On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 4:35 PM, Heinz Diehl h...@fritha.org wrote:
On 21.07.2014, Tom H wrote:
The method that I suggested is right
There's no wrong or right. It's just one way to do it (not mine).
But of course, it can be the way for others. It's perfectly fine to build a
kernel by using
On 21.07.2014, Paul Cartwright wrote:
what is it I am symlinking?? the actual kernel??
If you need to: the root directory of the kernel source.
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On 22.07.2014, Joe Zeff wrote:
If you really need to put it on a spare partition, you can always move
everything there from /usr/src and then mount that partition at /usr/src and
go from there.
And don't forget to take a look into /lib/modules and update the
(now) incorrect symlinks to the
On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 4:11 PM, Paul Cartwright pbcartwri...@gmail.com
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is there some command I don't know about that will let you swap to the
latest kernel without rebooting?
What problems one could face if I were to not reboot my system for a while
and let it update a few kernel
On Tue, 22 Jul 2014 16:56:00 +0530
Sudhir Khanger sud...@sudhirkhanger.com wrote:
What problems one could face if I were to not reboot my system for a
while and let it update a few kernel versions?
Well, for example, a kernel update might be due to some new severe
security exploit, and the
On Tue, 2014-07-22 at 13:25 +0100, Marko Vojinovic wrote:
In theory, for each kernel update you could look at the changelog to
see what was actually updated and why, and then decide if you need to
run the updated kernel or not. But most people typically don't want to
invest the time and effort
Is it me, or does every other update lately seem to include a new
kernel.. I thought linux was meant to stay up running. I seem to be
rebooting weekly now, just for a new kernel. Now on:
uname -a
Linux pauls-server 3.15.6-200.fc20.x86_64 #1 SMP Fri Jul 18 02:36:27 UTC
2014 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64
On 21/07/14 06:41 AM, Paul Cartwright wrote:
Is it me, or does every other update lately seem to include a new
kernel.. I thought linux was meant to stay up running. I seem to be
rebooting weekly now, just for a new kernel. Now on:
uname -a
Linux pauls-server 3.15.6-200.fc20.x86_64 #1 SMP Fri
Paul Cartwright writes:
is there some command I don't know about that will let you swap to the
latest kernel without rebooting???
No. The only way to switch kernels is a reboot.
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Digimer wrote:
is there some command I don't know about that will let you swap to the
latest kernel without rebooting???
Fedora is not a server OS. It's a bleeding-edge distro and as such,
changes often. If you want stability, use RHEL/CentOS. Far fewer kernel
updates there.
As a matter or
On 21/07/14 07:11 AM, Timothy Murphy wrote:
Digimer wrote:
is there some command I don't know about that will let you swap to the
latest kernel without rebooting???
Fedora is not a server OS. It's a bleeding-edge distro and as such,
changes often. If you want stability, use RHEL/CentOS. Far
2014-07-21 13:41 GMT+03:00 Paul Cartwright pbcartwri...@gmail.com:
Is it me, or does every other update lately seem to include a new
kernel.. I thought linux was meant to stay up running. I seem to be
rebooting weekly now, just for a new kernel. Now on:
uname -a
Linux pauls-server
On 07/21/2014 07:19 AM, Alchemist wrote:
You can do fast-reboot by using kexec
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Kernel/kexec
thanks, good info! I don't have a problem with the speed of reboots, I
just do init 6 from command line.. It just seems that all I have been
doing lately is rebooting,
On Mon, 2014-07-21 at 07:29 -0400, Paul Cartwright wrote:
On 07/21/2014 07:19 AM, Alchemist wrote:
You can do fast-reboot by using kexec
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Kernel/kexec
thanks, good info! I don't have a problem with the speed of reboots, I
just do init 6 from command
On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 06:41:05 -0400,
Paul Cartwright pbcartwri...@gmail.com wrote:
Is it me, or does every other update lately seem to include a new
kernel.. I thought linux was meant to stay up running. I seem to be
rebooting weekly now, just for a new kernel. Now on:
We'll you could
On 07/21/2014 08:18 AM, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
Is it me, or does every other update lately seem to include a new
kernel.. I thought linux was meant to stay up running. I seem to be
rebooting weekly now, just for a new kernel. Now on:
We'll you could keep running the older kernel. Depending
On 07/21/2014 07:42 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
thanks, good info! I don't have a problem with the speed of reboots, I
just do init 6 from command line.. It just seems that all I have been
doing lately is rebooting, and setting up all the windows I keep open..
3 kernels in 10 days..
On 21.07.2014, Paul Cartwright wrote:
Is it me, or does every other update lately seem to include a new
kernel.. I thought linux was meant to stay up running. I seem to be
rebooting weekly now, just for a new kernel.
I've never used any Fedora kernel any longer than for the first
install.
On 21.07.2014 12:41, Paul Cartwright wrote:
...
in less than 10 days..
