Re: f20 - gedit
On 18 December 2013 20:42, bitlord bitlord0...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, 2013-12-18 at 12:49 -0500, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
Well here comes the questions on 'where is it now'. Of course since I
skipped f18 f19, these may be 'old' issues
So with gedit, where 'preferences'? I need to turn off line wrap so I
can use it to edit various config files. Meanwhile, back to vi.
It uses appmenu in gnome-shell
https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/GnomeShell/Design/Whiteboards/AppMenu
(just as example), but probably should have some fallback solution on
NONgnome-shell desktops
AppMenu is only used when running under GNOME, when using any other DE
it's not used.
FWIW, you can get the old behaviour back under GNOME by editing the
'org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.xsettings overrides' key:
gsettings set org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.xsettings overrides
{'Gtk/ShellShowsAppMenu': 0}
In some apps like gedit this should make the AppMenu contain only on
entry Quit, and Preferences and About are moved back to their place
in the main gedit window. In some other apps, e.g. Nautilus, the
Preferences and About entries are duplicated, so they appear twice
once in the AppMenu and once in the menu you get when you click the
gear icon on the Nautilus toolbar.
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Re: F20: system does not resume from hibernate
On Dec 19, 2013, at 12:10 AM, Ranjan Maitra maitra.mbox.igno...@inbox.com wrote: Hello, I have been putting my F20 laptop to hibernate using systemctl hibernate: everything works fine, except that starting up has usually ended up doing a reboot and going to the login screen. Make sure you have enough swap space. By default the installer may not create enough because it doesn't use the hibernation calculation, which is roughly 2x memory for a laptop with 4GB - 16GB of RAM. Chris Murphy -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: F20: system does not resume from hibernate
On 12/19/2013 09:39 AM, Chris Murphy wrote: On Dec 19, 2013, at 12:10 AM, Ranjan Maitra maitra.mbox.igno...@inbox.com wrote: Hello, I have been putting my F20 laptop to hibernate using systemctl hibernate: everything works fine, except that starting up has usually ended up doing a reboot and going to the login screen. Make sure you have enough swap space. By default the installer may not create enough because it doesn't use the hibernation calculation, which is roughly 2x memory for a laptop with 4GB - 16GB of RAM. Chris Murphy My box (8 GB mem, 20Gb swap space) does no resume after hibernating, but boots normally (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=948177) Joachim Backes -- Fedora release 20 (Heisenbug) Kernel-3.12.5-302.fc20.x86_64 Joachim Backes joachim.bac...@rhrk.uni-kl.de https://www-user.rhrk.uni-kl.de/~backes -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: gmvault fails on fedora 17
On Thu, 19 Dec 2013 07:32:44 +0100 M. Fioretti mfiore...@nexaima.net wrote: This is why, while being perfectly aware that Fedora 17 is unsupported, that even those other packages may stop working etc.. I'd really like to know what, exactly, makes gmvault fail in that way, on that system. Fedora 17 has python 2.7 as can be seen and python modules built against 2.7 (normal practise) Check the src, and see if you need to install some lib* https://github.com/gaubert/gmvault/tree/v1.8-beta-20130321 You won't get many to check for you. -- Regards, Frank www.frankly3d.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Fedora 19 packages on F20
On Thu, 19 Dec 2013 01:16:03 -0600 Ranjan Maitra maitra.mbox.igno...@inbox.com wrote: which is what would happen if we just had a rolling release model That was argued to death on @devel it lost -- Regards, Frank www.frankly3d.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: f20 strange local repo behaviour
On Wed, 18 Dec 2013 18:24:07 -0500 Robert Moskowitz r...@htt-consult.com wrote: when I edited the yum.repos.d files to point to my local repos, I got the following error doing a yum update: Error: Package: gnutls-utils-3.1.17-3.fc20.i686 (updates) Requires: libopts.so.25 You could try using --skip-broken to work around the problem You could try running: rpm -Va --nofiles --nodigest I have the same number of files locally that I am seeing on the mirrors, so what gives? Is there perhaps a permission problem? I used rsync to build my repo: Why not use yum*local, never had a problem with it. and use repomanage --help (yum-utils) to keep N number of versions, in case downgrade foo needed. -- Regards, Frank www.frankly3d.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: f20 - gedit
On Thu, 19 Dec 2013 10:07:01 +0200
Ahmad Samir ahmadsamir3...@gmail.com wrote:
On 18 December 2013 20:42, bitlord bitlord0...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, 2013-12-18 at 12:49 -0500, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
Well here comes the questions on 'where is it now'. Of course
since I skipped f18 f19, these may be 'old' issues
So with gedit, where 'preferences'? I need to turn off line wrap
so I can use it to edit various config files. Meanwhile, back to
vi.
It uses appmenu in gnome-shell
https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/GnomeShell/Design/Whiteboards/AppMenu
(just as example), but probably should have some fallback solution
on NONgnome-shell desktops
AppMenu is only used when running under GNOME, when using any other DE
it's not used.
FWIW, you can get the old behaviour back under GNOME by editing the
'org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.xsettings overrides' key:
gsettings set org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.xsettings overrides
{'Gtk/ShellShowsAppMenu': 0}
In some apps like gedit this should make the AppMenu contain only on
entry Quit, and Preferences and About are moved back to their place
in the main gedit window.
Confirm
used dconf-editor instead to set the overrides and now those entries
appear within gedit.
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Re: Fedora 19 packages on F20
On 19.12.2013 07:46, Joe Zeff wrote: On 12/18/2013 10:42 PM, Ranjan Maitra wrote: Off a fresh install of F20 because upgrade did not work spectacularly, I noticed that there are a number of F19 packages (including some from rpmfusion) on my machine. That just means that there's not a newer version available. Fedora doesn't do a mass repackaging for every version, and that's a Good Thing. Imagine how much more you'd need to download for an upgrade if they did. That just means that someone haven done his job or there was an error during package rebuild which hasn't been fixed yet (correct me if I'm wrong but there is something like mass rebuild in Fedora). Please file bugzilla report against this packages but excluding that from rpmfussion. Mateusz Marzantowicz -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Fedora 19 packages on F20
On Thu, 19 Dec 2013 11:17:46 +0100 Mateusz Marzantowicz mmarzantow...@osdf.com.pl wrote: ownload for an upgrade if they did. That just means that someone haven done his job or there was an error during package rebuild which hasn't been fixed yet (correct me if I'm wrong but there is something like mass rebuild in Fedora). Please file bugzilla report against this packages but excluding that from rpmfussion. Wrong, yum update was used (check earlier threads from op) yum distro-sync is your friend. -- Regards, Frank www.frankly3d.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: F20: system does not resume from hibernate
Did you insert the RESUME disk (i.e. your swap partition) into your linux statement in the grub menu? e,g, linux /vmlinuz-3.11.9-100.fc18.x86_64 root=UUID=722d9f6f-867b-4c04-a340-ba3caa23c42f ro rd.md=0 rd.lvm=0 rd.dm=0 vconsole.keymap=sg rd.luks=0 LANG=en_US.UTF-8 resume=UUID=ec23581a-b819-4f21-af67-87802223e983 suomi On 12/19/2013 08:10 AM, Ranjan Maitra wrote: Hello, I have been putting my F20 laptop to hibernate using systemctl hibernate: everything works fine, except that starting up has usually ended up doing a reboot and going to the login screen. What am I doing wrong? Note that I am using a commandline interface in exactly the same manner as F19 two days ago. Any suggestions? This (hibernate) is an important feature for me! Many thanks for any help you are able to give! Best wishes, Ranjan -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: f20 - gedit
On 12/19/2013 03:07 AM, Ahmad Samir wrote:
On 18 December 2013 20:42, bitlord bitlord0...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, 2013-12-18 at 12:49 -0500, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
Well here comes the questions on 'where is it now'. Of course since I
skipped f18 f19, these may be 'old' issues
So with gedit, where 'preferences'? I need to turn off line wrap so I
can use it to edit various config files. Meanwhile, back to vi.
It uses appmenu in gnome-shell
https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/GnomeShell/Design/Whiteboards/AppMenu
(just as example), but probably should have some fallback solution on
NONgnome-shell desktops
AppMenu is only used when running under GNOME, when using any other DE
it's not used.
I do not have a program 'appmenu' installed. How do I get it?
FWIW, you can get the old behaviour back under GNOME by editing the
'org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.xsettings overrides' key:
what file is this in?
gsettings set org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.xsettings overrides
{'Gtk/ShellShowsAppMenu': 0}
In some apps like gedit this should make the AppMenu contain only on
entry Quit, and Preferences and About are moved back to their place
in the main gedit window. In some other apps, e.g. Nautilus, the
Preferences and About entries are duplicated, so they appear twice
once in the AppMenu and once in the menu you get when you click the
gear icon on the Nautilus toolbar.
thank you for the tips.
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how closely does fedora 20 adhere to the FHS? if FHS is relevant amymore.
while i appreciate the formalization of the Filesystem Hierarchy Standard (FHS), it's certainly been a while since it's been updated: http://www.pathname.com/fhs/ is it still used as a file/directory layout standard? how *is* it used these days? surely things have changed somewhat since 2004, although the general concepts of the FHS are still totally valid. rday -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: f20 - gedit
On 12/19/2013 09:02 PM, Edward M wrote:
On Thu, 19 Dec 2013 10:07:01 +0200
Ahmad Samir ahmadsamir3...@gmail.com wrote:
On 18 December 2013 20:42, bitlord bitlord0...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, 2013-12-18 at 12:49 -0500, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
Well here comes the questions on 'where is it now'. Of course
since I skipped f18 f19, these may be 'old' issues
So with gedit, where 'preferences'? I need to turn off line wrap
so I can use it to edit various config files. Meanwhile, back to
vi.
It uses appmenu in gnome-shell
https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/GnomeShell/Design/Whiteboards/AppMenu
(just as example), but probably should have some fallback solution
on NONgnome-shell desktops
AppMenu is only used when running under GNOME, when using any other DE
it's not used.
FWIW, you can get the old behaviour back under GNOME by editing the
'org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.xsettings overrides' key:
gsettings set org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.xsettings overrides
{'Gtk/ShellShowsAppMenu': 0}
In some apps like gedit this should make the AppMenu contain only on
entry Quit, and Preferences and About are moved back to their place
in the main gedit window.
Confirm
used dconf-editor instead to set the overrides and now those entries
appear within gedit.
What did you change? I just went through all of dconf-editor listed
items and did not recognize anything to change that would turn on
settings/preferences in gedit let alone directly turn off word wrap.
And for Nautilus the same. How do I switch to trees view from places?
Probably will need to take this to the gnome list. But there is no
help-about so that I can find out what version of gnome we are running
here to ask about.
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Re: how closely does fedora 20 adhere to the FHS? if FHS is relevant amymore.
