Re: No USB keyboard or mouse on login ? F33 Workstation, USB devices.

2021-02-05 Thread Roger Heflin
Do you have the external hub plugged into its own power? Or is it just drawing power from usb? You might try booting into the previous kernel and doing a quick test, if it works there, then it is may be a new feature enforcing something that might have happened or work, or it may simply be a a k

Re: No USB keyboard or mouse on login ? F33 Workstation, USB devices.

2021-02-04 Thread Tom Horsley
On Thu, 4 Feb 2021 19:34:01 -0700 linux guy wrote: > It worked fine up until I rebooted with a new kernel this afternoon. Hardware is well known to wait for a software upgrade to break in order to maximize confusion :-). ___ users mailing list -- users@

Re: No USB keyboard or mouse on login ? F33 Workstation, USB devices.

2021-02-04 Thread linux guy
On Thu, Feb 4, 2021 at 7:28 PM Tom Horsley wrote: > > That sounds a lot like the same hardware failure I have on my > old P8H67-V (AUSTek) system. I just tested it again, and the USB3 > ports will work with a single simple device plugged in (like a > USB keyboard, which is what I tried), but a hu

Re: No USB keyboard or mouse on login ? F33 Workstation, USB devices.

2021-02-04 Thread linux guy
On Thu, Feb 4, 2021 at 7:16 PM Samuel Sieb wrote: > On 2/4/21 5:28 PM, linux guy wrote: > > > > Have you tried booting an earlier kernel? > > > > > > Yes. The behavior was consistent across the 3 kernels I had installed. > > uname -a > > Linux bigboy 5.10.11-200.fc33.x86_64 #1 SMP Wed Jan 27

Re: No USB keyboard or mouse on login ? F33 Workstation, USB devices.

2021-02-04 Thread Tom Horsley
On Thu, 4 Feb 2021 18:56:27 -0700 linux guy wrote: > I have a USB2 hub attached to my computer. It was connected to a USB3 > port. I moved it to a USB2 port and how all my USB devices work. None of > them are connected to a USB3 port. That sounds a lot like the same hardware failure I have on

Re: No USB keyboard or mouse on login ? F33 Workstation, USB devices.

2021-02-04 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 2/4/21 5:28 PM, linux guy wrote: Have you tried booting an earlier kernel? Yes.  The behavior was consistent across the 3 kernels I had installed. uname -a Linux bigboy 5.10.11-200.fc33.x86_64 #1 SMP Wed Jan 27 20:21:22 UTC 2021 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux If it's not working now

Re: No USB keyboard or mouse on login ? F33 Workstation, USB devices.

2021-02-04 Thread linux guy
I have a USB2 hub attached to my computer. It was connected to a USB3 port. I moved it to a USB2 port and how all my USB devices work. None of them are connected to a USB3 port. $ lsusb Bus 006 Device 004: ID 0951:1666 Kingston Technology DataTraveler 100 G3/G4/SE9 G2/50 Bus 006 Device 003: ID

Re: No USB keyboard or mouse on login ? F33 Workstation, USB devices.

2021-02-04 Thread linux guy
> > I can't ssh into it. Connection refused. Looks like I closed port 22, > > which is what I normally do. > > Workstation defaults to having ssh disabled. > I set ssh up on all my machines for various reasons. I keep the port closed when I am not using it, as I had it today. __

Re: No USB keyboard or mouse on login ? F33 Workstation, USB devices.

2021-02-04 Thread linux guy
> Do you happen to have usbguard activated? > No I did not. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/

Re: No USB keyboard or mouse on login ? F33 Workstation, USB devices.

2021-02-04 Thread linux guy
> did you check to ensure that any extension USB cable being used is rated > for USB3? > A USB2 device was plugged directly into a USB3 port. It worked during boot to edit the kernel boot line in the grub editor, but not after booting. ___ users mailing

Re: No USB keyboard or mouse on login ? F33 Workstation, USB devices.

