Re: OT: Thunderbird spontaneously unsubscribing folders.

2014-07-13 Thread poma
On 07/13/2014 02:36 AM, Rolf Turner wrote: On 13/07/14 09:11, poma wrote: SNIP Always try to contact the admins if there are problems. It is always good practice. I have in the past not found the U. of Auckland IT people to be very helpful. They don't like the fact that I am using my own

Re: OT: Thunderbird spontaneously unsubscribing folders.

2014-07-13 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 07/13/2014 01:54 AM, Rolf Turner wrote: On 13/07/14 03:37, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Sat, 2014-07-12 at 12:46 +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote: You might want to try and find out if those times coincide with your system operators restoring a backup to their drives. Some SysOps do a really

Re: OT: Thunderbird spontaneously unsubscribing folders.

2014-07-13 Thread Joe Zeff
On 07/13/2014 08:53 AM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: Sometimes, thunderbird becomes non-reactive for minutes longer periods (several minutes), but is back afterwards. Next time that happens, run top to see if it's working its little ass off or just taking a nap. -- users mailing list

Re: OT: Thunderbird spontaneously unsubscribing folders.

2014-07-13 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 07/13/2014 06:06 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 07/13/2014 08:53 AM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: Sometimes, thunderbird becomes non-reactive for minutes longer periods (several minutes), but is back afterwards. Next time that happens, run top to see if it's working its little ass off or just taking a

Re: OT: Thunderbird spontaneously unsubscribing folders.

2014-07-12 Thread Tim
Allegedly, on or about 12 July 2014, Rolf Turner sent: (1) From time to time, for no reason that I can discern, Thunderbird spontaneously unsubscribes all (or perhaps most of) my email folders and subfolders. You might want to try and find out if those times coincide with your system

Re: OT: Thunderbird spontaneously unsubscribing folders.

2014-07-12 Thread Heinz Diehl
On 12.07.2014, Rolf Turner wrote: (1) From time to time, for no reason that I can discern, Thunderbird spontaneously unsubscribes all (or perhaps most of) my email folders and subfolders. [] This is surely not an answer you would expect, but: Thunderbird is badly suited to handle big

Re: OT: Thunderbird spontaneously unsubscribing folders.

2014-07-12 Thread Ed Greshko
On Jul 12, 2014 3:57 PM, Heinz Diehl h...@fritha.org wrote: On 12.07.2014, Rolf Turner wrote: (1) From time to time, for no reason that I can discern, Thunderbird spontaneously unsubscribes all (or perhaps most of) my email folders and subfolders. [] This is surely not an answer

Re: OT: Thunderbird spontaneously unsubscribing folders.

2014-07-12 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 07/12/2014 08:34 AM, Tim wrote: Allegedly, on or about 12 July 2014, Rolf Turner sent: (1) From time to time, for no reason that I can discern, Thunderbird spontaneously unsubscribes all (or perhaps most of) my email folders and subfolders. You might want to try and find out if those times

Re: OT: Thunderbird spontaneously unsubscribing folders.

2014-07-12 Thread Rolf Turner
On 12/07/14 17:32, Ed Greshko wrote: On 07/12/14 12:51, Rolf Turner wrote: XPCOMGlueLoad error for file /usr/lib64/thunderbird/libxul.so: libdbus-glib-1.so.2: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS64 Couldn't load XPCOM. Naturally I have no idea what this really means, or what if anything can be done

Re: OT: Thunderbird spontaneously unsubscribing folders.

2014-07-12 Thread Rolf Turner
On 12/07/14 17:41, poma wrote: On 12.07.2014 06:51, Rolf Turner wrote: ... ***Is*** there anything that can be done about it? If so, what? Please keep it simple and explicit, if you would be so kind. I need a *recipe* --- Do this, and then this, and then this I understand a fair bit of

Re: OT: Thunderbird spontaneously unsubscribing folders.

2014-07-12 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2014-07-12 at 12:46 +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote: You might want to try and find out if those times coincide with your system operators restoring a backup to their drives. Some SysOps do a really half-arsed job at restore and backup, mangling things terribly. Though I am not

Re: OT: Thunderbird spontaneously unsubscribing folders.

