Re: gedit and unsaved files

[Gordon Ewasiuk]

On Sun, 4 Mar 2018, Ed Greshko wrote:


On 03/04/18 11:13, Gordon Ewasiuk wrote:



I had a text document open in gedit when a power outage hit.  This is a
file that I hadn't saved or named yet so it was still an "Untitled
Document 1" but was loaded with content.

Does gedit autosave open files anywhere?


Well, it would seem you're out of luck if this article is still valid

https://itsfoss.com/how-to-enable-auto-save-feature-in-gedit/

I don't use gnome or gedit but on a test system shows...

[egreshko@f27gq ~]$ gsettings get org.gnome.gedit.preferences.editor auto-save
false

So, that would seem to confirm that it isn't enabled by default.? It also makes 
me
wonder why one has to resort to the command line to enable features on a GUI.? 
But,
hey, that's just me.? :-) :-)


Hi Ed,

Thanks for the quick reply and for looking into the issue.  I kinda 
figured it was a lost cause but had to ask.  Oh well, lesson learned.


Regards,

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Re: gedit and unsaved files

[Ed Greshko]

On 03/04/18 11:13, Gordon Ewasiuk wrote:
> Howdy List,
>
> I had a text document open in gedit when a power outage hit.  This is a
> file that I hadn't saved or named yet so it was still an "Untitled
> Document 1" but was loaded with content.
>
> Does gedit autosave open files anywhere?  
>
> I checked /tmp and /var/tmp but came up empty.  I also grepped the
> filesystem but turned up nothing. 
>
> (This isn't a complaint.  It's my own fault for not saving the
> document.  Shame on me!)

Well, it would seem you're out of luck if this article is still valid

https://itsfoss.com/how-to-enable-auto-save-feature-in-gedit/

I don't use gnome or gedit but on a test system shows...

[egreshko@f27gq ~]$ gsettings get org.gnome.gedit.preferences.editor auto-save
false

So, that would seem to confirm that it isn't enabled by default.  It also makes 
me
wonder why one has to resort to the command line to enable features on a GUI.  
But,
hey, that's just me.  :-) :-)


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gedit and unsaved files

[Gordon Ewasiuk]

Howdy List,

I had a text document open in gedit when a power outage hit.  This is a
file that I hadn't saved or named yet so it was still an "Untitled
Document 1" but was loaded with content.

Does gedit autosave open files anywhere?  

I checked /tmp and /var/tmp but came up empty.  I also grepped the
filesystem but turned up nothing. 

(This isn't a complaint.  It's my own fault for not saving the
document.  Shame on me!)

-Gordon

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Re: Display Manager Lagging After Last Update

[Ed Greshko]

On 03/04/18 09:57, Stephen Morris wrote:
> Thanks Ed, I tried Gnome under Wayland and Xorg and as documented in the 
> problem
> description, even though gnome shell lags with gdm, when gnome under Xorg is
> started the lag disappears. The only difference in my case is that the issue 
> was
> not caused by upgrading from F26 to F27, which the problem description seems 
> to be
> indicating, it was working fine in F27, until an update I put on caused the 
> issue.
> If as indicated in the problem description the gnome-shell issue only happens 
> under
> Wayland, does that mean that gdm runs under Wayland, and if so is there any 
> way to
> change that functionality to get gdm to run under Xorg until the Wayland 
> issue is
> resolved? 


Yes, the login screen of gdm runs under wayland by default

Edit the file /etc/gdm/custom.conf accordingly

[daemon]
# Uncoment the line below to force the login screen to use Xorg
#WaylandEnable=false

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Re: Display Manager Lagging After Last Update

[Stephen Morris]

On 4/3/18 11:37 am, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 03/04/18 08:25, Stephen Morris wrote:

My issue starts with gdm, with gnome shell taking up to 800% of the cpu and
causing, ctrl+alt+F2 to switch to another login to time out, and if I launch 
gnome
from gdm the issue with gnome shell continues and causes gnome itself to lag. 
If I
log into kde from gdm instead of logging into gnome the performance issue ceases
and things go back to normal. If I use kdm as the display manager, launching kde
does not cause any performance issues, and, if I launch gnome from kdm there 
are no
performance issues either, with gnome shell running normally and not thrashing 
the
cpu, so from my perspective the issue is gdm. The next question is how do I fix 
it?


Are you running GNOME under wayland or Xorg?