Such rapid upgrades are actually commendable! :)
This is the very reason why people drive Ferrari.
poma
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On 21.07.2014 15:35, Heinz Diehl wrote:
On 21.07.2014, Paul Cartwright wrote:
Is it me, or does every other update lately seem to include a new
kernel.. I thought linux was meant to stay up running. I seem to be
rebooting weekly now, just for a new kernel.
I've never used any Fedora kernel
On 21.07.2014, poma wrote:
Your expertise with kernel would be very welcome for the Fedora kernel also,
when you offer Heinz. ;)
Here's what I'm doing (and what I basically have been doing in many years):
1. Download a kernel from kernel.org
2. Extract it into /usr/src
3. Apply some minor
On 21.07.2014 18:37, Heinz Diehl wrote:
On 21.07.2014, poma wrote:
Your expertise with kernel would be very welcome for the Fedora kernel also,
when you offer Heinz. ;)
Here's what I'm doing (and what I basically have been doing in many years):
1. Download a kernel from kernel.org
2.
On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 12:37 PM, Heinz Diehl h...@fritha.org wrote:
On 21.07.2014, poma wrote:
Your expertise with kernel would be very welcome for the Fedora kernel also,
when you offer Heinz. ;)
Here's what I'm doing (and what I basically have been doing in many years):
1. Download a
On Mon, 21 Jul 2014 18:37:58 +0200
Heinz Diehl h...@fritha.org wrote:
Here's what I'm doing (and what I basically have been doing in many
years):
[snip]
In short: a simple kernel compile/install. Your kernel will live
peacefully alongside with your distribution kernel(s).
What is the
On 21.07.2014, poma wrote:
Do you have any .config item worth mentioning, something you recommend or
vice versa?
Nope. Every config is different, and so is the machine which it will
be installed on, and the preferences of the one who uses it. It's a
learning experience for anybody who's new
On 07/21/2014 02:12 PM, Heinz Diehl wrote:
Do you have any .config item worth mentioning, something you recommend or
vice versa?
Nope. Every config is different, and so is the machine which it will
be installed on, and the preferences of the one who uses it. It's a
learning experience for
On 21.07.2014, Tom H wrote:
You'd be better off replacing the second step 5 by make rpm-pkg and
the last step 5 and step 6 by rpm -i
No, I wouldn't. My .config is highly customized, and the way I
described just fits my needs perfectly. I'm quite aware of the
possibility to build a kernel
On 21.07.2014, Marko Vojinovic wrote:
What is the purpose of installing a non-Fedora kernel, in your case?
Coming from SLS, slackware and yggdrasil way back in time, it's how it
has been for me all the time. I have my configs, scripts and so
on. I kept them over time, and they just work :-)
On 21.07.2014, Paul Cartwright wrote:
my / file system ran out of space. I had 5.8Gb free before I started this..
Your root partition is way too small for kernel development.
[root@kiera src]# du -ch linux-3.15.6-rc1
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4.1G total
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On 07/21/2014 02:47 PM, Heinz Diehl wrote:
my / file system ran out of space. I had 5.8Gb free before I started this..
Your root partition is way too small for kernel development.
that would be something to take into consideration... I thought 5.8Gb of
free space is PLENTY..
you say to put it
On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 2:17 PM, Heinz Diehl h...@fritha.org wrote:
On 21.07.2014, Tom H wrote:
You'd be better off replacing the second step 5 by make rpm-pkg and
the last step 5 and step 6 by rpm -i
No, I wouldn't. My .config is highly customized, and the way I
described just fits my
On 07/21/2014 03:19 PM, Tom H wrote:
You'd still be able to use your config - the first step 5.
The method that I suggested is right because (and I made a mistake
earlier and shouldn't have suggested that you use rpm) you can install
your kernel with yum install ... and remove it with yum
On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 3:22 PM, Paul Cartwright pbcartwri...@gmail.com wrote:
On 07/21/2014 03:19 PM, Tom H wrote:
You'd still be able to use your config - the first step 5.
The method that I suggested is right because (and I made a mistake
earlier and shouldn't have suggested that you use
On 21.07.2014, Paul Cartwright wrote:
you say to put it in /usr/src. Can I put it in a spare partition that
has more space?? does it need to be in /usr/src??
You can most probably have it where you want it to. If something
expects it to be in /usr/src, you can create a symlink.
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On 21.07.2014, Tom H wrote:
The method that I suggested is right
There's no wrong or right. It's just one way to do it (not mine).
But of course, it can be the way for others. It's perfectly fine to build a
kernel by using rpm an manage it using yum, but it's not what I
prefer.
because (and
On 07/21/2014 04:26 PM, Heinz Diehl wrote:
You can most probably have it where you want it to. If something
expects it to be in /usr/src, you can create a symlink.
what is it I am symlinking?? the actual kernel??
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On 07/21/2014 01:26 PM, Heinz Diehl wrote:
On 21.07.2014, Paul Cartwright wrote:
you say to put it in /usr/src. Can I put it in a spare partition that
has more space?? does it need to be in /usr/src??
You can most probably have it where you want it to. If something
expects it to be in
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