On Thu, 19 Dec 2013 07:51:59 -0500 Robert P. J. Day rpj...@crashcourse.ca wrote: is it still used as a file/directory layout standard? how *is* it used these days? surely things have changed somewhat since 2004, although the general concepts of the FHS are still totally valid. rday Witin Fedora, @devel list may give a more definitive answer. -- Regards, Frank www.frankly3d.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: f20 - gedit
On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 08:05:49AM -0500, Robert Moskowitz wrote: Confirm used dconf-editor instead to set the overrides and now those entries appear within gedit. What did you change? I just went through all of dconf-editor listed items and did not recognize anything to change that would turn on settings/preferences in gedit let alone directly turn off word wrap. When you open gedit in Fed20 + Gnome-3.10 a gedit icon appears in the top bar. If you click on this and choose 'preferences' you will see under 'Text Wrapping' the entries: 'enable text wrapping' and 'do not split words over two lines'. Is this what you are looking for. I assume you are using standard Gnome-3.10 and not classic mode. I know nothing about classic mode (don't use it). Is this icon not visible in your install? AV -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Fedora 19 packages on F20
On Thu, 19 Dec 2013 10:22:14 + Frank Murphy frankl...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, 19 Dec 2013 11:17:46 +0100 Mateusz Marzantowicz mmarzantow...@osdf.com.pl wrote: ownload for an upgrade if they did. That just means that someone haven done his job or there was an error during package rebuild which hasn't been fixed yet (correct me if I'm wrong but there is something like mass rebuild in Fedora). Please file bugzilla report against this packages but excluding that from rpmfussion. Wrong, yum update was used (check earlier threads from op) yum distro-sync is your friend. Actually not in this case. It was a clean install. Thanks, Ranjan -- Regards, Frank www.frankly3d.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org -- Important Notice: This mailbox is ignored: e-mails are set to be deleted on receipt. Please respond to the mailing list if appropriate. For those needing to send personal or professional e-mail, please use appropriate addresses. FREE 3D MARINE AQUARIUM SCREENSAVER - Watch dolphins, sharks orcas on your desktop! Check it out at http://www.inbox.com/marineaquarium -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Fedora 19 packages on F20
On Thu, 19 Dec 2013 07:36:39 -0600 Ranjan Maitra maitra.mbox.igno...@inbox.com wrote: Actually not in this case. It was a clean install. I would still run yum --releasever=20 distro-sync --skip-broken -- Regards, Frank www.frankly3d.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: F20: system does not resume from hibernate
On Thu, 19 Dec 2013 10:13:59 +0100 Joachim Backes joachim.bac...@rhrk.uni-kl.de wrote: On 12/19/2013 09:39 AM, Chris Murphy wrote: On Dec 19, 2013, at 12:10 AM, Ranjan Maitra maitra.mbox.igno...@inbox.com wrote: Hello, I have been putting my F20 laptop to hibernate using systemctl hibernate: everything works fine, except that starting up has usually ended up doing a reboot and going to the login screen. Make sure you have enough swap space. By default the installer may not create enough because it doesn't use the hibernation calculation, which is roughly 2x memory for a laptop with 4GB - 16GB of RAM. Chris Murphy My box (8 GB mem, 20Gb swap space) does no resume after hibernating, but boots normally (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=948177) Joachim Backes Yes, I have enough swap (16 GB, 8 GB memory). I had no problems with F19 or with systems upgraded from F19. According to this bug report, I need to add resume=swapdevice to the grub line. According to suomi, I need to add: resume=UUID=ec23581a-b819-4f21-af67-87802223e983 Which one, and if the latter where do I get this UUID number from? Many thanks! Ranjan -- Fedora release 20 (Heisenbug) Kernel-3.12.5-302.fc20.x86_64 Joachim Backes joachim.bac...@rhrk.uni-kl.de https://www-user.rhrk.uni-kl.de/~backes -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org -- Important Notice: This mailbox is ignored: e-mails are set to be deleted on receipt. Please respond to the mailing list if appropriate. For those needing to send personal or professional e-mail, please use appropriate addresses. FREE 3D EARTH SCREENSAVER - Watch the Earth right on your desktop! Check it out at http://www.inbox.com/earth -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Fedora 19 packages on F20
On 12/19/13 21:36, Ranjan Maitra wrote: On Thu, 19 Dec 2013 10:22:14 + Frank Murphy frankl...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, 19 Dec 2013 11:17:46 +0100 Mateusz Marzantowicz mmarzantow...@osdf.com.pl wrote: ownload for an upgrade if they did. That just means that someone haven done his job or there was an error during package rebuild which hasn't been fixed yet (correct me if I'm wrong but there is something like mass rebuild in Fedora). Please file bugzilla report against this packages but excluding that from rpmfussion. Wrong, yum update was used (check earlier threads from op) yum distro-sync is your friend. Actually not in this case. It was a clean install. As previously pointed out, there is nothing to be concerned about. There are cases where a package is not rebuilt to fc20. If you look at the Packages directory in the F20 DVD you'd find dbus-java-2.7-12.fc19.x86_64.rpm gstreamer-plugins-espeak-0.4.0-2.fc19.x86_64.rpm keybinder-0.3.0-2.fc19.x86_64.rpm liblqr-1-0.4.1-5.fc19.x86_64.rpm rubygem-therubyracer-0.11.0-2.fc19.x86_64.rpm and I would expect there to be others in the repos for things not on the DVD. -- Getting tired of non-Fedora discussions and self-serving posts -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: F20: system does not resume from hibernate
On 12/19/2013 02:47 PM, Ranjan Maitra wrote: On Thu, 19 Dec 2013 10:13:59 +0100 Joachim Backes joachim.bac...@rhrk.uni-kl.de wrote: On 12/19/2013 09:39 AM, Chris Murphy wrote: On Dec 19, 2013, at 12:10 AM, Ranjan Maitra maitra.mbox.igno...@inbox.com wrote: Hello, I have been putting my F20 laptop to hibernate using systemctl hibernate: everything works fine, except that starting up has usually ended up doing a reboot and going to the login screen. Make sure you have enough swap space. By default the installer may not create enough because it doesn't use the hibernation calculation, which is roughly 2x memory for a laptop with 4GB - 16GB of RAM. Chris Murphy My box (8 GB mem, 20Gb swap space) does no resume after hibernating, but boots normally (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=948177) Joachim Backes Yes, I have enough swap (16 GB, 8 GB memory). I had no problems with F19 or with systems upgraded from F19. According to this bug report, I need to add resume=swapdevice to the grub line. According to suomi, I need to add: resume=UUID=ec23581a-b819-4f21-af67-87802223e983 You can also use resume=/dev/sdxy (your swap partition). That's more simple :-) Joachim Backes -- Fedora release 20 (Heisenbug) Kernel-3.12.5-302.fc20.x86_64 Joachim Backes joachim.bac...@rhrk.uni-kl.de https://www-user.rhrk.uni-kl.de/~backes -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: F20: system does not resume from hibernate
On Thu, 19 Dec 2013 14:51:33 +0100 Joachim Backes joachim.bac...@rhrk.uni-kl.de wrote: On 12/19/2013 02:47 PM, Ranjan Maitra wrote: On Thu, 19 Dec 2013 10:13:59 +0100 Joachim Backes joachim.bac...@rhrk.uni-kl.de wrote: On 12/19/2013 09:39 AM, Chris Murphy wrote: On Dec 19, 2013, at 12:10 AM, Ranjan Maitra maitra.mbox.igno...@inbox.com wrote: Hello, I have been putting my F20 laptop to hibernate using systemctl hibernate: everything works fine, except that starting up has usually ended up doing a reboot and going to the login screen. Make sure you have enough swap space. By default the installer may not create enough because it doesn't use the hibernation calculation, which is roughly 2x memory for a laptop with 4GB - 16GB of RAM. Chris Murphy My box (8 GB mem, 20Gb swap space) does no resume after hibernating, but boots normally (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=948177) Joachim Backes Yes, I have enough swap (16 GB, 8 GB memory). I had no problems with F19 or with systems upgraded from F19. According to this bug report, I need to add resume=swapdevice to the grub line. According to suomi, I need to add: resume=UUID=ec23581a-b819-4f21-af67-87802223e983 You can also use resume=/dev/sdxy (your swap partition). That's more simple :-) Absolutely, thanks! But where do I find this value? I can't see it on my df: Filesystem Type Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/root ext4 9.5G 3.3G 5.8G 37% / devtmpfs devtmpfs 3.7G 0 3.7G 0% /dev tmpfs tmpfs 3.7G 148K 3.7G 1% /dev/shm tmpfs tmpfs 3.7G 604K 3.7G 1% /run tmpfs tmpfs 3.7G 0 3.7G 0% /sys/fs/cgroup tmpfs tmpfs 3.7G 20K 3.7G 1% /tmp /dev/sda1 ext4 477M 80M 369M 18% /boot /dev/sda5 ext4 969M 2.3M 900M 1% /usr/local /dev/sda6 ext4 205G 70G 125G 36% /home /dev/sda7 ext4 3.8G 527M 3.1G 15% /var However, free yields: Mem: 773236412538646478500 2544 37264 334996 -/+ buffers/cache: 8816046850760 Swap: 16383996 0 16383996 and I did set it up using anaconda. Many thanks again! Ranjan FREE ONLINE PHOTOSHARING - Share your photos online with your friends and family! Visit http://www.inbox.com/photosharing to find out more! -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Fedora 19 packages on F20
On 19.12.2013 11:22, Frank Murphy wrote: On Thu, 19 Dec 2013 11:17:46 +0100 Mateusz Marzantowicz mmarzantow...@osdf.com.pl wrote: ownload for an upgrade if they did. That just means that someone haven done his job or there was an error during package rebuild which hasn't been fixed yet (correct me if I'm wrong but there is something like mass rebuild in Fedora). Please file bugzilla report against this packages but excluding that from rpmfussion. Wrong, yum update was used (check earlier threads from op) yum distro-sync is your friend. How yum distro-sync command is related to availability of package in software repositories? Packages are either there or not regardless of command you issued locally to install/update them. It's also worth noting that it might be important to have packages for exact distro release because of changes in run time environment, build system and other policies from one Fedora release to another. Package from fc17 may work well in fc20 but I don't think it's encouraged behavior. Mateusz Marzantowicz -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Fedora 19 packages on F20
On Thu, 19 Dec 2013 15:18:18 +0100 Mateusz Marzantowicz mmarzantow...@osdf.com.pl wrote: On 19.12.2013 11:22, Frank Murphy wrote: On Thu, 19 Dec 2013 11:17:46 +0100 Mateusz Marzantowicz mmarzantow...@osdf.com.pl wrote: ownload for an upgrade if they did. That just means that someone haven done his job or there was an error during package rebuild which hasn't been fixed yet (correct me if I'm wrong but there is something like mass rebuild in Fedora). Please file bugzilla report against this packages but excluding that from rpmfussion. Wrong, yum update was used (check earlier threads from op) yum distro-sync is your friend. How yum distro-sync command is related to availability of package in software repositories? Packages are either there or not regardless of command you issued locally to install/update them. Because it will pull in the packages available for that release. Regardless whther NVR is higher\lower. yum update will not. maintainers can pull out of mass rebuilds and build when they are ready. -- Regards, Frank www.frankly3d.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: gmvault fails on fedora 17
On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 09:50:01 AM +, Frank Murphy wrote: Fedora 17 has python 2.7 as can be seen and python modules built against 2.7 (normal practise) Check the src, and see if you need to install some lib* https://github.com/gaubert/gmvault/tree/v1.8-beta-20130321 You won't get many to check for you. The install page http://gmvault.org/install.html explicitly says Gmvault has been heavily tested with Python 2.6.x and Python 2.7.x versions Besides, I get the same errors in a standard installation and in the virtualenv sandbox. considering all this, it's almost certain that it could take me weeks to figure out what the heck is happening, so I won't do it. But I am NOT asking anybody else to do it for me and I never did. My original email does NOT say do my work for me because I don't feel like it. It only, explicitly says any feedback is appreciated. I am just checking if somebody already HAPPENS to know what the answer may be. -- M. Fioretti http://mfioretti.com http://stop.zona-m.net Your own civil rights and the quality of your life heavily depend on how software is used *around* you -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: F20: system does not resume from hibernate
On Thu, 19 Dec 2013 07:59:45 -0600 Ranjan Maitra maitra.mbox.igno...@inbox.com wrote: On Thu, 19 Dec 2013 14:51:33 +0100 Joachim Backes joachim.bac...@rhrk.uni-kl.de wrote: On 12/19/2013 02:47 PM, Ranjan Maitra wrote: On Thu, 19 Dec 2013 10:13:59 +0100 Joachim Backes joachim.bac...@rhrk.uni-kl.de wrote: On 12/19/2013 09:39 AM, Chris Murphy wrote: On Dec 19, 2013, at 12:10 AM, Ranjan Maitra maitra.mbox.igno...@inbox.com wrote: Hello, I have been putting my F20 laptop to hibernate using systemctl hibernate: everything works fine, except that starting up has usually ended up doing a reboot and going to the login screen. Make sure you have enough swap space. By default the installer may not create enough because it doesn't use the hibernation calculation, which is roughly 2x memory for a laptop with 4GB - 16GB of RAM. Chris Murphy My box (8 GB mem, 20Gb swap space) does no resume after hibernating, but boots normally (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=948177) Joachim Backes Yes, I have enough swap (16 GB, 8 GB memory). I had no problems with F19 or with systems upgraded from F19. According to this bug report, I need to add resume=swapdevice to the grub line. According to suomi, I need to add: resume=UUID=ec23581a-b819-4f21-af67-87802223e983 You can also use resume=/dev/sdxy (your swap partition). That's more simple :-) Absolutely, thanks! But where do I find this value? I can't see it on my df: Answering my own question: after some searching, swapon -s gives me the mount point. Will now test out the hibernation. Thanks! Ranjan FREE 3D MARINE AQUARIUM SCREENSAVER - Watch dolphins, sharks orcas on your desktop! Check it out at http://www.inbox.com/marineaquarium -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: F20: system does not resume from hibernate
On Thu, 19 Dec 2013 08:50:04 -0600 Ranjan Maitra maitra.mbox.igno...@inbox.com wrote: You can also use resume=/dev/sdxy (your swap partition). That's more simple :-) Absolutely, thanks! But where do I find this value? I can't see it on my df: Answering my own question: after some searching, swapon -s lsblk,sudo blkid are also good to remember. -- Regards, Frank www.frankly3d.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: F20: system does not resume from hibernate (SOLVED!)