Could be this.   https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1517330


Thanks Ed, I tried Gnome under Wayland and Xorg and as documented in the 
problem description, even though gnome shell lags with gdm, when gnome 
under Xorg is started the lag disappears. The only difference in my case 
is that the issue was not caused by upgrading from F26 to F27, which the 
problem description seems to be indicating, it was working fine in F27, 
until an update I put on caused the issue. If as indicated in the 
problem description the gnome-shell issue only happens under Wayland, 
does that mean that gdm runs under Wayland, and if so is there any way 
to change that functionality to get gdm to run under Xorg until the 
Wayland issue is resolved?



regards,

Steve





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Re: cups sucks!!! Epilogue

[Stephen Morris]

On 3/3/18 9:01 am, David A. De Graaf wrote:

On 02/27/18 17:04, François Patte wrote:

Le 25/02/2018 à 19:42, François Patte a écrit :

Bonjour.

I try to configure a printer on my local network but all attemps fail.

I have a printer attached to one computer on an usb port and I want to
use it with other computers on my local network.

I opened firefox on one computer and miracle: the printer attached to
the other computer is discovered and cups admin interface asks me if I
want to add this printer. Nice: the job is easy!! *But* this does not
work at all!!

Sending a test page returns that the printer is not responding.

I tried to cofigure the printer using the "Add printer" way and chose
ipp. According to the given syntax, I wrote: ipp://name-of-server/ipp
but this does not work: sending a test page returns that the printer is
misconfigured or no longer exists...

I replaced the name of the server by its IP address... same result.

I tried: ipp://name-of-server:631/printers/name-of-printer-on-server. It
does not work, the message is now: Filter failed.

What fiter? I don't know as cups logs no longer exist since systemd...

Does somebody know a solution?

After googleling a lot I could solve my problem but in a very strange way!

First I found some people talking about the impossibility to use the
same driver on the server (the computer to which the printer is plugged)
and the other computers on the LAN, them claimed that the driver to use
on the clients must be the "raw" driver. So I tried to modify the
configuration on a client, changing the driver to raw, but cups refuses
at the end to modify the config and I had to delete the printer on the
client and to re-add the printer from scratch using the raw driver and
cups accepted this way of doing.

But printing a test page failed. "Filter failed" was the error!
journalctl gives useless information, just a joke (maybe): " Job stopped
due to filter errors; please consult the error_log file for details."
There is no more error_log file

At last I tried to use the "automatic way": ask cups to find the
printers on the LAN and add the computer. Using this way, I chose the
raw driver (cups accepted this) but the configuration failed one more
time: "the printer is misconfigured or no longer exists".

So, I asked to modify this configuration, replacing the dnssd address by
an ipp one and I did not change the driver in this modification and,
this time, cups accepted the modification and at last the printer worked!

cups really sucks!

The cups system in Fedora 27 has taken a giant step backward from 
prior versions in that browsing no longer works automatically.  In 
F26, if the cups-browsed service was enabled and started, all the 
printers on the LAN would be discovered and be available for use - 
automatically.


Hi David,

    I'm a little confused by what you mean here. In all versions of 
cups, including F27, when you add a printer to cups, if the network 
printer is turned on cups can automatically find it if it has support 
for the printer, then when that printer is selected and the driver 
selected, the printer is added to the printer list. If cups-browsed is 
active then another entry is automatically added. In my case, with the 
Epson printer (Expression ET 3700) I have cups finds two entries 
provided from having installed the Epson supplied driver (cups doesn't 
have native support), one using lpd and the other using dnssd. The entry 
that gets auto added if cups-browsed is active uses ipps and is 
specified as driverless, hence when selecting paper types it doesn't 
know anything about Epson specific paper.



regards,

Steve



In F27 this no longer works.  But there is a workaround.

I must now edit /etc/cups/cups-browsed.conf on each and every client 
machine to add these lines:

 BrowsePoll datium
 BrowsePoll datair
 LocalQueueNamingRemoteCUPS RemoteName

where datium and datair are _my_ servers with connected printers. Note 
that Fully Qualified Names, such as datium.datix.lan, are NOT 
acceptable.  With only two physical printers and a handful of client 
machines on my LAN, this is marginally tolerable;  with a much larger 
LAN, it isn't.


I've complained in https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1518415 
and in https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1525937.
Apparently the "upstream" developers have a much different view than 
me of why Linux printing has traditionally been so successful and 
reliable and are hell-bent on "fixing" it.

