Re: [mosty OT] trollfilter software

2012-01-01 Thread Heinz Diehl
On 01.01.2012, Craig White wrote: POP3 for a typical mail client is for people who are mired in the 1990's and thus slavishly move mail from computer to computer, program to program, either out of ignorance for a better way or just lack imagination. So far, I can't see that you provide any

Re: [mosty OT] trollfilter software

2012-01-01 Thread Frank Murphy
On 31/12/11 21:44, Craig White wrote: POP3 for a typical mail client is for people who are mired in the 1990's and thus slavishly move mail from computer to computer, program to program, either out of ignorance for a better way or just lack imagination. But if you never change computers, never

Re: It's time for you to leave.

2012-01-01 Thread Joe Zeff
On 12/31/2011 05:30 PM, g wrote: do consider this,*never* say you are sorry. people may agree with you. Thank you, Special Agent Gibbs. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users

Re: [mosty OT] trollfilter software

2012-01-01 Thread Ed Greshko
On 01/01/2012 05:54 PM, Frank Murphy wrote: On 31/12/11 21:44, Craig White wrote: POP3 for a typical mail client is for people who are mired in the 1990's and thus slavishly move mail from computer to computer, program to program, either out of ignorance for a better way or just lack

Re: [mosty OT] trollfilter software

2012-01-01 Thread Frank Murphy
On 01/01/12 10:26, Ed Greshko wrote: You know, I don't think anybody should feel the need to justify what type of email system they use or what tools they use to manage their email traffic. I do agree with you. But, I felt an explanation was warranted here. In case someone new to mail comes

Re: [mosty OT] trollfilter software

2012-01-01 Thread Ed Greshko
On 01/01/2012 06:39 PM, Frank Murphy wrote: In case someone new to mail comes along, and believes he is primitive for using this method over that. Wellmy memory may be clouded a bit due to over celebration But I think the latest RFC for POP3 was published in May of 1996 (RFC 1939)

Re: [mosty OT] trollfilter software

2012-01-01 Thread Jake Shipton
On 01/01/12 10:39, Frank Murphy wrote: On 01/01/12 10:26, Ed Greshko wrote: You know, I don't think anybody should feel the need to justify what type of email system they use or what tools they use to manage their email traffic. I do agree with you. But, I felt an explanation was warranted

Re: [mosty OT] trollfilter software

2012-01-01 Thread Ed Greshko
On 01/01/2012 07:18 PM, Jake Shipton wrote: PS: Sorry for any grammar issues etc.. I'm still recovering from last night... I'll drink to that! -- A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof was to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools. --

using rm *.rpm but keep some files?

2012-01-01 Thread Frank Murphy
I'm trying to remove rpms from my local repo. But keep some named files. Would this work: find /path/to/repo/*.rpm | grep -v foo* bar* | rm *.rpm -- Regards, Frank Murphy--exclude UTF_8 Encoded Friend of fedoraproject.org -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or

Re: Frequent D-Bus service launched with name: net.reactivated.Fprint

2012-01-01 Thread Claude Jones
On 12/31/2011 10:15 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: With the resent talk about dbus problems, I did a grep of messages for dbus and found FREQUENT: Dec 31 21:59:50 lx120e dbus-daemon[981]: dbus[981]: [system] Activating service name='net.reactivated.Fprint' (using servicehelper) Dec 31 21:59:50

Re: using rm *.rpm but keep some files?

2012-01-01 Thread Theodore Papadopoulo
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/01/2012 01:56 PM, Frank Murphy wrote: I'm trying to remove rpms from my local repo. But keep some named files. Would this work: find /path/to/repo/*.rpm | grep -v foo* bar* | rm *.rpm Make it find /path/to/repo/*.rpm -print | grep -v

Re: using rm *.rpm but keep some files?

2012-01-01 Thread Andras Simon
2012/1/1, Frank Murphy frankl...@gmail.com: I'm trying to remove rpms from my local repo. But keep some named files. Would this work: find /path/to/repo/*.rpm | grep -v foo* bar* | rm *.rpm I don't think so. But you can always try in a sandbox. And while there are probably a thousand clever

SOLVED Re: using rm *.rpm but keep some files?

