Re: evince

2013-12-04 Thread Patrick Dupre
In looking at the document's properties and selecting the fonts tab I noticed that it was using /usr/share/fonts/google-croscore/SymbolNeu.ttf for symbols on my F19 system. This comes with the google-croscore-symbolneu-fonts package. Erasing this package resulted in a delta being

Re: evince

2013-12-04 Thread Ed Greshko
On 12/04/13 18:19, Patrick Dupre wrote: In looking at the document's properties and selecting the fonts tab I noticed that it was using /usr/share/fonts/google-croscore/SymbolNeu.ttf for symbols on my F19 system. This comes with the google-croscore-symbolneu-fonts package. Erasing this

Re: evince

2013-12-04 Thread Ed Greshko
On 12/04/13 18:37, Ed Greshko wrote: The fact that it fails with the google-croscore-symbolneu-fonts package as well would indicate that it isn't a font file issue. In fact, if you use something such as the Gnome Character Map you'd see that the character displays properly in that app no

Re: evince

2013-12-04 Thread Tim
Allegedly, on or about 04 December 2013, Ed Greshko sent: The fact that it fails with the google-croscore-symbolneu-fonts package as well would indicate that it isn't a font file issue. In fact, if you use something such as the Gnome Character Map you'd see that the character displays

Re: evince

2013-12-04 Thread poma
On 04.12.2013 11:37, Ed Greshko wrote: [egreshko@meimei F20-TC4]$ echo Δ | od -bc You are running ahead, Ed. F20 ain't an official, so https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test poma -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription

Re: optimal(?) layout of fedora 19 with one SSD drive and one regular HD?

2013-12-04 Thread Roberto Ragusa
On 12/04/2013 05:07 AM, Tim wrote: If hibernating is going to be a memory dump to hard drive, then the hard drive space (it's using the swap file/partition) *needs* to be big enough. Doing something that *might* work, doesn't fit the definition of doing what *needs* to be done, to make it

Re: evince

2013-12-04 Thread Ed Greshko
On 12/04/13 19:16, Tim wrote: Allegedly, on or about 04 December 2013, Ed Greshko sent: The fact that it fails with the google-croscore-symbolneu-fonts package as well would indicate that it isn't a font file issue. In fact, if you use something such as the Gnome Character Map you'd see that

Re: evince

2013-12-04 Thread Ed Greshko
On 12/04/13 19:59, Ed Greshko wrote: On 12/04/13 19:16, Tim wrote: Allegedly, on or about 04 December 2013, Ed Greshko sent: The fact that it fails with the google-croscore-symbolneu-fonts package as well would indicate that it isn't a font file issue. In fact, if you use something such as

Fedora OpenID not working

2013-12-04 Thread Suvayu Ali
Hi, I'm trying to login to Fedora copr, but I keep getting 502 Bad Gateway. The server returned an invalid or incomplete response. from id.fedoraproject.org. I can login to FAS though. Can anyone confirm? Where do I report problems like these? Thanks, -- Suvayu Open source is the future.

yum repository-packages fedora install

2013-12-04 Thread George R Goffe
Hi, I'm just learning about yum and so, I just ran the above command. This caused yum to try to install ALL the packages in the fedora repository. Yum proceeded to do Dependency Resolution which generated a ton of errors. Would it be useful for me to post this list of error messages? Thanks,

Re: yum repository-packages fedora install

2013-12-04 Thread Mark Haney
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 What exactly are you trying to do? When posting it would more helpful if you explained what you were trying to accomplish. Especially when running commands. On 12/4/2013 10:05 AM, George R Goffe wrote: Hi, I'm just learning about yum and so,

Re: Fedora OpenID not working

2013-12-04 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Wed, 4 Dec 2013 14:54:44 +0100 Suvayu Ali fatkasuvayu+li...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I'm trying to login to Fedora copr, but I keep getting 502 Bad Gateway. The server returned an invalid or incomplete response. from id.fedoraproject.org. I can login to FAS though. Can anyone confirm?

