On 01/02/2014 12:12 AM, David wrote:
Good luck and have fun. Like I said*I* started with Gmail. That filters
the emails*before* they get downloaded to my email client.
Yes but GMail *also* filters before your filters. So, you dont know what
is filtered (as you dont receive it), wether it's
On Thu, 02 Jan 2014 15:32:49 +0300
Mihamina Rakotomandimby miham...@rktmb.org wrote:
On 01/02/2014 12:12 AM, David wrote:
Good luck and have fun. Like I said*I* started with Gmail. That
filters the emails*before* they get downloaded to my email client.
Yes but GMail *also* filters
On 1/2/2014 7:32 AM, Mihamina Rakotomandimby wrote:
On 01/02/2014 12:12 AM, David wrote:
Good luck and have fun. Like I said *I* started with Gmail. That filters
the emails *before* they get downloaded to my email client.
Yes but GMail *also* filters before your filters. So, you dont know
On 01/02/2014 05:32 PM, David wrote:
The emails marked as spam by Gmail are stored in the 'spam folder'
aces sable from your account
Can you assume Google stores *all* the messages your are recipient in
the SPAM folder? With 0 messages discarded?
I wouldn't.
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On 1/2/2014 9:36 AM, Mihamina Rakotomandimby wrote:
On 01/02/2014 05:32 PM, David wrote:
The emails marked as spam by Gmail are stored in the 'spam folder'
aces sable from your account
Can you assume Google stores *all* the messages your are recipient in
the SPAM folder? With 0 messages
On 12/30/2013 04:07 PM, David wrote:
On 12/30/2013 4:00 PM, Eddie G. O'Connor wrote:
On 12/30/2013 08:48 AM, Tim wrote:
Allegedly, on or about 30 December 2013, Mihamina Rakotomandimby sent:
SPAM is very subjective.
I saw users subscribing to several newsletters for an event (say XMas)
and
On 1/1/2014 1:31 PM, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote:
On 12/30/2013 04:07 PM, David wrote:
I have it on...and I would hope its working...but its just seems to me
that a LOT of spam is getting inI dunno. I think I will be looking
into Spam Assassin for TB,...and will be customizing my Message
On Wed, Jan 01, 2014 at 02:06:41PM -0500, David wrote:
Like all spam filters, that I know of, you have to train it. You have to
mark emails as spam that you consider spam.
Yep.
Spam Assassin would be the same way I would think. I do not know of any
spam filter program that already knows what
On 01/01/2014 02:06 PM, David wrote:
On 1/1/2014 1:31 PM, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote:
On 12/30/2013 04:07 PM, David wrote:
I have it on...and I would hope its working...but its just seems to me
that a LOT of spam is getting inI dunno. I think I will be looking
into Spam Assassin for
On 1/1/2014 2:36 PM, Dave Ihnat wrote:
On Wed, Jan 01, 2014 at 02:06:41PM -0500, David wrote:
Like all spam filters, that I know of, you have to train it. You have to
mark emails as spam that you consider spam.
Yep.
Spam Assassin would be the same way I would think. I do not know of any
On 1/1/2014 3:50 PM, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote:
On 01/01/2014 02:06 PM, David wrote:
On 1/1/2014 1:31 PM, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote:
On 12/30/2013 04:07 PM, David wrote:
I have it on...and I would hope its working...but its just seems to me
that a LOT of spam is getting inI dunno. I
On 01/01/14 15:50, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote:
Well thank you all for your input...I've gotten Spam Assassin
installedand now I'm going to play with it to see just how precise
I ca get itI'll start off with the obvious
stuff..(viagra.online pharmacy..erroneous dating sites,
On 28.12.2013 06:06, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote:
Hello you Ferdorans! (FedorIANS?...) I have a question,.nowwe
all know that there's ways to block unwanted email from your system
using Message Filters, and they work by blocking a certain domain or
email address and prevent them
On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 04:00:02PM -0500, Eddie G. O'Connor wrote:
On 12/30/2013 08:48 AM, Tim wrote:
Allegedly, on or about 30 December 2013, Mihamina Rakotomandimby sent:
SPAM is very subjective.
I saw users subscribing to several newsletters for an event (say XMas)
and then in February
On Tue, Dec 31, 2013 at 05:16:58PM +1030, Tim wrote:
Allegedly, on or about 30 December 2013, Eddie G. O'Connor sent:
I swear if EVER I find the person who invented spam?...I'm gonna hit
him with a whiffle-ball bat! LOL!
And we'll be cheering, too.
On a whim, I once googled spammer
Allegedly, on or about 29 December 2013, Dave Ihnat sent:
It sounds to me like you don't care for anti-spam solutions, and as
such have never really investigated the viable options. I can
understand your sentiments, but don't agree with your conclusions.
It's your choice, and I respect that.
Allegedly, on or about 29 December 2013, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. sent:
this is all fascinating to me. I'm not using a mail server, just
trying to keep the size of my Inbox down, since the more spam it gets
the fatter it gets as wellI will be looking into all possibilities
regarding this
Allegedly, on or about 30 December 2013, Mihamina Rakotomandimby sent:
SPAM is very subjective.