2014-07-12 Thread poma
On 12.07.2014 15:28, Rolf Turner wrote: On 12/07/14 17:41, poma wrote: On 12.07.2014 06:51, Rolf Turner wrote: ... ***Is*** there anything that can be done about it? If so, what? Please keep it simple and explicit, if you would be so kind. I need a *recipe* --- Do this, and then this, and

Re: OT: Thunderbird spontaneously unsubscribing folders.

2014-07-12 Thread Ed Greshko
On 07/12/14 21:18, Rolf Turner wrote: Nearly there I think. I downloaded the second tarball (I *do* prefer British English) and unpacked it; I cd-ed to the resulting thunderbird directory and executed ./thunderbird. The program started OK --- I am now using it (i.e. I am using thunderbird

Re: OT: Thunderbird spontaneously unsubscribing folders.

2014-07-12 Thread Rolf Turner
On 13/07/14 03:37, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Sat, 2014-07-12 at 12:46 +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote: You might want to try and find out if those times coincide with your system operators restoring a backup to their drives. Some SysOps do a really half-arsed job at restore and backup,

Re: OT: Thunderbird spontaneously unsubscribing folders.

2014-07-12 Thread Rolf Turner
On 13/07/14 12:14, Ed Greshko wrote: On 07/13/14 07:35, Rolf Turner wrote: Yes, I had to muck around a bit to get Adobe Reader installed; yum didn't directly work (probably because my Fedora 17 is EOL). According to notes that I kept, the recipe (found somewhere on the web) that I used was:

Re: OT: Thunderbird spontaneously unsubscribing folders.

2014-07-12 Thread Rolf Turner
On 13/07/14 09:11, poma wrote: SNIP Always try to contact the admins if there are problems. It is always good practice. I have in the past not found the U. of Auckland IT people to be very helpful. They don't like the fact that I am using my own laptop on which I have superuser privileges

Re: OT: Thunderbird spontaneously unsubscribing folders.

2014-07-12 Thread Ed Greshko
On 07/13/14 08:32, Rolf Turner wrote: Now, you probably will run into a bit of difficulty or inconvenience.You have 2 copies of t-bird installed. One is well integrated with Fedora. The other not. So, if you were to click on a mailto: link in a web page, the older version of T-Bird will

OT: Thunderbird spontaneously unsubscribing folders.

2014-07-11 Thread Rolf Turner
This is of course not a Fedora issue as such, but I have tried hard and without success to find answers elsewhere. And since this list has so many contributors who are *so* knowledgeable (abrasive, cranky, cryptic, but above all *knowledgeable*) I thought I would ask here. The question is

Re: OT: Thunderbird spontaneously unsubscribing folders.

2014-07-11 Thread Rick Stevens
On 07/11/2014 04:54 PM, Rolf Turner issued this missive: This is of course not a Fedora issue as such, but I have tried hard and without success to find answers elsewhere. And since this list has so many contributors who are *so* knowledgeable (abrasive, cranky, cryptic, but above all

Re: OT: Thunderbird spontaneously unsubscribing folders.

2014-07-11 Thread Ed Greshko
On 07/12/14 07:54, Rolf Turner wrote: This is of course not a Fedora issue as such, but I have tried hard and without success to find answers elsewhere. And since this list has so many contributors who are *so* knowledgeable (abrasive, cranky, cryptic, but above all *knowledgeable*) I

Re: OT: Thunderbird spontaneously unsubscribing folders.

2014-07-11 Thread Rolf Turner
On 12/07/14 12:04, Rick Stevens wrote: On 07/11/2014 04:54 PM, Rolf Turner issued this missive: This is of course not a Fedora issue as such, but I have tried hard and without success to find answers elsewhere. And since this list has so many contributors who are *so* knowledgeable (abrasive,

Re: OT: Thunderbird spontaneously unsubscribing folders.