Re: yum repository-packages fedora install

2013-12-04 Thread poma
On 04.12.2013 16:17, Mark Haney wrote: What exactly are you trying to do? When posting it would more helpful https://support.mozillamessaging.com/en-US/kb/reply-above-or-below-quoted-text poma -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options:

Re: yum repository-packages fedora install

2013-12-04 Thread Mark Haney
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 12/4/2013 11:27 AM, poma wrote: On 04.12.2013 16:17, Mark Haney wrote: What exactly are you trying to do? When posting it would more helpful https://support.mozillamessaging.com/en-US/kb/reply-above-or-below-quoted-text poma

Re: yum repository-packages fedora install

2013-12-04 Thread Marvin Kosmal
Hi I don't post any more. Something changed in google.. I don't know how to bottom post now.. Maybe I will download and use Thunderbird for my mail client? TIA Marvin On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 8:48 AM, Mark Haney mha...@practichem.com wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1

Re: yum repository-packages fedora install

2013-12-04 Thread Pomidora Belisima
On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 6:03 PM, Marvin Kosmal mkos...@gmail.com wrote: Hi I don't post any more. Something changed in google.. I don't know how to bottom post now.. Maybe I will download and use Thunderbird for my mail client? TIA Marvin This is sent via gmail web interface. Replay

Re: yum repository-packages fedora install

2013-12-04 Thread poma
On 04.12.2013 17:48, Mark Haney wrote: On 12/4/2013 11:27 AM, poma wrote: On 04.12.2013 16:17, Mark Haney wrote: What exactly are you trying to do? When posting it would more helpful https://support.mozillamessaging.com/en-US/kb/reply-above-or-below-quoted-text poma Really?

Re: yum repository-packages fedora install

2013-12-04 Thread poma
On 04.12.2013 16:05, George R Goffe wrote: Hi, I'm just learning about yum and so, I just ran the above command. This caused yum to try to install ALL the packages in the fedora repository. Yum proceeded to do Dependency Resolution which generated a ton of errors. Would it be useful

Re: Default browser

2013-12-04 Thread Beartooth
On Wed, 04 Dec 2013 01:32:33 +0100, poma wrote: On 03.12.2013 19:09, Beartooth wrote: Thank you, sir! Aahh, these are the first kind words from you. Much obliged. I hope it was not too difficult to utter. So far, I have seen nothing but sneers and snarls from this poster,

Re: Default browser

2013-12-04 Thread poma
On 04.12.2013 18:42, Beartooth wrote: On Wed, 04 Dec 2013 01:32:33 +0100, poma wrote: On 03.12.2013 19:09, Beartooth wrote: Thank you, sir! Aahh, these are the first kind words from you. Much obliged. I hope it was not too difficult to utter. So far, I have seen nothing but

Re: local user get created magically ! system hacked ?

2013-12-04 Thread Rick Stevens
On 12/03/2013 11:47 PM, Michael Schwendt issued this missive: On Tue, 03 Dec 2013 23:08:04 +0100, Jehan Procaccia wrote: hello I use about a hundred fedora19 stations in computer labs at our school users accounts comes from an ldap directory and the homedir is automounted via NFS. However,

Fedora's audience

2013-12-04 Thread Beartooth
Recent exchanges here and in related places have reminded me strongly of long discussions held on RedHat lists fifteen or twenty years ago. Was (now is) RH/F, and Linux generally, *for* all sundry? Or was/is it essentially a plaything of the Alpha Plus Technoids? Which

Re: Fedora's audience

2013-12-04 Thread David
On 12/4/2013 1:25 PM, Beartooth wrote: Recent exchanges here and in related places have reminded me strongly of long discussions held on RedHat lists fifteen or twenty years ago. Was (now is) RH/F, and Linux generally, *for* all sundry? Or was/is it essentially a

Re: Fedora's audience

2013-12-04 Thread Joe Zeff
On 12/04/2013 10:25 AM, Beartooth wrote: By this time, at an informed guess, the Boomers must be retiring in spates and floods. My subjective impression is that I see more fellow retirees than before, but I can't guess numbers. Does anyone here have such numbers, or know of a source

Re: Fedora's audience

2013-12-04 Thread davidschaak1
Sorry for top posting. This phone doesn't allow bottom posting. I'm 57 years old and I have been using linux, more on than off, since 1997, and exclusively since 2003 or so. I find it is more stable than either windows or macos and more usable than dos, even at the command prompt. Hth Dave

Re: Fedora's audience

2013-12-04 Thread ergodic
OK I am 82. My first Fedora Core install was FC-3 and before that Red Hat 4 if my memory does not trick me. Today running in different boxes, F-18, F-19, F-20beta. Multibooting Debian Wheezy, F-19 and Windows 8.1. My most sincere thanks to all the developers and contributors. Well done. M. A.

