Re: Unexplained temporary freezes in Thunderbird Fedora 13

2010-06-26 Thread Jerry Feldman
On 06/25/2010 02:05 PM, g wrote: Jerry Feldman wrote: snip This weekend I plan on installing the 32-bit version initially with no extensions after further checking. much luck. may your weekend be productive, joy full, and time spent with more pleasurable time than 32 bit thunderbird. :D

Re: Unexplained temporary freezes in Thunderbird Fedora 13

2010-06-26 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sat, 26 Jun 2010 09:52:33 -0400 Jerry Feldman wrote: Preliminary results. I went back and checked every account setting, and I found that I was downloading all iMAP mail That's why I like to run some kind of system monitor app showing me disk, memory, and network activity. That way when

Re: Unexplained temporary freezes in Thunderbird Fedora 13

2010-06-26 Thread g
Jerry Feldman wrote: snip Preliminary results. I went back and checked every account setting, and I found that I was downloading all iMAP mail, and since gmail stores SPAM for 30 days and stores trash forever, the All MAIL folder was huge. sounds like someone forgot to do his 'monthly house

Re: Unexplained temporary freezes in Thunderbird Fedora 13

2010-06-26 Thread Genes MailLists
On 06/26/2010 12:27 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: settings. As you probably know, the way to limit this is via folder subscriptions. Also, I don't download IMAP mail but rather access it online. That depends on your needs of course. TB always downloads if GLODA is on ... best turn it

Re: Unexplained temporary freezes in Thunderbird Fedora 13

2010-06-25 Thread Jerry Feldman
On 06/24/2010 05:21 PM, g wrote: Jerry Feldman wrote: snip My plan over the next few days is to run 64-bit 3.1 from Rawhide with no extensions with ntpd and possibly some other daemons disabled. this will help. there are several daemons that can hog system for brief periods and as long as

Re: Unexplained temporary freezes in Thunderbird Fedora 13

2010-06-25 Thread g
Jerry Feldman wrote: snip This weekend I plan on installing the 32-bit version initially with no extensions after further checking. much luck. may your weekend be productive, joy full, and time spent with more pleasurable time than 32 bit thunderbird. :D later. -- peace out. tc,hago. g

Re: Unexplained temporary freezes in Thunderbird Fedora 13

2010-06-24 Thread Jerry Feldman
On 06/23/2010 05:43 PM, g wrote: snip if Konstantin Svist is running 3.1 without problems, i see no reason that you should not be able to. if you reinstall, install 32 bit so you can get enigmail back. as you are aware of, if you start in safe-mode, extensions are disabled. you did say

Re: Unexplained temporary freezes in Thunderbird Fedora 13

2010-06-23 Thread Jerry Feldman
On 06/23/2010 01:48 AM, g wrote: Konstantin Svist wrote: snip Update: have been running 3.1 for almost a week, and have not noticed any major slowdowns; I think the problem is gone. good to hear. i hope so, maybe you can now give jerry some pointers. ;) Though, to be fair, a

Re: Unexplained temporary freezes in Thunderbird Fedora 13

2010-06-23 Thread Konstantin Svist
On 06/23/2010 10:55 AM, Jerry Feldman wrote: I only have 3 extensions: (1) AdBlock Plus. I had disabled this after I first posted the message. (2) Enigmail. While I did experience the slowdown on 3.1 where there was no enigmail. (3) English Dictionary. Possibly I will reinstall 3.1 and

Re: Unexplained temporary freezes in Thunderbird Fedora 13

2010-06-23 Thread g
Jerry Feldman wrote: snip I only have 3 extensions: (1) AdBlock Plus. I had disabled this after I first posted the message. from adblockplus site; http://adblockplus.org/en/installation it states; Install Adblock Plus 1.2 Minimal requirements: Firefox 3.0.12, Firefox Mobile (Fennec)

Re: Unexplained temporary freezes in Thunderbird Fedora 13

2010-06-22 Thread Jerry Feldman
On 06/21/2010 08:39 PM, g wrote: Jerry Feldman wrote: snip After using 3.1-0.2.rc2.fc14, I found that it also freezes with Thunderbird using 100% of the CPU. what happens if you run 'thunderbird -safe-mode' from command line? did you disable 'auto sort' and other 'auto *'? Because

Re: Unexplained temporary freezes in Thunderbird Fedora 13

2010-06-22 Thread Konstantin Svist
On 06/16/2010 12:41 PM, Konstantin Svist wrote: On 06/16/2010 11:50 AM, g wrote: solutions to your problems have been disabling features to upgrading. because of various problems with 3.0.x versions, an upgrade to 3.1 or higher is better. i know this can be a problem under linux, but