On Thu, 19 Dec 2013 14:52:04 + Frank Murphy frankl...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, 19 Dec 2013 08:50:04 -0600 Ranjan Maitra maitra.mbox.igno...@inbox.com wrote: You can also use resume=/dev/sdxy (your swap partition). That's more simple :-) Absolutely, thanks! But where do I find this value? I can't see it on my df: Answering my own question: after some searching, swapon -s lsblk,sudo blkid are also good to remember. and the resume works. Unfortunate why I had to go through this circus on F20. F19 had no issues, also none with F20 upgraded from F19. Ranjan -- Regards, Frank www.frankly3d.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org -- Important Notice: This mailbox is ignored: e-mails are set to be deleted on receipt. Please respond to the mailing list if appropriate. For those needing to send personal or professional e-mail, please use appropriate addresses. FREE 3D MARINE AQUARIUM SCREENSAVER - Watch dolphins, sharks orcas on your desktop! Check it out at http://www.inbox.com/marineaquarium -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: What to try instead of gnome - Re: f20 - gedit
On Wed, 2013-12-18 at 17:32 -0500, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 12/18/2013 05:20 PM, Dennis Kaptain wrote: Mate is a fork of Gnome2. I use it and like it a lot. This is selectable at install? The desktop environments that you can select at install time are pretty limited; I don't think MATE is on the list (although I could be wrong). But it's easily added after install with yum groupinstall 'MATE Desktop' I'm not a Gnome 3 hater, I actually like it for the most part, now that it's a lot more customizable than it was when it first came out. But I still have some use cases where it doesn't work so well. For one thing, I have not yet figured out a way to launch an application on the second monitor of a dual-head setup. Even if the launch icon is located on the second screen, it always launches on the first screen. I can then move it over manually, but this isn't really a good option when the two monitors are really two different inputs to the same output device, and the application is windowless full-screen. MATE has the same issue. I ended up having to use Xfce on those machines. It's nice that there are choices. --Greg -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: how closely does fedora 20 adhere to the FHS? if FHS is relevant amymore.
HI On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 7:51 AM, Robert P. J. Day wrote: while i appreciate the formalization of the Filesystem Hierarchy Standard (FHS), it's certainly been a while since it's been updated: http://www.pathname.com/fhs/ is it still used as a file/directory layout standard? how *is* it used these days? surely things have changed somewhat since 2004, although the general concepts of the FHS are still totally valid. There have been some recent efforts to update it recently and Fedora does follow it https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Guidelines#Filesystem_Layout Rahul -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: hacked - looking for doc/suggestions on hardening/securing systems from the start
Allegedly, on or about 18 December 2013, Rick Stevens sent: 3. Make sure you enforce complex passwords and require them to be rotated at least every 90 days. I take issue with the continually changing passwords idea. If you get hacked, changing the password after the event is too late. And if they installed a backdoor, changing your password will be completely pointless. If you haven't been hacked, you're just making life harder for yourself, trying to remember all these passwords. Or making things less secure, because you have to write them down. A reasonably good password can't be guessed, or likely to be got at by a dictionary attack without attracting attention. i.e. Even if my password was simply just the word, red, how many guesses, out of all the possible words in a dictionary, would it take to guess it? You can't partially crack it, like in the movies where they show that three letters in a password have been correctly guessed, it's complete pass/fail. Trying to find the right password has just got to be detectable. And the chances of someone guessing that my password might be purplepolkadotsonmydog are next to infinitely impossible. You'd have to guess what words, and in what order. Of course, completely stupid passwords (password, remember, the username logon repeated as the password) might be guessed in the first few attempts, as the first attack words on the list to try. You really need something that detects attempt to crack passwords, responds appropriately to thwart the attacks while they happen, and immediately notifies you that an attempt is happening as it happens (e.g. email to a separate system), so you know to check, and the notification isn't stored on somewhere that will be deleted during the attack. -- [tim@localhost ~]$ uname -rsvp Linux 3.9.10-100.fc17.x86_64 #1 SMP Sun Jul 14 01:31:27 UTC 2013 x86_64 All mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted, there is no point trying to privately email me, I will only read messages posted to the public lists. George Orwell's '1984' was supposed to be a warning against tyranny, not a set of instructions for supposedly democratic governments. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
FedUp 18 - 19 Orphans
I just updated from Fedora 18 to 19 with fedup. After the update I have many orphaned packages : # package-cleanup --orphans | wc -l 635 When I examine them I see things like fedora-release, zlib, and such. They mostly exist alongside their identical fedora 19 versions : # package-cleanup --orphans | grep libogg libogg-1.3.0-5.fc18.x86_64 # yum list libogg Loaded plugins: auto-update-debuginfo, verify Installed Packages libogg.x86_64 2:1.3.0-5.fc18 installed libogg.i686 2:1.3.0-5.fc19 installed libogg.x86_64 2:1.3.0-5.fc19 installed Any idea what's going on? signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: FedUp 18 - 19 Orphans
On Thu, 19 Dec 2013 12:16:16 -0500 Kevin H. Hobbs hob...@ohio.edu wrote: I just updated from Fedora 18 to 19 with fedup. Any idea what's going on? package-cleanup --dupes packagecleanup --cleandupes -- Regards, Frank www.frankly3d.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: hacked - looking for doc/suggestions on hardening/securing systems from the start
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 12/19/2013 12:16 PM, Tim wrote: You really need something that detects attempt to crack passwords, responds appropriately to thwart the attacks while they happen, and immediately notifies you that an attempt is happening as it happens (e.g. email to a separate system), so you know to check, and the notification isn't stored on somewhere that will be deleted during the attack. I'm kind of with you on the password rotation part. I do certainly see the need for routinely changing non-local (ie internet) passwords, but I'm not always convinced rotating internal ones make sense in every case. I personally use fail2ban for any internet facing system that has, for instance, ssh open. It works well and I get notification of password intrusion attempts if the login fails X number of times. Personally, I have mine set to disable login permanently instead of setting a time limit, then I can re-enable when I have time. As far as SSH goes I also have only one user account that is ssh accessible so I don't need to worry about my kids accounts, etc. - -- Mark Haney Network Administrator/IT Support Practichem W:919-714-8428 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJSsytUAAoJEDgEuzPE0JQveb8H/RHTo+KqbqWH1Nm+2Dq9avV9 qzorJplqPpus8f12mggl2Ep51k4bY7kp8nsY0GCVzHaFggzVkB8EphEhnTnBXlYY IWJyQ1VyWiJJa7CpL4fH/Vb/dK2n57rBDh8GDgsRrafALr9dXzFGtVkJtC2MQ/NP FndAK9Gd9dHrxKFrtyAFSszYuiHgdbCZB7VHLkCWaYJD8CwqdiWljV5i51pZedTX XvTSq57fKRwgUpSJXj4LbEONJSaXCk11Y/mrIP1rZW6Ya2HcSS3ga6uVBSeAGZGt 3aoc7UBDZ9xJk5EKk4yuZnlUhPbXT94Lmge7NuTX+vKtBv/c0n6lnn2zUQKn4Ck= =sjeu -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: F20: system does not resume from hibernate
Allegedly, on or about 19 December 2013, Ranjan Maitra sent: According to this bug report, I need to add resume=swapdevice to the grub line. I have to ask: We should *we* have to do that? Surely, the *installation* *routine* should be setting that up. -- [tim@localhost ~]$ uname -rsvp Linux 3.9.10-100.fc17.x86_64 #1 SMP Sun Jul 14 01:31:27 UTC 2013 x86_64 All mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted, there is no point trying to privately email me, I will only read messages posted to the public lists. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: [389-users] Password Failure Lockout doesn't seem to work
These issues are happening on a Solaris Sparc server, most of our infrastructure is Solaris Sparc, with some Solaris X86 servers. The Solaris equivalent of NSCD called svc:/system/name-service-cache:default is running. I am not familiar with authconfig, I can look for the Solaris equivalent to confirm, but I do know that the name-service-cache does cache some account information, but regularly refreshes it. I can also confirm the accounts having the issue are not local accounts. On 12/11/2013 1:41 PM, Justin Edmands wrote: just to think outside of what you have already mentioned: client nscd service running? User authconfig to show if you have caching and local authorization settings: authconfig-tui change things on a test client and then tail the /var/log/slapd/servername/access (and other) logs while grepping for the user: tail -f /var/log/slapd/dirsrv1.blah.blah/access | grep bobby or even tail -f /var/log/slapd/dirsrv1.blah.blah/* | grep bobby On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 1:35 PM, JLPicard jlpicar...@hotmail.com mailto:jlpicar...@hotmail.com wrote: Yes, It shows up in the dse.ldif file: root@my-ldapHost01% grep nsslapd-pwpolicy-local dse.ldif nsslapd-pwpolicy-local: on It also shows up on ldapsearch: root@my-ldapHost01% ldapsearch -x -ZZ -LLL -W -h my-ldapHost01.my-domain.com http://my-ldapHost01.my-domain.com -b dc=my-domain,dc=com -D 'cn=directory manager' -b 'cn=config' -s base 'objectClass=*' 'nsslapd-pwpolicy-local' Enter LDAP Password: dn: cn=config nsslapd-pwpolicy-local: on On 11/26/2013 9:00 AM, Ludwig Krispenz wrote: Hi, did you set: nsslapd-pwpolicy-local: on in cn=config ? Ludwig On 11/26/2013 02:13 PM, JLPicard wrote: Yes, I can, after 8 consecutive failed authentications, the account can still successfully query the DS with the correct password. % ldapsearch -x -ZZ -LLL -h my-ldapHost01.my-domain.com http://my-ldapHost01.my-domain.com -b dc=my-domain,dc=com -D uid=test-user-account,ou=people,dc=my-domain,dc=com -w badPword cn=test-user-account ldap_bind: Invalid credentials (49) % ldapsearch -x -ZZ -LLL -h my-ldapHost01.my-domain.com http://my-ldapHost01.my-domain.com -b dc=my-domain,dc=com -D uid=test-user-account,ou=people,dc=my-domain,dc=com -w badPword cn=test-user-account ldap_bind: Invalid credentials (49) % ldapsearch -x -ZZ -LLL -h my-ldapHost01.my-domain.com http://my-ldapHost01.my-domain.com -b dc=my-domain,dc=com -D uid=test-user-account,ou=people,dc=my-domain,dc=com -w badPword cn=test-user-account ldap_bind: Invalid credentials (49) % ldapsearch -x -ZZ -LLL -h my-ldapHost01.my-domain.com http://my-ldapHost01.my-domain.com -b dc=my-domain,dc=com -D uid=test-user-account,ou=people,dc=my-domain,dc=com -w badPword cn=test-user-account ldap_bind: Invalid credentials (49) % ldapsearch -x -ZZ -LLL -h my-ldapHost01.my-domain.com http://my-ldapHost01.my-domain.com -b dc=my-domain,dc=com -D uid=test-user-account,ou=people,dc=my-domain,dc=com -w badPword cn=test-user-account ldap_bind: Invalid credentials (49) % ldapsearch -x -ZZ -LLL -h my-ldapHost01.my-domain.com http://my-ldapHost01.my-domain.com -b dc=my-domain,dc=com -D uid=test-user-account,ou=people,dc=my-domain,dc=com -w badPword cn=test-user-account ldap_bind: Invalid credentials (49) % ldapsearch -x -ZZ -LLL -h my-ldapHost01.my-domain.com http://my-ldapHost01.my-domain.com -b dc=my-domain,dc=com -D uid=test-user-account,ou=people,dc=my-domain,dc=com -w badPword cn=test-user-account ldap_bind: Invalid credentials (49) % ldapsearch -x -ZZ -LLL -h my-ldapHost01.my-domain.com http://my-ldapHost01.my-domain.com -b dc=my-domain,dc=com -D uid=test-user-account,ou=people,dc=my-domain,dc=com -w badPword cn=test-user-account ldap_bind: Invalid credentials (49) % ldapsearch -x -ZZ -LLL -h my-ldapHost01.my-domain.com http://my-ldapHost01.my-domain.com -b dc=my-domain,dc=com -D uid=test-user-account,ou=people,dc=my-domain,dc=com -w goodPwrd cn=test-user-account dn: uid=test-user-account,ou=people,dc=my-domain,dc=com description: accountHasItsOwnPwdPolicy objectClass: posixAccount objectClass: shadowAccount objectClass: account objectClass: top
Re: hacked - looking for doc/suggestions on hardening/securing systems from the start
