Re: Replacing email list for users with a web forum software called Discourse, what's your opinion?

2018-10-22 Thread Federico Bruni
> I'm wondering how the people who regularly use fedora-users mailing > list feel about that. Which would you prefer? Unfortunately, it's an > either / or proposal, because there is no interface in Discourse for > emails from an email list to be put in their forums, though they do > have email

Re: Replacing email list for users with a web forum software called Discourse, what's your opinion?

2018-10-22 Thread Gerald B. Cox
There appear to be a few misconceptions here on how Discourse works or I'm misunderstanding the replies. 1. There are notifications - which mean a thread you are subscribed to or new topics are either sent to your email or an RSS feed or both. 2. There is mailing-list mode, which allows you

Re: Install / as RAID 0

2018-10-22 Thread Richard Shaw
On Sun, Oct 21, 2018 at 9:36 PM Samuel Sieb wrote: > On 10/21/18 5:03 PM, Richard Shaw wrote: > > Got Fedora 28 LXDE installed and setting up the RAID 0 with bivlet was > > pretty easy. Since it's more or less a throw away system I went ahead > > I just want to point out that the actual name is

Re: Replacing email list for users with a web forum software called Discourse, what's your opinion?

2018-10-22 Thread SternData
On 10/20/18 4:42 PM, stan wrote: > Hi, > There's a big mail thread on fedora-devel about using a web forum > software called Discourse instead of mailing lists. The idea is that > it would invigorate the Fedora community by encouraging younger people > raised on social media and mobile platforms

Re: Replacing email list for users with a web forum software called Discourse, what's your opinion?

2018-10-22 Thread Matthew Miller
On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 06:56:09PM -0700, stan wrote: > Silverblue is the new name, only recently changed, for atomic host, > Fedora's containerized OS. My understanding is that this is mostly for > cloud usage. It sounds neat, but is still in early days, though there Silverblue is the name for

Re: kernel: Failed to load gpu_info firmware

2018-10-22 Thread Suvayu Ali
Hello Stan, On Sun, Oct 21, 2018 at 09:37:19AM -0700, stan wrote: > > You could compare the journal messages from the older firmware when > it succeeded with those from the failing firmware to see if there is any > difference. For that matter, compare the successful old load with the > failing

Re: Replacing email list for users with a web forum software called Discourse, what's your opinion?

2018-10-22 Thread stan
On Mon, 22 Oct 2018 14:30:33 -0700 "Doug H." wrote: > I have been doing some reading at https://discussion.fedoraproject.org > > It is as if it is a totally different list compared to this list. I > had not even heard of Silverblue until reading there. Seems like a > good percentage of the

Re: kernel: Failed to load gpu_info firmware

2018-10-22 Thread Suvayu Ali
Hello Allan, On Sun, Oct 21, 2018 at 10:40:32PM -, Allan wrote: > >amdgpu :06:00.0: Direct firmware load for amdgpu/raven_gpu_info.bin > > failed with error -2 > > > > I have had the same fight with

Re: Replacing email list for users with a web forum software called Discourse, what's your opinion?

2018-10-22 Thread stan
On Mon, 22 Oct 2018 22:04:28 -0400 Matthew Miller wrote: > Silverblue is the name for using some of our designed-for-cloud-usage > technologies for a desktop operating system. You can read more about > it here: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fedora-silverblue/ I want to compliment you on

Re: Replacing email list for users with a web forum software called Discourse, what's your opinion?

2018-10-22 Thread Tim via users
On Mon, 2018-10-22 at 18:56 -0700, stan wrote: > I wasn't clear.  The link isn't to any potential replacement for the > users list. Oh really? What's the subject line for this thread say? And the content of the first message. This thread that you started... Who are you, the Iraqi minister for

user pictures on logon screen

2018-10-22 Thread Tim via users
Currently I have GDM providing the logon screen, for when I use the MATE desktop. Is it possible to get it to show the user face pictures, without having to make user directories world executable? Surely there's some way for user profile pictures to be put in some outside directory (not

Re: user pictures on logon screen

2018-10-22 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 10/22/18 10:29 PM, Tim via users wrote: Currently I have GDM providing the logon screen, for when I use the MATE desktop. Is it possible to get it to show the user face pictures, without having to make user directories world executable? Surely there's some way for user profile pictures to

Re: Replacing email list for users with a web forum software called Discourse, what's your opinion?

