Re: good bye - Fwd: list-moderation - Re: KDE without gnome-shell?

2013-11-18 Thread Richard Vickery
On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 3:08 PM, Rahul Sundaram methe...@gmail.com wrote: Hi On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 6:02 PM, Robert Holtzman wrote: To you it's rude, to me blunt. This will never be resolved as it's a matter of individual taste, enviroment, upbringing, etc. You seem to have a thinner

Re: good bye - Fwd: list-moderation - Re: KDE without gnome-shell?

2013-11-10 Thread EGO.II-1
On 11/09/2013 07:22 PM, David wrote: On 11/9/2013 4:54 PM, EGO.II-1 wrote: On 11/09/2013 02:05 PM, David wrote: On 11/9/2013 1:39 PM, EGO.II-1 wrote: On 11/09/2013 08:23 AM, Bill Oliver wrote: Interesting topic, What about the person who WAS once a devoted personbut due to the responses

Re: good bye - Fwd: list-moderation - Re: KDE without gnome-shell?

2013-11-09 Thread Bill Oliver
On Fri, 8 Nov 2013, Robert Holtzman wrote: On Thu, Nov 07, 2013 at 06:08:47PM -0500, Rahul Sundaram wrote: Hi On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 6:02 PM, Robert Holtzman wrote: To you it's rude, to me blunt. This will never be resolved as it's a matter of individual taste, enviroment, upbringing,

Re: good bye - Fwd: list-moderation - Re: KDE without gnome-shell?

2013-11-09 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Sat, Nov 9, 2013 at 8:23 AM, Bill Oliver wrote: The important question, I propose as a conjecture, is that it doesn't matter whether someone irritates the core posters, since it won't change their behavior in any substantive way. A number of people including me have reduced

Re: good bye - Fwd: list-moderation - Re: KDE without gnome-shell?

2013-11-09 Thread EGO.II-1
On 11/09/2013 08:23 AM, Bill Oliver wrote: On Fri, 8 Nov 2013, Robert Holtzman wrote: On Thu, Nov 07, 2013 at 06:08:47PM -0500, Rahul Sundaram wrote: Hi On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 6:02 PM, Robert Holtzman wrote: To you it's rude, to me blunt. This will never be resolved as it's a matter of

Re: good bye - Fwd: list-moderation - Re: KDE without gnome-shell?

2013-11-09 Thread David
On 11/9/2013 1:39 PM, EGO.II-1 wrote: On 11/09/2013 08:23 AM, Bill Oliver wrote: Interesting topic, What about the person who WAS once a devoted personbut due to the responses he was gettingleftand after trying a slew of other distros...couldn't find anything that compared to

Re: good bye - Fwd: list-moderation - Re: KDE without gnome-shell?

2013-11-09 Thread EGO.II-1
On 11/09/2013 02:05 PM, David wrote: On 11/9/2013 1:39 PM, EGO.II-1 wrote: On 11/09/2013 08:23 AM, Bill Oliver wrote: Interesting topic, What about the person who WAS once a devoted personbut due to the responses he was gettingleftand after trying a slew of other

Re: good bye - Fwd: list-moderation - Re: KDE without gnome-shell?

2013-11-09 Thread David
On 11/9/2013 4:54 PM, EGO.II-1 wrote: On 11/09/2013 02:05 PM, David wrote: On 11/9/2013 1:39 PM, EGO.II-1 wrote: On 11/09/2013 08:23 AM, Bill Oliver wrote: Interesting topic, What about the person who WAS once a devoted personbut due to the responses he was gettingleftand after

Re: good bye - Fwd: list-moderation - Re: KDE without gnome-shell?

2013-11-08 Thread Ian Malone
On 7 November 2013 23:02, Robert Holtzman hol...@cox.net wrote: On Thu, Nov 07, 2013 at 12:23:27AM -0500, Rahul Sundaram wrote: HI On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 12:15 AM, Robert Holtzman wrote: The problem, of course, being that idiots seldom appreciate their idiocy unless it's pointed out

Re: good bye - Fwd: list-moderation - Re: KDE without gnome-shell?

2013-11-08 Thread Tim
Allegedly, on or about 07 November 2013, Robert Holtzman sent: To you it's rude, to me blunt. This will never be resolved as it's a matter of individual taste, enviroment, upbringing, etc. You seem to have a thinner skin than I do. In general, what we saw was his bluntness. And I can be

Re: good bye - Fwd: list-moderation - Re: KDE without gnome-shell?