If you have not installed it, install denyhosts...it watches for ssh password attacks and locks out hosts automatically. It does limit the number of attempts someone gets before being completely locked out. On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 11:22 AM, Mark Haney mha...@practichem.com wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 12/19/2013 12:16 PM, Tim wrote: You really need something that detects attempt to crack passwords, responds appropriately to thwart the attacks while they happen, and immediately notifies you that an attempt is happening as it happens (e.g. email to a separate system), so you know to check, and the notification isn't stored on somewhere that will be deleted during the attack. I'm kind of with you on the password rotation part. I do certainly see the need for routinely changing non-local (ie internet) passwords, but I'm not always convinced rotating internal ones make sense in every case. I personally use fail2ban for any internet facing system that has, for instance, ssh open. It works well and I get notification of password intrusion attempts if the login fails X number of times. Personally, I have mine set to disable login permanently instead of setting a time limit, then I can re-enable when I have time. As far as SSH goes I also have only one user account that is ssh accessible so I don't need to worry about my kids accounts, etc. - -- Mark Haney Network Administrator/IT Support Practichem W:919-714-8428 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJSsytUAAoJEDgEuzPE0JQveb8H/RHTo+KqbqWH1Nm+2Dq9avV9 qzorJplqPpus8f12mggl2Ep51k4bY7kp8nsY0GCVzHaFggzVkB8EphEhnTnBXlYY IWJyQ1VyWiJJa7CpL4fH/Vb/dK2n57rBDh8GDgsRrafALr9dXzFGtVkJtC2MQ/NP FndAK9Gd9dHrxKFrtyAFSszYuiHgdbCZB7VHLkCWaYJD8CwqdiWljV5i51pZedTX XvTSq57fKRwgUpSJXj4LbEONJSaXCk11Y/mrIP1rZW6Ya2HcSS3ga6uVBSeAGZGt 3aoc7UBDZ9xJk5EKk4yuZnlUhPbXT94Lmge7NuTX+vKtBv/c0n6lnn2zUQKn4Ck= =sjeu -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
f20 - SD card dropping to read-only after suspend/resume
I have an SD card all the time in my Asus ee900 that I have just put f20 i386 on. I close the system regularly then open it up, unlock and do something. On f17, this was not a problem. I just realized that the SD card would become read-only after resume. i have to unmount it, remove it, and reinsert it to get it writeable. I also have to close the copy of Nautilus that was open and start a new copy to actually access the SD card (even though it shows listed). I know the problem is not just in Nautilus, because in a terminal window, I cannot cp a file to the SD card. A bug I guess? I am getting ready to do a reinstall on the system. I have learned a few things, see there was a BIG update last night (600Mb download for each i386 and x86_64). -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: hacked - looking for doc/suggestions on hardening/securing systems from the start
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 12/19/2013 12:44 PM, Roger Heflin wrote: If you have not installed it, install denyhosts...it watches for ssh password attacks and locks out hosts automatically. Yes, denyhosts is also a good package and one I've forgotten about. Thanks for the reminder of that one. After 4 years away from IT, I don't always recall things I've used before. - -- Mark Haney Network Administrator/IT Support Practichem W:919-714-8428 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJSszQhAAoJEDgEuzPE0JQvMFIH/R1FjDP5SRM1Umec0z9NiFQk jOgFAqBOZqyQvI1YOtwR9HMwcnkSY4/ioKtlxRXcZ0NNR5XzuyVq/9DDp85PClL5 HiJhioqi0TMEWwQSj6cAzdTQysMbJ3qKQNoHFoBXcWP3GBvDdbzx0RWh2N8NEc6P 2VmzIGYuScpfPV99IESjIA34Fo7Fe7djB0sxYZeD++PuqO5P4rFDRVBTD+VVZxSf gGSvGzwPmYm/Piwm8c8n1TfqaNl9LtT4qAgCmlYjjIg9xzkF5nv0QDoLKYOfs6Xh WUoGjDnvb3hHVvZINZojurpi//jrUh6RCruaEFrgHbRkOn8MvdGvksmtFy3ZGV8= =EHi+ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: F20: system does not resume from hibernate
On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 9:32 AM, Tim ignored_mail...@yahoo.com.au wrote: I have to ask: We should *we* have to do that? Surely, the *installation* *routine* should be setting that up. And how! -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: hacked - looking for doc/suggestions on hardening/securing systems from the start
On 12/18/2013 11:05 AM, bruce wrote: Hey guys. - subject says it all!! For a basic centos/fedora install. Need to have pointers/docs/suggestions/solid steps to actually harden/secure a system. I've looked at a bunch of different articles/sites, so I'm also turning here. Also, are there any good (i know) security lists/resources (people) I could talk to about remotely hiring for this process.. thanks 'ppreciate it!! Take a look at OSSEC. I have it on all my internet-accessible servers. -- -- Steve -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: F20: system does not resume from hibernate
On Thu, 19 Dec 2013 10:00:16 -0800 Steven Rosenberg stevenhrosenb...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 9:32 AM, Tim ignored_mail...@yahoo.com.au wrote: I have to ask: We should *we* have to do that? Surely, the *installation* *routine* should be setting that up. And how! Like it used to.or put in an rpm, installation of which does this FREE 3D EARTH SCREENSAVER - Watch the Earth right on your desktop! Check it out at http://www.inbox.com/earth -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: hacked - looking for doc/suggestions on hardening/securing systems from the start
On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 5:16 PM, Tim ignored_mail...@yahoo.com.au wrote: If you get hacked, changing the password after the event is too late. And if they installed a backdoor, changing your password will be completely pointless. If you haven't been hacked, you're just making life harder for yourself, trying to remember all these passwords. Or making things less secure, because you have to write them down. Correct. There was a paper published a while back (I wish I could find a reference, but my google-fu is failing me right now) that showed enforcing strong passwords and frequent changes reduced overall security, among other reasons because users tended to write them down rather than remember them. Also, in this situation, changing passwords at all on the system is madness. The only sane option is a complete reinstall (yes, using different passwords). You don't know what the intruder has left on your system. A fresh OS install and a scan of your data for hidden nastiness is needed. Tet -- Java is a DSL for taking large XML files and converting them to stack traces -- Bulat Shakirzyanov -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: hacked - looking for doc/suggestions on hardening/securing systems from the start
guys.. The project that the corrupt system is going to be driving will create a distributed network of systems, where the edge systems, are tied back into the central server(s). Think of the BOINC/SETI project, where you have a bunch of edge systems doing work and communicating back to the master system/process. The project was looking to use secure SSH in a manner, where there are public/private keys for the master/child servers(services) can comunicate with each other over the specified encrypted ports/tunnels. However, it occurs to me that if one of the master/child servers is hacked, then the person doing the hacking could get into the connected server via the SSH key/process. Comments/thoughts on options that can be considered viable/secure for the process of remotely accessing machines, that would allow for auto/programatic connection/xfer of data? thanks On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 1:04 PM, Steven Stern subscribed-li...@sterndata.com wrote: On 12/18/2013 11:05 AM, bruce wrote: Hey guys. - subject says it all!! For a basic centos/fedora install. Need to have pointers/docs/suggestions/solid steps to actually harden/secure a system. I've looked at a bunch of different articles/sites, so I'm also turning here. Also, are there any good (i know) security lists/resources (people) I could talk to about remotely hiring for this process.. thanks 'ppreciate it!! Take a look at OSSEC. I have it on all my internet-accessible servers. -- -- Steve -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Re: FedUp 18 - 19 Orphans
Frank wrote: package-cleanup --dupes packagecleanup --cleandupes Somewhere in there some some dependency leaves fc18 and starts ripping out large parts of fc19.. It looks to be perl # yum remove `package-cleanup --dupes | grep perl | grep fc18` ... Remove 67 Packages (+32 Dependent packages)... It looks like I'm going to have to fix these in small batches... signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: FedUp 18 - 19 Orphans
On Thu, 19 Dec 2013, Kevin H. Hobbs wrote: I just updated from Fedora 18 to 19 with fedup. After the update I have many orphaned packages : # package-cleanup --orphans | wc -l 635 When I examine them I see things like fedora-release, zlib, and such. They mostly exist alongside their identical fedora 19 versions : # package-cleanup --orphans | grep libogg libogg-1.3.0-5.fc18.x86_64 # yum list libogg Loaded plugins: auto-update-debuginfo, verify Installed Packages libogg.x86_64 2:1.3.0-5.fc18 installed libogg.i686 2:1.3.0-5.fc19 installed libogg.x86_64 2:1.3.0-5.fc19 installed Any idea what's going on? You seem to have had an incomplete update. You will need to tidy up manually, eg. with package-cleanup --dupes and package-cleanup --cleandupes . You may also need to use yum or rpm to remove some of the duplicates by hand if package-cleanup can't work out how to solve all the dependencies. Michael Young -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: hacked - looking for doc/suggestions on hardening/securing systems from the start
On Friday 20 of December 2013 03:46:13 Tim wrote: Allegedly, on or about 18 December 2013, Rick Stevens sent: 3. Make sure you enforce complex passwords and require them to be rotated at least every 90 days. I take issue with the continually changing passwords idea. using rotated passwords for ssh login is painful for human brain :) disabling passwd-auth and using ssh-key protected with single strong password is better for brain and security. for reducing services load and flood in /var/log/secure i suggest cut-off ipset rules based on ipdeny/dot/com and sshbl/org. BR, Paweł. -- gpg key fingerprint = 60B4 9886 AD53 EB3E 88BB 1EB5 C52E D01B 683B 9411 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Solved - Re: f20 - hostname
On 12/18/2013 06:01 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 12/18/2013 05:43 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 12/19/13 05:30, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 12/18/2013 04:08 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 12/19/13 03:57, Robert Moskowitz wrote: Yes. I have notes on this, and did the change. But past installs let me set it at install time via a dialog prompt. That is what I am asking about. Where did it get moved to??? It was taken out and, as explained, moved to a post-install utility. This was actually done in F19. Ah, like I said, I skipped f18 and 19. Now I remember putting in just the name, not the full fqdn. Will try that next time. I tend to do a number of installs on the test machine before trying it on the main box. This is a minor issue. Easy enough to correct. Not like figuring out what happened to gedit and nautilus. And getting updates to be applied at install time. Looks as if I need to correct myself. As Tom pointed out, there is now a place to enter that in the network spoke. Will look harder there next time. Going to do another install tomorrow. Also change the gui. Pretty sure that wasn't there in F19 and I failed to look there during the beta phase.. :-( It is right there on the Network Configuration screen. Down at the bottom under the list of interfaces. Just missed it last time. Spent too much time looking into each interface setting I guess... -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: f20 - customize installed software
Is this for real? Did they really dumb it down like this? For Gnome, all I can do is select things like include admin tools. Nothing about what admin tools. I cannot remove Evolution and substitute Thunderbird. I could go on, but you get the point. They made it too dumb. Or I am missing something here... On 12/18/2013 09:57 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: I did not find where I can really customize the software install. I can select Gnome 3 and a few packages, but I cannot specifically remove and add packages. Or at least I did not see a customize install button. Perhaps it was off my screen? The ASUS is a little short, but Alt-mouse did not move the dialog around to see if there was anything near the bottom. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: f20 - enabling update repo