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Re: Display Manager Lagging After Last Update

[Ed Greshko]

On 03/04/18 08:25, Stephen Morris wrote:
> My issue starts with gdm, with gnome shell taking up to 800% of the cpu and
> causing, ctrl+alt+F2 to switch to another login to time out, and if I launch 
> gnome
> from gdm the issue with gnome shell continues and causes gnome itself to lag. 
> If I
> log into kde from gdm instead of logging into gnome the performance issue 
> ceases
> and things go back to normal. If I use kdm as the display manager, launching 
> kde
> does not cause any performance issues, and, if I launch gnome from kdm there 
> are no
> performance issues either, with gnome shell running normally and not 
> thrashing the
> cpu, so from my perspective the issue is gdm. The next question is how do I 
> fix it?


Are you running GNOME under wayland or Xorg?

Could be this.   https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1517330

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Re: Display Manager Lagging After Last Update

[Stephen Morris]

On 2/3/18 4:45 am, Jon LaBadie wrote:

I had very slow logins from sddm and lightdm.
Not as bad from gdm, but still not good.

My culprit was staring an Xvnc server gnome
session from my Mate autostart.  Clue was
50 gnome processes I owned after logging
into a Mate session.

jl


My issue starts with gdm, with gnome shell taking up to 800% of the cpu 
and causing, ctrl+alt+F2 to switch to another login to time out, and if 
I launch gnome from gdm the issue with gnome shell continues and causes 
gnome itself to lag. If I log into kde from gdm instead of logging into 
gnome the performance issue ceases and things go back to normal. If I 
use kdm as the display manager, launching kde does not cause any 
performance issues, and, if I launch gnome from kdm there are no 
performance issues either, with gnome shell running normally and not 
thrashing the cpu, so from my perspective the issue is gdm. The next 
question is how do I fix it?



regards,

Steve

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Re: tail for a list of files

[Clifford Snow]

Correction - I shouldn't have copy and pasted. drop the {} \; from the
script

find /foo -name "*dog.dat" -print0 | xargs -0  tail -n5

On Sat, Mar 3, 2018 at 10:44 AM, Clifford Snow 
wrote:

>
>
> On Sat, Mar 3, 2018 at 8:40 AM, bruce  wrote:
>
>>
>> Thanks.. works .. but I forgot one thing...
>>
>> Is there a way to list the "file" prior to the tail or would that
>> require a bash/shell script.. I could have sworn that I've seen how to
>> accomplish this a while ago...  arggh!
>>
>> For that I think you need to use xarg as:
>
> find /foo -name "*dog.dat" -print0 | xargs -0  tail -n5 {} \;
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Re: tail for a list of files

[Clifford Snow]

On Sat, Mar 3, 2018 at 8:40 AM, bruce  wrote:

>
> Thanks.. works .. but I forgot one thing...
>
> Is there a way to list the "file" prior to the tail or would that
> require a bash/shell script.. I could have sworn that I've seen how to
> accomplish this a while ago...  arggh!
>
> For that I think you need to use xarg as:

find /foo -name "*dog.dat" -print0 | xargs -0  tail -n5 {} \;


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Re: tail for a list of files

[Samuel Sieb]

On 03/03/2018 08:15 AM, bruce wrote:

Trying to figure out how to do a single line cmd (it should be
possible right??) to do a tail -5 for a list of files???

I thought I could combine find with exec/xargs and tail to generate
the list of files/tail data.. But couldn't figure out the syntax..

thoughts??

find /foo -name "*dog.dat ... tail -5<< obviously not correct. but
what would work?


When you have more than one file you can't use "-5", you have to use the 
full option which is "-n 5".  So this should work:


tail -n 5 $(find /foo -name "*dog.dat")
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Re: my problem with brasero: brasero-3.12.2-2.fc27

[Joerg Lechner]

Used new USB flash medium for F27, now it's ok - Hardware, You are right. The 
old stick became  too slow by the time, by using it for operating systems, 
which is not recommended by Sandisk.
Thank You very much.
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I was able to burn a 1.3GB mp4 file without issue including checksum at the 
end. Could be a hardware specific issue.


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Re: tail for a list of files

[bruce]

On Sat, Mar 3, 2018 at 11:25 AM, Clifford Snow  wrote:
> find /foo -name "*dog.dat" -exec tail -5 {} \;
>
> should work. You could also add various find options like -type f to make
> sure its a regular file and -mtime n to get recently modified files.
>
> On Sat, Mar 3, 2018 at 8:15 AM, bruce  wrote:
>>
>> Hey..
>>
>> Trying to figure out how to do a single line cmd (it should be
>> possible right??) to do a tail -5 for a list of files???
>>
>> I thought I could combine find with exec/xargs and tail to generate
>> the list of files/tail data.. But couldn't figure out the syntax..
>>
>> thoughts??
>>
>> find /foo -name "*dog.dat ... tail -5<< obviously not correct. but
>> what would work?
>>
>> thanks..
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Hey Cliff!!