2021-02-04 Thread linux guy
> Have you tried booting an earlier kernel? > Yes. The behavior was consistent across the 3 kernels I had installed. uname -a Linux bigboy 5.10.11-200.fc33.x86_64 #1 SMP Wed Jan 27 20:21:22 UTC 2021 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux ___ users mailing list

Re: No USB keyboard or mouse on login ? F33 Workstation, USB devices.

2021-02-04 Thread Ding Yi Chen
Do you happen to have usbguard activated? If that is the case, you may need to grant the access all the keyboards and mices you may need to plugin. On Fri, Feb 5, 2021 at 8:33 AM Samuel Sieb wrote: > > On 2/4/21 12:58 PM, linux guy wrote: > > I can ping the computer and it responds. > > > > I ca

Re: No USB keyboard or mouse on login ? F33 Workstation, USB devices.

2021-02-04 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 2/4/21 12:58 PM, linux guy wrote: I can ping the computer and it responds. I can't ssh into it.  Connection refused.  Looks like I closed port 22, which is what I normally do. Workstation defaults to having ssh disabled. ___ users mailing list --

Re: No USB keyboard or mouse on login ? F33 Workstation, USB devices.

2021-02-04 Thread Clifford Snow
did you check to ensure that any extension USB cable being used is rated for USB3? On Thu, Feb 4, 2021 at 2:18 PM linux guy wrote: > The only working USB devices on this computer are the wired USB keyboard > and the wired USB mouse. Not sure which they are in the tree above, I > don't want to

Re: No USB keyboard or mouse on login ? F33 Workstation, USB devices.

2021-02-04 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 2/4/21 12:44 PM, linux guy wrote: I just did an update to my F33 Workstation install and now I can log in.  I can't move the mouse pointer on the login screen.   The keyboard doesn't appear to work either.   Both are USB devices. Have you tried booting an earlier kernel? ___

Re: No USB keyboard or mouse on login ? F33 Workstation, USB devices.

2021-02-04 Thread linux guy
The only working USB devices on this computer are the wired USB keyboard and the wired USB mouse. Not sure which they are in the tree above, I don't want to unplug anything at the moment as I'm getting work done. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fe

Re: No USB keyboard or mouse on login ? F33 Workstation, USB devices.

2021-02-04 Thread linux guy
Ask and you shall receive. $ lsusb -t /: Bus 06.Port 1: Dev 1, Class=root_hub, Driver=xhci_hcd/4p, 1M /: Bus 05.Port 1: Dev 1, Class=root_hub, Driver=xhci_hcd/4p, 480M |__ Port 1: Dev 2, If 0, Class=Human Interface Device, Driver=usbhid, 1.5M |__ Port 2: Dev 3, If 0, Class=Human Interf

Re: No USB keyboard or mouse on login ? F33 Workstation, USB devices.

2021-02-04 Thread edward via users
On 2/4/21 2:00 PM, linux guy wrote: One other symptom: the power lights on my USB wired keyboard did not light up when I was plugging it into the USB3 ports.  They now light up when plugged into the USB2 port.      lsusb -t  shows  physical usb device hierarchy as a tree. this may help to n

Re: No USB keyboard or mouse on login ? F33 Workstation, USB devices.

2021-02-04 Thread linux guy
One other symptom: the power lights on my USB wired keyboard did not light up when I was plugging it into the USB3 ports. They now light up when plugged into the USB2 port. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an em

Re: No USB keyboard or mouse on login ? F33 Workstation, USB devices.

2021-02-04 Thread linux guy
> my initial thought was probably slow keys were enabled. > > https://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=66&t=36625 > Slowkeys is not enabled. This is NOT keyboard specific. It is affecting a USB hub, flash drive and USB IDE hard drive. This issue seems to affect all devices connected

Re: No USB keyboard or mouse on login ? F33 Workstation, USB devices.

2021-02-04 Thread edward via users
On 2/4/21 1:41 PM, linux guy wrote: This is not a hardware issue.  Something changes in the software during the boot process.     my initial thought was probably slow keys were enabled.      https://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=66&t=36625 __

Re: No USB keyboard or mouse on login ? F33 Workstation, USB devices.