Not figured out yet... On 12/18/2013 06:18 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: I see in http://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/20/html/Installation_Guide/index.html sec 8.1.4 that I am suppose to add: repo=http://fqdn/os/i386/ to the install command (pressing tab at boot time). My notes for f17 was to use url= But how to specify the updates repo? http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Anaconda/Kickstart has that in the kickstart file itself to use repo --name=updates and seems to warn against using a url that anaconda will find it? really? But what to put on the command line. I can't find that in the docs. I found in the f19 notes about using updates=url, so I tried that but this is something else. This is NOT for the updates repo. repo=url works for /os/i386/ just fine. But the install location dialog is showing that updates is greyed out. It takes time to do this' basically one try per day. So HOW do I specify the location of the updates repo, or at least get the dialog ungrey so I can add it there? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: FedUp 18 - 19 Orphans
Michael wrote: You may also need to use yum or rpm to remove some of the duplicates by hand if package-cleanup can't work out how to solve all the dependencies. The only bits of perl that I could not clean up seem to be perl and perl libs. I did : # rpm -q --provides perl-5.16.3-266.fc19.x86_64 /tmp/p19.txt # rpm -q --provides perl-5.16.3-245.fc18.x86_64 /tmp/p18.txt # diff /tmp/p18.txt /tmp/p19.txt and among the interesting bits of output was : 90d61 perl(Fatal) = 2.10 so then I did : # rpm -q --whatrequires perl(Fatal) perl-5.16.3-245.fc18.x86_64 redhat-lsb-languages-4.1-14.fc19.x86_64 # rpm -q --whatprovides perl(Fatal) perl-5.16.3-245.fc18.x86_64 so there is a F19 package that depends on a F18 package Yum tells me that perl(Fatal) comes from : # yum provides perl(Fatal) Loaded plugins: auto-update-debuginfo, verify perl-autodie-2.16-1.fc19.noarch : Replace functions with ones that succeed or die Repo: fedora Matched from: Provides: perl(Fatal) = 2.16 4:perl-5.16.3-245.fc18.x86_64 : Practical Extraction and Report Language Repo: @updates/18 Matched from: Provides: perl(Fatal) = 2.10 # yum list perl-autodie Loaded plugins: auto-update-debuginfo, verify Available Packages perl-autodie.noarch 2.16-1.fc19 fedora which did not get installed... # yum install perl-autodie ... Transaction check error: file /usr/share/man/man3/Fatal.3pm.gz from install of perl-autodie-2.16-1.fc19.noarch conflicts with file from package perl-4:5.16.3-245.fc18.x86_64 file /usr/share/man/man3/autodie.3pm.gz from install of perl-autodie-2.16-1.fc19.noarch conflicts with file from package perl-4:5.16.3-245.fc18.x86_64 file /usr/share/man/man3/autodie::exception.3pm.gz from install of perl-autodie-2.16-1.fc19.noarch conflicts with file from package perl-4:5.16.3-245.fc18.x86_64 file /usr/share/man/man3/autodie::exception::system.3pm.gz from install of perl-autodie-2.16-1.fc19.noarch conflicts with file from package perl-4:5.16.3-245.fc18.x86_64 file /usr/share/man/man3/autodie::hints.3pm.gz from install of perl-autodie-2.16-1.fc19.noarch conflicts with file from package perl-4:5.16.3-245.fc18.x86_64 because it conflicts with perl from f18... signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Dumb gdm question
Fedora 20 (from fedup) Dell Inspiron N7110 Intel Integrated Graphics Controller With Fedora 19, the GDM login screen would blank after a certain amount of time. With Fedora 20, this no longer happens. I would like to restore Fedora 19's behaviour, so I can leave the laptop on and access it remotely without having the GDM login screen showing. I can always just log in on the laptop and let the normal screen saver kick in (which works), but I'd rather revert to the previous behaviour. What / where GDM tweaks do I need to make in order to get this? /mde/ -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: f20 strange local repo behaviour
On 12/19/2013 04:55 AM, Frank Murphy wrote: On Wed, 18 Dec 2013 18:24:07 -0500 Robert Moskowitz r...@htt-consult.com wrote: when I edited the yum.repos.d files to point to my local repos, I got the following error doing a yum update: Error: Package: gnutls-utils-3.1.17-3.fc20.i686 (updates) Requires: libopts.so.25 You could try using --skip-broken to work around the problem You could try running: rpm -Va --nofiles --nodigest I have the same number of files locally that I am seeing on the mirrors, so what gives? Is there perhaps a permission problem? I used rsync to build my repo: Why not use yum*local, never had a problem with it. What is yum*local? Are you talking about yum updatelocal where I have the specific rpms local? Why? I have rsynced the WHOLE fedora/20/updates repo to a local server (over night via cron job) so I can update multiple systems. and use repomanage --help (yum-utils) to keep N number of versions, in case downgrade foo needed. But I have a repo that I rsynced? Why do I need repomanage? I looked at --help and did not see what this would do. Meanwhile man yum.conf SEEMS to imply that I could: baseurl=http://myrepo mirrorlists=unchanged failovermethod priority the later so it will use my provided baseurl first and only go to mirrorlists if mine is not available (I am at a conference) or a specific package is not on my repo for some reason. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Disable PulseAudio on a NAS
Hi, I don't think I'll need to have PA enabled on my NAS. What is the easiest way to *disable* it? -- john -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Cron vs. Whenjobs vs. Goaljobs
On 18Dec2013 00:43, Jonathan Ryshpan jonr...@pacbell.net wrote: * Frequently, I start the system, check my email and leave for breakfast; on these days, I'd like backup to start when I leave; I would invoke it by a shell script or whatever. * Other days, I stay on the system for a while; on these days I'd like cron to start the job whenever its algorithms think best. * I don't want to leave starting the job completely to a shell script run from a terminal, because I'd often forget to run it. If I can replace cron with at and get the desired result, I'll be happy. Cron's algorithms are pretty simple; the do things when you tell them to:-( If it were me I'd be doing this as follows: I have a flag command: https://bitbucket.org/cameron_simpson/css/src/tip/bin/flag I'd have a cron job for midnight that sets BACKUP_DUE to 1: flag BACKUP_DUE 1 I'd have a core script that runs the backup with not checks of controls. I presume you have such. I'd have a wrapper script that takes a lock, checks BACKUP_DUE. If false, do nothing, maybe report backup not due. If true, set it to false and dispatch the core script. Release lock. Untested hack: if mkdir /tmp/backup_lock then if flag BACKUP_DUE then flag BACKUP_DUE 0 core_backup_script 21 | mail the-sysadmin fi rmdir /tmp/backup_lock fi Have a cron job that fires at 10am or whenever that is fallback for your manual backup dispatch. Just an idea, -- Cameron Simpson c...@zip.com.au I made this letter longer than usual because I lack the time to make it shorter.- Pascal -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: rsync not backing up all files
On 18Dec2013 10:17, Robert Moskowitz r...@htt-consult.com wrote: Thanks for clarifying this for me. I suspected directories, but did not think I had THAT many! Obviously it was more than just directories. I will save this little find in my notes of things to check. Symlinks maybe. Or hardlinks (but you're not using -H). IIRC, the /lib/modulestree is heavily hardlinked if you keep multiple kernels around. Anyway, run a report on that find to count things by file type (dirs, symlinks, devices etc) and see what you get. Cheers, -- Cameron Simpson c...@zip.com.au Thought: Why does man kill? He kills for food. And not only for food: frequently there must be a beverage. - Woody Allen -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Disable PulseAudio on a NAS
On 12/19/2013 01:16 PM, John Obaterspok issued this missive: Hi, I don't think I'll need to have PA enabled on my NAS. What is the easiest way to *disable* it? Unless you log into a desktop environment, it shouldn't run. If you do log into a desktop, then go to the session startup config for that desktop and remove it. E.g., in my XFCE desktop, under Settings- Session and Startup, under the Application Startup tab, I'd remove PulseAudio Sound System. -- - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer, AllDigitalri...@alldigital.com - - AIM/Skype: therps2ICQ: 22643734Yahoo: origrps2 - -- - After a shooting spree, they always want to take the guns away - -from the people who didn't do it. - - -- William S.Burroughs - -- -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: f20 - gedit
On 12/19/2013 08:35 AM, Alexander Volovics wrote: On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 08:05:49AM -0500, Robert Moskowitz wrote: Confirm used dconf-editor instead to set the overrides and now those entries appear within gedit. What did you change? I just went through all of dconf-editor listed items and did not recognize anything to change that would turn on settings/preferences in gedit let alone directly turn off word wrap. When you open gedit in Fed20 + Gnome-3.10 a gedit icon appears in the top bar. If you click on this and choose 'preferences' you will see under 'Text Wrapping' the entries: 'enable text wrapping' and 'do not split words over two lines'. Is this what you are looking for. I assume you are using standard Gnome-3.10 and not classic mode. I know nothing about classic mode (don't use it). Is this icon not visible in your install? Fresh install. Have not applied the updates yet. I see that gedit icon on the top bar once gedit is running. It has a down arrow right next to it. I assume that lets me switch between copies of gedit if more than one is open. But neither left or right click on this icon produced anything. No action at all. Perhaps you enabled something else first for gnome? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
f20 - yum locally rebuilding deltas is so slow
On my Asus 900. I just started a yum update fire* libre* that took next ot no time to download from my local repo, but took over 10 min to build the local delta. Seems I am better of NOT having drpms available. hmmm... -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: f20 - yum locally rebuilding deltas is so slow
On Thu, 19 Dec 2013 17:30:08 -0500 Robert Moskowitz r...@htt-consult.com wrote: On my Asus 900. I just started a yum update fire* libre* that took next ot no time to download from my local repo, but took over 10 min to build the local delta. Seems I am better of NOT having drpms available. hmmm... But don't you have all the updates locally? If you have unlimited bandwidth, or a good monthly allowance 500gb+ disable them /etc/yum.conf deltarpm=0 -- Regards, Frank www.frankly3d.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: F20: system does not resume from hibernate
On Dec 19, 2013, at 11:16 AM, Ranjan Maitra maitra.mbox.igno...@inbox.com wrote: On Thu, 19 Dec 2013 10:00:16 -0800 Steven Rosenberg stevenhrosenb...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 9:32 AM, Tim ignored_mail...@yahoo.com.au wrote: I have to ask: We should *we* have to do that? Surely, the *installation* *routine* should be setting that up. And how! Like it used to.or put in an rpm, installation of which does this…. I'm confused whether this requires a kernel parameter to work correctly, or if it's something systemd should be managing better, and the resume= parameter is deprecated under systemd. If it requires this kernel parameter, it's anaconda that should write out the necessary parameter to /etc/default/grub so that it ends up in the grub.cfg. So a bug would need to be filed against anaconda. However, this may be the domain of systemd recently. http://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/systemd-suspend.service.html Chris Murphy -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: f20 - yum locally rebuilding deltas is so slow
On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 3:30 PM, Robert Moskowitz r...@htt-consult.com wrote: I just started a yum update fire* libre* that took next ot no time to download from my local repo, but took over 10 min to build the local delta. Seems I am better of NOT having drpms available. Yeah, if you have a local mirror there's no point in using delta RPMs (or mirroring them, you could happily exclude them from your rsync if you wanted). You don't need to save bandwidth over your LAN, do you? -T.C. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: f20 - yum locally rebuilding deltas is so slow
On 12/19/2013 05:36 PM, Frank Murphy wrote: On Thu, 19 Dec 2013 17:30:08 -0500 Robert Moskowitz r...@htt-consult.com wrote: On my Asus 900. I just started a yum update fire* libre* that took next ot no time to download from my local repo, but took over 10 min to build the local delta. Seems I am better of NOT having drpms available. hmmm... But don't you have all the updates locally? If you have unlimited bandwidth, or a good monthly allowance 500gb+ disable them /etc/yum.conf deltarpm=0 exactly what I am thinking. Just changed it and THAT is the behaviour I use to have. thanks -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: FedUp 18 - 19 Orphans
