Re: Moblin is dead, Fedora on netbooks?

2010-02-18 Thread Paul W. Frields
On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 10:03:29PM +, BeartoothHbsk wrote: On Tue, 16 Feb 2010 09:12:01 +0100, birger wrote: [] That said, I prefer running Fedora on my netbooks. I actually think there is no problem at all running a full gnome on a netbook. I usually remove the panels and

Re: Moblin is dead, Fedora on netbooks?

2010-02-17 Thread BeartoothHbsk
On Tue, 16 Feb 2010 09:12:01 +0100, birger wrote: [] That said, I prefer running Fedora on my netbooks. I actually think there is no problem at all running a full gnome on a netbook. I usually remove the panels and install cairo-dock. I also make a few gui tweaks that I am used to

Re: Moblin is dead, Fedora on netbooks?

2010-02-17 Thread birger
On Wed, 2010-02-17 at 22:03 +, BeartoothHbsk wrote: I also prefer Fedora -- and currently have Omega Linux running of an EeePC 701, which is about the smallest and slowest of netbooks. Omega seems to me to be very effectively Fedora For Netbooks -- and that makes me wonder, after

Re: Moblin is dead, Fedora on netbooks?

2010-02-16 Thread birger
On Mon, 2010-02-15 at 18:39 -0800, jack craig wrote: Hi Folks, I regret to report that Moblin, my hope for a mobile linux, is dead. As someone alse already pointed out, Moblin is not dead. What is happening is that Moblin (intel-based) and Maemo (Arm-based) are merging to create MeeGo.

Re: Moblin is dead, Fedora on netbooks?

2010-02-16 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Tuesday 16 February 2010 04:52:10 Don Quixote de la Mancha wrote: On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 8:44 PM, Itamar Reis Peixoto in brazil the energy cost's alot of money, and arm don't wast energy, I am very happy with my Lord Sheeva running Fedora also reduced alot my eletric bill! Funny

Re: Moblin is dead, Fedora on netbooks?

2010-02-16 Thread Ed Greshko
Marko Vojinovic wrote: On Tuesday 16 February 2010 04:52:10 Don Quixote de la Mancha wrote: On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 8:44 PM, Itamar Reis Peixoto in brazil the energy cost's alot of money, and arm don't wast energy, I am very happy with my Lord Sheeva running Fedora also reduced

Re: Moblin is dead, Fedora on netbooks?

2010-02-16 Thread Alan Cox
(1) Curious about why you say Moblin is dead? I missed the announcement! (2) I'm writing this on a EeePC 1000HA (1GB, 160GB - but I'm using less than 20G) running F12 very nicely. Moblin and Maemo are merging to produce one project using the best bits of each to produce a single distro

Re: Moblin is dead, Fedora on netbooks?

2010-02-16 Thread Tim
On Tue, 2010-02-16 at 01:38 -0600, Michael Cronenworth wrote: It's obvious you didn't even read my link. Please read my link. Bzzt, WRONG! Some other guy's comparison between two PCs that he has, bears no relation to a comparison of two PCs that I have. -- [...@localhost ~]$ uname -r

[slightly OT] rpm Vs deb [Was: Re: Moblin is dead, Fedora on netbooks?]

2010-02-16 Thread steve
Hi, On 02/16/2010 02:58 PM, Alan Cox wrote: (1) Curious about why you say Moblin is dead? I missed the announcement! (2) I'm writing this on a EeePC 1000HA (1GB, 160GB - but I'm using less than 20G) running F12 very nicely. Moblin and Maemo are merging to produce one project using the

Re: Moblin is dead, Fedora on netbooks?

2010-02-16 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2010-02-15 at 18:39 -0800, jack craig wrote: Hi Folks, I regret to report that Moblin, my hope for a mobile linux, is dead. What's your source for this? My hw is Asus, EeePC 1000, 1GB ram, 40GB disk. Anyone running FC (11 maybe?) on hw like this? Running F12 on an EEEPC 1000

Re: [slightly OT] rpm Vs deb [Was: Re: Moblin is dead, Fedora on netbooks?]