Re: Unexplained temporary freezes in Thunderbird Fedora 13

2010-06-21 Thread g
Jerry Feldman wrote: snip After using 3.1-0.2.rc2.fc14, I found that it also freezes with Thunderbird using 100% of the CPU. what happens if you run 'thunderbird -safe-mode' from command line? did you disable 'auto sort' and other 'auto *'? Because of the lack of enigmail for this version

Re: Unexplained temporary freezes in Thunderbird Fedora 13

2010-06-20 Thread Jerry Feldman
On 06/18/2010 04:30 PM, Jerry Feldman wrote: On 06/14/2010 03:25 PM, Genes MailLists wrote: (2) Try latest 3.1.1.pre from upstream - I have no problems with it (32 bit only fyi) .. So far, after upgrading to 3.1-0.2.rc2.fc14 it seems to be more responsive to mouse clicks and no freezes

Re: Unexplained temporary freezes in Thunderbird Fedora 13

2010-06-20 Thread Nataraj
Jerry Feldman wrote: After using 3.1-0.2.rc2.fc14, I found that it also freezes with Thunderbird using 100% of the CPU. Because of the lack of enigmail for this version (64-bit) I rolled back to 3.0.1. I may install the 32-bit version from the Thunderbird archives. I have eliminated both

Re: Unexplained temporary freezes in Thunderbird Fedora 13

2010-06-19 Thread g
Jerry Feldman wrote: snip So far, after upgrading to 3.1-0.2.rc2.fc14 it seems to be more responsive to mouse clicks and no freezes (but I have not been using it long enough to really measure). maybe it will last. The only thing I would prefer is if there were a verison of enigmail that

Re: Unexplained temporary freezes in Thunderbird Fedora 13

2010-06-18 Thread Jerry Feldman
On 06/14/2010 03:25 PM, Genes MailLists wrote: (2) Try latest 3.1.1.pre from upstream - I have no problems with it (32 bit only fyi) .. So far, after upgrading to 3.1-0.2.rc2.fc14 it seems to be more responsive to mouse clicks and no freezes (but I have not been using it long enough to

Re: Unexplained temporary freezes in Thunderbird Fedora 13

2010-06-17 Thread g
Jerry Feldman wrote: snip Seems pretty stable today. Had a system update yesterday, and didn't reboot until last night. have you tried installing thunderbird from rawhide, or still same version? (Additionally I just had a freeze while typing reboot :-). you boot level 3? do you leave

Re: Unexplained temporary freezes in Thunderbird Fedora 13

2010-06-17 Thread Jim
On 06/17/2010 06:39 PM, g wrote: Jerry Feldman wrote: snip Seems pretty stable today. Had a system update yesterday, and didn't reboot until last night. have you tried installing thunderbird from rawhide, or still same version? (Additionally I just had a freeze while

Re: Unexplained temporary freezes in Thunderbird Fedora 13

2010-06-17 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, 2010-06-17 at 22:55 +, g wrote: Jim wrote: snip I have to leave it open because all the Emails I get from the FedoraUsers Forum, If I left those on my ISP's Server, I would probably be getting nasty notes from my ISP. shutting down desktop is not a good idea, as i

Re: Unexplained temporary freezes in Thunderbird Fedora 13

2010-06-17 Thread g
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: snip Do you have evidence of this? If so, you should report it to BZ. it is well known in mozilla land that shutting down thunderbird improperly can/will/may, and sometimes not, cause corruption. primarily it is 2 files, panacea.dat and lock that need to be closed.

Re: Unexplained temporary freezes in Thunderbird Fedora 13

2010-06-17 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Fri, 2010-06-18 at 00:26 +, g wrote: Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: snip Do you have evidence of this? If so, you should report it to BZ. it is well known in mozilla land that shutting down thunderbird improperly can/will/may, and sometimes not, cause corruption. Any references to

Re: Unexplained temporary freezes in Thunderbird Fedora 13

2010-06-16 Thread g
Jerry Feldman wrote: snip Now, other things seem to be misbehaving with Thunderbird. First, I've had top running and when it seems to freeze, I'm seeing Thunderbird taking about 100% of the CPU. So it seems that T-Bird gets snip you are starting to see reasons i am glad i am still running

Re: Unexplained temporary freezes in Thunderbird Fedora 13

2010-06-16 Thread Konstantin Svist
On 06/16/2010 11:50 AM, g wrote: solutions to your problems have been disabling features to upgrading. because of various problems with 3.0.x versions, an upgrade to 3.1 or higher is better. i know this can be a problem under linux, but there are ways. Thanks for suggestion, I've

Re: Unexplained temporary freezes in Thunderbird Fedora 13

2010-06-16 Thread Jerry Feldman
On 06/16/2010 02:50 PM, g wrote: Jerry Feldman wrote: snip Now, other things seem to be misbehaving with Thunderbird. First, I've had top running and when it seems to freeze, I'm seeing Thunderbird taking about 100% of the CPU. So it seems that T-Bird gets snip you are starting

