Re: Small Home server - HDD/SDD

2014-05-05 Thread Pal, Laszlo (private)
Forget USB stick as OS device as it told by others :) If you want to keep SATA ports, you should add some more either connecting to a low profile pci/pcie card or maybe to use some msata add-on card. It is fast, reliable and not so expensive L: -- users mailing list

Re: Small Home server - HDD/SDD

2014-04-29 Thread Mark Haney
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/28/14 14:11, Javier Perez wrote: Putting your OS onto a 10 GB partition on that drive will take up about 0.5% of its capacity. It will also be much safer than having it on an external drive, especially if it's a flash drive. I know,

Re: Small Home server - HDD/SDD

2014-04-29 Thread Edward M
On 4/29/2014 5:30 AM, Mark Haney wrote: My $0.02. IIRC, I don't think ZFS is supported (or fully supported at any rate) in linux. I just did some research into that and couldn't find anything recent about ZFS support for newer kernels. Granted, I could have just missed it. If you want to use

Small Home server - HDD/SDD

2014-04-28 Thread Javier Perez
HI I have a small home server (photos, videos, music) that is reaching full capacity. It is a 750GB, partitioned as a 50G OS and 700G Data + swap The mobo, an Intel DG31PR mobo has 1 PATA and 4 SATA ports (3GB/s). Currently it is running FC20, having been continuously upgraded from almost

Re: Small Home server - HDD/SDD

2014-04-28 Thread Fred Smith
On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 12:44:02PM -0500, Javier Perez wrote: HI I have a small home server (photos, videos, music) that is reaching full capacity. It is a 750GB, partitioned as a 50G OS and 700G Data + swap The mobo, an Intel DG31PR mobo has 1 PATA and 4 SATA ports

Re: Small Home server - HDD/SDD

2014-04-28 Thread Joe Zeff
On 04/28/2014 10:44 AM, Javier Perez wrote: Is there anything I should know I am not taking into consideration? Putting your OS onto a 10 GB partition on that drive will take up about 0.5% of its capacity. It will also be much safer than having it on an external drive, especially if it's a

Re: Small Home server - HDD/SDD

2014-04-28 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 2:44 PM, Javier Perez pepeb...@gmail.com wrote: 1. I could use ext4 on all HDDs eventually. But I wonder, can I use ZFS? Specially I would like to have the ability to expand the single HDD into a Raid once I get the second HDD as painlessly as possible. If I use ext4 I

Re: Small Home server - HDD/SDD

2014-04-28 Thread Javier Perez
Putting your OS onto a 10 GB partition on that drive will take up about 0.5% of its capacity. It will also be much safer than having it on an external drive, especially if it's a flash drive. I know, but I wanted the famous speed a SSD/flash system is supposed to give for the OS. Specially given

Re: Small Home server - HDD/SDD

2014-04-28 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 04/28/2014 02:11 PM, Javier Perez wrote: Putting your OS onto a 10 GB partition on that drive will take up about 0.5% of its capacity. It will also be much safer than having it on an external drive, especially if it's a flash drive. I know, but I wanted the famous speed a SSD/flash

Re: Small Home server - HDD/SDD

2014-04-28 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 14:02:47 -0400, Fred Smith fre...@fcshome.stoneham.ma.us wrote: though I can't tell you the steps, it is possible to build a raid-1 array using Linux Raid, with only one drive. it'll be in degraded mode because of only one drive, but you could then easily (??) add a

Re: Small Home server - HDD/SDD

2014-04-28 Thread Javier Perez
Hi Robert. The get a 64Gb SSD internal as you primary device and put all data on a secondary drive. If I do that I lose one SATA port out of the 4 that the motherboard has. I want to slowly upgrade it to a Raid 1+0 system, unless there is a better option. Will ZFS on two mirrored HDDs be a

Re: Small Home server - HDD/SDD

2014-04-28 Thread D. Hugh Redelmeier
| From: Joe Zeff j...@zeff.us | On 04/28/2014 10:44 AM, Javier Perez wrote: | | Is there anything I should know I am not taking into consideration? | | Putting your OS onto a 10 GB partition on that drive will take up about 0.5% | of its capacity. It will also be much safer than having it on

Re: Small Home server - HDD/SDD

2014-04-28 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 7:11 PM, Javier Perez pepeb...@gmail.com wrote: Putting your OS onto a 10 GB partition on that drive will take up about 0.5% of its capacity. It will also be much safer than having it on an external drive, especially if it's a flash drive. I know, but I wanted the

Re: Small Home server - HDD/SDD

2014-04-28 Thread D. Hugh Redelmeier
| From: Javier Perez pepeb...@gmail.com | I know, but I wanted the famous speed a SSD/flash system is supposed to | give for the OS. Specially given that it is an old system. I could be wrong, but I think - most USB sticks are quite slow. - USB2 sticks are guaranteed to be slow-ish - USB

Re: Small Home server - HDD/SDD

2014-04-28 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 3:56 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan pocallag...@gmail.com wrote: Also, a USB stick will wear out a lot quicker if it's used as a root filesystem with /tmp. Well, I've been waiting for Samsung F2FS for a long time, but still no boot support AFAIK

Re: Small Home server - HDD/SDD

2014-04-28 Thread Heinz Diehl
On 28.04.2014, Javier Perez wrote: My plan is to put the OS on a USB stick In my experience, that's a bad idea. USB-sticks are not reliable over a longer period, and you can expect data loss. and use the whole 2TB for Data. I'd rather not have a PATA SDD, and I do not want to lose one of

Re: Small Home server - HDD/SDD

2014-04-28 Thread Javier Perez
So ask yourself: in a home server, just what does RAID give me? Are you really bottlenecked for speed in a way that RAID will improve? Perhaps RAID can help with High Availability (and perhaps not) -- is that what you are hoping for? Just don't think of it as backup. -- Hmm, I was looking

Re: Small Home server - HDD/SDD

2014-04-28 Thread Suvayu Ali
On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 03:44:26PM -0500, Javier Perez wrote: So ask yourself: in a home server, just what does RAID give me? Are you really bottlenecked for speed in a way that RAID will improve? Perhaps RAID can help with High Availability (and perhaps not) -- is that what you are hoping

Re: Small Home server - HDD/SDD

2014-04-28 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2014-04-28 at 16:18 -0300, Fernando Cassia wrote: on the rotating drive. Note that a real SSD can go about twice as fast as a SATA 2 port, which is probably what you have on your machine, but it will still be dramatically faster than a USB stick. But there are USB 3.0 sticks