2018-10-22 Thread Tim via users
Allegedly, on or about 22 October 2018, Federico Bruni sent: > Given the replies so far, my opinion is that this list should not > switch to Discourse. Likewise. I imagine some confusion with *some* people not understanding why we would want to keep a mailing list is probably with those people

Re: Replacing email list for users with a web forum software called Discourse, what's your opinion?

2018-10-22 Thread Matthew Miller
On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 12:46:20PM -0600, Joe Zeff wrote: > >Note that while there is no active proposal to switch this mailing list to > >Discourse, there*is* exactly that for Ask Fedora. The AskBot software is > >not really actively developed (and has no community around development). > I use

Re: Replacing email list for users with a web forum software called Discourse, what's your opinion?

2018-10-22 Thread Joe Zeff
On 10/22/2018 01:53 PM, Dave Stevens wrote: On Mon, 22 Oct 2018 11:17:24 -0600 Joe Zeff wrote: If you want a web forum so badly, start one and see if anybody joins, but continuing to try to persuade everybody here to change over is a waste of time. Just give it a rest and get on with your

Re: Replacing email list for users with a web forum software called Discourse, what's your opinion?

2018-10-22 Thread Matthew Miller
On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 09:20:59AM -, Federico Bruni wrote: > As pointed out by others, another active and modern forum exists already: > https://ask.fedoraproject.org/en/questions/ Note that while there is no active proposal to switch this mailing list to Discourse, there *is* exactly that

Re: Replacing email list for users with a web forum software called Discourse, what's your opinion?

2018-10-22 Thread Gerald B. Cox
On Mon, Oct 22, 2018, 14:18 Joe Zeff wrote: > On 10/22/2018 10:45 AM, Gerald B. Cox wrote: > > There is already a Fedora instance running, although topics are limited: > https://discussion.fedoraproject.org > > Here is the Discourse support forum:https://meta.discourse.org/ > > Here is

Re: Replacing email list for users with a web forum software called Discourse, what's your opinion?

2018-10-22 Thread Dave Stevens
On Mon, 22 Oct 2018 11:17:24 -0600 Joe Zeff wrote: > If you want a web forum so badly, start one and see if anybody > joins, but continuing to try to persuade everybody here to change > over is a waste of time. Just give it a rest and get on with your > life. I dunno Joe, the OP asked about

Re: Replacing email list for users with a web forum software called Discourse, what's your opinion?

2018-10-22 Thread Bob Marcan
On Sat, 20 Oct 2018 18:17:08 -0400 Tom Horsley wrote: > On Sat, 20 Oct 2018 14:42:20 -0700 > stan wrote: > > > I'm wondering how the people who regularly use fedora-users mailing > > list feel about that. > > There is already a fedoraforum which I don't use at all because > I despise forums

Re: Replacing email list for users with a web forum software called Discourse, what's your opinion?

2018-10-22 Thread Gerald B. Cox
On Mon, Oct 22, 2018, 17:08 Joe Zeff wrote: > On 10/22/2018 01:53 PM, Dave Stevens wrote: > > On Mon, 22 Oct 2018 11:17:24 -0600 > > Joe Zeff wrote: > > > >> If you want a web forum so badly, start one and see if anybody > >> joins, but continuing to try to persuade everybody here to change >

Re: Networkmanager Wait Online Failing at Boot Time

2018-10-22 Thread Tom Horsley
On Tue, 23 Oct 2018 08:06:28 +1100 Stephen Morris wrote: > My Nas Devices are failing to mount at boot time I've never see any indication that the wait online service works to achieve anything remotely useful. There have been threads in this list with huge long analysis of exactly what isn't

Re: Networkmanager Wait Online Failing at Boot Time

2018-10-22 Thread Stephen Morris
On 23/10/18 8:06 am, Stephen Morris wrote: Hi,     My Nas Devices are failing to mount at boot time because the Networkmanager Wait Online Service is failing at boot time. The following is the output from systemctl that the boot process recommends being run. Is there anything in that output

Re: Wifi Connection in F28 KDE Timing out Waiting for Kwallet Password?