Re: Default browser

2013-12-04 Thread Rolf Turner
On 12/05/13 06:42, Beartooth wrote: On Wed, 04 Dec 2013 01:32:33 +0100, poma wrote: On 03.12.2013 19:09, Beartooth wrote: Thank you, sir! Aahh, these are the first kind words from you. Much obliged. I hope it was not too difficult to utter. So far, I have seen nothing but

Re: Fedora's audience

2013-12-04 Thread Frank
On 04/12/13 03:47 PM, ergodic wrote: OK I am 82. My first Fedora Core install was FC-3 and before that Red Hat 4 if my memory does not trick me. Today running in different boxes, F-18, F-19, F-20beta. Multibooting Debian Wheezy, F-19 and Windows 8.1. My most sincere thanks to all the

Re: local user get created magically ! system hacked ?

2013-12-04 Thread Jehan Procaccia
Le 04/12/2013 18:51, Rick Stevens a écrit : On 12/03/2013 11:47 PM, Michael Schwendt issued this missive: On Tue, 03 Dec 2013 23:08:04 +0100, Jehan Procaccia wrote: hello I use about a hundred fedora19 stations in computer labs at our school users accounts comes from an ldap directory and the

Re: Fedora OpenID not working

2013-12-04 Thread Suvayu Ali
Hi Kevin, On Wed, Dec 04, 2013 at 08:56:23AM -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote: On Wed, 4 Dec 2013 14:54:44 +0100 Suvayu Ali fatkasuvayu+li...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I'm trying to login to Fedora copr, but I keep getting 502 Bad Gateway. The server returned an invalid or incomplete response.

Re: local user get created magically ! system hacked ?

2013-12-04 Thread Rick Stevens
On 12/04/2013 01:42 PM, Jehan Procaccia issued this missive: Le 04/12/2013 18:51, Rick Stevens a écrit : On 12/03/2013 11:47 PM, Michael Schwendt issued this missive: On Tue, 03 Dec 2013 23:08:04 +0100, Jehan Procaccia wrote: hello I use about a hundred fedora19 stations in computer labs at

Re: Fedora's audience

2013-12-04 Thread Antonio Olivares
Guess all the 'younger' members are afraid to reply :) I am 72 (73 next month ) and have been running Linux since 1997...Fedora since 2010. along with Debian Sid and Windows 7. Best of the season to all developers-contributors and users. -- I am 38 yrs young and have been using

Re: local user get created magically ! system hacked ?

2013-12-04 Thread Jehan Procaccia
Le 04/12/2013 23:04, Rick Stevens a écrit : On 12/04/2013 01:42 PM, Jehan Procaccia issued this missive: Le 04/12/2013 18:51, Rick Stevens a écrit : On 12/03/2013 11:47 PM, Michael Schwendt issued this missive: On Tue, 03 Dec 2013 23:08:04 +0100, Jehan Procaccia wrote: hello I use about a

Re: Fedora's audience

2013-12-04 Thread Steven Rosenberg
I always turn to Fedora when I have new hardware because it's the easiest way to get the latest kernels, drivers and other bits that give that hardware the best chance of working. If it matters, I'm 47. -- Steven Rosenberg http://stevenrosenberg.net/blog http://blogs.dailynews.com/click

Re: Fedora's audience

2013-12-04 Thread eoconno...@gmail.com
Nonsense!so far I'm the youngest...I've been using Linux since Fedora 9.. it has been a love-hate marriage.but I'm not leaving.EVER! This OS has got to be the BEST I've ever used!! To the developersmaintainers.marketerstestersand everyone involved with this

Re: Fedora's audience

2013-12-04 Thread Tim
Allegedly, on or about 04 December 2013, Frank sent: Guess all the 'younger' members are afraid to reply :) Oi! insert some rude/nice/amusing old person insult I'm middle-aged. I've played with computers since before the PC days (sending punch cards in the post), ignored the C64 but used

Re: optimal(?) layout of fedora 19 with one SSD drive and one regular HD?

