Re: writing iso image to blank dvd

On Thu, 8 Dec 2016 11:39:00 -0600 (CST), Michael Hennebry wrote: > Once upon a time, I forget how long ago, > I could burn a DVD using cp. And "cat" and any other tool that can write to a device file. These tools don't care what actual hardware is accessed via the /dev entry. > I expect dd also

Re: writing iso image to blank dvd

On Sun, 4 Dec 2016, jd1008 wrote: On 12/04/2016 01:03 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote: On Sat, 3 Dec 2016 19:05:54 -0800, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 12/03/2016 05:58 PM, jd1008 wrote: Yes, I know gui apps work. Same thoughts here. One could use /dev/cdrom, which should be a link to /dev/sr0, for

Re: writing iso image to blank dvd

On Tue, 6 Dec 2016 09:52:14 -0700, jd1008 wrote: > Sorry to have to say this, but "right mod" "not right mode" is BULL. > As long as the media is blank and in undamaged condition, then > the media is in the "right mode" for writing to it. PERIOD. Either consider yourself to be an expert on this

Re: writing iso image to blank dvd

On 12/06/2016 01:24 AM, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 12/05/2016 09:48 PM, Doug wrote: On 12/05/2016 03:29 PM, Tim wrote: Allegedly, on or about 05 December 2016, Samuel Sieb sent: Also, I'm sure that dd is not going to run the finalizing step on the CD. /snip/ I have a CD with a file on it that

Re: writing iso image to blank dvd

On 12/06/2016 10:18 AM, jd1008 wrote: > > > On 12/06/2016 11:08 AM, Rick Stevens wrote: >> To clarify my position, dd is NOT broken. Technically it NEVER should >> have been able to write CDR (even with virgin or unfinalized media), >> but the responsibility for blocking that is on the drivers

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On 12/06/2016 11:08 AM, Rick Stevens wrote: On 12/06/2016 09:40 AM, jd1008 wrote: On 12/06/2016 10:33 AM, Rick Stevens wrote: On 12/06/2016 08:56 AM, jd1008 wrote: On 12/05/2016 01:58 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 12/05/2016 11:45 AM, jd1008 wrote: dd does not HAVE to know ANYTHING about the

Re: writing iso image to blank dvd

On 12/06/2016 09:40 AM, jd1008 wrote: > > > On 12/06/2016 10:33 AM, Rick Stevens wrote: >> On 12/06/2016 08:56 AM, jd1008 wrote: >>> >>> On 12/05/2016 01:58 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 12/05/2016 11:45 AM, jd1008 wrote: > dd does not HAVE to know ANYTHING about the layout. > The

Re: writing iso image to blank dvd

On 12/06/2016 10:33 AM, Rick Stevens wrote: On 12/06/2016 08:56 AM, jd1008 wrote: On 12/05/2016 01:58 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 12/05/2016 11:45 AM, jd1008 wrote: dd does not HAVE to know ANYTHING about the layout. The layout is the format of the iso file which was created by the fedora

Re: writing iso image to blank dvd

On 12/06/2016 08:56 AM, jd1008 wrote: > > > On 12/05/2016 01:58 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: >> On 12/05/2016 11:45 AM, jd1008 wrote: >>> dd does not HAVE to know ANYTHING about the layout. >>> The layout is the format of the iso file which was created by the fedora >>> project for f24 desktop

Re: writing iso image to blank dvd

On 12/06/2016 08:56 AM, jd1008 wrote: And you are wrong about configuring the drive. the drive is rather new, and the media is BRAND NEW and undamaged. Thus the drive is detected and recognized at boot time. There is no other "mode" in question, as long as the drive has not been written to and

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On 12/05/2016 01:58 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 12/05/2016 11:45 AM, jd1008 wrote: dd does not HAVE to know ANYTHING about the layout. The layout is the format of the iso file which was created by the fedora project for f24 desktop release. I am amazed at the lack of technical knowledge on the

Re: writing iso image to blank dvd

On 12/05/2016 01:37 PM, Andy Paterson wrote: On Monday 05 Dec 2016 12:27:37 Samuel Sieb wrote: On 12/05/2016 12:14 PM, Andy Paterson wrote: Its tiresome reading this kind of "gui mindness" Who is talking about a gui? Everyone in this thread has been talking about command line tools. There

Re: writing iso image to blank dvd

On Mon, 5 Dec 2016 12:49:38 -0700, jd1008 wrote: > Suffice it to say that this destruction of the dd functionality is NEW in > linux releases. As far as I can recall, it was not there until as > recently as "dd" has never included anything specific to optical drives and not tape drives either.