2012-01-01 Thread Frank Murphy
On 01/01/12 13:10, Theodore Papadopoulo wrote: Would this work: find /path/to/repo/*.rpm | grep -v foo* bar* | rm *.rpm Make it find /path/to/repo/*.rpm -print | grep -v foo* bar* | xargs rm and that should work (not tested). Gave it a test, it works. Thanks. -- Regards, Frank Murphy

Re: [mosty OT] trollfilter software

2012-01-01 Thread Craig White
On Sun, 2012-01-01 at 19:11 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: On 01/01/2012 06:39 PM, Frank Murphy wrote: In case someone new to mail comes along, and believes he is primitive for using this method over that. Wellmy memory may be clouded a bit due to over celebration But I think the

Re: using rm *.rpm but keep some files?

2012-01-01 Thread Jussi Lehtola
On Sun, 01 Jan 2012 12:56:20 + Frank Murphy frankl...@gmail.com wrote: I'm trying to remove rpms from my local repo. But keep some named files. Would this work: find /path/to/repo/*.rpm | grep -v foo* bar* | rm *.rpm Simple solution: mkdir tmp mv /path/to/repo/foo* /path/to/repo/bar*

Re: [mosty OT] trollfilter software

2012-01-01 Thread Mike Chambers
On Sun, 2012-01-01 at 19:22 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: On 01/01/2012 07:18 PM, Jake Shipton wrote: PS: Sorry for any grammar issues etc.. I'm still recovering from last night... I'll drink to that! Cup of coffee maybe haha -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY Best little town on Earth! --

Re: [mosty OT] trollfilter software

2012-01-01 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Sunday 01 January 2012 06:15:34 Craig White wrote: [snip] POP3 is what it is - a retrieval of e-mail from a server where it becomes the end client/user responsibility to store, manage, migrate etc. Anyone who has more than 1 computer or more than 1 device accessing e-mail from that account

nfs mounts in fstab

2012-01-01 Thread Frank Murphy
(I have line wraps here) my.server.here://nfs/store01 /home/myuser/Net01 nfs user,rw,noauto,hard,intr0 0 The problem I'm having is myuser on the client is uid:1000 (my son set up his own PC with Fedora16) on the server myuser uid:500 I was thinking:

Re: [mosty OT] trollfilter software

2012-01-01 Thread Craig White
On Sun, 2012-01-01 at 07:54 -0800, Marko Vojinovic wrote: On Sunday 01 January 2012 06:15:34 Craig White wrote: [snip] POP3 is what it is - a retrieval of e-mail from a server where it becomes the end client/user responsibility to store, manage, migrate etc. Anyone who has more than 1

How can I put a daemon writing to SDHC memory cards.Permissions Problem.

2012-01-01 Thread luis redondo
I'm not able to put the tcpdump program to write to SDHC memory cards using default configuration.I use : sudo tcpdump -s 96 -i eth0 -w /media/card ID and receive this warning:tcpdump: /mnt/DSLcapture/dslcapture: Permission denied.My account has administration rights so I do not know what is

Re: Desktop stickiness under Fedora-16/KDE

2012-01-01 Thread Genes MailLists
On 01/01/2012 08:12 AM, Timothy Murphy wrote: Genes MailLists wrote: ... K-menu-System Settings- Desktop Search As a matter of interest, what is lost if one does this (as I have). Presumably running strigi indexing must have some benefit? Desktop search:

Re: nfs mounts in fstab

2012-01-01 Thread Genes MailLists
On 01/01/2012 11:15 AM, Frank Murphy wrote: (I have line wraps here) my.server.here://nfs/store01 /home/myuser/Net01 nfs user,rw,noauto,hard,intr0 0 The problem I'm having is myuser on the client is uid:1000 (my son set up his own PC with Fedora16) on

Re: Preupgrade: Anaconda can't find upgrade root?

2012-01-01 Thread Richard Shaw
On Sat, Dec 31, 2011 at 11:29 AM, T.C. Hollingsworth tchollingswo...@gmail.com wrote: Is your /var on another partition?  If so, you're probably hitting this bug: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=748119 There's an updates.img in comment 42 that should fix it. That must be it!

Re: [mosty OT] trollfilter software

2012-01-01 Thread Joe Zeff
On 01/01/2012 07:54 AM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: Depending on particular needs, either IMAP or POP can be a better tool for the job. I think that saying POP is 1990's is a tad bit too overstated. ;-) I think the most important thing to remember here is that there isn't just One True Way.