2013-11-08 Thread Robert Holtzman
On Thu, Nov 07, 2013 at 06:08:47PM -0500, Rahul Sundaram wrote: Hi On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 6:02 PM, Robert Holtzman wrote: To you it's rude, to me blunt. This will never be resolved as it's a matter of individual taste, enviroment, upbringing, etc. You seem to have a thinner skin

Re: good bye - Fwd: list-moderation - Re: KDE without gnome-shell?

2013-11-07 Thread Tim
Allegedly, on or about 06 November 2013, Joe Zeff sent: I'm beginning to think that the problem was started by complaints from one or more offense thieves. (That's a person who takes offense when none was offered.) This was followed up by heavy-handed moderation by one or more moderators

Re: good bye - Fwd: list-moderation - Re: KDE without gnome-shell?

2013-11-07 Thread Robert Holtzman
On Thu, Nov 07, 2013 at 12:23:27AM -0500, Rahul Sundaram wrote: HI On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 12:15 AM, Robert Holtzman wrote: The problem, of course, being that idiots seldom appreciate their idiocy unless it's pointed out to them...bluntly. That is a really weak excuse for

Re: good bye - Fwd: list-moderation - Re: KDE without gnome-shell?

2013-11-07 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 6:02 PM, Robert Holtzman wrote: To you it's rude, to me blunt. This will never be resolved as it's a matter of individual taste, enviroment, upbringing, etc. You seem to have a thinner skin than I do. No. I can tolerate it just fine but I shouldn't have to. If

Re: good bye - Fwd: list-moderation - Re: KDE without gnome-shell?

2013-11-07 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 11:08 PM, Rahul Sundaram methe...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 6:02 PM, Robert Holtzman wrote: To you it's rude, to me blunt. This will never be resolved as it's a matter of individual taste, enviroment, upbringing, etc. You seem to have a thinner skin

Re: good bye - Fwd: list-moderation - Re: KDE without gnome-shell?

2013-11-07 Thread Roger
The problem, of course, being that idiots seldom appreciate their idiocy unless it's pointed out to them...bluntly. A smart person gives people their space and never encroaches on another's sensibilities. A smart person knows that pointing out perceived failings of others never works

Re: good bye - Fwd: list-moderation - Re: KDE without gnome-shell?

2013-11-06 Thread Robert Holtzman
On Mon, Nov 04, 2013 at 09:34:05PM +0100, Reindl Harald wrote: well, you even do not find it worth to answer and continue not release posts if you would act honest and practice what you preach you would have written an answer within the last two days and even a please unsubscribe now would

Re: good bye - Fwd: list-moderation - Re: KDE without gnome-shell?

2013-11-06 Thread Bob Goodwin ~ Zuni, Virginia, USA
On 06/11/13 13:20, Robert Holtzman wrote: He was a good source of valuable information. BTW, the moderator(s) seem to confuse bluntness with rudeness and/or combatitiveness. For my part, I appreciate bluntness. I agree and I think this has been handled poorly. People I find offensive I

Re: good bye - Fwd: list-moderation - Re: KDE without gnome-shell?

2013-11-06 Thread Mike Wright
11/06/2013 11:09 AM, Bob Goodwin ~ Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote: People I find offensive I simply filter out and never see them. It would seem others would do the same ... +1 I hope we haven't lost a diamond in the rough. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or

Re: good bye - Fwd: list-moderation - Re: KDE without gnome-shell?

2013-11-06 Thread Frank
On 06/11/13 02:17 PM, Mike Wright wrote: 11/06/2013 11:09 AM, Bob Goodwin ~ Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote: People I find offensive I simply filter out and never see them. It would seem others would do the same ... +1 I hope we haven't lost a diamond in the rough. +1 even though I

Re: good bye - Fwd: list-moderation - Re: KDE without gnome-shell?

2013-11-06 Thread Thomas Dineen
Hold On! Is this situation kind of like a Frankenstein Movie? Where at the end of this episode the monster appears dead? But of wait, Not to worry (Or maybe you should)?, He will come back in the next episode? Thomas Dineen On 11/6/2013 11:23 AM, Frank wrote: On 06/11/13 02:17 PM, Mike

Re: good bye - Fwd: list-moderation - Re: KDE without gnome-shell?

