Re: what just happened (time went backwards?)

2014-02-28 Thread Lars E. Pettersson
On 02/28/2014 12:54 AM, Chris Murphy wrote: On Feb 27, 2014, at 12:28 PM, Lars E. Pettersson l...@homer.se wrote: On 02/26/14 19:23, lee wrote: What is the purpose of this log duplication? When systemd has its own logs, it doesn´t seem necessary to duplicate them by sending their contents

Re: what just happened (time went backwards?)

2014-02-28 Thread Joel Rees
On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 8:54 AM, Chris Murphy li...@colorremedies.com wrote: On Feb 27, 2014, at 12:28 PM, Lars E. Pettersson l...@homer.se wrote: On 02/26/14 19:23, lee wrote: What is the purpose of this log duplication? When systemd has its own logs, it doesn´t seem necessary to duplicate

Re: what just happened (time went backwards?)

2014-02-27 Thread Lars E. Pettersson
On 02/26/14 19:23, lee wrote: What is the purpose of this log duplication? When systemd has its own logs, it doesn´t seem necessary to duplicate them by sending their contents to syslogd. One could also ask why systemd duplicates the logging formerly only done by syslogd. For me looking

Re: what just happened (time went backwards?)

2014-02-27 Thread lee
Lars E. Pettersson l...@homer.se writes: On 02/26/14 19:23, lee wrote: What is the purpose of this log duplication? When systemd has its own logs, it doesn´t seem necessary to duplicate them by sending their contents to syslogd. One could also ask why systemd duplicates the logging

Re: what just happened (time went backwards?)

2014-02-27 Thread Chris Murphy
On Feb 27, 2014, at 12:28 PM, Lars E. Pettersson l...@homer.se wrote: On 02/26/14 19:23, lee wrote: What is the purpose of this log duplication? When systemd has its own logs, it doesn´t seem necessary to duplicate them by sending their contents to syslogd. One could also ask why systemd

Re: what just happened (time went backwards?)

2014-02-27 Thread Chris Murphy
On Feb 27, 2014, at 4:42 PM, lee l...@yun.yagibdah.de wrote: Lars E. Pettersson l...@homer.se writes: On 02/26/14 19:23, lee wrote: What is the purpose of this log duplication? When systemd has its own logs, it doesn´t seem necessary to duplicate them by sending their contents to

Re: what just happened (time went backwards?)

2014-02-27 Thread Frank Murphy
On Fri, 28 Feb 2014 00:42:02 +0100 lee l...@yun.yagibdah.de wrote: How do I disable these binary logs and have everything logged with syslogd? Most of the logging goes there anyway. systemctl mask systemd-journald.service ___ Regards Frank frankly3d.com -- users mailing list

Re: what just happened (time went backwards?)

2014-02-26 Thread lee
Lars E. Pettersson l...@homer.se writes: The syslog daemon writes whatever systemd sends to it. On one of my systems systemd decided to send the whole systemd journal to the syslog daemon, by doing so starting to write log lines from last year in my /var/log/messages. What is the purpose of

what just happened (time went backwards?)

2014-02-25 Thread Neal Becker
This f20 server has been running just fine for months. Today it became unresponsive. Couldn't ssh into it (ping ok). Not thrashing disk (disk light not continuously on). I hit the power button and rebooted. After reboot, checked /var/log/messages: Feb 25 12:06:18 nbecker7 kernel: [

Re: what just happened (time went backwards?)

2014-02-25 Thread Ashley M. Kirchner
Besides the time changing, I'm also dying to know how (or WHY rather) it also decided to stop all those services. On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 11:30 AM, Neal Becker ndbeck...@gmail.com wrote: This f20 server has been running just fine for months. Today it became unresponsive. Couldn't ssh into

Re: what just happened (time went backwards?)

2014-02-25 Thread Dale Dellutri
On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 12:30 PM, Neal Becker ndbeck...@gmail.com wrote: This f20 server has been running just fine for months. Today it became unresponsive. Couldn't ssh into it (ping ok). Not thrashing disk (disk light not continuously on). I hit the power button and rebooted. After

Re: what just happened (time went backwards?)

2014-02-25 Thread Chris Murphy
On Feb 25, 2014, at 11:58 AM, Dale Dellutri daledellu...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 12:30 PM, Neal Becker ndbeck...@gmail.com wrote: This f20 server has been running just fine for months. Today it became unresponsive. Couldn't ssh into it (ping ok). Not thrashing disk (disk

Re: what just happened (time went backwards?)

2014-02-25 Thread Neal Becker
Ashley M. Kirchner wrote: Besides the time changing, I'm also dying to know how (or WHY rather) it also decided to stop all those services. I assume it's because I hit the power button. But it didn't actually shut down, and after a while I held the power button to force it. On Tue, Feb

Re: what just happened (time went backwards?)

2014-02-25 Thread Lars E. Pettersson
On 02/25/2014 07:58 PM, Dale Dellutri wrote: It didn't. Systemd is in control, and /var/log/messages is no longer necessarily written in order. You need to use journalctl to read the log for F20. The syslog daemon writes whatever systemd sends to it. On one of my systems systemd decided to