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On 12/06/16 14:24, Samuel Sieb wrote: > On 12/05/2016 09:48 PM, Doug wrote: >> On 12/05/2016 03:29 PM, Tim wrote: >>> Allegedly, on or about 05 December 2016, Samuel Sieb sent: Also, I'm sure that dd is not going to run the finalizing step on the CD. >>> /snip/ >> I have a CD with a

Re: writing iso image to blank dvd

On 12/05/2016 09:48 PM, Doug wrote: On 12/05/2016 03:29 PM, Tim wrote: Allegedly, on or about 05 December 2016, Samuel Sieb sent: Also, I'm sure that dd is not going to run the finalizing step on the CD. /snip/ I have a CD with a file on it that is not recognized by Linux, but Windows reads

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On 12/05/2016 03:29 PM, Tim wrote: Allegedly, on or about 05 December 2016, Samuel Sieb sent: Also, I'm sure that dd is not going to run the finalizing step on the CD. /snip/ I have a CD with a file on it that is not recognized by Linux, but Windows reads it fine. I think maybe it was not

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On 12/05/2016 01:22 PM, Tim wrote: > Allegedly, on or about 05 December 2016, John Pilkington sent: >> I don't really understand the wish to use dd for this. > > Because it used to work... And you were very fortunate to have that happen. As many others have pointed out, the CD-R/DVD-R drive must

Re: writing iso image to blank dvd

On 12/05/2016 01:22 PM, Tim wrote: Allegedly, on or about 05 December 2016, John Pilkington sent: I don't really understand the wish to use dd for this. Because it used to work... I burn dvds from iso several times a week, using k3b in verify mode. FWIW the growisofs command it uses is

Re: writing iso image to blank dvd

On 12/05/2016 01:29 PM, Tim wrote: Allegedly, on or about 05 December 2016, Samuel Sieb sent: Also, I'm sure that dd is not going to run the finalizing step on the CD. That's the one part of this that I wouldn't have thought to be a problem. The ISO image being streamed to the disc has the

Re: writing iso image to blank dvd

On 12/04/2016 08:20 PM, jd1008 wrote: I have been using unix since the first att release to the universities in the 70's, and linux since 1988/1989. Since the appearance of optical drives and media, I had always been able to dd an iso file directly to the optical drive in the manner I

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Allegedly, on or about 05 December 2016, Samuel Sieb sent: > Also, I'm sure that dd is not going to run the finalizing step on the > CD. That's the one part of this that I wouldn't have thought to be a problem. The ISO image being streamed to the disc has the beginning, the middle, and the end,

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Allegedly, on or about 05 December 2016, John Pilkington sent: > I don't really understand the wish to use dd for this. Because it used to work... > I burn dvds from iso several times a week, using k3b in verify mode. > FWIW the growisofs command it uses is apparently: In essence I agree that

Re: writing iso image to blank dvd

On 12/05/2016 11:45 AM, jd1008 wrote: dd does not HAVE to know ANYTHING about the layout. The layout is the format of the iso file which was created by the fedora project for f24 desktop release. I am amazed at the lack of technical knowledge on the part of every respondent to this problem.

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On Monday 05 Dec 2016 12:27:37 Samuel Sieb wrote: > On 12/05/2016 12:14 PM, Andy Paterson wrote: > > Its tiresome reading this kind of "gui mindness" > > Who is talking about a gui? Everyone in this thread has been talking > about command line tools. There have been mentions of the gui tools

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On 12/05/2016 12:14 PM, Andy Paterson wrote: Its tiresome reading this kind of "gui mindness" Who is talking about a gui? Everyone in this thread has been talking about command line tools. There have been mentions of the gui tools and those are certainly the best method if you're running a

Re: writing iso image to blank dvd

On Monday 05 Dec 2016 20:09:58 Michael Schwendt wrote: > On Sun, 4 Dec 2016 19:20:28 -0700, jd1008 wrote: > > > Same thoughts here. One could use /dev/cdrom, which should be a link to > > > /dev/sr0, for reading and creating an ISO image, but not for setting up > > > the device to burn discs