On Thu, 19 Dec 2013, Kevin H. Hobbs wrote: # yum install perl-autodie ... Transaction check error: file /usr/share/man/man3/Fatal.3pm.gz from install of perl-autodie-2.16-1.fc19.noarch conflicts with file from package perl-4:5.16.3-245.fc18.x86_64 file /usr/share/man/man3/autodie.3pm.gz from install of perl-autodie-2.16-1.fc19.noarch conflicts with file from package perl-4:5.16.3-245.fc18.x86_64 file /usr/share/man/man3/autodie::exception.3pm.gz from install of perl-autodie-2.16-1.fc19.noarch conflicts with file from package perl-4:5.16.3-245.fc18.x86_64 file /usr/share/man/man3/autodie::exception::system.3pm.gz from install of perl-autodie-2.16-1.fc19.noarch conflicts with file from package perl-4:5.16.3-245.fc18.x86_64 file /usr/share/man/man3/autodie::hints.3pm.gz from install of perl-autodie-2.16-1.fc19.noarch conflicts with file from package perl-4:5.16.3-245.fc18.x86_64 because it conflicts with perl from f18... You need to do both at the same time. Here yum shell is useful as it lets you gather a series of yum commands and run them in one batch. Try something like yum shell remove perl-5.16.3-245.fc18.x86_64 install perl-autodie run and if that works exit you may need to add other commands as well to sort out the dependencies. Michael Young -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: f20 - yum locally rebuilding deltas is so slow
On 12/19/2013 05:42 PM, T.C. Hollingsworth wrote: On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 3:30 PM, Robert Moskowitz r...@htt-consult.com wrote: I just started a yum update fire* libre* that took next ot no time to download from my local repo, but took over 10 min to build the local delta. Seems I am better of NOT having drpms available. Yeah, if you have a local mirror there's no point in using delta RPMs (or mirroring them, you could happily exclude them from your rsync if you wanted). You don't need to save bandwidth over your LAN, do you? I never pulled them in the past, but I got tired of the error messages, never adding the deltarpm=0. don't know why, so I decided to give it a try. Well it went bust, and I will delete them. Felt it was worth trying at least once. Ouch. :) -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: f20 - yum locally rebuilding deltas is so slow
On Dec 19, 2013, at 3:42 PM, T.C. Hollingsworth tchollingswo...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 3:30 PM, Robert Moskowitz r...@htt-consult.com wrote: I just started a yum update fire* libre* that took next ot no time to download from my local repo, but took over 10 min to build the local delta. Seems I am better of NOT having drpms available. Yeah, if you have a local mirror there's no point in using delta RPMs (or mirroring them, you could happily exclude them from your rsync if you wanted). You don't need to save bandwidth over your LAN, do you? Does anyone know exactly what's happening during the rebuild? I understand from light documentation how deltarpm works, what I'm not sure is if most of the time is spent reconstructing a virtual oldrpm from an installed rpm, or applying the delta, or writing out the new install? If it's not the former reconstruction aspect, it seems like a Btrfs aware deltarpm could simply write out the delta blocks to disk, which would be rather small, and then obsolete the old ones if the operation is successful. Fully rewriting the files isn't necessary by design with Btrfs. Chris Murphy -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
f20 - gnome-tweak-tools?
So I have been reading up release notes on f20 which leads me to release notes of gnome 3.10 and http://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/20/html/Release_Notes/sect-Release_Notes-Changes_for_Desktop.html 3.1.4 discusses gnome-tweak-tool No gnome-tweak-tool installed. so yum provides gnome-tweak-tool and No matches found What happened? Who stole it? ;) -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Acroread vs. ctrl/z
When Adobe acroread is run from a terminal, ctrl/z doesn't suspend it. ^Z appears on the terminal, which hangs until acroread terminates itself or ctrl/c is pressed on the terminal. However $ acroread starts acroread in the background and ctrl/z suspends all other programs, as expected. System is Fedora-19 with all updates installed. Has anyone else seen this? What's going on? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
reading/copying a drive??
HI. Took a drive from an older FC13 system, put it in a usb drive bay to read from a centos 6.5 system centos sees the drive, but only reports the drive as 350 M free, of a 640G drive.. centos doesn't show all the folders/files on the drive. I'm only seeing the vm/image files... any pointers to be able to see the rest of the drive?? All I do is click on the computer desktop icon and it apparently mounts the drive as required. thanks -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: f20 - yum locally rebuilding deltas is so slow
On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at a4:01 PM, Chris Murphy li...@colorremedies.com wrote: Does anyone know exactly what's happening during the rebuild? I understand from light documentation how deltarpm works, what I'm not sure is if most of the time is spent reconstructing a virtual oldrpm from an installed rpm, or applying the delta, or writing out the new install? It reconstructs a real honest-to-God RPM file that must match the shasum/GPG sig of the old one exactly, lest it be thrown out. (Those of us who've been around awhile might remember that in the past it couldn't handle changed config files properly, so deltas used to fail on various daemons all the time, greatly reducing their utility.) Said RPM is then passed on to rpm to update normally. rpm itself has no knowledge of this wizardry, it all happens in yum. See `man applydeltarpm` and /usr/share/doc/deltarpm/README for more detailed information about the underpinnings. Yum just shells out to it. If it's not the former reconstruction aspect, it seems like a Btrfs aware deltarpm could simply write out the delta blocks to disk, which would be rather small, and then obsolete the old ones if the operation is successful. Fully rewriting the files isn't necessary by design with Btrfs. That would be awesome, but yeah, rpm would have to get a lot smarter than it is currently. ;-) -T.C. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: f20 - gnome-tweak-tools?
On 12/19/2013 05:05 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: So I have been reading up release notes on f20 which leads me to release notes of gnome 3.10 and http://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/20/html/Release_Notes/sect-Release_Notes-Changes_for_Desktop.html 3.1.4 discusses gnome-tweak-tool No gnome-tweak-tool installed. so yum provides gnome-tweak-tool and No matches found What happened? Who stole it? ;) Yum install gnome-tweak-tool You search should have been [sdstern@sds-desk-2 ~]$ yum provides */gnome-tweak-tool 00:00 gnome-tweak-tool-3.10.1-2.fc20.noarch : A tool to customize advanced GNOME 3 : options Repo: fedora Matched from: Filename: /usr/share/doc/gnome-tweak-tool Filename: /usr/share/gnome-tweak-tool Filename: /usr/bin/gnome-tweak-tool -- -- Steve -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: f20 - yum locally rebuilding deltas is so slow
On Dec 19, 2013, at 4:14 PM, T.C. Hollingsworth tchollingswo...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at a4:01 PM, Chris Murphy li...@colorremedies.com wrote: Does anyone know exactly what's happening during the rebuild? I understand from light documentation how deltarpm works, what I'm not sure is if most of the time is spent reconstructing a virtual oldrpm from an installed rpm, or applying the delta, or writing out the new install? It reconstructs a real honest-to-God RPM file that must match the shasum/GPG sig of the old one exactly, lest it be thrown out. That sounds time consuming. I bet that's the big hit. Chris Murphy -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
F20 in VirtualBox VM
I am running VirtualBox under F19, and I wanted to try F20 in a VM, but I can't get it to install. With both the Live ISO and the full DVD iso, if I point the virtual DVD drive at the ISO, it boots into the main syslinux/Anaconda menu, but as soon as I select Install Fedora, the screen goes black and nothing ever happens. Has anyone installed F20 into a VirtualBox VM? Thanks, --Greg -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Acroread vs. ctrl/z
On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 11:07 PM, Jonathan Ryshpan jonr...@pacbell.netwrote: When Adobe acroread is run from a terminal, ctrl/z doesn't suspend it. ^Z appears on the terminal, which hangs until acroread terminates itself or ctrl/c is pressed on the terminal. However $ acroread starts acroread in the background and ctrl/z suspends all other programs, as expected. System is Fedora-19 with all updates installed. Has anyone else seen this? What's going on? Presumably acroread is trapping the Ctrl-Z. Whether that's a bug or a feature is a matter of conjecture. Programs can do pretty much what they like with their controlling terminal. It doesn't mean there's anything wrong with your system. poc -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: F20 in VirtualBox VM
On Dec 19, 2013, at 4:50 PM, Greg Woods wo...@ucar.edu wrote: I am running VirtualBox under F19, and I wanted to try F20 in a VM, but I can't get it to install. With both the Live ISO and the full DVD iso, if I point the virtual DVD drive at the ISO, it boots into the main syslinux/Anaconda menu, but as soon as I select Install Fedora, the screen goes black and nothing ever happens. Has anyone installed F20 into a VirtualBox VM? Yes albeit it was on OS X. On Fedora I use virsh / virt-manager or Gnome Boxes. Chris Murphy -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: F20 in VirtualBox VM
On 12/20/13 07:50, Greg Woods wrote: I am running VirtualBox under F19, and I wanted to try F20 in a VM, but I can't get it to install. With both the Live ISO and the full DVD iso, if I point the virtual DVD drive at the ISO, it boots into the main syslinux/Anaconda menu, but as soon as I select Install Fedora, the screen goes black and nothing ever happens. Has anyone installed F20 into a VirtualBox VM? Yes. Been installing and testing F20 on a VM for a while now. But make sure you're running VirtualBox 4.3.6 -- Getting tired of non-Fedora discussions and self-serving posts -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: f20 - gedit
On 12/19/2013 07:22 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 12/19/2013 08:35 AM, Alexander Volovics wrote: On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 08:05:49AM -0500, Robert Moskowitz wrote: Confirm used dconf-editor instead to set the overrides and now those entries appear within gedit. What did you change? I just went through all of dconf-editor listed items and did not recognize anything to change that would turn on settings/preferences in gedit let alone directly turn off word wrap. When you open gedit in Fed20 + Gnome-3.10 a gedit icon appears in the top bar. If you click on this and choose 'preferences' you will see under 'Text Wrapping' the entries: 'enable text wrapping' and 'do not split words over two lines'. Is this what you are looking for. I assume you are using standard Gnome-3.10 and not classic mode. I know nothing about classic mode (don't use it). Is this icon not visible in your install? Fresh install. Have not applied the updates yet. Please, do it right now. I see that gedit icon on the top bar once gedit is running. It has a down arrow right next to it. I assume that lets me switch between copies of gedit if more than one is open. Why don't you try instead of assume? The down arrow is not for switching between different copies of the same application, but for a drop down menu. You should click on it to see its behavior by yourself, it is cheap!! But neither left or right click on this icon produced anything. No action at all. Perhaps you enabled something else first for gnome? Left click doesn't work? Maybe your mouse is broken. -- Germán A. Racca Fedora Package Maintainer https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Skytux -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Acroread vs. ctrl/z
On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 03:07:49PM -0800, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: When Adobe acroread is run from a terminal, ctrl/z doesn't suspend it. ^Z appears on the terminal, which hangs until acroread terminates itself or ctrl/c is pressed on the terminal. However $ acroread starts acroread in the background and ctrl/z suspends all other programs, as expected. System is Fedora-19 with all updates installed. Has anyone else seen this? What's going on? Not here (same F19 updated): mihai@mtl acroread ^Z [1]+ Stopped acroread mihai@mtl I use xterm and AdobeReader_enu-9.5.5-1.i486 HTH, Mihai -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: f20 - gnome-tweak-tools?
