On Thu, Nov 28, 2013 at 03:09:18PM -0600, g wrote:
On 11/28/2013 02:35 PM, Garry T. Williams wrote:
Without the proper headers, correct threading is impossible. My
client approximates it.
this is true.
Your client is doing the same thing -- approximating threading.
it may well
On Sat, Nov 30, 2013 at 1:40 AM, David dgbo...@gmail.com wrote:
Ya'll have seen the AP is gone yet the thread goes on and on? :-)
Because the name g is mental deficient.
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On Sun, Dec 01, 2013 at 02:43:50PM +0530, AP wrote:
On Sat, Nov 30, 2013 at 1:40 AM, David dgbo...@gmail.com wrote:
Ya'll have seen the AP is gone yet the thread goes on and on? :-)
Because the name g is mental deficient.
What you wrote has nothing to do with what you quoted.
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On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 1:06 AM, Robert Holtzman hol...@cox.net wrote:
What you wrote has nothing to do with what you quoted.
The OP has known to me now...Its over but my mean to say was that some
people like g (who are without names), actually extend it to
increase the flame of war.
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Allegedly, on or about 28 November 2013, g sent:
let out one point.
if you will note;
X-Mailer: GMX.com Web Mailer
is also a thread breaker.
I think that one may just be due to a bad webmail client. Some of them
are just plain awful, in a plethora of ways.
He has posted from at
hello tim,
On 11/29/2013 09:02 AM, Tim wrote:
He has posted from at least three other addresses, in the past,
which worked properly. Just the gmx.com one that goes bad.
true.
I can't say that I remember noticing any behaviour that indicated
he was trolling.
nor i.
i was just
On Sat, Nov 30, 2013 at 01:32:11AM +1030, Tim wrote:
Allegedly, on or about 28 November 2013, g sent:
let out one point.
if you will note;
X-Mailer: GMX.com Web Mailer
is also a thread breaker.
I think that one may just be due to a bad webmail client. Some of them
are just
On 29/11/13 14:18, Robert Holtzman wrote:
Continually asking questions that can be answered with a simple web
search qualifies as trolling, especially when he's been repeatedly
admonished about it. He also is polluting at least 2 other lists
asking the same sort of questions. He's posted under
hello bob,
On 11/29/2013 01:35 PM, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote:
I don't know about deficient but it certainly appears to be a mental
aberration of some kind and this thread probably provides the
recognition he was looking for.
you are 100% dead on.
as i said in another post,
On 11/29/2013 2:35 PM, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote:
On 29/11/13 14:18, Robert Holtzman wrote:
Continually asking questions that can be answered with a simple web
search qualifies as trolling, especially when he's been repeatedly
admonished about it. He also is polluting at least 2
On 29.11.2013 21:10, David wrote:
Ya'll have seen the AP is gone yet the thread goes on and on? :-)
LoL!
Bee awesome.:!
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Tim:
Yet, when I do that with gmail (reply to a message through the web
interface), it works with proper headers.
g:
that is interesting.
you have not done so regarding this Subject:.
Because I have a bit more respect for the list than sending a mass of
test emails through it when it's not
Allegedly, on or about 27 November 2013, David sent:
As I said... Me - The ordinary user that uses an Email Client has no
problems with what AP and Gmail is/are doing. His posts, for me fall
in the proper place in the thread(s) on this list.
So that means?? Maybe you 'Linux geeks' with your
Allegedly, on or about 28 November 2013, Roger sent:
I haven't been following this discussion thread closely of late but
would like to understand how and what emails, clients, headers, gmail
and faults or not with browsers has to do with Why some say rpm
hell. I seem to have missed a step.
On 28 November 2013 09:29, Tim ignored_mail...@yahoo.com.au wrote:
Allegedly, on or about 28 November 2013, Roger sent:
I haven't been following this discussion thread closely of late but
would like to understand how and what emails, clients, headers, gmail
and faults or not with browsers has
On Thu, Nov 28, 2013 at 10:31 AM, poma pomidorabelis...@gmail.com wrote:
http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2013/11/msg01470.html
This dude is obviously a spammer, and for you dgboles it seems to be a
rather enjoyable.
Good to know.
So what? You can ask in different places to know the
On Thu, Nov 28, 2013 at 5:50 AM, Tim ignored_mail...@yahoo.com.au wrote:
And the headers are still missing.
