Re: Adding Menu items in gnome3 of F16

2012-01-06 Thread Shibi
On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 7:28 AM, Gregory P. Ennis po...@pomec.net wrote: Everyone, I would like to add some simple menu items in gnome3 of F16, and have not figured out how to do this yet.  I tried alacarte, but it is broken giving me a message that gmenu has not been installed.  There is no

Re: [OT] Hybrid 64/32 kernel ???

2012-01-06 Thread Bryn M. Reeves
On 01/06/2012 03:52 AM, John Wendel wrote: Sorry if this is too off topic, but it's bugging me and I can't find it on Google ... I saw a post/web page somewhere (can't find it now) that seemed to say that some kernel gods were working on a kernel with a new memory model (which I didn't

Re: About expelling Linda and similar people

2012-01-06 Thread Tim
On Thu, 2012-01-05 at 11:56 -0600, Mike Chambers wrote: I don't read or even browse every single email/topic that comes through, so I dont' know anything bout this Linda person. Is there a particular thread/convo she took part (so I can go back and check the archives) in that describes what

Re: Neal Becker Software Package..?

2012-01-06 Thread Tim
Tim: I participate in no web forums, because they're such a pain. And I've yet to see a single one to convince me otherwise. (insert word able between one and to) Joe Zeff: And as long as you never look, you never will. I said participate. Of course I've *seen* forums, that's how I *know*

Re: Openvpn under Fedora-16

2012-01-06 Thread Louis Lagendijk
On Fri, 2012-01-06 at 01:10 +0100, Timothy Murphy wrote: I can start openvpn with [tim@blanche ~]$ sudo systemctl start openvpn@client.service (My openvpn config file is /etc/openvpn/client.conf , which I think is more or less standard.) But I don't know how to turn it on permanently, eg I

Re: Openvpn under Fedora-16

2012-01-06 Thread Timothy Murphy
Louis Lagendijk wrote: I can start openvpn with [tim@blanche ~]$ sudo systemctl start openvpn@client.service (My openvpn config file is /etc/openvpn/client.conf , which I think is more or less standard.) But I don't know how to turn it on permanently, eg I get [tim@blanche ~]$ sudo

Re: Openvpn under Fedora-16

2012-01-06 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 06.01.2012 12:40, schrieb Louis Lagendijk: Do you want to run as client or as server? uninteresting because only the openvpn-config makes the difference running the service as server or client Clients are run from NetworkManager you will wonder but there are people out there which

Re: Can I install a 64-bit kernel on a F16 32-bit system

2012-01-06 Thread Stephen Gallagher
On Fri, 2012-01-06 at 01:38 -0500, bruce wrote: are you saying you want a 32 bit and a 64 bit os to run side by side, ie to boot in one, and then the other, with different partitions? or are you asking to run a mix of 32/64 apps? can you clarify what you're looking to accomplish? It

Re: Openvpn under Fedora-16

2012-01-06 Thread Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak
On 01/05/2012 07:10 PM, Timothy Murphy wrote: I can start openvpn with [tim@blanche ~]$ sudo systemctl start openvpn@client.service (My openvpn config file is /etc/openvpn/client.conf , which I think is more or less standard.) But I don't know how to turn it on permanently, eg I get

Re: Openvpn under Fedora-16

2012-01-06 Thread Louis Lagendijk
On Fri, 2012-01-06 at 08:55 -0500, Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak wrote: On 01/05/2012 07:10 PM, Timothy Murphy wrote: I can start openvpn with [tim@blanche ~]$ sudo systemctl start openvpn@client.service (My openvpn config file is /etc/openvpn/client.conf , which I think is more or less

Re: Adding Menu items in gnome3 of F16

2012-01-06 Thread Gregory P. Ennis
On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 7:28 AM, Gregory P. Ennis po...@pomec.net wrote: Everyone, I would like to add some simple menu items in gnome3 of F16, and have not figured out how to do this yet. I tried alacarte, but it is broken giving me a message that gmenu has not been installed. There is no

