Re: Most Efficient Network File sharing protocol?

2014-03-06 Thread lee
Ian Malone ibmal...@gmail.com writes: On 5 March 2014 13:21, lee l...@yun.yagibdah.de wrote: Patrick O'Callaghan pocallag...@gmail.com writes: On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 2:34 AM, lee l...@yun.yagibdah.de wrote: As to NFS, I have had bad experiences with it, like network cards freezing up and

Re: Most Efficient Network File sharing protocol?

2014-03-05 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 2:34 AM, lee l...@yun.yagibdah.de wrote: As to NFS, I have had bad experiences with it, like network cards freezing up and computers being halted because NFS failed for unknown reasons. I never got it to work reliably and would not recommend using NFS for anything.

Re: Most Efficient Network File sharing protocol?

2014-03-05 Thread lee
Patrick O'Callaghan pocallag...@gmail.com writes: On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 2:34 AM, lee l...@yun.yagibdah.de wrote: As to NFS, I have had bad experiences with it, like network cards freezing up and computers being halted because NFS failed for unknown reasons. I never got it to work reliably

Re: Most Efficient Network File sharing protocol?

2014-03-05 Thread Ian Malone
On 5 March 2014 13:21, lee l...@yun.yagibdah.de wrote: Patrick O'Callaghan pocallag...@gmail.com writes: On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 2:34 AM, lee l...@yun.yagibdah.de wrote: As to NFS, I have had bad experiences with it, like network cards freezing up and computers being halted because NFS failed

Re: Most Efficient Network File sharing protocol?

2014-03-04 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 2:58 AM, Dan Mossor dan.mos...@outlook.com wrote: These 4GiB transfers sometimes take close to 3 to 4 hours using NFS, and it is a Gigabit network. I regularly transfer files of 1 or 2 GB over NFS between two fairly slow 32-bit machines on a 100Mbps Ethernet. Takes 2 or 3

Re: Most Efficient Network File sharing protocol?

2014-03-04 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 4:48 AM, Marko Vojinovic vvma...@gmail.com wrote: If you do it this way, it should really not matter much which transfer protocol you are using. NFS, samba, ftp, scp, rsync, even http --- they should all give you roughly the same (fast) performance I disagree.

Re: Most Efficient Network File sharing protocol?

2014-03-04 Thread Ed Greshko
On 03/04/14 22:23, Fernando Cassia wrote: On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 4:48 AM, Marko Vojinovic vvma...@gmail.com mailto:vvma...@gmail.com wrote: If you do it this way, it should really not matter much which transfer protocol you are using. NFS, samba, ftp, scp, rsync, even http ---

Re: Most Efficient Network File sharing protocol?

2014-03-04 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 11:33 AM, Ed Greshko ed.gres...@greshko.com wrote: So, you are offering advice to use a protocol which may or may not exist and be available now? And of which you have no current experience? I'm offering a pointer to check whether Samba.org currently supports NETBEUI

Re: Most Efficient Network File sharing protocol?

2014-03-04 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 11:33 AM, Ed Greshko ed.gres...@greshko.com wrote: So, you are offering advice to use a protocol which may or may not exist and be available now? I'm asking the samba devs right now to learn something in the process (current status of NETBEUI support in Samba 4.x), and

Re: Most Efficient Network File sharing protocol?

2014-03-04 Thread g
hello ed, On 03/04/14 20:33, Ed Greshko wrote: So, you are offering advice to use a protocol which may or may not exist and be available now? And of which you have no current experience? Wouldn't it make better sense to cite performance comparisons of the various common protocols?

Re: Most Efficient Network File sharing protocol?

2014-03-04 Thread Pete Travis
On Mar 4, 2014 8:32 AM, Pete Travis li...@petetravis.com wrote: On Mar 3, 2014 7:58 PM, Dan Mossor dan.mos...@outlook.com wrote: . When the DVD is built, I pull the updates across the local network to my machine and build the DVD there. These 4GiB transfers sometimes take close to 3 to 4

Re: Most Efficient Network File sharing protocol?

2014-03-04 Thread Ed Greshko
On 03/04/14 22:48, Fernando Cassia wrote: On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 11:33 AM, Ed Greshko ed.gres...@greshko.com mailto:ed.gres...@greshko.com wrote: So, you are offering advice to use a protocol which may or may not exist and be available now? I'm asking the samba devs right now to

Re: Most Efficient Network File sharing protocol?

2014-03-04 Thread lee
Dan Mossor dan.mos...@outlook.com writes: When the DVD is built, I pull the updates across the local network to my machine and build the DVD there. These 4GiB transfers sometimes take close to 3 to 4 hours using NFS, and it is a Gigabit network. Have you checked the bandwidth usage during

Re: Most Efficient Network File sharing protocol?