What happens if you don't block scripting while you're doing this?
Enable it before you hit reply, type your reply, then send it.
Scripting!! There is no additional add-on
On Thu, Nov 28, 2013 at 4:20 PM, Ian Malone ibmal...@gmail.com wrote:
Deliberate or not, it was at least interesting. If using a separate
client it can be quite easy, but that normally leaves a more apparent
This mail really did the exact the same break of thread and appears in
my Inbox as a
On 11-27-13 23:15:12 David wrote:
You are searching for errors? Perhaps I said that incorrectly. AP's
messages, and those of everyone that I have seen that have replied
to his original post, thread correctly. For me.
This is a function of the mail reader client. I use Kmail and this
list is
On 11/28/2013 02:35 PM, Garry T. Williams wrote:
Without the proper headers, correct threading is impossible. My
client approximates it.
this is true.
Your client is doing the same thing -- approximating threading.
it may well be true and is why i asked david to post what settings
he
Allegedly, on or about 28 November 2013, Ian Malone sent:
It turns out if you use the 'edit subject' option gmail drops the
references and in-reply-to (even if you don't actually edit the
subject).
I didn't even know how you would do that with gmail (nor do I
particularly care), though I
On 11/28/2013 06:22 PM, Tim wrote:
Allegedly, on or about 28 November 2013, Ian Malone sent:
It turns out if you use the 'edit subject' option gmail drops the
references and in-reply-to (even if you don't actually edit the
subject).
I didn't even know how you would do that with gmail (nor
*oops*
let out one point.
if you will note;
Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2013 18:18:08 +0100
From: Patrick Dupre pdu...@gmx.com
Message-ID: 20131127171808.119...@gmx.com
MIME-Version: 1.0
Subject: RE: evince
X-Mailer: GMX.com Web Mailer
is also a thread breaker.
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peace out.
in a world with
On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 2:05 AM, Garry T. Williams gtwilli...@gmail.com wrote:
As to why this guy among all the others here is posting broken
messages, I am betting g is correct.
Man, you bet without any guarantee! There seems no logic. Asking
questions and gaining from user's experiences
On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 12:14 AM, Tim ignored_mail...@yahoo.com.au wrote:
It's still missing the headers. Give the other browser a try, and we'll
see if that change things. Likewise, you could try changing some of the
privacy settings.
Well, I am replying from Opera browser right now.
On 27 November 2013 16:59, AP worldwithoutfen...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 12:14 AM, Tim ignored_mail...@yahoo.com.au wrote:
It's still missing the headers. Give the other browser a try, and we'll
see if that change things. Likewise, you could try changing some of the
privacy
On Thu, Nov 28, 2013 at 12:04 AM, Ian Malone ibmal...@gmail.com wrote:
I think this is the right attitude, adblock, noscript etc. are things
you use to protect you online, not for protection of your emails. E.g.
it's your gmail account rather than the emails you're sending with it
that you
On 11/27/2013 11:59 AM, AP wrote:
On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 12:14 AM, Tim ignored_mail...@yahoo.com.au wrote:
It's still missing the headers. Give the other browser a try, and we'll
see if that change things. Likewise, you could try changing some of the
privacy settings.
Well, I am
On Thu, Nov 28, 2013 at 12:23 AM, David dgbo...@gmail.com wrote:
https://www.box.com/shared/78msc32ktf0k6oed51wq
Almost everything is technical
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On Thu, Nov 28, 2013 at 12:23 AM, David dgbo...@gmail.com wrote:
Frankly I find it hard to comprehend just how the browser and any of
it's settings, would have any interaction with an email written on the
Gmail Web interface, or any email interface.
I wonder to think this but I never earlier
contains;
Message-ID:
cahbplrmo15wosvb+wb9ip1u6zm2uqpetqpyaq1anw3op8ka...@mail.gmail.com
where as tim's header is;
Message-ID: 1385491466.5318.8.ca...@paralytic.lan.cameratim.com
Subject: Re: Why some say rpm hell
From: Tim ignored_mail...@yahoo.com.au
To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org
On 27 November 2013 19:01, AP worldwithoutfen...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Nov 28, 2013 at 12:23 AM, David dgbo...@gmail.com wrote:
Frankly I find it hard to comprehend just how the browser and any of
it's settings, would have any interaction with an email written on the
Gmail Web interface,
Allegedly, on or about 27 November 2013, AP sent:
Well, I am replying from Opera browser right now.