Re: Unexplained temporary freezes in Thunderbird Fedora 13

2010-06-16 Thread g
Jerry Feldman wrote: snip BTW: I am subscribed to the Thunderbird list, but I have not had the time to follow it recently. As I mentioned before, I have been ignoring my friend Google :-) not having time is very understandable. may well be that upgrading, as konstantin suggest, may well be a

Re: Unexplained temporary freezes in Thunderbird Fedora 13

2010-06-16 Thread g
Konstantin Svist wrote: snip Thanks for suggestion, I've upgraded.. will see if it's any better welcome. rawhide is a good way to do upgrade. i hope i works for you and jerry. -- peace out. tc,hago. g . in a free world without fences, who needs gates. ** help microsoft stamp out

Re: Unexplained temporary freezes in Thunderbird Fedora 13

2010-06-15 Thread Jerry Feldman
On 06/14/2010 05:17 PM, g wrote: Jerry Feldman wrote: snip to further clarify, maybe, i do not/would not relate volume size being huge to 'drafts' folder file. what is stored there and left, is what you save with 'file save', 'file save as', or ctrl+s. or a crash, which could be if

Re: Unexplained temporary freezes in Thunderbird Fedora 13

2010-06-15 Thread Jerry Feldman
On 06/15/2010 02:35 PM, Jerry Feldman wrote: ok, take thunderbird out of as much background mode as possible. next time you are going to be composing emails, put thunderbird offline, disable auto save, then start composing. if you still have freezing, take system offline. also, you could

Unexplained temporary freezes in Thunderbird Fedora 13

2010-06-14 Thread Jerry Feldman
In the past, Thunderbird would freeze temporarily while waiting to obtain a GPG key or to load some graphics. However in Thunderbird 3.04 on Fedora 13 (x86_64) I'm seeing some issues where the screen goes dark, even while I am composing. After a short while, it cathes up. My system is an x86_64

Re: Unexplained temporary freezes in Thunderbird Fedora 13

2010-06-14 Thread Jerry Feldman
On 06/14/2010 01:04 PM, Steven Stern wrote: On 06/14/2010 11:50 AM, Jerry Feldman wrote: In the past, Thunderbird would freeze temporarily while waiting to obtain a GPG key or to load some graphics. However in Thunderbird 3.04 on Fedora 13 (x86_64) I'm seeing some issues where the screen

Re: Unexplained temporary freezes in Thunderbird Fedora 13

2010-06-14 Thread Dale J. Chatham
On 06/14/2010 01:56 PM, Jerry Feldman wrote: Thanks Steve, but this is currently and has been off forever. I also can look at the add-ons. I only have Enigmail (for GNUPG), AdblockPlus, Remove duplicates, and English dictionary. I also have Thunderbrowse turned on (I thought I had it

Re: Unexplained temporary freezes in Thunderbird Fedora 13

2010-06-14 Thread Jerry Feldman
On 06/14/2010 01:08 PM, Dale J. Chatham wrote: On 06/14/2010 12:04 PM, Steven Stern wrote: On 06/14/2010 11:50 AM, Jerry Feldman wrote: In the past, Thunderbird would freeze temporarily while waiting to obtain a GPG key or to load some graphics. However in Thunderbird 3.04 on

Re: Unexplained temporary freezes in Thunderbird Fedora 13

2010-06-14 Thread Jerry Feldman
On 06/14/2010 03:00 PM, Dale J. Chatham wrote: On 06/14/2010 01:56 PM, Jerry Feldman wrote: Thanks Steve, but this is currently and has been off forever. I also can look at the add-ons. I only have Enigmail (for GNUPG), AdblockPlus, Remove duplicates, and English dictionary. I also have

Re: Unexplained temporary freezes in Thunderbird Fedora 13

2010-06-14 Thread Genes MailLists
On 06/14/2010 03:10 PM, Jerry Feldman wrote: I moved to T-Bird from Claws (on Linux of course) a few years ago. I generally use the version on T-Bird that is on the current Fedora repo. The freeze condition that I see is just an annoying pain because it occurs while I am typing. it is

Re: Unexplained temporary freezes in Thunderbird Fedora 13

2010-06-14 Thread g
Jerry Feldman wrote: snip I think the offline storage is very unlikely as there was not (or should not have been) any disk I/O activity at the times. thunderbird does produce disk i/o activity when in compose mode. there is a storing of message in 'drafts folder' and is set with

Re: Unexplained temporary freezes in Thunderbird Fedora 13

2010-06-14 Thread Jerry Feldman
On 06/14/2010 04:33 PM, g wrote: Jerry Feldman wrote: snip I think the offline storage is very unlikely as there was not (or should not have been) any disk I/O activity at the times. thunderbird does produce disk i/o activity when in compose mode. there is a storing of message