Re: Openvpn under Fedora-16

2012-01-06 Thread Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak
On 01/06/2012 09:02 AM, Louis Lagendijk wrote: ln -s /lib/systemd/system/openvpn\@.service \ /etc/systemd/system/openvpn\@client.service This is incorrect: you will have to provide the name of the configuration to start as part of the service name See myprevious mail:

Re: Openvpn under Fedora-16

2012-01-06 Thread Louis Lagendijk
On Fri, 2012-01-06 at 09:07 -0500, Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak wrote: On 01/06/2012 09:02 AM, Louis Lagendijk wrote: ln -s /lib/systemd/system/openvpn\@.service \ /etc/systemd/system/openvpn\@client.service This is incorrect: you will have to provide the name of the configuration to

Re: Openvpn under Fedora-16

2012-01-06 Thread Louis Lagendijk
On Fri, 2012-01-06 at 13:40 +0100, Timothy Murphy wrote: Louis Lagendijk wrote: I can start openvpn with [tim@blanche ~]$ sudo systemctl start openvpn@client.service (My openvpn config file is /etc/openvpn/client.conf , which I think is more or less standard.) But I don't know how

Re: Can I install a 64-bit kernel on a F16 32-bit system

2012-01-06 Thread Frank Murphy
On 06/01/12 13:40, Stephen Gallagher wrote: My answer would be: This will probably work, but it's likely not going to gain you anything that the 32-bit kernel with PAE cannot do. Would that depend on whether 4+ mb of ram? -- Regards, Frank Murphy UTF_8 Encoded Friend of fedoraproject.org

Re: [389-users] Problem with ds setup

2012-01-06 Thread Rich Megginson
On 01/06/2012 12:57 AM, Israel Nelken wrote: Update: Guillaume's suggestion to comment out the nss-related lines works - thanks! However, it seems that there is a bug? Yes. Sounds like a bug in mod_nss. I'm currently replacing a number of computers in my lab with new ones, and the issue

Re: Can I install a 64-bit kernel on a F16 32-bit system

2012-01-06 Thread n2xssvv.g02gfr12930
On 06/01/12 03:59, John Wendel wrote: I just bought more memory for a box that has F16 32-bit installed. Can I install a 64-bit kernel and leave the userland 32-bit? Thanks, John The short answer as far as I know is NO! Unless you have 32bit applications that specifically require

Re: Can I install a 64-bit kernel on a F16 32-bit system

2012-01-06 Thread Stephen Gallagher
On Fri, 2012-01-06 at 14:23 +, Frank Murphy wrote: On 06/01/12 13:40, Stephen Gallagher wrote: My answer would be: This will probably work, but it's likely not going to gain you anything that the 32-bit kernel with PAE cannot do. Would that depend on whether 4+ mb of ram? PAE

Re: Adding Menu items in gnome3 of F16

2012-01-06 Thread Paul W. Frields
On Fri, Jan 06, 2012 at 08:03:19AM -0600, Gregory P. Ennis wrote: On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 7:28 AM, Gregory P. Ennis po...@pomec.net wrote: Everyone, I would like to add some simple menu items in gnome3 of F16, and have not figured out how to do this yet. I tried alacarte, but it is broken

Re: users Digest, Vol 95, Issue 31

2012-01-06 Thread Timothy Davis
On 01/06/2012 07:00 AM, users-requ...@lists.fedoraproject.org wrote: Subject: Can I install a 64-bit kernel on a F16 32-bit system From: John Wendel jwende...@comcast.net Date: 01/05/2012 10:59 PM To: Community support for Fedora users users@lists.fedoraproject.org I just bought more memory

Re: Can I install a 64-bit kernel on a F16 32-bit system

2012-01-06 Thread Jim
On 01/06/2012 09:48 AM, n2xssvv.g02gfr12930 wrote: On 06/01/12 03:59, John Wendel wrote: I just bought more memory for a box that has F16 32-bit installed. Can I install a 64-bit kernel and leave the userland 32-bit? Thanks, John The short answer as far as I know is NO! Unless you