Re: RS880 Audio Device (Radeon HD 4200) HDMI sound interface difficulties

2012-01-01 Thread Gregory P. Ennis
On Sat, Dec 31, 2011 at 6:14 PM, Gregory P. Ennis po...@pomec.net wrote: T.C. Thanks for the advice. I added the radeon.audio=1 to the kernel command line, but the hdmi still does not function. I tried to add the command to ./grub/menu.lst but looks like that file is not present in F16. I

Re: RS880 Audio Device (Radeon HD 4200) HDMI sound interface difficulties

2012-01-01 Thread T.C. Hollingsworth
On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 11:39 AM, Gregory P. Ennis po...@pomec.net wrote: T.C. Well looks like we have an answer the pulse audio daemon is not even running.chmod o+rw /dev/snd/*, Yep, that'll do it. ;-) What desktop environment do you use? What is the output of: rpm -qa '*pulseaudio*'

Re: RS880 Audio Device (Radeon HD 4200) HDMI sound interface difficulties

2012-01-01 Thread Gregory P. Ennis
On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 11:39 AM, Gregory P. Ennis po...@pomec.net wrote: T.C. Well looks like we have an answer the pulse audio daemon is not even running.chmod o+rw /dev/snd/*, Yep, that'll do it. ;-) What desktop environment do you use? What is the output of: rpm -qa '*pulseaudio*'

Re: Frequent D-Bus service launched with name: net.reactivated.Fprint

2012-01-01 Thread Peter Gordon
On Sun, 2012-01-01 at 08:03 -0500, Claude Jones wrote: On 12/31/2011 10:15 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: What is Fprint and why is it getting reactivated? It's the fingerprint reader driver. Why it's being reactivated I don't know. While I don't understand the specific details, I'm fairly

F16: Rhythmbox fails to sync iPod Classic

2012-01-01 Thread Steven F. LeBrun
I received an iPod Classic (160GB/2009 model) and have been trying to get it to sync using Rhythmbox. Every time that I attempt to sync the iPod using Rhythmbox, Rhythmbox crashes. It does not appear to crash the same way each time. At first, an error dialog box was appearing just before

Re: RS880 Audio Device (Radeon HD 4200) HDMI sound interface difficulties

2012-01-01 Thread T.C. Hollingsworth
On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 12:27 PM, Gregory P. Ennis po...@pomec.net wrote: T.C, I am using gnome, but have kde and xfce installed - have not tried either of the two at this point. Hmm, does /etc/xdg/autostart/pulseaudio.desktop exist? Not sure why GNOME isn't autostarting it. Here is the

Re: Desktop stickiness under Fedora-16/KDE

2012-01-01 Thread Olav Vitters
On Sat, Dec 31, 2011 at 10:32:18PM -0500, Genes MailLists wrote: yes - tho Gnome has a similar thing - it may be called Beagle .. but I'm not sure ... Beagle was used in the past. Currently it uses Tracker. Before the release of 3.0, Tracker could still negatively impacted performance. This

Re: RS880 Audio Device (Radeon HD 4200) HDMI sound interface difficulties

2012-01-01 Thread Gregory P. Ennis
On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 12:27 PM, Gregory P. Ennis po...@pomec.net wrote: T.C, I am using gnome, but have kde and xfce installed - have not tried either of the two at this point. Hmm, does /etc/xdg/autostart/pulseaudio.desktop exist? Not sure why GNOME isn't autostarting it. Here is the

Re: Gnome3 - Forced Fallback Mode

2012-01-01 Thread Olav Vitters
On Sat, Dec 31, 2011 at 04:48:33PM +1000, Michael D. Setzer II wrote: Gnome3 works fine on some of my systems, but unfortunately my classrooms machines with Nvidia Geoforce FX 5200 cards it only works about 80%. Could you link to either a screenshot or a picture of the problem? Sounds like a

Re: RS880 Audio Device (Radeon HD 4200) HDMI sound interface difficulties

2012-01-01 Thread T.C. Hollingsworth
On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 1:09 PM, Gregory P. Ennis po...@pomec.net wrote: T.C. /etc/xdg/autostart/pulseaudio.desktop does exist and Exec=start-pulseaudio-x11 is one of the line items of the file. That's very weird. I don't understand why it doesn't autostart. You should probably file a bug

Re: Error mount NFS -- nfs4_get_rootfh

2012-01-01 Thread Geoffrey Leach
On 12/31/2011 10:38:17 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 01/01/2012 02:29 PM, Geoffrey Leach wrote: /etc/exports on server yes. On client no (present but empty) OK Just sounded like both contained the same data Just wanted t Looks like you have 3 directories exported on the server?