2010-02-16 Thread inode0
On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 5:08 AM, steve st...@lonetwin.net wrote: Hi, On 02/16/2010 02:58 PM, Alan Cox wrote:  (1) Curious about why you say Moblin is dead? I missed the announcement!  (2) I'm writing this on a EeePC 1000HA (1GB, 160GB - but I'm using less  than 20G) running F12 very nicely.

Re: Moblin is dead, Fedora on netbooks?

2010-02-16 Thread jack craig
On 02/15/2010 07:31 PM, Chris Tyler wrote: On Mon, 2010-02-15 at 18:39 -0800, jack craig wrote: Hi Folks, I regret to report that Moblin, my hope for a mobile linux, is dead. My hw is Asus, EeePC 1000, 1GB ram, 40GB disk. Anyone running FC (11 maybe?) on hw like this? Hi Jack, (1)

Re: [slightly OT] rpm Vs deb [Was: Re: Moblin is dead, Fedora on netbooks?]

2010-02-16 Thread Michael Cronenworth
inode0 wrote: It if were brand new they could do whatever they pleased to create it. But it isn't brand new. And it isn't just two businesses who can tell their paid staff what to work on tomorrow. How long has MeeGo be around for? Does Fedora bicker over which shell it wants? Does Red Hat

Re: Moblin is dead, Fedora on netbooks?

2010-02-16 Thread jack craig
Wow! i fired this email off when i got home last night and it stirred quite an exchange. however, a bit of background will show my reaction is not a knee-jerk on my part, just the culmination of a path turning sour. i used to work for danger before M$ bought it out. i enjoyed the mobile

Re: [slightly OT] rpm Vs deb [Was: Re: Moblin is dead, Fedora on netbooks?]

2010-02-16 Thread inode0
On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 10:32 AM, Michael Cronenworth m...@cchtml.com wrote: inode0 wrote: It if were brand new they could do whatever they pleased to create it. But it isn't brand new. And it isn't just two businesses who can tell their paid staff what to work on tomorrow. How long has

Re: [slightly OT] rpm Vs deb [Was: Re: Moblin is dead, Fedora on netbooks?]

2010-02-16 Thread jack craig
On 02/16/2010 09:16 AM, Michael Cronenworth wrote: Yes, they are starting out the same but you should really Google or read through some recent (as of this month) posts by @nokia folk that i did! it was full of resentful/fearful n900 n800 users fearing orphanages for their Nokia hw.

Re: [slightly OT] rpm Vs deb [Was: Re: Moblin is dead, Fedora on netbooks?]

2010-02-16 Thread Michael Cronenworth
jack craig wrote: i did! it was full of resentful/fearful n900 n800 users fearing orphanages for their Nokia hw. talking heads can blabber all the marketing speak they want, but its the end user/developer whose opinion matters to me... i am not putting my trust in Nokia. for that matter,

Re: [slightly OT] rpm Vs deb [Was: Re: Moblin is dead, Fedora on netbooks?]

2010-02-16 Thread jack craig
HELL No! Trading one flakey vendor for a closed vendor is no plan. I am going to track down best practice for shoehorning fc11 to my netbook. FC is a known quantity (w/quality); one i have relied on with success for years. besides, they have these great user communities! ;) On 02/16/2010

Re: [slightly OT] rpm Vs deb [Was: Re: Moblin is dead, Fedora on netbooks?]

2010-02-16 Thread inode0
On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 11:16 AM, Michael Cronenworth m...@cchtml.com wrote: inode0 wrote: But Fedora doesn't bicker about this. Red Hat doesn't mandate this. Fedora as a community makes the decision. So why are we discussing it at all? Having transparent governance and community decision

Moblin is dead, Fedora on netbooks?

