Re: f20 - gedit

2013-12-19 Thread Ahmad Samir
On 18 December 2013 20:42, bitlord bitlord0...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, 2013-12-18 at 12:49 -0500, Robert Moskowitz wrote: Well here comes the questions on 'where is it now'. Of course since I skipped f18 f19, these may be 'old' issues So with gedit, where 'preferences'? I need to turn

Re: F20: system does not resume from hibernate

2013-12-19 Thread Chris Murphy
On Dec 19, 2013, at 12:10 AM, Ranjan Maitra maitra.mbox.igno...@inbox.com wrote: Hello, I have been putting my F20 laptop to hibernate using systemctl hibernate: everything works fine, except that starting up has usually ended up doing a reboot and going to the login screen. Make sure

Re: F20: system does not resume from hibernate

2013-12-19 Thread Joachim Backes
On 12/19/2013 09:39 AM, Chris Murphy wrote: On Dec 19, 2013, at 12:10 AM, Ranjan Maitra maitra.mbox.igno...@inbox.com wrote: Hello, I have been putting my F20 laptop to hibernate using systemctl hibernate: everything works fine, except that starting up has usually ended up doing a

Re: gmvault fails on fedora 17

2013-12-19 Thread Frank Murphy
On Thu, 19 Dec 2013 07:32:44 +0100 M. Fioretti mfiore...@nexaima.net wrote: This is why, while being perfectly aware that Fedora 17 is unsupported, that even those other packages may stop working etc.. I'd really like to know what, exactly, makes gmvault fail in that way, on that system.

Re: Fedora 19 packages on F20

2013-12-19 Thread Frank Murphy
On Thu, 19 Dec 2013 01:16:03 -0600 Ranjan Maitra maitra.mbox.igno...@inbox.com wrote: which is what would happen if we just had a rolling release model That was argued to death on @devel it lost -- Regards, Frank www.frankly3d.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: f20 strange local repo behaviour

2013-12-19 Thread Frank Murphy
On Wed, 18 Dec 2013 18:24:07 -0500 Robert Moskowitz r...@htt-consult.com wrote: when I edited the yum.repos.d files to point to my local repos, I got the following error doing a yum update: Error: Package: gnutls-utils-3.1.17-3.fc20.i686 (updates) Requires: libopts.so.25 You

Re: f20 - gedit

2013-12-19 Thread Edward M
On Thu, 19 Dec 2013 10:07:01 +0200 Ahmad Samir ahmadsamir3...@gmail.com wrote: On 18 December 2013 20:42, bitlord bitlord0...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, 2013-12-18 at 12:49 -0500, Robert Moskowitz wrote: Well here comes the questions on 'where is it now'. Of course since I skipped f18 f19,

Re: Fedora 19 packages on F20

2013-12-19 Thread Mateusz Marzantowicz
On 19.12.2013 07:46, Joe Zeff wrote: On 12/18/2013 10:42 PM, Ranjan Maitra wrote: Off a fresh install of F20 because upgrade did not work spectacularly, I noticed that there are a number of F19 packages (including some from rpmfusion) on my machine. That just means that there's not a newer

Re: Fedora 19 packages on F20

2013-12-19 Thread Frank Murphy
On Thu, 19 Dec 2013 11:17:46 +0100 Mateusz Marzantowicz mmarzantow...@osdf.com.pl wrote: ownload for an upgrade if they did. That just means that someone haven done his job or there was an error during package rebuild which hasn't been fixed yet (correct me if I'm wrong but there is something

Re: F20: system does not resume from hibernate

2013-12-19 Thread fedora
Did you insert the RESUME disk (i.e. your swap partition) into your linux statement in the grub menu? e,g, linux /vmlinuz-3.11.9-100.fc18.x86_64 root=UUID=722d9f6f-867b-4c04-a340-ba3caa23c42f ro rd.md=0 rd.lvm=0 rd.dm=0 vconsole.keymap=sg rd.luks=0 LANG=en_US.UTF-8

Re: f20 - gedit

2013-12-19 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 12/19/2013 03:07 AM, Ahmad Samir wrote: On 18 December 2013 20:42, bitlord bitlord0...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, 2013-12-18 at 12:49 -0500, Robert Moskowitz wrote: Well here comes the questions on 'where is it now'. Of course since I skipped f18 f19, these may be 'old' issues So with

how closely does fedora 20 adhere to the FHS? if FHS is relevant amymore.