2013-12-04 Thread Tim
Allegedly, on or about 04 December 2013, Roberto Ragusa sent: Then, you must also consider that some swap space could be already used when you hibernate. You need to have enough _free_ swap space. (It happened to me in the past to have to close some applications to fit the hibernation image

Re: optimal(?) layout of fedora 19 with one SSD drive and one regular HD?

2013-12-04 Thread Joe Zeff
On 12/04/2013 03:21 PM, Tim wrote: It's probably the reasoning behind make swap twice as big as RAM. It should leave enough room for RAM to fit into swap, and the wiggle room for the OS to tidy up swap as it hibernates things. Sorry, but I have to inform you that you're putting the cart

Re: Fedora's audience

2013-12-04 Thread David G . Miller
Tim ignored_mailbox at yahoo.com.au writes: Allegedly, on or about 04 December 2013, Frank sent: Guess all the 'younger' members are afraid to reply :) Oi! insert some rude/nice/amusing old person insult I'm middle-aged. I've played with computers since before the PC days (sending

Re: Fedora's audience

2013-12-04 Thread Edik Landaveri
I unite my voice of thanks as well to the developersmaintainers.marketerstestersand everyone involved with it?THANK YOU SO MUCH! -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options:

Re: F18: XDMCP kinda works....

2013-12-04 Thread Dan Thurman
On 11/30/2013 12:52 PM, Dan Thurman wrote: but fails to show password-box after clicking the User name thus impossible to log on. Syslog data pertinent to XDMCP: Dec 4 16:56:44 gold xinetd[1186]: START: vnc-1024x768x24 pid=4672 from=:::10.1.0.5 Dec 4 16:56:45 gold dbus-daemon[781]:

Re: Fedora's audience

2013-12-04 Thread Roger
On 12/05/2013 12:24 PM, Edik Landaveri wrote: I unite my voice of thanks as well to the developersmaintainers.marketerstestersand everyone involved with it?THANK YOU SO MUCH! Me Too! I enjoy Fedora Roger -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe

simple-mtpfs fills root filesystem

2013-12-04 Thread Alex
Hi, I have an fc18 box that I use to mount my Samsung Galaxy S4 SPH-L720 to manage files. It worked fine with my S3, but now with the S4, every time I connect it, it creates a directory similar to /tmp/simple-mtpfs-r1ZApu with the images from the Camera directory on my phone until the filesystem

Re: optimal(?) layout of fedora 19 with one SSD drive and one regular HD?

2013-12-04 Thread Chris Murphy
On Dec 4, 2013, at 4:29 PM, Joe Zeff j...@zeff.us wrote: On 12/04/2013 03:21 PM, Tim wrote: It's probably the reasoning behind make swap twice as big as RAM. It should leave enough room for RAM to fit into swap, and the wiggle room for the OS to tidy up swap as it hibernates things.

Re: simple-mtpfs fills root filesystem

2013-12-04 Thread Joe Zeff
On 12/04/2013 06:17 PM, Alex wrote: It looks like many files are duplicated, because I don't even have 10G worth of pictures on the phone. The files look like 010037f1903cd1a154f69bd11897ad5c656d854f and contain actual JPEG pictures. After unmounting the filesystem, the contents of the

Re: optimal(?) layout of fedora 19 with one SSD drive and one regular HD?

2013-12-04 Thread Joe Zeff
On 12/04/2013 07:25 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: Well there's more than one rule of thumb even on linux. And the paging method on DOS is different than NT, so it's surely different than linux, BSD, or OS X. Case in point, OS X has never had the idea of user configurable swap. The dynamic_pager

Re: simple-mtpfs fills root filesystem

2013-12-04 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 12/05/2013 03:17 AM, Alex wrote: Hi, I have an fc18 box that I use to mount my Samsung Galaxy S4 SPH-L720 to manage files. It worked fine with my S3, but now with the S4, every time I connect it, it creates a directory similar to /tmp/simple-mtpfs-r1ZApu with the images from the Camera