2013-11-06 Thread Thomas Dineen
There is also geographical irony here! Keeping in mine the place where Frankenstein was born! See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Villa_Diodati Thomas Dineen On 11/6/2013 11:44 AM, Thomas Dineen wrote: Hold On! Is this situation kind of like a Frankenstein Movie? Where at the end of this

Re: good bye - Fwd: list-moderation - Re: KDE without gnome-shell?

2013-11-06 Thread Heinz Diehl
On 06.11.2013, Bob Goodwin ~ Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote: People I find offensive I simply filter out and never see them. It would seem others would do the same I have never understood this problem here on the list. You don't like to read somebodies email? Write a killfile, put him/her in it,

Re: good bye - Fwd: list-moderation - Re: KDE without gnome-shell?

2013-11-06 Thread Joe Zeff
On 11/06/2013 12:38 PM, Heinz Diehl wrote: FWIW: I guess it had a good reason that he was/is moderated. Don't want to argue on that one.. I'm beginning to think that the problem was started by complaints from one or more offense thieves. (That's a person who takes offense when none was

Re: good bye - Fwd: list-moderation - Re: KDE without gnome-shell?

2013-11-06 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 1:20 PM, Robert Holtzman wrote: BTW, the moderator(s) seem to confuse bluntness with rudeness and/or combatitiveness. For my part, I appreciate bluntness. Bluntness is often used as a excuse by people who are rude. It is easy enough to see the difference. You

Re: good bye - Fwd: list-moderation - Re: KDE without gnome-shell?

2013-11-06 Thread Mateusz Marzantowicz
On 06.11.2013 20:44, Thomas Dineen wrote: Hold On! Is this situation kind of like a Frankenstein Movie? Where at the end of this episode the monster appears dead? But of wait, Not to worry (Or maybe you should)?, He will come back in the next episode? Or next mailing list :-) AFAIK the

Re: good bye - Fwd: list-moderation - Re: KDE without gnome-shell?

2013-11-06 Thread Robert Holtzman
On Wed, Nov 06, 2013 at 04:22:03PM -0500, Rahul Sundaram wrote: Hi On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 1:20 PM, Robert Holtzman wrote: BTW, the moderator(s) seem to confuse bluntness with rudeness and/or combatitiveness. For my part, I appreciate bluntness. Bluntness is often used as a excuse

Re: good bye - Fwd: list-moderation - Re: KDE without gnome-shell?

2013-11-06 Thread Rahul Sundaram
HI On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 12:15 AM, Robert Holtzman wrote: The problem, of course, being that idiots seldom appreciate their idiocy unless it's pointed out to them...bluntly. That is a really weak excuse for being rude. The expectation in Fedora is that everyone should read and

Re: good bye - Fwd: list-moderation - Re: KDE without gnome-shell?

2013-11-06 Thread Rejy M Cyriac
On 11/07/2013 10:45 AM, Robert Holtzman wrote: On Wed, Nov 06, 2013 at 04:22:03PM -0500, Rahul Sundaram wrote: Hi On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 1:20 PM, Robert Holtzman wrote: BTW, the moderator(s) seem to confuse bluntness with rudeness and/or combatitiveness. For my part, I appreciate

Re: good bye - Fwd: list-moderation - Re: KDE without gnome-shell?

2013-11-06 Thread Hiisi
On 5 November 2013 00:34, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote: rant snipped Thanks for replying my threads! Bye! -- Hiisi. Registered Linux User #487982. Be counted at: https://linuxcounter.net/ -- Spandex is a privilege, not a right -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: good bye - Fwd: list-moderation - Re: KDE without gnome-shell?

2013-11-06 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 11/07/2013 07:21 AM, Rejy M Cyriac wrote: On 11/07/2013 10:45 AM, Robert Holtzman wrote: On Wed, Nov 06, 2013 at 04:22:03PM -0500, Rahul Sundaram wrote: Hi On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 1:20 PM, Robert Holtzman wrote: BTW, the moderator(s) seem to confuse bluntness with rudeness and/or

good bye - Fwd: list-moderation - Re: KDE without gnome-shell?

2013-11-05 Thread Reindl Harald
well, you even do not find it worth to answer and continue not release posts if you would act honest and practice what you preach you would have written an answer within the last two days and even a please unsubscribe now would have shown more respect than nothing at all since this bevavior not