And the headers are still missing.
What happens if you don't block scripting while you're doing this?
Enable it before you hit reply, type your reply, then send it.
My thinking reckons that if
Allegedly, on or about 27 November 2013, g sent:
it is not a fault of browser, it is a fault with gmail when using
web browser to reply to threaded post.
Yet, when I do that with gmail (reply to a message through the web
interface), it works with proper headers.
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Allegedly, on or about 27 November 2013, Ian Malone sent:
I'm wondering though if it's related to the fact your posts are
base64 encoded.
The method of encoding the message body really shouldn't affect headers.
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Linux 3.8.13-100.fc17.x86_64 #1 SMP Mon May 13
On 11/27/2013 06:20 PM, Tim wrote:
Allegedly, on or about 27 November 2013, g sent:
it is not a fault of browser, it is a fault with gmail when using
web browser to reply to threaded post.
Yet, when I do that with gmail (reply to a message through the web
interface), it works with proper
On 11/27/2013 06:20 PM, Tim wrote:
Allegedly, on or about 27 November 2013, AP sent:
Well, I am replying from Opera browser right now.
And the headers are still missing.
What happens if you don't block scripting while you're doing this?
Enable it before you hit reply, type your reply, then
On 11/27/2013 06:20 PM, Tim wrote:
Allegedly, on or about 27 November 2013, Ian Malone sent:
I'm wondering though if it's related to the fact your posts are
base64 encoded.
The method of encoding the message body really shouldn't affect
headers.
actually, the base64 is done by the
browser to reply to threaded post.
ap's header only contains;
Message-ID:
cahbplrmo15wosvb+wb9ip1u6zm2uqpetqpyaq1anw3op8ka...@mail.gmail.com
where as tim's header is;
Message-ID: 1385491466.5318.8.ca...@paralytic.lan.cameratim.com
Subject: Re: Why some say rpm hell
From: Tim
: Re: Why some say rpm hell
From: Tim ignored_mail...@yahoo.com.au
To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2013 05:14:26 +1030
In-Reply-To:
cahbplrptd+offbnwqkvll4cjdklwris6ayhp_uvshg8ql0t...@mail.gmail.com
References:
cahbplrptd+offbnwqkvll4cjdklwris6ayhp_uvshg8ql0t
On 11/27/2013 08:02 PM, David wrote:
As I said... Me - The ordinary user that uses an Email Client has
no problems with what AP and Gmail is/are doing. His posts, for
me fall in the proper place in the thread(s) on this list.
and you use thread(s), indicating possible plural?
so just
On 11/27/2013 9:54 PM, g wrote:
On 11/27/2013 08:02 PM, David wrote:
As I said... Me - The ordinary user that uses an Email Client has
no problems with what AP and Gmail is/are doing. His posts, for
me fall in the proper place in the thread(s) on this list.
and you use thread(s),
On 28.11.2013 03:02, David wrote:
As I said... Me - The ordinary user that uses an Email Client has no
problems with what AP and Gmail is/are doing. His posts, for me fall in
the proper place in the thread(s) on this list.
So that means?? Maybe you 'Linux geeks' with your 'fancy Linux Geek
On 11/28/2013 12:01 AM, poma wrote:
On 28.11.2013 03:02, David wrote:
As I said... Me - The ordinary user that uses an Email Client has no
problems with what AP and Gmail is/are doing. His posts, for me fall in
the proper place in the thread(s) on this list.
So that means?? Maybe you
On 11/27/2013 11:01 PM, poma wrote:
http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2013/11/msg01470.html
This dude is obviously a spammer, and for you dgboles it seems to
be a rather enjoyable.
Good to know.
i believe i would call him a 'troller' more so than a 'spammer'.
any one interested, have
On 11/27/2013 10:15 PM, David wrote:
On 11/27/2013 9:54 PM, g wrote:
so just what do you have selected under;
View Sort by and View Threads ?
You are searching for errors?
no.
Perhaps I said that incorrectly. AP's
messages, and those of everyone that I have seen that have replied
Tim:
What happens when you break mail, in one way or another: Your
replies are not seen with the messages that they're related to.
They get missed, they get overlooked. It gets very hard to follow
an ongoing thread...