Re: Can I install a 64-bit kernel on a F16 32-bit system

2012-01-06 Thread Richard Shaw
On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 10:41 AM, Jim binary...@comcast.net wrote: There is still a lot 32 apps out there you can't run on a 64 bit install. That is why I went back to 32 bit apps on my 32/64 box. I haven't run into any 32 bit app that didn't work, but you do have to have the appropriate 32-bit

Re: Can I install a 64-bit kernel on a F16 32-bit system

2012-01-06 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 06.01.2012 17:41, schrieb Jim: There is still a lot 32 apps out there you can't run on a 64 bit install. That is why I went back to 32 bit apps on my 32/64 box. this is simply an urban legend you can install ANY 32bit app und x86_64 fedora and you can install ANY 32bit library with yum

Re: f16 - locked out again

2012-01-06 Thread Ian Chapman
On 01/07/2012 12:44 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: But now my question is: does anyone have a notebook with a sealed battery and if so, how do they recover when nothing works? When you cannot switch to another console and the power button does nothing? How do you force a boot if you can't pull all

gscan2pdf problem

2012-01-06 Thread Steven Stern
I have an HP 8500 printer/scanner and am trying to scan from gscan2pdf. When I initiate a scan, the paper is fed from the document feeder, but no content is transferred into it. Scanning from xsane works as expected. Any ideas? -- -- Steve -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: f16 - locked out again

2012-01-06 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 01/06/2012 12:35 PM, Ian Chapman wrote: On 01/07/2012 12:44 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: But now my question is: does anyone have a notebook with a sealed battery and if so, how do they recover when nothing works? When you cannot switch to another console and the power button does nothing?

Re: Adding Menu items in gnome3 of F16

2012-01-06 Thread Gregory P. Ennis
On Fri, Jan 06, 2012 at 08:03:19AM -0600, Gregory P. Ennis wrote: On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 7:28 AM, Gregory P. Ennis po...@pomec.net wrote: Everyone, I would like to add some simple menu items in gnome3 of F16, and have not figured out how to do this yet. I tried alacarte, but it is broken

Re: f16 - locked out again

2012-01-06 Thread Pete Travis
I've noticed that occasionally the authentication box doesn't come up, but you can still type in your password and press enter to unlock the session. I suspect killing the screensaver process from another tty would get you in as well. I haven't bothered to track down the cause, but I know the

Re: f16 - locked out again

2012-01-06 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 01/06/2012 01:28 PM, Pete Travis wrote: I've noticed that occasionally the authentication box doesn't come up, but you can still type in your password and press enter to unlock the session. I suspect killing the screensaver process from another tty would get you in as well. h.

Re: f16 - locked out again

2012-01-06 Thread Stephen Gallagher
On Fri, 2012-01-06 at 11:44 -0500, Robert Moskowitz wrote: This happens once in a while, but this is the 2nd time this week, though the symtoms were different. The latest occurance, I locked the screen ctl-alt-l and came back later to use the system. I hit an arrow key which normally

Re: About expelling Linda and similar people

2012-01-06 Thread Heinz Diehl
On 06.01.2012, M. Fioretti wrote: Please don't embarass yourself by replying to messages without reading them entirely. Had you actually read what I posted, you would know very well that: [] Do what you want. I don't care. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To

Re: gscan2pdf problem

2012-01-06 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/06/2012 11:36 AM, Steven Stern wrote: I have an HP 8500 printer/scanner and am trying to scan from gscan2pdf. When I initiate a scan, the paper is fed from the document feeder, but no content is transferred into it. Scanning from xsane

Re: Neal Becker Software Package..?

2012-01-06 Thread Christopher Svanefalk
On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 12:30 PM, Tim ignored_mail...@yahoo.com.au wrote: Tim: I participate in no web forums, because they're such a pain. And I've yet to see a single one to convince me otherwise. (insert word able between one and to) Joe Zeff: And as long as you never look, you

Re: gscan2pdf problem [SOLVED]

2012-01-06 Thread Steven Stern
On 01/06/2012 01:42 PM, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: On 01/06/2012 11:36 AM, Steven Stern wrote: I have an HP 8500 printer/scanner and am trying to scan from gscan2pdf. When I initiate a scan, the paper is fed from the document feeder, but no content is transferred into it. Scanning from

Re: Neal Becker Software Package..?