On 12/19/2013 06:15 PM, Steven Stern wrote: On 12/19/2013 05:05 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: So I have been reading up release notes on f20 which leads me to release notes of gnome 3.10 and http://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/20/html/Release_Notes/sect-Release_Notes-Changes_for_Desktop.html 3.1.4 discusses gnome-tweak-tool No gnome-tweak-tool installed. so yum provides gnome-tweak-tool and No matches found What happened? Who stole it? ;) Yum install gnome-tweak-tool You search should have been [sdstern@sds-desk-2 ~]$ yum provides */gnome-tweak-tool 00:00 gnome-tweak-tool-3.10.1-2.fc20.noarch : A tool to customize advanced GNOME 3 : options Repo: fedora Matched from: Filename: /usr/share/doc/gnome-tweak-tool Filename: /usr/share/gnome-tweak-tool Filename: /usr/bin/gnome-tweak-tool Doesn't work for me; and I tried using the public mirrors, not my local repo. Further on: http://mirrors.kernel.org/fedora/releases/20/Fedora/i386/os/Packages/g/ and http://mirrors.kernel.org/fedora/releases/20/Fedora/x86_64/os/Packages/g/ no gnome-tweak-tools -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: f20 - gedit
On 12/19/2013 07:16 PM, Germán A. Racca wrote: On 12/19/2013 07:22 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 12/19/2013 08:35 AM, Alexander Volovics wrote: On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 08:05:49AM -0500, Robert Moskowitz wrote: Confirm used dconf-editor instead to set the overrides and now those entries appear within gedit. What did you change? I just went through all of dconf-editor listed items and did not recognize anything to change that would turn on settings/preferences in gedit let alone directly turn off word wrap. When you open gedit in Fed20 + Gnome-3.10 a gedit icon appears in the top bar. If you click on this and choose 'preferences' you will see under 'Text Wrapping' the entries: 'enable text wrapping' and 'do not split words over two lines'. Is this what you are looking for. I assume you are using standard Gnome-3.10 and not classic mode. I know nothing about classic mode (don't use it). Is this icon not visible in your install? Fresh install. Have not applied the updates yet. Please, do it right now. I see that gedit icon on the top bar once gedit is running. It has a down arrow right next to it. I assume that lets me switch between copies of gedit if more than one is open. Why don't you try instead of assume? The down arrow is not for switching between different copies of the same application, but for a drop down menu. You should click on it to see its behavior by yourself, it is cheap!! I DID try clicking on the arrow and nothing happened. Since I only had one gedit opened, I tried to figure it out. Now that you say this is what it does, I realized where I MAY be having troubles. I am in terminal, sued, and running gedit to edit the yum.conf.d files! So I opened terminal regular and ran gedit and sure enough it works and I can set preferences no problem for ME and turn off word wrap. But I cannot do it for root's use of gedit to edit config files. :( But neither left or right click on this icon produced anything. No action at all. Perhaps you enabled something else first for gnome? Left click doesn't work? Maybe your mouse is broken. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: f20 - gedit
On 12/19/2013 09:32 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 12/19/2013 07:16 PM, Germán A. Racca wrote: On 12/19/2013 07:22 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 12/19/2013 08:35 AM, Alexander Volovics wrote: On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 08:05:49AM -0500, Robert Moskowitz wrote: Confirm used dconf-editor instead to set the overrides and now those entries appear within gedit. What did you change? I just went through all of dconf-editor listed items and did not recognize anything to change that would turn on settings/preferences in gedit let alone directly turn off word wrap. When you open gedit in Fed20 + Gnome-3.10 a gedit icon appears in the top bar. If you click on this and choose 'preferences' you will see under 'Text Wrapping' the entries: 'enable text wrapping' and 'do not split words over two lines'. Is this what you are looking for. I assume you are using standard Gnome-3.10 and not classic mode. I know nothing about classic mode (don't use it). Is this icon not visible in your install? Fresh install. Have not applied the updates yet. Please, do it right now. I see that gedit icon on the top bar once gedit is running. It has a down arrow right next to it. I assume that lets me switch between copies of gedit if more than one is open. Why don't you try instead of assume? The down arrow is not for switching between different copies of the same application, but for a drop down menu. You should click on it to see its behavior by yourself, it is cheap!! I DID try clicking on the arrow and nothing happened. Since I only had one gedit opened, I tried to figure it out. Now that you say this is what it does, I realized where I MAY be having troubles. I am in terminal, sued, and running gedit to edit the yum.conf.d files! So I opened terminal regular and ran gedit and sure enough it works and I can set preferences no problem for ME and turn off word wrap. But I cannot do it for root's use of gedit to edit config files. :( You are right about this, because I opened /etc/yum.conf with gedit using sudo and I'm not able to open the drop down menu. Maybe this behavior is intentional, but I'm not sure. But neither left or right click on this icon produced anything. No action at all. Perhaps you enabled something else first for gnome? Left click doesn't work? Maybe your mouse is broken. -- Germán A. Racca Fedora Package Maintainer https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Skytux -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: hacked - looking for doc/suggestions on hardening/securing systems from the start
On Fri, 2013-12-20 at 03:46 +1030, Tim wrote: Allegedly, on or about 18 December 2013, Rick Stevens sent: 3. Make sure you enforce complex passwords and require them to be rotated at least every 90 days. I take issue with the continually changing passwords idea. I agree with you on this one. There was a white paper I read (wish I still had the link to it) where they demonstrated that some security measures are actually more expensive than dealing with a break-in. The basic theory was a small-to-medium cost, when incurred by thousands of users, is higher than the high cost of dealing with the average compromise. I think changing passwords is up there on that list. It's a huge hassle (we're required to do this at work), and several thousand users have to go through it every six months. I don't think that is a good use of security resources. But the security people will argue that bad guys can get a hold of a password and not use it for months, which increases their odds of evading detection. Or they get encrypted passwords and decrypt them offline, using computing resources they've stolen from others (PC's in botnets, etc.). So it may take a long time to guess your 15-character password this way, but they've got forever if you never change your password. So it's hard to come up with numbers to back up my belief. That said, I also think it is very risky to use the same password at multiple locations, even if it is an easy-to-remember but hard-to-guess password. The reason is that if any one of those locations is compromised, the bad guys now have access to your accounts at all these other places that have *not* been hacked. It is very important to use different passwords at every place you do business. Yes, that means you have to write them down, so you write them down in a secure way, by using a password safe (I like Keepassx on Linux, it's packaged in Fedora, and there are versions of Keepass for Windows, MacOS, Android and iOS as well). The safe is strongly encrypted, so you can store it on insecure but easy-to-access locations like Dropbox (even so, I do not keep my banking password in Keepass/Dropbox, that is one of the very few that is stored nowhere but in my head). This allows me to use a password like K8_jBh6ewq,5 (no, silly people, that is NOT any of my actual passwords :-) Then there is one critical password that you have to memorize, which is the one to open the Keepass safe. My wife and I store our Keepass passwords in each other's safe, to guard against somehow forgetting it. That password is never used except on our own personal machines (I would argue that if someone has compromised your personal machine, the game is already over; there are many ways they can use that to get access to your accounts). You really need something that detects attempt to crack passwords Very few passwords are actually cracked by brute force on your machine. They are almost always obtained by compromising a server where (hopefully encrypted) passwords are stored, and then brute force cracking them offline, where you could not detect the attempt. Or just use the access to the server to capture the passwords used on that server (also undetectable by the end user). Another common attack lately is to use stolen certs to run a man-in-the-middle against https sessions (the security of many of the certificate authorities is atrocious, there have been many well-publicized compromises). So if you're like me and access hundreds of password-protected web sites, you want to use a different password for every one of them. --Greg -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: f20 - gedit
On 12/19/2013 07:45 PM, Germán A. Racca wrote: On 12/19/2013 09:32 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 12/19/2013 07:16 PM, Germán A. Racca wrote: On 12/19/2013 07:22 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 12/19/2013 08:35 AM, Alexander Volovics wrote: On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 08:05:49AM -0500, Robert Moskowitz wrote: Confirm used dconf-editor instead to set the overrides and now those entries appear within gedit. What did you change? I just went through all of dconf-editor listed items and did not recognize anything to change that would turn on settings/preferences in gedit let alone directly turn off word wrap. When you open gedit in Fed20 + Gnome-3.10 a gedit icon appears in the top bar. If you click on this and choose 'preferences' you will see under 'Text Wrapping' the entries: 'enable text wrapping' and 'do not split words over two lines'. Is this what you are looking for. I assume you are using standard Gnome-3.10 and not classic mode. I know nothing about classic mode (don't use it). Is this icon not visible in your install? Fresh install. Have not applied the updates yet. Please, do it right now. I see that gedit icon on the top bar once gedit is running. It has a down arrow right next to it. I assume that lets me switch between copies of gedit if more than one is open. Why don't you try instead of assume? The down arrow is not for switching between different copies of the same application, but for a drop down menu. You should click on it to see its behavior by yourself, it is cheap!! I DID try clicking on the arrow and nothing happened. Since I only had one gedit opened, I tried to figure it out. Now that you say this is what it does, I realized where I MAY be having troubles. I am in terminal, sued, and running gedit to edit the yum.conf.d files! So I opened terminal regular and ran gedit and sure enough it works and I can set preferences no problem for ME and turn off word wrap. But I cannot do it for root's use of gedit to edit config files. :( You are right about this, because I opened /etc/yum.conf with gedit using sudo and I'm not able to open the drop down menu. Maybe this behavior is intentional, but I'm not sure. So, I should give it a try and just put up with the wrapping. Afterall vi wraps, but actually does it smarter. I can see why, as the top bar is running as ME and should NOT let ME set preferences for gedit as root. But that begs the question on HOW to change the preferences for root. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: f20 - gedit
On 12/19/2013 05:05 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 12/19/2013 07:45 PM, Germán A. Racca wrote: On 12/19/2013 09:32 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 12/19/2013 07:16 PM, Germán A. Racca wrote: On 12/19/2013 07:22 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 12/19/2013 08:35 AM, Alexander Volovics wrote: On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 08:05:49AM -0500, Robert Moskowitz wrote: Confirm used dconf-editor instead to set the overrides and now those entries appear within gedit. What did you change? I just went through all of dconf-editor listed items and did not recognize anything to change that would turn on settings/preferences in gedit let alone directly turn off word wrap. When you open gedit in Fed20 + Gnome-3.10 a gedit icon appears in the top bar. If you click on this and choose 'preferences' you will see under 'Text Wrapping' the entries: 'enable text wrapping' and 'do not split words over two lines'. Is this what you are looking for. I assume you are using standard Gnome-3.10 and not classic mode. I know nothing about classic mode (don't use it). Is this icon not visible in your install? Fresh install. Have not applied the updates yet. Please, do it right now. I see that gedit icon on the top bar once gedit is running. It has a down arrow right next to it. I assume that lets me switch between copies of gedit if more than one is open. Why don't you try instead of assume? The down arrow is not for switching between different copies of the same application, but for a drop down menu. You should click on it to see its behavior by yourself, it is cheap!! I DID try clicking on the arrow and nothing happened. Since I only had one gedit opened, I tried to figure it out. Now that you say this is what it does, I realized where I MAY be having troubles. I am in terminal, sued, and running gedit to edit the yum.conf.d files! So I opened terminal regular and ran gedit and sure enough it works and I can set preferences no problem for ME and turn off word wrap. But I cannot do it for root's use of gedit to edit config files. :( You are right about this, because I opened /etc/yum.conf with gedit using sudo and I'm not able to open the drop down menu. Maybe this behavior is intentional, but I'm not sure. So, I should give it a try and just put up with the wrapping. Afterall vi wraps, but actually does it smarter. I can see why, as the top bar is running as ME and should NOT let ME set preferences for gedit as root. But that begs the question on HOW to change the preferences for root. Um, I may have missed the threads, but gedit works fine on F18/MATE. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: f20 strange local repo behaviour