AP:
Well, I agree but I simply reply in Firefox and by typing
On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 8:13 PM, Tim ignored_mail...@yahoo.com.au wrote:
Are you running some extra privacy options in your browser or gmail?
Are you actually using the reply function, or are you mistakenly
forwarding?
I am using extra privacy options in the Firefox but not in Opera.
On 26 November 2013 15:41, AP worldwithoutfen...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 8:13 PM, Tim ignored_mail...@yahoo.com.au wrote:
Are you running some extra privacy options in your browser or gmail?
Are you actually using the reply function, or are you mistakenly
forwarding?
I am
On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 10:26 PM, Ian Malone ibmal...@gmail.com wrote:
(I think, google do tend to change things).
Yes.
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Allegedly, on or about 26 November 2013, AP sent:
I am using extra privacy options in the Firefox but not in Opera.
Sometimes I use Opera also and other times Firefox. In Firefox, I am
using the addons like NoScript, AdBlock Plus and Better Privacy.
It's still missing the headers. Give the
On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 5:54 AM, Tim ignored_mail...@yahoo.com.au wrote:
What happens when you break mail, in one way or another: Your replies
are not seen with the messages that they're related to. They get
missed, they get overlooked. It gets very hard to follow an ongoing
thread when
Allegedly, on or about 23 November 2013, g sent:
i have a gmail account for other purposes that i pull in emails
from because some of them i want to reply to and save.
also, i found that as only way to maintain threads.
your postings thread and i am wondering you would post a new
Subject:
On Sun, Nov 24, 2013 at 6:50 PM, Tim ignored_mail...@yahoo.com.au wrote:
It doesn't require gmail to get messages threaded. Threading is done by
the message headers, each message has its own message ID, each reply has
another header saying which message ID it's in reply to, and there's
On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 10:32 PM, Beartooth bearto...@comcast.net wrote:
Say you want Opera on an old machine that you haven't used for
some time. You go to a browser it does have, but for some reason the
default opera.com offers isn't what you want. You find what you do want,
and
On 11/23/2013 09:13 AM, Fernando Cassia wrote:
On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 10:45 AM, Fulko Hew fulko@gmail.com
mailto:fulko@gmail.com wrote:
Can you post some instructions ? (for getting GMail usable again
after New Compose)
Get UAControl from here:
On Sun, Nov 24, 2013 at 1:20 PM, Tim ignored_mail...@yahoo.com.au wrote:
To see messages in their properly threaded order, one needs to use a
mail client that isn't broken in that regard (Evolution, Thunderbird,
and many others work), and pick the option that threads messages in the
message
Tim:
It doesn't require gmail to get messages threaded. Threading is done by
the message headers, each message has its own message ID, each reply has
another header saying which message ID it's in reply to, and there's
another header listing all the message IDs that belong in the same
On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 1:29 PM, Fernando Cassia fcas...@gmail.com wrote:
I for one use GMail for my email needs, and I'm as far from an e-mail noob
as you can get (started with Delphi on-line service in the late 1980s, then
moved to FidoNet style echomail boards, then moved to CompuServe,
On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 5:53 AM, AP worldwithoutfen...@gmail.com wrote:
And with one account, you have entire Google from Youtube to Plus
etc..etc..
That's one thing I don't like, actually. Google is now constantly annoying
me to select which profile I use, after pestering me for months to
On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 2:39 PM, Fernando Cassia fcas...@gmail.com wrote:
That's one thing I don't like, actually. Google is now constantly annoying
me to select which profile I use, after pestering me for months to get a
Unified login, I said I don't want, (repeatedly) so now I have separate
Tim:
Going for the truly surreal analogy, were you? ;-)
Chris Murphy:
Not really.
Surely, you couldn't have been anything but surreal... (With the
driver's seat on the luggage rack or in the trunk.)
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2.6.27.25-78.2.56.fc9.i686
Don't send private replies to my
On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 2:59 AM, Fernando Cassia fcas...@gmail.com wrote:
... snip ...
Of course this isn't optimal, there are some downsides:
1. Gurgle has been fiddling with the user interface too much (if it ain't
broke don't fix it, they' ve heard of it...)
2. The new GMail compose is
On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 10:45 AM, Fulko Hew fulko@gmail.com wrote:
Can you post some instructions ? (for getting GMail usable again after
New Compose)
Get UAControl from here:
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/uacontrol/
Once installed, Go to Tools-UAControl Options
Click
On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 10:45 AM, Fulko Hew fulko@gmail.com wrote:
Can you post some instructions ?