2014-03-04 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Tue, 4 Mar 2014 11:48:47 -0300 Fernando Cassia fcas...@gmail.com wrote: I'm asking the samba devs right now to learn something in the process (current status of NETBEUI support in Samba 4.x), and to lower your anxiety. ;) So? What did the samba devs say? Did they even bother to answer the

Re: Most Efficient Network File sharing protocol?

2014-03-04 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 1:35 AM, Marko Vojinovic vvma...@gmail.com wrote: So? What did the samba devs say? Did they even bother to answer the question? Best, :-) Here's the update: the last kernel on top of which you can run NETBEUI is 2.4 [1] Nobody seems to have ported the required kernel

Re: Most Efficient Network File sharing protocol?

2014-03-04 Thread Ed Greshko
On 03/05/14 14:54, Fernando Cassia wrote: Here's the update: the last kernel on top of which you can run NETBEUI is 2.4 So, aren't you happy you've helped the OP avoid doing the research only to learn it wouldn't have helped him at all? :-) -- Getting tired of non-Fedora discussions and

Re: Most Efficient Network File sharing protocol?

2014-03-04 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 3:57 AM, Ed Greshko ed.gres...@greshko.com wrote: So, aren't you happy you've helped the OP avoid doing the research only to learn it wouldn't have helped him at all? :-) I'm happy of having done the research to learn something myself and educate others in the process.

Re: Most Efficient Network File sharing protocol?

2014-03-03 Thread Dan Mossor
On 02/28/2014 01:02 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 5:13 PM, Mark Haney mha...@practichem.com wrote: On 02/28/14 12:07, Dan Mossor wrote: What do y'all consider the most efficient network file system? NFS? SMB? SFTP? Maybe you should outline your requirements a bit

Re: Most Efficient Network File sharing protocol?

2014-03-03 Thread Roger Heflin
use nfs...but make sure you *read* from a nfs mount of the data and write to local disk. Note that to make a network filesystem safe during writing that it is going to usually be slower, and because of that reading is significantly faster than writing. And in general if you are using small files

Re: Most Efficient Network File sharing protocol?

2014-03-03 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Mon, 3 Mar 2014 20:58:36 -0600 Dan Mossor dan.mos...@outlook.com wrote: When the DVD is built, I pull the updates across the local network to my machine and build the DVD there. These 4GiB transfers sometimes take close to 3 to 4 hours using NFS, and it is a Gigabit network. rsync appeared

Most Efficient Network File sharing protocol?

2014-02-28 Thread Dan Mossor
What do y'all consider the most efficient network file system? NFS? SMB? SFTP? I've been doing a lot of file transfers across the network, and have been, well, less than impressed with the performance of NFS. I haven't set up a samba server yet (and I wasn't sure the SMB protocol itself

Re: Most Efficient Network File sharing protocol?

2014-02-28 Thread Mark Haney
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/28/14 12:07, Dan Mossor wrote: What do y'all consider the most efficient network file system? NFS? SMB? SFTP? I've been doing a lot of file transfers across the network, and have been, well, less than impressed with the performance of

Re: Most Efficient Network File sharing protocol?

2014-02-28 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 2:13 PM, Mark Haney mha...@practichem.com wrote: Samba seems to work pretty well for me when I need it, which is fairly often. Old-school Netbeui was faster, but it's also ancient and deprecated. FC -- During times of Universal Deceit, telling the truth becomes a

Re: Most Efficient Network File sharing protocol?

2014-02-28 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 2:45 PM, Fernando Cassia fcas...@gmail.com wrote: Old-school Netbeui was faster, but it's also ancient and deprecated. To expand on the above, a helpful quote: http://h71000.www7.hp.com/doc/73final/6556/6556pro_021.html --- A.3.2 NetBEUI Protocol The NetBIOS Extended

Re: Most Efficient Network File sharing protocol?

2014-02-28 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 5:13 PM, Mark Haney mha...@practichem.com wrote: On 02/28/14 12:07, Dan Mossor wrote: What do y'all consider the most efficient network file system? NFS? SMB? SFTP? Maybe you should outline your requirements a bit more. For example SFTP is not a filesystem, so are you

Re: Most Efficient Network File sharing protocol?

2014-02-28 Thread Matthew Miller
On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 11:07:38AM -0600, Dan Mossor wrote: What do y'all consider the most efficient network file system? NFS? SMB? SFTP? NFS over UDP. Less reliable, but less overhead. Can be significant if you have a lot of data to push around. -- Matthew Miller-- Fedora Project