2012-01-06 Thread Claude Jones
On 1/6/2012 2:48 PM, Christopher Svanefalk wrote: Forums, when implemented properly, are superior to any kind of mailing list. silly flamer, next time I want your opinion, I'll give you one - what on earth is the point of such a post? you're welcome to that view, but, not to impose it (by

Re: f16 - locked out again

2012-01-06 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 01/06/2012 12:55 PM, Stephen Gallagher wrote: On Fri, 2012-01-06 at 11:44 -0500, Robert Moskowitz wrote: This happens once in a while, but this is the 2nd time this week, though the symtoms were different. The latest occurance, I locked the screenctl-alt-l and came back later to use the

Re: Neal Becker Software Package..?

2012-01-06 Thread Joe Zeff
On 01/06/2012 12:26 PM, Claude Jones wrote: On 1/6/2012 2:48 PM, Christopher Svanefalk wrote: Forums, when implemented properly, are superior to any kind of mailing list. silly flamer, next time I want your opinion, I'll give you one - what on earth is the point of such a post? you're

Re: Neal Becker Software Package..?

2012-01-06 Thread Claude Jones
On 1/6/2012 3:54 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: just because he has the temerity to express an opinion other than yours read his words, Joe - he didn't express the matter as an opinion, but as a proclamation; the phrasing is precisely the kind of sophomoric posturing that leads to endless disputes - as I

F16-X86_64-Live-KDE won't boot on XPS 17

2012-01-06 Thread linux guy
I have a new Dell XPS17 laptop. (i7, 16 GB RAM, nvidia 555 video device, Windows 7 installed) I am trying to run F16-x86_64-Live-KDE on it via a USB flash device. It find the USB device. grub(2) runs. I can select the kernel. It starts the boot process. It hangs with the following message:

Re: Neal Becker Software Package..?

2012-01-06 Thread Joe Zeff
On 01/06/2012 01:06 PM, Claude Jones wrote: read his words, Joe - he didn't express the matter as an opinion, but as a proclamation; the phrasing is precisely the kind of sophomoric posturing that leads to endless disputes ...and that you found offensive, even when there was no sign that he

Re: Neal Becker Software Package..?

2012-01-06 Thread Claude Jones
On 1/6/2012 4:19 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: Pointing out that he was expressing his opinion as though it were a proven fact was OK; we all do it on occasion, and deserve to be called on it. Doing it in a way that was almost certain to offend him was going too far, especially when you're claiming to be

Re: find problem

2012-01-06 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 06Jan2012 12:43, Dean S. Messing de...@sharplabs.com wrote: | On my F13 machine, | | find / \! -fstype ext4 -prune -o -print | | prints every file that is in an ext4 filesystem mounted on /, and prunes | those in any other type of fs. | | On my F15 the same command prints nothing.

Re: Yum update/bug alert

2012-01-06 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Thu, 05 Jan 2012 14:39:54 -0500, RM (Robert) wrote: I want to know that MY system has updates needed to apply, not there has been updates announced. This is what we have tools like YUM for. It could be you're also facing some of the issues discussed in the following thread:

RE: F16-X86_64-Live-KDE won't boot on XPS 17

2012-01-06 Thread Alan J. Gagne
I have a new Dell XPS17 laptop. (i7, 16 GB RAM, nvidia 555 video device, Windows 7 installed) I am trying to run F16-x86_64-Live-KDE on it via a USB flash device. It find the USB device. grub(2) runs. I can select the kernel. It starts the boot process. It hangs with the following message:

Re: find problem

2012-01-06 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 07Jan2012 08:28, I wrote: | On 06Jan2012 12:43, Dean S. Messing de...@sharplabs.com wrote: | | On my F13 machine, | | | | find / \! -fstype ext4 -prune -o -print | | | | prints every file that is in an ext4 filesystem mounted on /, and prunes | | those in any other type of fs. | | | |