Re: writing iso image to blank dvd

On 12/05/2016 12:48 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 12/05/2016 11:43 AM, jd1008 wrote: On 12/05/2016 10:13 AM, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 12/05/2016 04:18 AM, Tim wrote: Allegedly, on or about 04 December 2016, Samuel Sieb sent: I haven't tried using dd to write an optical disk. I would not expect

Re: writing iso image to blank dvd

On 12/05/2016 12:39 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 12/05/2016 11:09 AM, Michael Schwendt wrote: The safe cmdline way for burning discs has been "cdrecord" for many years. It may be that "dd" could write to special preformatted discs and possibly with hardware and media that would work together

Re: writing iso image to blank dvd

On 12/05/2016 11:43 AM, jd1008 wrote: On 12/05/2016 10:13 AM, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 12/05/2016 04:18 AM, Tim wrote: Allegedly, on or about 04 December 2016, Samuel Sieb sent: I haven't tried using dd to write an optical disk. I would not expect it work and it shouldn't work. I haven't,

Re: writing iso image to blank dvd

On 12/05/2016 12:09 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote: On Sun, 4 Dec 2016 19:20:28 -0700, jd1008 wrote: Same thoughts here. One could use /dev/cdrom, which should be a link to /dev/sr0, for reading and creating an ISO image, but not for setting up the device to burn discs "magically". Michael,

Re: writing iso image to blank dvd

On 12/05/2016 10:13 AM, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 12/05/2016 04:18 AM, Tim wrote: Allegedly, on or about 04 December 2016, Samuel Sieb sent: I haven't tried using dd to write an optical disk. I would not expect it work and it shouldn't work. I haven't, either. But I'd be inclined to think

Re: writing iso image to blank dvd

On 12/05/2016 11:09 AM, Michael Schwendt wrote: The safe cmdline way for burning discs has been "cdrecord" for many years. It may be that "dd" could write to special preformatted discs and possibly with hardware and media that would work together by default. I don't think it has ever been a

Re: writing iso image to blank dvd

On Sun, 4 Dec 2016 19:20:28 -0700, jd1008 wrote: > > Same thoughts here. One could use /dev/cdrom, which should be a link to > > /dev/sr0, for reading and creating an ISO image, but not for setting up > > the device to burn discs "magically". > Michael, Michael... > I have no idea what you mean

Re: writing iso image to blank dvd

On 05/12/16 17:13, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 12/05/2016 04:18 AM, Tim wrote: Allegedly, on or about 04 December 2016, Samuel Sieb sent: I haven't tried using dd to write an optical disk. I would not expect it work and it shouldn't work. I haven't, either. But I'd be inclined to think that it

Re: writing iso image to blank dvd

On 12/05/2016 04:18 AM, Tim wrote: Allegedly, on or about 04 December 2016, Samuel Sieb sent: I haven't tried using dd to write an optical disk. I would not expect it work and it shouldn't work. I haven't, either. But I'd be inclined to think that it would. If your ISO file is simply an

Re: writing iso image to blank dvd

An alternative is cdrskin which is part of the libburnia project which uses libburn. I've had good success with it burning both DVD's and Bluray discs. It has a cdrecord like command line interface. http://scdbackup.sourceforge.net/cdrskin_eng.html Thanks, Richard

Re: writing iso image to blank dvd

Allegedly, on or about 04 December 2016, Samuel Sieb sent: > I haven't tried using dd to write an optical disk. I would not expect > it work and it shouldn't work. I haven't, either. But I'd be inclined to think that it would. If your ISO file is simply an image of what is going to burnt to

Re: writing iso image to blank dvd

On 12/03/16 20:12, jd1008 wrote: > Any ideas? > > As root: > > # time dd if=/tmp/Fedora-Workstation-Live-x86_64-24-1.2.iso of=/dev/sr0 > bs=128K > dd: failed to open ‘/dev/sr0’: Read-only file system > > real0m0.04s > user0m0.00s > sys 0m0.00s > # ls -l /dev/sr0 > brw-rw+ 1 root

Re: writing iso image to blank dvd

On 12/04/2016 06:20 PM, jd1008 wrote: I dont know who wrote the above comment starting with "Really?", but the responder obviously has not tried to write an iso file to blank media using dd. I advise the responder to try it for him/her self. If you followed the quotes or the email thread, you