Just posted it in a separate thread to stop hijacking this one. :)
Cheers!
FC
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On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 9:13 AM, Fernando Cassia fcas...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 10:45 AM, Fulko Hew fulko@gmail.com wrote:
Can you post some instructions ? (for getting GMail usable again after
New Compose)
... snip ...
That will give you Old Compose
THANK YOU!
On 11/22/2013 02:41 PM, Robert Holtzman wrote:
Pot meet kettle.
by considering source, there is no pot or kettle.
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On 11/22/2013 01:40 PM, Paul W. Frields wrote:
I think g was trying to make peace and you may have misunderstood
his comments.
this is true.
Please, let's be polite to each other and not insulting.
+1 on polite.
as for finding his comments as impolite or insulting, i just consider
On 11/23/2013 01:35 AM, AP wrote:
On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 1:10 AM, Paul W. Frields
sticks...@gmail.com wrote:
I think g was trying to make peace and you may have
misunderstood his comments. Please, let's be polite to each other
and not insulting.
My intention was not to handle someone
On 11/23/2013 01:59 AM, Fernando Cassia wrote:
GMail serves me (and I guess most other people) because:
i have a gmail account for other purposes that i pull in emails
from because some of them i want to reply to and save.
also, i found that as only way to maintain threads.
your postings
On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 9:02 PM, g gel...@bellsouth.net wrote:
On 11/23/2013 01:59 AM, Fernando Cassia wrote:
your postings thread and i am wondering you would post a new
Subject: relating to how you are using a gmail account and
still maintain threading.
No, not like that. Read the
On Thu, 21 Nov 2013 17:01:24 +, Tethys wrote:
On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 4:51 PM, Greg Woods wo...@ucar.edu wrote:
[]so rpm hell is largely a thing of the past.
Sort of. RPM was a victim of its own success. Because Red Hat was the
leading distribution, it was the one that attracted
On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 1:16 PM, Heinz Diehl h...@fritha.org wrote:
Better/equal in precisely what?
Well, now got the idea that work is being done very well in rpm
distributions, so actually what I earlier asked, should not be asked.
Anyways, I liked the rpm because at least all of my (noob's)
hello ap.
On 11/21/2013 10:33 AM, AP wrote:
On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 9:16 PM, Mihamina RKTMB miham...@rktmb.org
wrote:
Technically, - making rpms are easier than making debs.
Oh, okay.
- apt is NOT the equivalent of rpm, but the equivalent of yum
Okay, I must have used that.
- You
On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 8:21 PM, g gel...@bellsouth.net wrote:
[crap]
as in usage as a _noun_, which is defined at;
This is really shameful to have people like you..
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On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 08:46:07PM +0530, AP wrote:
On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 8:21 PM, g gel...@bellsouth.net wrote:
[crap]
as in usage as a _noun_, which is defined at;
This is really shameful to have people like you..
I think g was trying to make peace and you may have misunderstood
his
Whenever you go outside the distribution and start picking up packages,
be they .deb or .rpm, you invite trouble with dependencies, especially if
those packages are not built for your particular release.
Both Fedora and Debian/Ubuntu have very large repositories, and for Fedora,
RPM Fusion is
On Nov 22, 2013, at 2:01 AM, AP worldwithoutfen...@gmail.com wrote:
Exactly true. Its more like the analogy of cars. Some people prefer
Ford, some Chevrolet, others like Mercedes-Benz better, but ultimately
they all have an engine that runs on fuel.
A better analogy that involves cars needs
On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 08:46:07PM +0530, AP wrote:
On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 8:21 PM, g gel...@bellsouth.net wrote:
[crap]
as in usage as a _noun_, which is defined at;
This is really shameful to have people like you..
Pot meet kettle.
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Allegedly, on or about 22 November 2013, Chris Murphy sent:
A better analogy that involves cars needs some additional detail:
Different automakers put the driver's seat in different locations.
Mercedes right front, Ford right rear, Chevy on the luggage rack,
Jaguar in the trunk, etc.
Going
On Nov 22, 2013, at 2:22 PM, Tim ignored_mail...@yahoo.com.au wrote:
Allegedly, on or about 22 November 2013, Chris Murphy sent:
A better analogy that involves cars needs some additional detail:
Different automakers put the driver's seat in different locations.