Re: Error mount NFS -- nfs4_get_rootfh

2012-01-01 Thread Geoffrey Leach
Continuing the thread sigh :-) There's a thread concerning problems with nfs4 mounts where the UID and GID for a user were different on the client and server systems. As it happens, that applies to me. I moved my uid and gid on the server from 500 to 1000 and restarted the nfs processes

Re: Gnome3 - Forced Fallback Mode

2012-01-01 Thread antonio montagnani
Olav Vitters ha scritto / said the followingil giorno/on 01/01/2012 21:18: On Sat, Dec 31, 2011 at 04:48:33PM +1000, Michael D. Setzer II wrote: Gnome3 works fine on some of my systems, but unfortunately my classrooms machines with Nvidia Geoforce FX 5200 cards it only works about 80%.

Re: Error mount NFS -- nfs4_get_rootfh

2012-01-01 Thread Ed Greshko
On 01/02/2012 05:53 AM, Geoffrey Leach wrote: Continuing the thread sigh :-) I know. Really a pain when someone with, hopefully, the exact same setup can't duplicate the problem There's a thread concerning problems with nfs4 mounts where the UID and GID for a user were

Re: Error mount NFS -- nfs4_get_rootfh

2012-01-01 Thread Ed Greshko
On 01/02/2012 05:44 AM, Geoffrey Leach wrote: Yes, although the /tmp was just to test something, which proved to be irrelevant. OK So just to confirm. You have 3 file systems you want to export/mount on the other system. And you are unable to mount any of them. Correct? Have you

Re: RS880 Audio Device (Radeon HD 4200) HDMI sound interface difficulties

2012-01-01 Thread Gregory P. Ennis
On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 1:09 PM, Gregory P. Ennis po...@pomec.net wrote: T.C. /etc/xdg/autostart/pulseaudio.desktop does exist and Exec=start-pulseaudio-x11 is one of the line items of the file. That's very weird. I don't understand why it doesn't autostart. You should probably file a bug

Re: It's time for you to leave.

2012-01-01 Thread g
On 01/01/2012 10:05 AM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 12/31/2011 05:30 PM, g wrote: do consider this, *never* say you are sorry. people may agree with you. Thank you, Special Agent Gibbs. -=- lshicaf. welcome. now i am going to have to get a new personae. -- peace out. tc.hago, g . *please

Re: Error mount NFS -- nfs4_get_rootfh

2012-01-01 Thread Geoffrey Leach
On 01/01/2012 02:29:03 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 01/02/2012 05:44 AM, Geoffrey Leach wrote: Yes, although the /tmp was just to test something, which proved to be irrelevant. OK So just to confirm. You have 3 file systems you want to export/mount on the other system. And you are

Re: RS880 Audio Device (Radeon HD 4200) HDMI sound interface difficulties

2012-01-01 Thread Gregory P. Ennis
T.C. For some reason pulseaudio is starting now. I don't think my original observation was wrong, but ... Before I set up the .config/autstart in the users account I did a reboot and when I logged in pulseaudio was active. running 'pacmd suspend false' resulted in : Welcome to PulseAudio! Use

Re: No wireless (waiting for authorization) after awake from suspend

2012-01-01 Thread Gene Smith
On 12/15/2011 12:17 AM, Gene Smith wrote: On 09/05/2011 11:08 PM, Gene Smith wrote: F15 on new HP dv7-6195 (i7/sandy bridge) cannot regain wireless connection after awake from suspend. In KDE, I see notification waiting for authorization and then a key icon appears over the wireless icon in

Re: SOLVED Re: using rm *.rpm but keep some files?

2012-01-01 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 01Jan2012 13:15, Frank Murphy frankl...@gmail.com wrote: | On 01/01/12 13:10, Theodore Papadopoulo wrote: | Would this work: find /path/to/repo/*.rpm | grep -v foo* bar* | | rm *.rpm | | Make it | | find /path/to/repo/*.rpm -print | grep -v foo* bar* | xargs rm | | and that should work (not

Re: Gnome3 - Forced Fallback Mode

2012-01-01 Thread Michael D. Setzer II
On 1 Jan 2012 at 23:16, antonio montagnani wrote: Date sent: Sun, 01 Jan 2012 23:16:32 +0100 From: antonio montagnani antonio.montagn...@alice.it To: Community support for Fedora users users@lists.fedoraproject.org Subject:Re:

Re: Error mount NFS -- nfs4_get_rootfh

2012-01-01 Thread Ed Greshko
On 01/02/2012 07:23 AM, Geoffrey Leach wrote: I'll try anything. By working with one do you mean deleting the others from the server? Yes... -- A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof was to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools. --

Re: [mosty OT] trollfilter software

2012-01-01 Thread Joel Rees
On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 1:44 AM, Craig White craigwh...@azapple.com wrote: [...] not disputing access issues requiring Internet connection or security concerns w/r/t others handling the storage and ignoring the basic fact that e-mail is essentially an insecure medium to begin with [1] but...

