Re: minimal install CD versus Pentium 4

2012-03-27 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Mon, 26 Mar 2012, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Mon, 2012-03-26 at 18:50 -0500, Michael Hennebry wrote: My machine has 4 GB. I got in March 2006. NX for pentium 4s were available in 2004. That said, how do I find out for sure whether my pentium has NX? grep -i nx /proc/cpuinfo

Re: minimal install CD versus Pentium 4

2012-03-27 Thread Ed Greshko
On 03/27/2012 10:48 PM, Michael Hennebry wrote: On Mon, 26 Mar 2012, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Mon, 2012-03-26 at 18:50 -0500, Michael Hennebry wrote: My machine has 4 GB. I got in March 2006. NX for pentium 4s were available in 2004. That said, how do I find out for sure whether my

Re: minimal install CD versus Pentium 4

2012-03-27 Thread James Wilkinson
Michael Hennebry wrote: Stepping 9. No NX. Of course, the next question is whether the installer or installee require NX. No, but it allows the kernel to block certain sorts of attacks. I’m pretty sure Fedora kernels still use Exec-Shield on non-NX processors, which should provide most of

Re: minimal install CD versus Pentium 4

2012-03-27 Thread Joe Zeff
On 03/27/2012 01:13 PM, James Wilkinson wrote: But you’ll make best use of 4GB of RAM with the PAE kernel anyway. AIUI, the 32-bit installer gives you a PAE kernel if your CPU can handle it and has for quite some time. My laptop has 3GB RAM and back when I installed F 9 on it, I found that

Re: minimal install CD versus Pentium 4

2012-03-26 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Sun, 25 Mar 2012, Joe Zeff wrote: On 03/25/2012 01:44 PM, Aaron Konstam wrote: Some one said in a note earlier today that would lead me to find out why the installed system only works in fail safe mode but it doesn't.. Does it to anyone else. As I wrote at the time, this allows you to

Re: minimal install CD versus Pentium 4

2012-03-26 Thread Bill Davidsen
Michael Hennebry wrote: On Sun, 25 Mar 2012, Joe Zeff wrote: On 03/25/2012 01:44 PM, Aaron Konstam wrote: Some one said in a note earlier today that would lead me to find out why the installed system only works in fail safe mode but it doesn't.. Does it to anyone else. As I wrote at the

Re: minimal install CD versus Pentium 4

2012-03-26 Thread James Wilkinson
Bill Davidsen wrote: Another thing you might try is the Live-CD install if the object is just to get it working. Without firing up another system I can't remember if the P4 has PAE or not, do know that about yours before trying the install. Yes, it does. However, earlier P4s didn’t have

Re: minimal install CD versus Pentium 4

2012-03-26 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Mon, 26 Mar 2012, Bill Davidsen wrote: My only thought is that you may have the wrong DVD, since I just did an install on a laptop with a decade-old Pentium-M CPU. I worked, I can't complain, I believe the video driver even produced an image under GNOME3, although I went with LXDE instead so

Re: minimal install CD versus Pentium 4

2012-03-26 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2012-03-26 at 18:50 -0500, Michael Hennebry wrote: On Mon, 26 Mar 2012, Bill Davidsen wrote: My only thought is that you may have the wrong DVD, since I just did an install on a laptop with a decade-old Pentium-M CPU. I worked, I can't complain, I believe the video driver even

minimal install CD versus Pentium 4

2012-03-25 Thread Michael Hennebry
I've tried to install F16 using its minimal CD and its iso file. The CD will not boot. Has anyone gotten this combination to boot? Most recently I used tab and backspaced over quiet. Since I didn't have a running system running, I had to copy the result by hand: [1.429346] ---cut here--- kernel

Re: minimal install CD versus Pentium 4

2012-03-25 Thread stan
On Sun, 25 Mar 2012 10:29:06 -0500 (CDT) Michael Hennebry henne...@web.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu wrote: In another thread, it was suggested that this bugzilla entry might be pertinent: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=730007 While I can certainly see the relationship, it's not obviously

Re: minimal install CD versus Pentium 4

2012-03-25 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Sun, 2012-03-25 at 10:50 -0700, stan wrote: On Sun, 25 Mar 2012 10:29:06 -0500 (CDT) Michael Hennebry henne...@web.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu wrote: In another thread, it was suggested that this bugzilla entry might be pertinent: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=730007 While I

Re: minimal install CD versus Pentium 4

2012-03-25 Thread Joe Zeff
On 03/25/2012 01:44 PM, Aaron Konstam wrote: Some one said in a note earlier today that would lead me to find out why the installed system only works in fail safe mode but it doesn't.. Does it to anyone else. As I wrote at the time, this allows you to make sure it's not hardware related.