https://www.us-cert.gov/ ___ users mailing

Re: Hourly Error Message of Unknown Provenance

2020-06-08 Thread Doug McGarrett
On 6/8/20 6:55 PM, jdow wrote: The latest one is a java based exploit that hits both Linux and Windows. It was announced within the past week. CERT is a good place to go looking for exploits. Running as root for system maintenance makes sense. Running as root routinely day after day is

Re: Hourly Error Message of Unknown Provenance

2020-06-08 Thread jdow
The latest one is a java based exploit that hits both Linux and Windows. It was announced within the past week. CERT is a good place to go looking for exploits. Running as root for system maintenance makes sense. Running as root routinely day after day is asking for problems. Perhaps the worst

Re: Hourly Error Message of Unknown Provenance

2020-06-08 Thread George N. White III
On Mon, 8 Jun 2020 at 15:00, Doug H. wrote: > On Mon, Jun 8, 2020, at 10:54 AM, Tom Horsley wrote: > > I keep asking for people to point me to the huge list > > of exploits that certainly must exist given all the > > horrors expressed about running as root. > > No one has ever been able to tell

Re: Hourly Error Message of Unknown Provenance

2020-06-08 Thread Garry T. Williams
On Monday, June 8, 2020 12:41:03 PM EDT R. G. Newbury wrote: > On 2020-06-07 4:46 p.m., From: Samuel Sieb wrote: > >On 6/7/20 10:31 AM, R. G. Newbury wrote: > >> It was apparently something to do with selinux. I usually disable > >> selinux as the first or second thing I do to a new install. I >

Re: Hourly Error Message of Unknown Provenance

2020-06-08 Thread Jonathan Billings
On Mon, Jun 08, 2020 at 01:54:21PM -0400, Tom Horsley wrote: > > I keep asking for people to point me to the huge list > of exploits that certainly must exist given all the > horrors expressed about running as root. > > No one has ever been able to tell me where to find it. Running a graphical

Re: Hourly Error Message of Unknown Provenance

2020-06-08 Thread Joe Zeff
On 06/08/2020 12:51 PM, Bob Goodwin wrote: I often have a window open using "su" is that less desirable than using sudo?   Bob Same here. I never put myself in wheel because I always know the root password and don't need sudo. I can't say that I always have a terminal open as root, but I

Re: Hourly Error Message of Unknown Provenance

2020-06-08 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 6/8/20 11:51 AM, Bob Goodwin wrote: On 2020-06-08 14:40, Samuel Sieb wrote: But then I realized it was unnecessary, somewhat hazardous, and tended to cause weird issues if I wasn't careful or even if I was.  "sudo -i" is easy and convenient.  I always have several terminal windows open

Re: Hourly Error Message of Unknown Provenance

2020-06-08 Thread Bob Goodwin
On 2020-06-08 14:40, Samuel Sieb wrote: But then I realized it was unnecessary, somewhat hazardous, and tended to cause weird issues if I wasn't careful or even if I was.  "sudo -i" is easy and convenient.  I always have several terminal windows open with that running for the various root

Re: Hourly Error Message of Unknown Provenance

2020-06-08 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 6/8/20 9:41 AM, R. G. Newbury wrote: On 2020-06-07 4:46 p.m., From: Samuel Sieb wrote: On 6/7/20 10:31 AM, R. G. Newbury wrote: Oddly 1) I was running as root... so*who/what*  was the 'unauthorized sender'? and That sounds like a likely cause right there.  Why are you doing that? Wow!

Re: Hourly Error Message of Unknown Provenance

2020-06-08 Thread Joe Zeff
On 06/08/2020 11:54 AM, Tom Horsley wrote: I keep asking for people to point me to the huge list of exploits that certainly must exist given all the horrors expressed about running as root. No one has ever been able to tell me where to find it. This is because the problem with running as root

Re: Hourly Error Message of Unknown Provenance

2020-06-08 Thread Doug H.
On Mon, Jun 8, 2020, at 10:54 AM, Tom Horsley wrote: > I keep asking for people to point me to the huge list > of exploits that certainly must exist given all the > horrors expressed about running as root. > > No one has ever been able to tell me where to find it. Don't know about expolits, but

Re: Hourly Error Message of Unknown Provenance

2020-06-08 Thread Tom Horsley
I keep asking for people to point me to the huge list of exploits that certainly must exist given all the horrors expressed about running as root. No one has ever been able to tell me where to find it. ___ users mailing list --

Re: Hourly Error Message of Unknown Provenance

2020-06-08 Thread Jonathan Billings
On Mon, Jun 08, 2020 at 12:41:03PM -0400, R. G. Newbury wrote: > Wow! So running as root causes error messages? Pull the other leg, it has > bells on it! > > And why? Because this was immediately after a clean install to a brand new > drive, while I was still running upgrades and transferring

Re: Hourly Error Message of Unknown Provenance

2020-06-08 Thread R. G. Newbury
On 2020-06-07 4:46 p.m., From: Samuel Sieb wrote: On 6/7/20 10:31 AM, R. G. Newbury wrote: It was apparently something to do with selinux. I usually disable selinux as the first or second thing I do to a new install. I forgot to do that. That should never be necessary. Well obviously, it

Re: Hourly Error Message of Unknown Provenance

2020-06-08 Thread Tim via users
On Sun, 2020-06-07 at 12:51 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote: > That sounds like a likely cause right there. Why are you doing that? Doctor, doctor, it hurts when I do this. Then stop doing that. But I want to. Then you'll have to learn put up with the pain. -- uname -rsvp Linux

Re: Hourly Error Message of Unknown Provenance

2020-06-07 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 6/7/20 10:31 AM, R. G. Newbury wrote: It was apparently something to do with selinux. I usually disable selinux as the first or second thing I do to a new install. I forgot to do that. That should never be necessary. A quick edit to /etc/selinux/config and a reboot solved removed the

Re: Hourly Error Message of Unknown Provenance

2020-06-07 Thread R. G. Newbury
On Sat, 6 Jun 2020 10:30:04 -0600 Jerry James wrote On Fri, Jun 5, 2020 at 9:54 PM R. G. Newbury wrote: > Brand new Fedora 32 KDE spin installation. Seems to work nicely, except: > > I have an error notification popping up, every hour, in the bottom right > corner of the screen: > > Plasma

Re: Hourly Error Message of Unknown Provenance

2020-06-06 Thread Jerry James
On Fri, Jun 5, 2020 at 9:54 PM R. G. Newbury wrote: > Brand new Fedora 32 KDE spin installation. Seems to work nicely, except: > > I have an error notification popping up, every hour, in the bottom right > corner of the screen: > > Plasma Desktop Workspace (and the minutes since the message was

Hourly Error Message of Unknown Provenance

2020-06-05 Thread R. G. Newbury
Hi all, Brand new Fedora 32 KDE spin installation. Seems to work nicely, except: I have an error notification popping up, every hour, in the bottom right corner of the screen: Plasma Desktop Workspace (and the minutes since the message was posted, or the time, hourly of a previous message)