Re: find problem

2012-01-06 Thread Dean S. Messing
On 06 January, 2012 at 3:47pm, Cameron Simpson wrote: On 06Jan2012 12:43, Dean S. Messing de...@sharplabs.com wrote: | On my F13 machine, | | find / \! -fstype ext4 -prune -o -print | | prints every file that is in an ext4 filesystem mounted on /, and prunes | those in any other

Re: F16-X86_64-Live-KDE won't boot on XPS 17

2012-01-06 Thread Dean S. Messing
On 06 January 2012 at 6:17pm, Alan J. Gagne wrote: What video card are you using with the i5 server. Not sure if this is your issue but I just did a lot of research before buying a new 17 laptop and avoided systems with Nvidia video that had the Optimus technology. Seems there is a lot

Re: F16-X86_64-Live-KDE won't boot on XPS 17

2012-01-06 Thread linux guy
Thanks for the reply. The laptop has the 3D screen and does NOT have the optimus card. As far as I know, its a plain NVIDIA GeForce GT 555M 3GB graphics card. How could I run lspci prior to booting to find out ? With grub2, is there a way to force a graphical boot that wouldn't invoke the

Re: F16-X86_64-Live-KDE won't boot on XPS 17

2012-01-06 Thread linux guy
What video card does your M4600 have and which spin (x86, x86_64, KDE, etc) did you install ? Did the Live spins run on your laptop ? Did you install from a Live spin or directly ? Thanks -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options:

Re: find problem

2012-01-06 Thread Dean S. Messing
On 06 January 2012 at 15:59pm, Cameron Simpson wrote: On 07Jan2012 08:28, I wrote: | On 06Jan2012 12:43, Dean S. Messing de...@sharplabs.com wrote: | | On my F13 machine, | | | | find / \! -fstype ext4 -prune -o -print | | | | prints every file that is in an ext4 filesystem

RE: F16-X86_64-Live-KDE won't boot on XPS 17

2012-01-06 Thread Alan J. Gagne
Thanks for the reply. The laptop has the 3D screen and does NOT have the optimus card. As far as I know, its a plain NVIDIA GeForce GT 555M 3GB graphics card. How could I run lspci prior to booting to find out ? With grub2, is there a way to force a graphical boot that wouldn't invoke the

Re: F16-X86_64-Live-KDE won't boot on XPS 17

2012-01-06 Thread Dean S. Messing
What video card does your M4600 have and which spin (x86, x86_64, KDE, etc) did you install ? Video card: Quadro 1000M (and the Nvidia binary driver built via akmod) Spin: Fedora-15-x86_64-DVD.iso I also customised during installation so I have all the same tools and libs). I am running

Re: F16-X86_64-Live-KDE won't boot on XPS 17

2012-01-06 Thread Dean S. Messing
On 06 January 2012 at 6:17pm, Alan J. Gagne wrote: What video card are you using with the i5 server. Not sure if this is your issue but I just did a lot of research before buying a new 17 laptop and avoided systems with Nvidia video that had the Optimus technology. Seems there is a

Re: F16-X86_64-Live-KDE won't boot on XPS 17

2012-01-06 Thread linux guy
I get the boot parameters when I press Tab with grub2. Here is what its using. vmlinuz0 initrd=initrd0.img root=live:UUID= rootfstype=vfat ro live img quiet rhgb rd.luks=0 rd.md=0 rd.dm=0 Should I change anything ? The BIOS has no option to turn off Optimus. -- users mailing list

Re: F16-X86_64-Live-KDE won't boot on XPS 17

2012-01-06 Thread linux guy
I wonder if it would make a difference if I installed directly and then tried to boot. Are you dual booting ? Thanks, BTW, for taking the time to reply to my thread. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options:

Fedora 15 x64 stunning performance (vs Win7).