Thanks.. works .. but I forgot one thing...

Is there a way to list the "file" prior to the tail or would that
require a bash/shell script.. I could have sworn that I've seen how to
accomplish this a while ago...  arggh!

thanks..
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Re: my problem with brasero: brasero-3.12.2-2.fc27

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I tried again writing with Brasero a 2.1GB mp4 as an iso to a file. Result 
erroneous, the original is cut to 2.0GB, as is the resulting iso. You can be 
right with hardware problems. I have F27 on an 32GB usb flash medium, possibly 
the stick is dying. I have to test the usb stick.
Thank You
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I was able to burn a 1.3GB mp4 file without issue including checksum at the 
end. Could be a hardware specific issue.


Thanks,
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Re: tail for a list of files

[bruce]

On Sat, Mar 3, 2018 at 11:31 AM, Joachim Backes
 wrote:
> On 03/03/18 17:15, bruce wrote:
> Hi Bruce,
>>
>> Hey..
>>
>> Trying to figure out how to do a single line cmd (it should be
>> possible right??) to do a tail -5 for a list of files???
>>
>> I thought I could combine find with exec/xargs and tail to generate
>> the list of files/tail data.. But couldn't figure out the syntax..
>>
>> thoughts??
>>
>> find /foo -name "*dog.dat ... tail -5<< obviously not correct!
>
> Indee
>
>> what would work?
>
>
> If I understood you correctly, then
>
> find /foo -name "*dog.dat"|tail -5
>
> should do the job. You forgot the pipe sign :-)
>
>
> Kind regards
>
> Joachim Backes
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Hi Joachim...

For a single file that works however if I want to generate the "tail"
of each file in a list of files

find /foo -name "*dog.dat" | tail -5 doesn't get the individual
files.. it gets the "tail " of the filelist.

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Re: tail for a list of files

[Joachim Backes]

On 03/03/18 17:15, bruce wrote:
Hi Bruce,

Hey..

Trying to figure out how to do a single line cmd (it should be
possible right??) to do a tail -5 for a list of files???

I thought I could combine find with exec/xargs and tail to generate
the list of files/tail data.. But couldn't figure out the syntax..

thoughts??

find /foo -name "*dog.dat ... tail -5<< obviously not correct!

Indee


what would work?


If I understood you correctly, then

find /foo -name "*dog.dat"|tail -5

should do the job. You forgot the pipe sign :-)


Kind regards

Joachim Backes



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Re: tail for a list of files

[bruce]

ah...

exec instead of xargs... ok...

is there a way with exec ???

thanks


On Sat, Mar 3, 2018 at 11:25 AM, Clifford Snow  wrote:
> find /foo -name "*dog.dat" -exec tail -5 {} \;
>
> should work. You could also add various find options like -type f to make
> sure its a regular file and -mtime n to get recently modified files.
>
> On Sat, Mar 3, 2018 at 8:15 AM, bruce  wrote:
>>
>> Hey..
>>
>> Trying to figure out how to do a single line cmd (it should be
>> possible right??) to do a tail -5 for a list of files???
>>
>> I thought I could combine find with exec/xargs and tail to generate
>> the list of files/tail data.. But couldn't figure out the syntax..
>>
>> thoughts??
>>
>> find /foo -name "*dog.dat ... tail -5<< obviously not correct. but
>> what would work?
>>
>> thanks..
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Re: tail for a list of files

[Clifford Snow]

find /foo -name "*dog.dat" -exec tail -5 {} \;

should work. You could also add various find options like -type f to make
sure its a regular file and -mtime n to get recently modified files.

On Sat, Mar 3, 2018 at 8:15 AM, bruce  wrote:

> Hey..
>
> Trying to figure out how to do a single line cmd (it should be
> possible right??) to do a tail -5 for a list of files???
>
> I thought I could combine find with exec/xargs and tail to generate
> the list of files/tail data.. But couldn't figure out the syntax..
>
> thoughts??
>
> find /foo -name "*dog.dat ... tail -5<< obviously not correct. but
> what would work?
>
> thanks..
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tail for a list of files

[bruce]

Hey..

Trying to figure out how to do a single line cmd (it should be
possible right??) to do a tail -5 for a list of files???

I thought I could combine find with exec/xargs and tail to generate
the list of files/tail data.. But couldn't figure out the syntax..

thoughts??

find /foo -name "*dog.dat ... tail -5<< obviously not correct. but
what would work?