F16 - Converting to RAID1

2012-01-01 Thread Brian Hanks
OK, I'm a long-time RedHat/Fedora user, but some of the recent changes (grub2, systemd, hal, etc.) are modifying or deprecating my tried and true methods. The latest issue I've got is that I want to add a second drive in a RAID1 config for my main data partitions. This is something I had

Re: Desktop stickiness under Fedora-16/KDE

2012-01-01 Thread Genes MailLists
On 01/01/2012 03:06 PM, Olav Vitters wrote: Beagle was used in the past. Currently it uses Tracker. Before the release of 3.0, Tracker could still negatively impacted performance. This was fixed before 3.0 (you can tell the kernel to give a low/idle priority for a processes IO, etc).

Re: F16 - Converting to RAID1

2012-01-01 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Brian Hanks writes: 1. Umount the two RAID devices with a current copy of data. 2. Edit /etc/fstab replacing Device IDs with new RAID devices (UUID= becomes /dev/md?) Although you can, /etc/fstab should still refer to filesystem UUIDs. If you're switch partitions, /etc/fstab will

Re: [mosty OT] trollfilter software

2012-01-01 Thread Craig White
On Mon, 2012-01-02 at 09:41 +0900, Joel Rees wrote: On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 1:44 AM, Craig White craigwh...@azapple.com wrote: Thus my statement that POP3 is so 1990's. 1990s? Nonsense. From my point of view, the entire internet, including IMAP4 is so 1960s. obviously I don't share

Re: Error mount NFS -- nfs4_get_rootfh

2012-01-01 Thread Geoffrey Leach
On 01/01/2012 04:31:00 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 01/02/2012 07:23 AM, Geoffrey Leach wrote: I'll try anything. By working with one do you mean deleting the others from the server? Yes... H ... well, I blew that. I removed (rm -rf) the entry in / nfsexports for /usr/local. And away went

Re: Error mount NFS -- nfs4_get_rootfh

2012-01-01 Thread Ed Greshko
On 01/02/2012 11:56 AM, Geoffrey Leach wrote: H ... well, I blew that. I removed (rm -rf) the entry in / nfsexports for /usr/local. And away went the entire directory. What was the correct method? Ahhhno. The entries in /nfs4exports were the results of the mount --bind. You should

Fedora iso checksums

2012-01-01 Thread Julius Smith
Why is it so hard to find the iso checksums for Fedora releases? It is easy to find the .iso downloads themselves, and we're asked to verify them, but it is very hard to find the checksums! I ultimately had to search the Web for the checksum itself! -- Anybody who knows all about nothing knows

Re: Error mount NFS -- nfs4_get_rootfh

2012-01-01 Thread Ed Greshko
On 01/02/2012 12:06 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 01/02/2012 11:56 AM, Geoffrey Leach wrote: H ... well, I blew that. I removed (rm -rf) the entry in / nfsexports for /usr/local. And away went the entire directory. What was the correct method? Ahhhno. The entries in /nfs4exports were

Re: Error mount NFS -- nfs4_get_rootfh

2012-01-01 Thread Geoffrey Leach
On 01/01/2012 08:30:18 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 01/02/2012 12:06 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 01/02/2012 11:56 AM, Geoffrey Leach wrote: H ... well, I blew that. I removed (rm -rf) the entry in / nfsexports for /usr/local. And away went the entire directory. What was the correct

Re: problem with konsole of kile on F15

2012-01-01 Thread Adel ESSAFI
OK 2011/12/31 stan gr...@q.com On Sat, 31 Dec 2011 10:54:45 +0100 Adel ESSAFI adeless...@gmail.com wrote: In this last day of 2011, I have a question about konsole of kile on F15. This konsole do not appear on F15. is there anyone who resolved this I don't use this application, but I

Re: problem with konsole of kile on F15

2012-01-01 Thread Adel ESSAFI
hello, I started it for terminal but I got no warning. I know that konsole does not exist in kde 4 and kile is writen with kde3. Could you please verify if you have konsole on your system? Thanks 2011/12/31 stan gr...@q.com On Sat, 31 Dec 2011 10:54:45 +0100 Adel ESSAFI adeless...@gmail.com

Re: Fedora iso checksums

2012-01-01 Thread Fennix
On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 12:26 PM, Julius Smith j...@ccrma.stanford.eduwrote: Why is it so hard to find the iso checksums for Fedora releases? It is easy to find the .iso downloads themselves, and we're asked to verify them, but it is very hard to find the checksums! I ultimately had to search