2012-01-06 Thread Quicksort
Hardware platform: Dell Studio XPS, Core i7 950, 8Mb L3 Cache. Operating systems: Fedora 15 x64 / Windows 7 x64 Ultimate Hi everybody, I have developed a sorting/searching library written in assembly language. As long as one stays in the L1 Cache (in place physical sorts) speeds are identical,

Re: F16-X86_64-Live-KDE won't boot on XPS 17

2012-01-06 Thread linux guy
I got it to boot further by selecting start in basic graphics mode under Troubleshooting options in grub2. However, it hangs when starting KDE. However, I am able to command line session going. I am able to log in as liveuser. I am able to su to root. Now what should I do ? How do I do the

Re: find problem

2012-01-06 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 06Jan2012 15:50, Dean S. Messing de...@sharplabs.com wrote: | On 06 January, 2012 at 3:47pm, Cameron Simpson wrote: | On 06Jan2012 12:43, Dean S. Messing de...@sharplabs.com wrote: | | On my F13 machine, | | | | find / \! -fstype ext4 -prune -o -print | | | | prints every file

RE: F16-X86_64-Live-KDE won't boot on XPS 17

2012-01-06 Thread Alan J. Gagne
I got it to boot further by selecting start in basic graphics mode under Troubleshooting options in grub2. However, it hangs when starting KDE. However, I am able to command line session going. I am able to log in as liveuser. I am able to su to root. Now what should I do ? How do I do the

Re: find problem

2012-01-06 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 06Jan2012 16:04, Dean S. Messing de...@sharplabs.com wrote: | On 06 January 2012 at 15:59pm, Cameron Simpson wrote: | It is also worth noting that your find may not find nested ext4 mounts. | Supposing an ext4 mount point is mounted inside an ext3 mount? Your | prune will prevent find from

Re: Fedora 15 x64 stunning performance (vs Win7).

2012-01-06 Thread Konstantin Svist
On 01/06/2012 04:35 PM, Quicksort wrote: Hardware platform: Dell Studio XPS, Core i7 950, 8Mb L3 Cache. Operating systems: Fedora 15 x64 / Windows 7 x64 Ultimate Hi everybody, I have developed a sorting/searching library written in assembly language. As long as one stays in the L1 Cache (in

Re: Very frustrated with F16

2012-01-06 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Thu, 2012-01-05 at 19:30 -0700, Paolo Galtieri wrote: Couldn't find the config-editor program. I did fix the problem using the gnome-tweak-tool program. Paolo I am sorry thwat was a typo. It is condiguration editor under system tools. It i called gconf-editor from the command line On

Re: F16-X86_64-Live-KDE won't boot on XPS 17

2012-01-06 Thread Dean S. Messing
On 06 January 2012 at 5:31pm, Linux guy wrote: I get the boot parameters when I press Tab with grub2. Fedora 15 uses grub1. I know nothing about using grub2. Here is what its using. vmlinuz0 initrd=initrd0.img root=live:UUID= rootfstype=vfat ro live img quiet rhgb rd.luks=0 rd.md=0

Re: F16-X86_64-Live-KDE won't boot on XPS 17

2012-01-06 Thread Dean S. Messing
On 06 January 2012 at 5:32pm Linux guy wrote: I wonder if it would make a difference if I installed directly and then tried to boot. It very well might. It's what I would do, but that's because I have no experience booting from a USB device. I also have little experience dual booting so your

Re: find problem

2012-01-06 Thread Dean S. Messing
On 06 January 2012 at 9:53pm, Cameron Simpson wrote: Ok, so per my test suggestion, what does: find / \! -fstype ext4 -print -prune show? It prints just the root. (I.e. / appears alone on a line.) What is that saying? Is it useful to go: find / \! -type d -fstype ext4 -print

Re: find problem

2012-01-06 Thread Dean S. Messing
In doing more experimenting with find, I discovered that / is evidently fstype rootfs, whatever that is. Looking in /etc/mtab I see: rootfs / rootfs rw 0 0 and /dev/mapper/vg00-lv_root / ext4 rw,relatime,user_xattr,acl,barrier=1,stripe=32,data=ordered 0 0 In fact, find /