I saw users subscribing to several newsletters for an event (say XMas)
and then in February they're too lazy to cleanly unsubscribe: they
just tag the message as SPAM, and they argue it's SPAM
On 12/30/2013 12:54 AM, Mihamina Rakotomandimby wrote:
On 12/28/2013 08:13 PM, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote:
I literally spent a whole hour and a half ...JUST adding email
addresses to the Block list...
Do you know that a big ratio of SPAM are with forged sender address?
Just try it in
On Mon, 2013-12-30 at 13:30 -0500, Eddie G. O'Connor wrote:
I swear if EVER I find the person who invented spam?...I'm gonna hit
him with a whiffle-ball bat! LOL!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laurence_Canter_and_Martha_Siegel
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On 12/30/2013 08:48 AM, Tim wrote:
Allegedly, on or about 30 December 2013, Mihamina Rakotomandimby sent:
SPAM is very subjective.
I saw users subscribing to several newsletters for an event (say XMas)
and then in February they're too lazy to cleanly unsubscribe: they
just tag the message as
On 12/30/2013 4:00 PM, Eddie G. O'Connor wrote:
On 12/30/2013 08:48 AM, Tim wrote:
Allegedly, on or about 30 December 2013, Mihamina Rakotomandimby sent:
SPAM is very subjective.
I saw users subscribing to several newsletters for an event (say XMas)
and then in February they're too lazy to
Allegedly, on or about 30 December 2013, Eddie G. O'Connor sent:
Every mailing list I've joined I have a genuine interest in, or it's a
hobby of mine..(PremierGuitar.com.GuitarFetish.com...etc) I see no
real way that my email address got out TO the people who are using it
as a spam
Allegedly, on or about 30 December 2013, Eddie G. O'Connor sent:
I swear if EVER I find the person who invented spam?...I'm gonna hit
him with a whiffle-ball bat! LOL!
And we'll be cheering, too.
On a whim, I once googled spammer beaten up, and read an amusing story
about a ten minute fist
On 29.12.2013, Tim wrote:
I've always considered having to check your spam for false positives to
make having anti-spam filtering a waste of time.
It depends. I've been receiving about 30 spam emails daily, on
average. A quick look into my spam-folder is enough to check if any
serious email
Tim:
I've always considered having to check your spam for false positives to
make having anti-spam filtering a waste of time.
Heinz Diehl:
It depends. I've been receiving about 30 spam emails daily, on
average. A quick look into my spam-folder is enough to check if any
serious email
On 12/29/2013 3:29 AM, Heinz Diehl wrote:
On 29.12.2013, Tim wrote:
I've always considered having to check your spam for false positives to
make having anti-spam filtering a waste of time.
It depends. I've been receiving about 30 spam emails daily, on
average. A quick look into my
On Sun, Dec 29, 2013 at 03:58:12AM -0500, David wrote:
Wow! 30 per day? Just wow! You must have a spam magnet or something. :-)
I use seven different accounts regularly and I don't get 20 in a month.
Heh. Some people change accounts to get away from spam. I've used
the same couple of
On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 01:41:40AM +1030, Tim wrote:
But you don't trust it enough, not to check...
Even as good as my SA rules are, I check on a spot basis.
If I had to check up on it, I don't consider it trustworthy.
Again I'll say--no matter how good any anti-spam software is, there
will
On 29.12.2013, Tim wrote:
[CRM-114..]
But you don't trust it enough, not to check...
No. Because email loss is strictly not acceptable. I always check back
manually. CRM-114, once trained, is pretty good, and it takes no more
than 10-15 secs to see if there's real email amongst all the spam.
On Sun, 2013-12-29 at 08:49 +1030, Tim wrote:
I've always considered having to check your spam for false positives to
make having anti-spam filtering a waste of time.
I don't think so. The spam filtering system we use at work (based on
SpamAssassin with a web interface to view suspected spam)
On 12/28/2013 01:12 PM, Richard Vickery wrote:
On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 10:23 AM, Steven Stern
subscribed-li...@sterndata.com mailto:subscribed-li...@sterndata.com
wrote:
On 12/28/2013 11:32 AM, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote:
On 28/12/13 12:13, Eddie G.
On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 01:41:40AM +1030, Tim wrote:
Tim:
I've always considered having to check your spam for false positives to
make having anti-spam filtering a waste of time.
Heinz Diehl:
It depends. I've been receiving about 30 spam emails daily, on
average. A quick look into my
On Sun, Dec 29, 2013 at 10:16:19AM -0600, Dave Ihnat wrote:
snip...
It's not uncommon for SpamAssassin to catch 400-700 a *day*. When really
bad new campaigns start up, sometimes it can go over a thousand. Usually,
only 5-10 get through, whereupon I feed 'em to
Tim:
If I had to check up on it, I don't consider it trustworthy.
Dave Ihnat:
Again I'll say--no matter how good any anti-spam software is, there
will ALWAYS be false positives. So on that basis, you don't like any
of it?
If I have to double-check, what's the point of it? Seriously! How
Tim:
If I had to check up on it, I don't consider it trustworthy.