2021-02-04 Thread linux guy
The USB hard drive that is on the other USB bus does not connect to my computer. Nor does anything else connected to that bus. But a keyboard connected to that bus works during boot up. $ lsusb Bus 006 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub Bus 005 Device 003: ID 04f2:0402 Chicon

Re: No USB keyboard or mouse on login ? F33 Workstation, USB devices.

2021-02-04 Thread linux guy
> On 2/4/21 1:30 PM, linux guy wrote: > > I am now logged into my plasma session using a wired keyboard and a > > wired mouse, using USB ports that were not previously used. > > sounds more of a usb port or bus issue. > The keyboard and USB port worked fine during boot up. I was able to edit

Re: No USB keyboard or mouse on login ? F33 Workstation, USB devices.

2021-02-04 Thread edward via users
On 2/4/21 1:30 PM, linux guy wrote: I am now logged into my plasma session using a wired keyboard and a wired mouse, using USB ports that were not previously used.    sounds more of a usb port or bus issue. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedo

Re: No USB keyboard or mouse on login ? F33 Workstation, USB devices.

2021-02-04 Thread linux guy
I am now logged into my plasma session using a wired keyboard and a wired mouse, using USB ports that were not previously used. I am available to troubleshoot anything the community wants. Fire away with your questions. ___ users mailing list -- users@l

Re: No USB keyboard or mouse on login ? F33 Workstation, USB devices.

2021-02-04 Thread linux guy
I'm logged into the console session. I am going to reboot to plasma, to see what happens. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.f

Re: No USB keyboard or mouse on login ? F33 Workstation, USB devices.

2021-02-04 Thread linux guy
> > It points to > > a local configuration change to me. > > I do remember seeing USB related BIOS settings on systems, maybe > one of them got changed somehow. > No changes, hardware or BIOS, have been made to the computer. Uptime was days to a week, can't remember the last time I rebooted. Al

Re: No USB keyboard or mouse on login ? F33 Workstation, USB devices.

2021-02-04 Thread linux guy
> Maybe the USB hardware is dead. I have an old computer where none of > the USB ports work (and the onboard video also doesn't work, I think > perhaps they are on the same dead chipset). > The keyboard works fine during early boot. I can edit in the grub editor just fine. My *guess* is that the

Re: No USB keyboard or mouse on login ? F33 Workstation, USB devices.

2021-02-04 Thread Tom Horsley
On Thu, 4 Feb 2021 16:15:39 -0500 Jonathan Billings wrote: > It points to > a local configuration change to me. I do remember seeing USB related BIOS settings on systems, maybe one of them got changed somehow. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedor

Re: No USB keyboard or mouse on login ? F33 Workstation, USB devices.

2021-02-04 Thread linux guy
I got the wired USB keyboard working by plugging it straight into a USB2 port. Standby for more testing. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct:

Re: No USB keyboard or mouse on login ? F33 Workstation, USB devices.

2021-02-04 Thread Tom Horsley
On Thu, 4 Feb 2021 14:13:15 -0700 linux guy wrote: > I updated and rebooted my system in the first place because a USB hard > drive I was using wasn't responding. Maybe the USB hardware is dead. I have an old computer where none of the USB ports work (and the onboard video also doesn't work, I th

Re: No USB keyboard or mouse on login ? F33 Workstation, USB devices.

2021-02-04 Thread linux guy
> That sounds like your USB bus might be having problems. > I agree, that is what it looks like. The physical USB bus seems to be fine as the keyboard works in the grub editor. This appears to be a USB bus software issue. > Have you tried the keyboard in every USB port on your system? > I ju

Re: No USB keyboard or mouse on login ? F33 Workstation, USB devices.

2021-02-04 Thread Jonathan Billings
On Thu, Feb 04, 2021 at 02:13:15PM -0700, linux guy wrote: > > I updated and rebooted my system in the first place because a USB hard > drive I was using wasn't responding. That sounds like your USB bus might be having problems. Have you tried the keyboard in every USB port on your system? --

Re: No USB keyboard or mouse on login ? F33 Workstation, USB devices.