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Re: Alternative of Workrave

[Robbi Nespu]

Tried with breakRSI (It importing lot of KDE library to my gnome
machine) but auto start failed. Also tried Stretchly, it more modern
but I don't know to to set the time fro micro break. I ended using the
workrave again.


On Sat, Mar 3, 2018 at 7:09 PM, Basix  wrote:
> On 토, 03 3월 2018 11:54 +0800, Robbi Nespu  
> wrote:
>> Do anyone can suggest me alternative of Workrave that work with Fedora 27 
>> Gnome?
>
> There is a website called AlternativeTo, that suggest some alternative you 
> can choose.
>
> https://alternativeto.net/software/workrave/?platform=linux
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Re: my problem with brasero: brasero-3.12.2-2.fc27

[Richard Shaw]

I was able to burn a 1.3GB mp4 file without issue including checksum at the
end. Could be a hardware specific issue.

Thanks,
Richard
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Re: Alternative of Workrave

[Basix]

On 토, 03 3월 2018 11:54 +0800, Robbi Nespu  wrote:
> Do anyone can suggest me alternative of Workrave that work with Fedora 27 
> Gnome?

There is a website called AlternativeTo, that suggest some alternative you can 
choose. 

https://alternativeto.net/software/workrave/?platform=linux

And please use plaintext mail instead of HTML mail.

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Re: Firefox and Privacy Notice

[Alessio Ciregia]

On Mar 3, 2018 10:34 AM, "Ed Greshko"  wrote:

I have a fresh install of F27.   All of the


Yes, sorry, I'm talking about a fresh install of F27, fully updated just
after the first login.

A.
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Re: Firefox and Privacy Notice

[Ed Greshko]

On 03/03/18 17:33, Ed Greshko wrote:
> I have a fresh install of F27.   All of the boxes you mention are un-checked. 
>  I
> didn't touch FF much since I mainly use Chrome.  So, I think they must have 
> been
> unchecked by default.  I don't recall if I was asked my preference. 


Oh, scratch that.   The system I was checking on was a fresh install.  But, the 
home
directory had been restored from a backup that already had a .mozilla directory 
from
previous versions of Fedora.

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Re: Firefox and Privacy Notice

[Branko Grubic]

On Sat, 3 Mar 2018 17:33:40 +0800
Ed Greshko  wrote:

> On 03/03/18 16:00, Alessio Ciregia wrote:
> > I don't know if it has already been discussed, but in Firefox, in
> > about:preferences#privacy, "Allow Firefox to send technical and
> > interaction data to Mozilla" and "Allow Firefox to install and run
> > studies" are enabled by default.
> > Ok, I trust Mozilla, but these should be opt-in features, IMO.
> > I don't want to start a flame, but I ask if someone could kindly
> > point me where, in Fedora, this question has already been
> > discussed.  
> 
> I have a fresh install of F27.   All of the boxes you mention are
> un-checked.  I didn't touch FF much since I mainly use Chrome.  So, I
> think they must have been unchecked by default.  I don't recall if I
> was asked my preference. 
> 
> 

When new/fresh profile is created I always saw a small "status line" in
the bottom with a button (I think it doesn't pop-up immediately, but
after some short period of time (~10 seconds maybe), asking about data
collection, which when clicked opens the preferences where you can
switch those off. That is what I remember from last time.

Regards,
Branko
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Re: Firefox and Privacy Notice

[Ed Greshko]

On 03/03/18 16:00, Alessio Ciregia wrote:
> I don't know if it has already been discussed, but in Firefox, in
> about:preferences#privacy, "Allow Firefox to send technical and
> interaction data to Mozilla" and "Allow Firefox to install and run
> studies" are enabled by default.
> Ok, I trust Mozilla, but these should be opt-in features, IMO.
> I don't want to start a flame, but I ask if someone could kindly point
> me where, in Fedora, this question has already been discussed.

I have a fresh install of F27.   All of the boxes you mention are un-checked.  I
didn't touch FF much since I mainly use Chrome.  So, I think they must have been
unchecked by default.  I don't recall if I was asked my preference. 


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Firefox and Privacy Notice

[Alessio Ciregia]

Hello.
I don't know if it has already been discussed, but in Firefox, in
about:preferences#privacy, "Allow Firefox to send technical and
interaction data to Mozilla" and "Allow Firefox to install and run
studies" are enabled by default.
Ok, I trust Mozilla, but these should be opt-in features, IMO.
I don't want to start a flame, but I ask if someone could kindly point
me where, in Fedora, this question has already been discussed.

Thanks,
A.
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