Robert Holtzman:
You don't entertain the possibility that not all spam filters are 100%
correct or that no software is 100% reliable, given the fact that it's
all developed by humans, none of whom are 100% infallible?
I don't
On 12/29/2013 07:37 PM, Tim wrote:
In the past, I've emailed friends, and my first or second posting has
gone into their spam bucket, without them doing anything about it.
I have a friend who's email service sporadically bounces my email. Why?
Because I own my own domain, I use my hosting
On 12/29/2013 10:53 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
On 12/29/2013 07:37 PM, Tim wrote:
In the past, I've emailed friends, and my first or second posting has
gone into their spam bucket, without them doing anything about it.
I have a friend who's email service sporadically bounces my email.
Why?
On Sun, Dec 29, 2013 at 02:25:41PM -0700, Robert Holtzman wrote:
Doesn't your ISP have spam filters or are you the ISP?
Effectively, I am. I run my own mail server, and just use my ISP as a
pipe.
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On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 01:57:52PM +1030, Tim wrote:
If I have to double-check, what's the point of it? Seriously! How
different is that than just hitting delete on the way through reading
your mail?
Nothing--if you've only, say, 10 messages. If you're talking about dozens
or hundreds, it
On Sun, Dec 29, 2013 at 07:53:53PM -0800, Joe Zeff wrote:
I have a friend who's email service sporadically bounces my email.
Why? Because I own my own domain, I use my hosting company's email
servers instead of my ISP's and a small number of their customers
are spammers. Whenever their spam
On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 03:59:47PM +1100, Roger wrote:
I don't know if this may help but there is another possibility.
Much of my Inbox spam/annoying garbage emails used similar words
such as ...
True. But...
I set up 3 filters, ...
You're reinventing. Spamassassin has provision for all
On 12/28/2013 08:13 PM, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote:
I literally spent a whole hour and a half ...JUST adding email
addresses to the Block list...
Do you know that a big ratio of SPAM are with forged sender address?
Just try it in Thunderbird: manage identities, add, and setup a fake sender.
On 12/28/2013 08:32 PM, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote:
That's strange, all my mail comes through gmail and I rarely see any
spam unless I go in and look at what they've filtered out. I only use
Thunderbird filters to sort messages into categories/directories.
SPAM is very
On 12/28/2013 06:06 AM, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote:
Hello you Ferdorans! (FedorIANS?...) I have a question,.nowwe
all know that there's ways to block unwanted email from your system
using Message Filters, and they work by blocking a certain domain or
email address and prevent them
On 12/28/2013 04:29 AM, Joachim Backes wrote:
On 12/28/2013 06:06 AM, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote:
Hello you Ferdorans! (FedorIANS?...) I have a question,.nowwe
all know that there's ways to block unwanted email from your system
using Message Filters, and they work by blocking a certain
On 28/12/13 12:13, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote:
Yes Joachim this is EXACTLY what I was looking for!..Thank you so
much! My Inbox seems to be growing every day with more and more spam.
I literally spent a whole hour and a half ...JUST adding email
addresses to the Block list...and now that
On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 12:13:24PM -0500, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote:
...snip..
Yes Joachim this is EXACTLY what I was looking for!..Thank you so
much! My Inbox seems to be growing every day with more and more
spam. I literally spent a whole hour and a half ...JUST adding
On 12/28/2013 11:32 AM, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote:
On 28/12/13 12:13, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote:
Yes Joachim this is EXACTLY what I was looking for!..Thank you so
much! My Inbox seems to be growing every day with more and more spam.
I literally spent a whole hour and a half
On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 10:23 AM, Steven Stern
subscribed-li...@sterndata.com wrote:
On 12/28/2013 11:32 AM, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote:
On 28/12/13 12:13, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote:
Yes Joachim this is EXACTLY what I was looking for!..Thank you so
much! My Inbox seems
On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 11:12:24AM -0800, Richard Vickery wrote:
I wonder what Google's secret is?
Most likely, a heavily customized version of SpamAssassin. Or if not
specifically SA, some other Baysean filter.
Which, incidentally, wouldn't be amiss in your own server.
Cheers,
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On 12/28/2013 02:35 PM, Dave Ihnat wrote:
On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 11:12:24AM -0800, Richard Vickery wrote:
I wonder what Google's secret is?
Most likely, a heavily customized version of SpamAssassin. Or if not
specifically SA, some other Baysean filter.
Which, incidentally, wouldn't be amiss
Steven Stern:
I check my Gmail spam folder about once a week to see if it had any
false positives. I gave up running my own mail server as Google does
a much better job.
I've always considered having to check your spam for false positives to
make having anti-spam filtering a waste of time.
On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 03:56:16PM -0500, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote:
Hmmm...maybe I can do with a bit of reading up on Spam
Assassinwonder if there's an Open Source version of it?...
It is already FOSS.
Cheers,
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dih...@dminet.com
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Hello you Ferdorans! (FedorIANS?...) I have a question,.nowwe
all know that there's ways to block unwanted email from your system
using Message Filters, and they work by blocking a certain domain or
email address and prevent them from hitting your Inbox, I would like to
know if anyone
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