2014-07-11 Thread Joe Zeff
On 07/11/2014 04:54 PM, Rolf Turner wrote: Has anyone any insight into why this unsubscription phenomenon should occur and how one might prevent it from occurring? That's a good question. Have you tried asking here: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/products/thunderbird -- users mailing

Re: OT: Thunderbird spontaneously unsubscribing folders.

2014-07-11 Thread Rolf Turner
On 12/07/14 12:14, Ed Greshko wrote: On 07/12/14 07:54, Rolf Turner wrote: This is of course not a Fedora issue as such, but I have tried hard and without success to find answers elsewhere. And since this list has so many contributors who are *so* knowledgeable (abrasive, cranky, cryptic,

Re: OT: Thunderbird spontaneously unsubscribing folders.

2014-07-11 Thread Rolf Turner
On 12/07/14 12:20, Joe Zeff wrote: On 07/11/2014 04:54 PM, Rolf Turner wrote: Has anyone any insight into why this unsubscription phenomenon should occur and how one might prevent it from occurring? That's a good question. Have you tried asking here:

Re: OT: Thunderbird spontaneously unsubscribing folders.

2014-07-11 Thread poma
On 12.07.2014 02:27, Rolf Turner wrote: On 12/07/14 12:14, Ed Greshko wrote: On 07/12/14 07:54, Rolf Turner wrote: This is of course not a Fedora issue as such, but I have tried hard and without success to find answers elsewhere. And since this list has so many contributors who are *so*

Re: OT: Thunderbird spontaneously unsubscribing folders.

2014-07-11 Thread Ed Greshko
On 07/12/14 08:27, Rolf Turner wrote: On 12/07/14 12:14, Ed Greshko wrote: Are you talking about imap folders? If so, the subscription information is kept on the server side. So, for example, when I use T-Bird on a Virtual Machine and define my existing email account all my subscribed

Re: OT: Thunderbird spontaneously unsubscribing folders.

2014-07-11 Thread poma
On 12.07.2014 02:27, Rolf Turner wrote: So how might I upgrade to the latest version? I must confess that I am running a very elderly version of Fedora (17, to be explicit). I don't dare try to upgrade my Fedora version, given what I have read on this list about the problems that are involved

Re: OT: Thunderbird spontaneously unsubscribing folders.

2014-07-11 Thread Doug
On 07/11/2014 11:12 PM, poma wrote: On 12.07.2014 02:27, Rolf Turner wrote: So how might I upgrade to the latest version? I must confess that I am running a very elderly version of Fedora (17, to be explicit). I don't dare try to upgrade my Fedora version, given what I have read on this list

Re: OT: Thunderbird spontaneously unsubscribing folders.

2014-07-11 Thread Rolf Turner
On 12/07/14 14:44, Ed Greshko wrote: SNIP P. S. I am running Thunderbird 17.0.7, if that is of any relevance. It should not matterbut that is a very old version. So how might I upgrade to the latest version? I must confess that Iam running a very elderly version of Fedora (17, to be

Re: OT: Thunderbird spontaneously unsubscribing folders.

2014-07-11 Thread poma
On 12.07.2014 06:51, Rolf Turner wrote: On 12/07/14 14:44, Ed Greshko wrote: SNIP P. S. I am running Thunderbird 17.0.7, if that is of any relevance. It should not matterbut that is a very old version. So how might I upgrade to the latest version? I must confess that Iam running a

Re: OT: Thunderbird spontaneously unsubscribing folders.

2014-07-11 Thread Ed Greshko
On 07/12/14 12:51, Rolf Turner wrote: XPCOMGlueLoad error for file /usr/lib64/thunderbird/libxul.so: libdbus-glib-1.so.2: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS64 Couldn't load XPCOM. Naturally I have no idea what this really means, or what if anything can be done about it. ***Is*** there anything

Re: OT: Thunderbird spontaneously unsubscribing folders.

2014-07-11 Thread poma
On 12.07.2014 06:51, Rolf Turner wrote: ... ***Is*** there anything that can be done about it? If so, what? Please keep it simple and explicit, if you would be so kind. I need a *recipe* --- Do this, and then this, and then this I understand a fair bit of Linux jargon, but there is a