Re: writing iso image to blank dvd

On 12/04/2016 06:31 PM, Jack Craig wrote: its my suggestion he' missing the mkisofs step that wrapped the iso in a bootable/fs/partition form. you could never boot an iso image unless it was as above... The point that he has an .ISO file means that someone has already run mkisofs (or

Re: writing iso image to blank dvd

On 12/04/2016 07:31 PM, Jack Craig wrote: On Sun, Dec 4, 2016 at 6:20 PM, jd1008 > wrote: On 12/04/2016 01:03 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote: On Sat, 3 Dec 2016 19:05:54 -0800, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 12/03/2016 05:58 PM,

Re: writing iso image to blank dvd

its my suggestion he' missing the mkisofs step that wrapped the iso in a bootable/fs/partition form. you could never boot an iso image unless it was as above... On Sun, Dec 4, 2016 at 6:20 PM, jd1008 wrote: > > > On 12/04/2016 01:03 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote: > >> On Sat, 3

Re: writing iso image to blank dvd

On 12/04/2016 01:03 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote: On Sat, 3 Dec 2016 19:05:54 -0800, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 12/03/2016 05:58 PM, jd1008 wrote: Yes, I know gui apps work. But I am a very old unix/linux user and I have ALWAYS used dd to write iso images onto blank media, and then boot that

Re: writing iso image to blank dvd

On Sat, 3 Dec 2016 19:05:54 -0800, Samuel Sieb wrote: > On 12/03/2016 05:58 PM, jd1008 wrote: > > Yes, I know gui apps work. > > But I am a very old unix/linux user and I have ALWAYS used dd to write > > iso images onto blank media, > > and then boot that media. > > Why is it that current linux

Re: writing iso image to blank dvd

On 12/03/2016 08:51 PM, Jon LaBadie wrote: On Sat, Dec 03, 2016 at 06:12:58PM -0700, jd1008 wrote: Any ideas? As root: # time dd if=/tmp/Fedora-Workstation-Live-x86_64-24-1.2.iso of=/dev/sr0 bs=128K dd: failed to open ‘/dev/sr0’: Read-only file system real0m0.04s user0m0.00s sys

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On Sat, Dec 03, 2016 at 06:12:58PM -0700, jd1008 wrote: > Any ideas? > > As root: > > # time dd if=/tmp/Fedora-Workstation-Live-x86_64-24-1.2.iso of=/dev/sr0 > bs=128K > dd: failed to open ‘/dev/sr0’: Read-only file system > > real0m0.04s > user0m0.00s > sys 0m0.00s > # ls -l

Re: writing iso image to blank dvd

On 12/03/2016 05:58 PM, jd1008 wrote: Yes, I know gui apps work. But I am a very old unix/linux user and I have ALWAYS used dd to write iso images onto blank media, and then boot that media. Why is it that current linux versions of dd cannot write to blank media??? Really? I've never heard of

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see writing lead in/out for cdrom, see mkisofs... cdrtools On Sat, Dec 3, 2016 at 5:58 PM, jd1008 wrote: > > > On 12/03/2016 06:47 PM, Jack Craig wrote: > >> >> >> On Sat, Dec 3, 2016 at 5:12 PM, jd1008 jd1...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> Any ideas? >> >>

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On 12/03/2016 06:47 PM, Jack Craig wrote: On Sat, Dec 3, 2016 at 5:12 PM, jd1008 > wrote: Any ideas? As root: # time dd if=/tmp/Fedora-Workstation-Live-x86_64-24-1.2.iso of=/dev/sr0 bs=128K dd: failed to open ‘/dev/sr0’:

Re: writing iso image to blank dvd

On Sat, Dec 3, 2016 at 5:12 PM, jd1008 wrote: > Any ideas? > > As root: > > # time dd if=/tmp/Fedora-Workstation-Live-x86_64-24-1.2.iso of=/dev/sr0 > bs=128K > dd: failed to open ‘/dev/sr0’: Read-only file system > > real0m0.04s > user0m0.00s > sys 0m0.00s > # ls -l

writing iso image to blank dvd

Any ideas? As root: # time dd if=/tmp/Fedora-Workstation-Live-x86_64-24-1.2.iso of=/dev/sr0 bs=128K dd: failed to open ‘/dev/sr0’: Read-only file system real0m0.04s user0m0.00s sys 0m0.00s # ls -l /dev/sr0 brw-rw+ 1 root cdrom 11, 0 Dec 4 00:55 /dev/sr0 I have an icon on