Mercedes right front, Ford
On 11/22/2013 01:41 PM, Chris Murphy wrote:
Not really. Do you think you can functionally operate any package installer
without reading its manual, once you've learned any other package manager?
That depends. Are you referring to the CLI or the GUI version?
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On Nov 22, 2013, at 2:59 PM, Joe Zeff j...@zeff.us wrote:
On 11/22/2013 01:41 PM, Chris Murphy wrote:
Not really. Do you think you can functionally operate any package installer
without reading its manual, once you've learned any other package manager?
That depends. Are you referring to
On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 1:10 AM, Paul W. Frields sticks...@gmail.com wrote:
I think g was trying to make peace and you may have misunderstood
his comments. Please, let's be polite to each other and not
insulting.
My intention was not to handle someone with gloves but I don't
understand why
On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 1:30 AM, Steven Rosenberg
stevenhrosenb...@gmail.com wrote:
Whenever you go outside the distribution and start picking up packages, be
they .deb or .rpm, you invite trouble with dependencies, especially if those
packages are not built for your particular release.
Okay
On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 1:50 AM, Chris Murphy li...@colorremedies.com wrote:
Exactly true. Its more like the analogy of cars. Some people prefer
Ford, some Chevrolet, others like Mercedes-Benz better, but ultimately
they all have an engine that runs on fuel.
A better analogy that involves
On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 11:51 AM, g gel...@bellsouth.net wrote:
such as, my self, i consider that you are of less experienced in
using an email client, such as, thunderbird, and posting to list
via gmail account.
*cough* *cough*
The above statement is both absurd and hillarious at the same
On Thu, 2013-11-21 at 20:59 +0530, AP wrote:
Well I just heard a couple of guys saying rpm hell.
Probably a reference to the very early days of RPM (pre-yum). You'd
install a package, then find some library was missing and go to install
that, which led to something else missing, etc. A few
On 11/21/2013 06:41 PM, AP wrote:
On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 9:06 PM, Heinz Diehl h...@fritha.org wrote:
What precisely are you asking for?
Just wanted to know if rpm is better than apt or vice-versa or both
are equal...or why did this bifurcation took place if the Linux is
only the kernel...?
On 21.11.2013, AP wrote:
Well I just heard a couple of guys saying rpm hell.
Now a days, when rpm works very well, still does it lag behind apt in
some ways...?
What precisely are you asking for?
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On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 9:06 PM, Heinz Diehl h...@fritha.org wrote:
What precisely are you asking for?
Just wanted to know if rpm is better than apt or vice-versa or both
are equal...or why did this bifurcation took place if the Linux is
only the kernel...?
Thanks.
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On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 4:51 PM, Greg Woods wo...@ucar.edu wrote:
Probably a reference to the very early days of RPM (pre-yum). You'd
install a package, then find some library was missing and go to install
that, which led to something else missing, etc. A few cycles of this and
you know what
On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 10:21 PM, Greg Woods wo...@ucar.edu wrote:
Probably a reference to the very early days of RPM (pre-yum). You'd
install a package, then find some library was missing and go to install
that, which led to something else missing, etc. A few cycles of this and
you know what
On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 9:08 PM, Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak
m...@avtechpulse.com wrote:
yum didn't always exist. yum handles the dependencies between packages.
Ok.
Before that, a lot of prayer was involved if you mixed rpm packages from
different sources.
You mean from third party sources.
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On 11/21/2013 10:29 AM, AP wrote:
Well I just heard a couple of guys saying rpm hell.
Now a days, when rpm works very well, still does it lag behind apt in
some ways...?
yum didn't always exist. yum handles the dependencies between packages.
Before that, a lot of prayer was involved if you
On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 9:16 PM, Mihamina RKTMB miham...@rktmb.org wrote:
Technically,
- making rpms are easier than making debs.
Oh, okay.
- apt is NOT the equivalent of rpm, but the equivalent of yum
Okay, I must have used that.
- You forgot the package management of Gentoo, Arch and so
On 21.11.2013, AP wrote:
Just wanted to know if rpm is better than apt or vice-versa or both
are equal
Better/equal in precisely what?
...or why did this bifurcation took place if the Linux is only the kernel...?
Because there are different distributions which all think that their
own
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