2010-02-15 Thread jack craig
Hi Folks, I regret to report that Moblin, my hope for a mobile linux, is dead. My hw is Asus, EeePC 1000, 1GB ram, 40GB disk. Anyone running FC (11 maybe?) on hw like this? Thx, jackc... -- jack craig ja...@linuxlighthouse.com 831-684-1375 (Office)

Re: Moblin is dead, Fedora on netbooks?

2010-02-15 Thread Don Quixote de la Mancha
Perhaps the Ubuntu Netbook Remix would serve your needs. Ubuntu also support ARM microprocessors, which these days are commonly used for mobile phones, but which soon will also be used for netbooks. The ARM architecture is vastly superior to x86 when power consumption - or battery life - is an

Re: Moblin is dead, Fedora on netbooks?

2010-02-15 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Mon, 15 Feb 2010 18:39:25 -0800 jack craig ja...@linuxlighthouse.com wrote: Hi Folks, I regret to report that Moblin, my hope for a mobile linux, is dead. oh? Not that I have heard. My hw is Asus, EeePC 1000, 1GB ram, 40GB disk. Anyone running FC (11 maybe?) on hw like this? I have

Re: Moblin is dead, Fedora on netbooks?

2010-02-15 Thread Dennis Gilmore
On Monday 15 February 2010 09:36:57 pm Don Quixote de la Mancha wrote: Perhaps the Ubuntu Netbook Remix would serve your needs. Ubuntu also support ARM microprocessors, which these days are commonly used for mobile phones, but which soon will also be used for netbooks. The ARM architecture

Re: Moblin is dead, Fedora on netbooks?

2010-02-15 Thread Itamar Reis Peixoto
You do realise that there is a fedora arm port right?  I run it on my beagle board and sheva plug.  it runs nicely Dennis that's true, runs very nice, very stable. in brazil the energy cost's alot of money, and arm don't wast energy, I am very happy with my Lord Sheeva running Fedora also

Re: Moblin is dead, Fedora on netbooks?

2010-02-15 Thread Tim
On Mon, 2010-02-15 at 20:52 -0800, Don Quixote de la Mancha wrote: I went to all kinds of effort and expense to build the very most powerful Xeon box I could afford. What I didn't realize, was that it would generate so much heat that I would not be able to tolerate its use with my window

Re: Moblin is dead, Fedora on netbooks?

2010-02-15 Thread Michael Cronenworth
On 02/15/2010 11:44 PM, Tim wrote: For my computers, I've stuck with old, low power, ~500 MHz Celerons to work my file and mail server. It's more than fast enough for that task, and doesn't use much power. I've one moderately powerful desktop and laptop computer. I would suggest you find

Re: Moblin is dead, Fedora on netbooks?

2010-02-15 Thread suvayu ali
On 16 February 2010 05:48, Michael Cronenworth m...@cchtml.com wrote: On 02/15/2010 11:44 PM, Tim wrote: For my computers, I've stuck with old, low power, ~500 MHz Celerons to work my file and mail server. It's more than fast enough for that task, and doesn't use much power. I've one

Re: Moblin is dead, Fedora on netbooks?

2010-02-15 Thread Tim
On Mon, 2010-02-15 at 23:48 -0600, Michael Cronenworth wrote: I would suggest you find out how much Celeron is really using before thinking it is low power. Well, considering that the PSU is only a 90 watt-er, a simple motherboard with only on-board i810, low amount of RAM, no daughterboards,

Re: Moblin is dead, Fedora on netbooks?

2010-02-15 Thread Michael Cronenworth
On 02/16/2010 12:57 AM, Tim wrote: Well, considering that the PSU is only a 90 watt-er, a simple motherboard with only on-board i810, low amount of RAM, no daughterboards, etc., it's going to use less power than a new box full of stuff, with heatsinks radiating heat everywhere... And it