On 12/19/2013 03:25 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 12/19/2013 04:55 AM, Frank Murphy wrote: On Wed, 18 Dec 2013 18:24:07 -0500 Robert Moskowitz r...@htt-consult.com wrote: when I edited the yum.repos.d files to point to my local repos, I got the following error doing a yum update: Error: Package: gnutls-utils-3.1.17-3.fc20.i686 (updates) Requires: libopts.so.25 You could try using --skip-broken to work around the problem You could try running: rpm -Va --nofiles --nodigest I have the same number of files locally that I am seeing on the mirrors, so what gives? Is there perhaps a permission problem? I used rsync to build my repo: Why not use yum*local, never had a problem with it. What is yum*local? Are you talking about yum updatelocal where I have the specific rpms local? Why? I have rsynced the WHOLE fedora/20/updates repo to a local server (over night via cron job) so I can update multiple systems. and use repomanage --help (yum-utils) to keep N number of versions, in case downgrade foo needed. But I have a repo that I rsynced? Why do I need repomanage? I looked at --help and did not see what this would do. Meanwhile man yum.conf SEEMS to imply that I could: baseurl=http://myrepo mirrorlists=unchanged failovermethod priority Looks like this works. the later so it will use my provided baseurl first and only go to mirrorlists if mine is not available (I am at a conference) or a specific package is not on my repo for some reason. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: f20 - gedit
On 12/19/2013 08:13 PM, Dan Thurman wrote: On 12/19/2013 05:05 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 12/19/2013 07:45 PM, Germán A. Racca wrote: On 12/19/2013 09:32 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 12/19/2013 07:16 PM, Germán A. Racca wrote: On 12/19/2013 07:22 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 12/19/2013 08:35 AM, Alexander Volovics wrote: On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 08:05:49AM -0500, Robert Moskowitz wrote: Confirm used dconf-editor instead to set the overrides and now those entries appear within gedit. What did you change? I just went through all of dconf-editor listed items and did not recognize anything to change that would turn on settings/preferences in gedit let alone directly turn off word wrap. When you open gedit in Fed20 + Gnome-3.10 a gedit icon appears in the top bar. If you click on this and choose 'preferences' you will see under 'Text Wrapping' the entries: 'enable text wrapping' and 'do not split words over two lines'. Is this what you are looking for. I assume you are using standard Gnome-3.10 and not classic mode. I know nothing about classic mode (don't use it). Is this icon not visible in your install? Fresh install. Have not applied the updates yet. Please, do it right now. I see that gedit icon on the top bar once gedit is running. It has a down arrow right next to it. I assume that lets me switch between copies of gedit if more than one is open. Why don't you try instead of assume? The down arrow is not for switching between different copies of the same application, but for a drop down menu. You should click on it to see its behavior by yourself, it is cheap!! I DID try clicking on the arrow and nothing happened. Since I only had one gedit opened, I tried to figure it out. Now that you say this is what it does, I realized where I MAY be having troubles. I am in terminal, sued, and running gedit to edit the yum.conf.d files! So I opened terminal regular and ran gedit and sure enough it works and I can set preferences no problem for ME and turn off word wrap. But I cannot do it for root's use of gedit to edit config files. :( You are right about this, because I opened /etc/yum.conf with gedit using sudo and I'm not able to open the drop down menu. Maybe this behavior is intentional, but I'm not sure. So, I should give it a try and just put up with the wrapping. Afterall vi wraps, but actually does it smarter. I can see why, as the top bar is running as ME and should NOT let ME set preferences for gedit as root. But that begs the question on HOW to change the preferences for root. Um, I may have missed the threads, but gedit works fine on F18/MATE. This behaviour, I think, came in f19. It only impacts sudo gedit not being able to access top bar. And that is a Gnome 3 feature. Doubt if Mate has it. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: F20 in VirtualBox VM
On Fri, 2013-12-20 at 08:04 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: Yes. Been installing and testing F20 on a VM for a while now. But make sure you're running VirtualBox 4.3.6 Thanks for the tip, I was on 4.3.4 . So I upgraded to 4.3.6, installed the extension pack, and... I still get a black screen after selecting install Fedora 20 from the Anaconda/syslinux boot menu. --Greg -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: F20 in VirtualBox VM
On Thu, 2013-12-19 at 18:26 -0700, Greg Woods wrote: On Fri, 2013-12-20 at 08:04 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: Yes. Been installing and testing F20 on a VM for a while now. But make sure you're running VirtualBox 4.3.6 Thanks for the tip, I was on 4.3.4 . So I upgraded to 4.3.6, installed the extension pack, and... I still get a black screen after selecting install Fedora 20 from the Anaconda/syslinux boot menu. I wanted to use VB because I have been using it since forever and I have a couple of existing VMs that I want to keep using (as well as some management scripts I've written). For the F20 install, it's just temporary, so I decided to try just doing one in KVM, and that seems to be working so far. At some point I'd like to move away from depending on Oracle, so I may look into what it would take to convert a Windows VM under VirtualBox to running under KVM/libvirt instead. --Greg -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: F20 in VirtualBox VM
On 12/20/13 09:26, Greg Woods wrote: On Fri, 2013-12-20 at 08:04 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: Yes. Been installing and testing F20 on a VM for a while now. But make sure you're running VirtualBox 4.3.6 Thanks for the tip, I was on 4.3.4 . So I upgraded to 4.3.6, installed the extension pack, and... I still get a black screen after selecting install Fedora 20 from the Anaconda/syslinux boot menu. That is odd. FWIW, my F19 host is 64bit and I'm using the rpmfusion nVidia stuff to drive the host system video. Also, I've only installed/tested F20 in 64 bit. When I select Install the screen goes black for about 5 seconds, then goes white for about 10 seconds and then black with scrolling messages. You have verified the checksums of the downloaded ISO's? -- Getting tired of non-Fedora discussions and self-serving posts -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
f20 - Anyone else having problems installing x64
I have a Gateway NV53A laptop that has Centos 6.5 installed and performing without a problem. I tried to install the x64 f20 on this machine, but have not been able to get the discs to install. I checksumed the disc and it passed I tested the disc with the boot process, and could not figure out if it passed or not, it took a long time and then apparently tried to automatically install, and then died. I rebooted several times some of which were in 'basic mode' but there was no success. Any one else having trouble installing f20 Greg Ennis -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: f20 - gedit
Anyway, it is safer to use something like VIM to edit files as root, I only tested gedit because I saw your email, but as root I use only VIM to edit files :) Why? - Original Message - On 12/19/2013 10:05 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 12/19/2013 07:45 PM, Germán A. Racca wrote: On 12/19/2013 09:32 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 12/19/2013 07:16 PM, Germán A. Racca wrote: On 12/19/2013 07:22 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 12/19/2013 08:35 AM, Alexander Volovics wrote: On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 08:05:49AM -0500, Robert Moskowitz wrote: Confirm used dconf-editor instead to set the overrides and now those entries appear within gedit. What did you change? I just went through all of dconf-editor listed items and did not recognize anything to change that would turn on settings/preferences in gedit let alone directly turn off word wrap. When you open gedit in Fed20 + Gnome-3.10 a gedit icon appears in the top bar. If you click on this and choose 'preferences' you will see under 'Text Wrapping' the entries: 'enable text wrapping' and 'do not split words over two lines'. Is this what you are looking for. I assume you are using standard Gnome-3.10 and not classic mode. I know nothing about classic mode (don't use it). Is this icon not visible in your install? Fresh install. Have not applied the updates yet. Please, do it right now. I see that gedit icon on the top bar once gedit is running. It has a down arrow right next to it. I assume that lets me switch between copies of gedit if more than one is open. Why don't you try instead of assume? The down arrow is not for switching between different copies of the same application, but for a drop down menu. You should click on it to see its behavior by yourself, it is cheap!! I DID try clicking on the arrow and nothing happened. Since I only had one gedit opened, I tried to figure it out. Now that you say this is what it does, I realized where I MAY be having troubles. I am in terminal, sued, and running gedit to edit the yum.conf.d files! So I opened terminal regular and ran gedit and sure enough it works and I can set preferences no problem for ME and turn off word wrap. But I cannot do it for root's use of gedit to edit config files. :( You are right about this, because I opened /etc/yum.conf with gedit using sudo and I'm not able to open the drop down menu. Maybe this behavior is intentional, but I'm not sure. So, I should give it a try and just put up with the wrapping. Afterall vi wraps, but actually does it smarter. I can see why, as the top bar is running as ME and should NOT let ME set preferences for gedit as root. But that begs the question on HOW to change the preferences for root. Anyway, it is safer to use something like VIM to edit files as root, I only tested gedit because I saw your email, but as root I use only VIM to edit files :) -- Germán A. Racca Fedora Package Maintainer https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Skytux -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: f20 - gnome-tweak-tools?
On 12/19/2013 09:26 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 12/19/2013 06:15 PM, Steven Stern wrote: On 12/19/2013 05:05 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: So I have been reading up release notes on f20 which leads me to release notes of gnome 3.10 and http://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/20/html/Release_Notes/sect-Release_Notes-Changes_for_Desktop.html 3.1.4 discusses gnome-tweak-tool No gnome-tweak-tool installed. so yum provides gnome-tweak-tool and No matches found What happened? Who stole it? ;) Yum install gnome-tweak-tool You search should have been [sdstern@sds-desk-2 ~]$ yum provides */gnome-tweak-tool 00:00 gnome-tweak-tool-3.10.1-2.fc20.noarch : A tool to customize advanced GNOME 3 : options Repo: fedora Matched from: Filename: /usr/share/doc/gnome-tweak-tool Filename: /usr/share/gnome-tweak-tool Filename: /usr/bin/gnome-tweak-tool Doesn't work for me; and I tried using the public mirrors, not my local repo. Further on: http://mirrors.kernel.org/fedora/releases/20/Fedora/i386/os/Packages/g/ and http://mirrors.kernel.org/fedora/releases/20/Fedora/x86_64/os/Packages/g/ no gnome-tweak-tools Please put the full output, including the command, and don't truncate it. When you use provides option, you have to put the name of a file, and in your case it could be '/usr/bin/gnome-tweak-tool' or more specifically '*/gnome-tweak-tool'. HTH, Germán. -- Germán A. Racca Fedora Package Maintainer https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Skytux -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: f20 - yum locally rebuilding deltas is so slow
On Thu, 2013-12-19 at 16:43 -0700, Chris Murphy wrote: On Dec 19, 2013, at 4:14 PM, T.C. Hollingsworth tchollingswo...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at a4:01 PM, Chris Murphy li...@colorremedies.com wrote: Does anyone know exactly what's happening during the rebuild? I understand from light documentation how deltarpm works, what I'm not sure is if most of the time is spent reconstructing a virtual oldrpm from an installed rpm, or applying the delta, or writing out the new install? It reconstructs a real honest-to-God RPM file that must match the shasum/GPG sig of the old one exactly, lest it be thrown out. That sounds time consuming. I bet that's the big hit. It is. The worst part is that the rebuilt rpm has to also be compressed using exactly the same compression level as the original. The xz compression format (which is what Fedora's rpms use) is designed to be fast at decompression, but is pretty slow at compression, which slows down the rebuild time. To answer your original question, applydeltarpm never reconstructs a virtual oldrpm. Rather, it grabs the necessary bytes from the files on disk as it applies the delta. This process is hard on IO, but isn't very CPU-intensive. Building the new rpm, for the reasons listed earlier, is hard on the CPU. Jonathan -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: F-20: no shutdown/reboot due to unstopped jobs
antonio ha scritto / said the followingil giorno/on 18/12/2013 20:53: Chris Murphy ha scritto / said the followingil giorno/on 18/12/2013 20:48: On Dec 18, 2013, at 5:11 AM, antonio montagnani antonio.montagn...@alice.it wrote: when I want to poweroff/reboot the machine I get this message: a stop job is running for User Manager for 42 and it takes a very long time to stop Sometimes I get a similar message for CUPS printing Any idea?? Might be a variant of this bug: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1023820 What you can do as a work around is: sync reboot -f That's an abrupt forced reboot but syncs and should unmount file systems cleanly. Chris Murphy https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1044602 Please have a look: it seems different, but I am not a technician :-) Tnx anyway it is related to some problem at cups services stoppage,as if I issue a systemctl stop cups I get : systemctl stop cups Warning: Stopping cups, but it can still be activated by: cups.path cups.socket after a couple of minutes waiting -- Antonio M Skype: amontag52 Linux Fedora F20 (Heisenbug) on Acer 5720 http://lugsaronno.altervista.org http://www.campingmonterosa.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