2021-02-04 Thread edward via users
On 2/4/21 12:44 PM, linux guy wrote: I just did an update to my F33 Workstation install and now I can log in.  I can't move the mouse pointer on the login screen.   The keyboard doesn't appear to work either.   Both are USB devices. My login manager is GDM.  I'm running Plasma as my desktop m

Re: No USB keyboard or mouse on login ? F33 Workstation, USB devices.

2021-02-04 Thread Jonathan Billings
On Thu, Feb 04, 2021 at 02:06:59PM -0700, linux guy wrote: > > I was able to edit the kernel boot line in the grub editor. > My system booted to a system login prompt. > My keyboard does not work. I cannot type a user name to log in. So, since it seems to be OK during GRUB but not once the kerne

Re: No USB keyboard or mouse on login ? F33 Workstation, USB devices.

2021-02-04 Thread linux guy
My motherboard (Asus TUF Wifi X570) has a PS/2 connector on it. But I do not have a PS/2 keyboard ! I used to... but I think it is long gone. I'll check. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le..

Re: No USB keyboard or mouse on login ? F33 Workstation, USB devices.

2021-02-04 Thread linux guy
I updated and rebooted my system in the first place because a USB hard drive I was using wasn't responding. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct:

Re: No USB keyboard or mouse on login ? F33 Workstation, USB devices.

2021-02-04 Thread linux guy
Sorry for top posting. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: http

Re: No USB keyboard or mouse on login ? F33 Workstation, USB devices.

2021-02-04 Thread linux guy
I was able to edit the kernel boot line in the grub editor. My system booted to a system login prompt. My keyboard does not work. I cannot type a user name to log in. On Thu, Feb 4, 2021 at 2:01 PM linux guy wrote: > > So the GRUB screen responds to key-presses, just not the fully booted >> >

Re: No USB keyboard or mouse on login ? F33 Workstation, USB devices.

2021-02-04 Thread linux guy
> So the GRUB screen responds to key-presses, just not the fully booted > That is correct. OS? Can you tell it to boot into text mode (adding > systemd.unit=multi-user.target to the kernel line)? I can. Does the keyboard > work then? > Standby wile I test that. ___

Re: No USB keyboard or mouse on login ? F33 Workstation, USB devices.

2021-02-04 Thread linux guy
I can ping the computer and it responds. I can't ssh into it. Connection refused. Looks like I closed port 22, which is what I normally do. Ideas ? ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lis

Re: No USB keyboard or mouse on login ? F33 Workstation, USB devices.

2021-02-04 Thread Jonathan Billings
On Thu, Feb 04, 2021 at 01:53:59PM -0700, linux guy wrote: > I've done all those things. I also tried booting with every kernel that is > installed on my computer. So the GRUB screen responds to key-presses, just not the fully booted OS? Can you tell it to boot into text mode (adding systemd.unit

Re: No USB keyboard or mouse on login ? F33 Workstation, USB devices.

2021-02-04 Thread linux guy
On Thu, Feb 4, 2021 at 1:51 PM Tom Horsley wrote: > On Thu, 4 Feb 2021 13:44:00 -0700 > linux guy wrote: > > > How do I resolve this ? > > First thing to try is unplugging and plugging back in the USB > devices (or dongles if they are wireless). > > If that doesn't work, try plugging them into a

Re: No USB keyboard or mouse on login ? F33 Workstation, USB devices.

2021-02-04 Thread Tom Horsley
On Thu, 4 Feb 2021 13:44:00 -0700 linux guy wrote: > How do I resolve this ? First thing to try is unplugging and plugging back in the USB devices (or dongles if they are wireless). If that doesn't work, try plugging them into a different USB port. If that doesn't work, I guess power cycling is

No USB keyboard or mouse on login ? F33 Workstation, USB devices.

2021-02-04 Thread linux guy
I just did an update to my F33 Workstation install and now I can log in. I can't move the mouse pointer on the login screen. The keyboard doesn't appear to work either. Both are USB devices. My login manager is GDM. I'm running Plasma as my desktop manager. I don't think I have ssh enabled