2018-10-22 Thread Stephen Morris
On 22/10/18 9:35 am, Ed Greshko wrote: On 10/22/18 5:57 AM, Stephen Morris wrote: It might be worth noting that I am not using pam_kwallet or possibly kwallet either (as neither of those are installed), I am using kwalletmanager5. There is no connection between pam-kwallet (note you wrote

Re: Replacing email list for users with a web forum software called Discourse, what's your opinion?

2018-10-22 Thread Joe Zeff
On 10/22/2018 02:18 PM, Gerald B. Cox wrote: This was my first and only post on this list.  I was providing information to correct some fallacies previously mentioned.  I have never attempted to silence someone who had a different opinion.  Again you should read the code of conduct and stop

Re: Networkmanager Wait Online Failing at Boot Time

2018-10-22 Thread Ed Greshko
On 10/23/18 5:57 AM, Stephen Morris wrote: > > On 23/10/18 8:06 am, Stephen Morris wrote: >> Hi, >> >>     My Nas Devices are failing to mount at boot time because the >> Networkmanager Wait >> Online Service is failing at boot time. The following is the output from >> systemctl that >> the boot

Networkmanager Wait Online Failing at Boot Time

2018-10-22 Thread Stephen Morris
Hi,     My Nas Devices are failing to mount at boot time because the Networkmanager Wait Online Service is failing at boot time. The following is the output from systemctl that the boot process recommends being run. Is there anything in that output that would indicate why the service is

Re: Replacing email list for users with a web forum software called Discourse, what's your opinion?

2018-10-22 Thread Doug H.
On Sat, 2018-10-20 at 14:42 -0700, stan wrote: > Hi, > There's a big mail thread on fedora-devel about using a web forum > software called Discourse instead of mailing lists. The idea is that > it would invigorate the Fedora community by encouraging younger > people > raised on social media and

Re: Replacing email list for users with a web forum software called Discourse, what's your opinion?

2018-10-22 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 10/22/18 5:27 PM, SternData wrote: I'm OK with a web forum as long as it has an RSS feed. You might not be aware about it, but RSS is effectivly dead, IIRC, because major browsers soon will drop supporting RSS or already dropped it. Ralf ___

Re: Replacing email list for users with a web forum software called Discourse, what's your opinion?

2018-10-22 Thread Joe Zeff
On 10/22/2018 10:45 AM, Gerald B. Cox wrote: There is already a Fedora instance running, although topics are limited:https://discussion.fedoraproject.org Here is the Discourse support forum:https://meta.discourse.org/ Here is Mozilla's:https://discourse.mozilla.org/ If you prefer using an

Re: Replacing email list for users with a web forum software called Discourse, what's your opinion?

2018-10-22 Thread SternData
On 10/22/18 1:14 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > On 10/22/18 5:27 PM, SternData wrote: > >> I'm OK with a web forum as long as it has an RSS feed. > > You might not be aware about it, but RSS is effectivly dead, IIRC, > because major browsers soon will drop supporting RSS or already dropped it. >

Re: Replacing email list for users with a web forum software called Discourse, what's your opinion?

2018-10-22 Thread Joe Zeff
On 10/22/2018 12:15 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: Note that while there is no active proposal to switch this mailing list to Discourse, there*is* exactly that for Ask Fedora. The AskBot software is not really actively developed (and has no community around development). I use that forum daily,

Re: Replacing email list for users with a web forum software called Discourse, what's your opinion?

2018-10-22 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 10/22/18 11:14 AM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: You might not be aware about it, but RSS is effectivly dead, IIRC, because major browsers soon will drop supporting RSS or already dropped it. There are extensions for the browsers to add RSS support. The browser developers just don't want to have

Re: Replacing email list for users with a web forum software called Discourse, what's your opinion?

2018-10-22 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 10/22/18 2:30 PM, Doug H. wrote: I have been doing some reading at https://discussion.fedoraproject.org It is as if it is a totally different list compared to this list. I had not even heard of Silverblue until reading there. Seems like a good percentage of the contributors are using it.