Re: PSA: Do not run 'dnf update' inside GNOME, KDE or any other graphical desktop on Fedora 24

2016-10-04 Thread Outback Dingo
On Wed, Oct 5, 2016 at 8:35 AM, Rick Stevens wrote: > On 10/04/2016 04:21 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: >> On 10/04/2016 04:12 PM, Rick Stevens wrote: >>> I don't think I've ever run one of the GUI package managers. I have run >>> "dnf --refresh upgrade" in an Xfce terminal, as root,

Re: PSA: Do not run 'dnf update' inside GNOME, KDE or any other graphical desktop on Fedora 24

2016-10-04 Thread Rick Stevens
On 10/04/2016 04:21 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 10/04/2016 04:12 PM, Rick Stevens wrote: >> I don't think I've ever run one of the GUI package managers. I have run >> "dnf --refresh upgrade" in an Xfce terminal, as root, any number of >> times (most of the time, in fact). I ran into an X screwup only

Re: PSA: Do not run 'dnf update' inside GNOME, KDE or any other graphical desktop on Fedora 24

2016-10-04 Thread Joe Zeff
On 10/04/2016 04:12 PM, Rick Stevens wrote: I don't think I've ever run one of the GUI package managers. I have run "dnf --refresh upgrade" in an Xfce terminal, as root, any number of times (most of the time, in fact). I ran into an X screwup only once (early this week) and I think it was an

Re: PSA: Do not run 'dnf update' inside GNOME, KDE or any other graphical desktop on Fedora 24

2016-10-04 Thread Rick Stevens
On 10/04/2016 02:46 PM, stan wrote: > (Copying to the list) > > On Tue, 04 Oct 2016 17:13:26 -0400 > "Eddie G. O'Connor Jr." wrote: > >> Just curious.i read you all saying you don't run dnf "inside a >> desktop" am I to assume that me running a terminal AFTER LOGGING

Re: PSA: Do not run 'dnf update' inside GNOME, KDE or any other graphical desktop on Fedora 24

2016-10-04 Thread stan
(Copying to the list) On Tue, 04 Oct 2016 17:13:26 -0400 "Eddie G. O'Connor Jr." wrote: > Just curious.i read you all saying you don't run dnf "inside a > desktop" am I to assume that me running a terminal AFTER LOGGING IN > TO THE DESKTOP is not a good idea..? I'm

Re: PSA: Do not run 'dnf update' inside GNOME, KDE or any other graphical desktop on Fedora 24

2016-10-04 Thread stan
On Tue, 04 Oct 2016 08:51:07 -0700 Adam Williamson wrote: > I'm working with the reporter right now to investigate and hopefully > get this fixed, but in the meantime - and this is in fact our standard > advice anyway, but it bears repeating - DON'T RUN 'dnf update'

Re: PSA: Do not run 'dnf update' inside GNOME, KDE or any other graphical desktop on Fedora 24

2016-10-04 Thread P. G.
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > Maybe I've just been lucky but I run dnf on a daily basis in a Konsole > terminal window (under KDE) and have never seen this kind of problem. I > don't use the graphical updater(s). I run dnf in the KDE konsole, never the plasma update utility, at least once a

Re: PSA: Do not run 'dnf update' inside GNOME, KDE or any other graphical desktop on Fedora 24

2016-10-04 Thread Chris Murphy
On Tue, Oct 4, 2016 at 9:56 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > On 4 October 2016 at 16:51, Adam Williamson > wrote: >> >> Running the update process inside a desktop just gives it all the more >> opportunity to crash somehow. If the terminal app

Re: PSA: Do not run 'dnf update' inside GNOME, KDE or any other graphical desktop on Fedora 24

2016-10-04 Thread Gerald B. Cox
On Tue, Oct 4, 2016 at 8:56 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On 4 October 2016 at 16:51, Adam Williamson > wrote: > >> Running the update process inside a desktop just gives it all the more >> opportunity to crash somehow. If the terminal app

Re: PSA: Do not run 'dnf update' inside GNOME, KDE or any other graphical desktop on Fedora 24

2016-10-04 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On 4 October 2016 at 16:51, Adam Williamson wrote: > Running the update process inside a desktop just gives it all the more > opportunity to crash somehow. If the terminal app crashes, the update > crashes. If the desktop crashes, the update crashes. > > I don't want