2013-12-19 Thread Robert P. J. Day
while i appreciate the formalization of the Filesystem Hierarchy Standard (FHS), it's certainly been a while since it's been updated: http://www.pathname.com/fhs/ is it still used as a file/directory layout standard? how *is* it used these days? surely things have changed somewhat since

Re: f20 - gedit

2013-12-19 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 12/19/2013 09:02 PM, Edward M wrote: On Thu, 19 Dec 2013 10:07:01 +0200 Ahmad Samir ahmadsamir3...@gmail.com wrote: On 18 December 2013 20:42, bitlord bitlord0...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, 2013-12-18 at 12:49 -0500, Robert Moskowitz wrote: Well here comes the questions on 'where is it

Re: how closely does fedora 20 adhere to the FHS? if FHS is relevant amymore.

2013-12-19 Thread Frank Murphy
On Thu, 19 Dec 2013 07:51:59 -0500 Robert P. J. Day rpj...@crashcourse.ca wrote: is it still used as a file/directory layout standard? how *is* it used these days? surely things have changed somewhat since 2004, although the general concepts of the FHS are still totally valid. rday

Re: f20 - gedit

2013-12-19 Thread Alexander Volovics
On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 08:05:49AM -0500, Robert Moskowitz wrote: Confirm used dconf-editor instead to set the overrides and now those entries appear within gedit. What did you change? I just went through all of dconf-editor listed items and did not recognize anything to change that would

Re: Fedora 19 packages on F20

2013-12-19 Thread Ranjan Maitra
On Thu, 19 Dec 2013 10:22:14 + Frank Murphy frankl...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, 19 Dec 2013 11:17:46 +0100 Mateusz Marzantowicz mmarzantow...@osdf.com.pl wrote: ownload for an upgrade if they did. That just means that someone haven done his job or there was an error during package

Re: Fedora 19 packages on F20

2013-12-19 Thread Frank Murphy
On Thu, 19 Dec 2013 07:36:39 -0600 Ranjan Maitra maitra.mbox.igno...@inbox.com wrote: Actually not in this case. It was a clean install. I would still run yum --releasever=20 distro-sync --skip-broken -- Regards, Frank www.frankly3d.com -- users mailing list

Re: F20: system does not resume from hibernate

2013-12-19 Thread Ranjan Maitra
On Thu, 19 Dec 2013 10:13:59 +0100 Joachim Backes joachim.bac...@rhrk.uni-kl.de wrote: On 12/19/2013 09:39 AM, Chris Murphy wrote: On Dec 19, 2013, at 12:10 AM, Ranjan Maitra maitra.mbox.igno...@inbox.com wrote: Hello, I have been putting my F20 laptop to hibernate using

Re: Fedora 19 packages on F20

2013-12-19 Thread Ed Greshko
On 12/19/13 21:36, Ranjan Maitra wrote: On Thu, 19 Dec 2013 10:22:14 + Frank Murphy frankl...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, 19 Dec 2013 11:17:46 +0100 Mateusz Marzantowicz mmarzantow...@osdf.com.pl wrote: ownload for an upgrade if they did. That just means that someone haven done his job or

Re: F20: system does not resume from hibernate

2013-12-19 Thread Joachim Backes
On 12/19/2013 02:47 PM, Ranjan Maitra wrote: On Thu, 19 Dec 2013 10:13:59 +0100 Joachim Backes joachim.bac...@rhrk.uni-kl.de wrote: On 12/19/2013 09:39 AM, Chris Murphy wrote: On Dec 19, 2013, at 12:10 AM, Ranjan Maitra maitra.mbox.igno...@inbox.com wrote: Hello, I have been putting

Re: F20: system does not resume from hibernate

2013-12-19 Thread Ranjan Maitra
On Thu, 19 Dec 2013 14:51:33 +0100 Joachim Backes joachim.bac...@rhrk.uni-kl.de wrote: On 12/19/2013 02:47 PM, Ranjan Maitra wrote: On Thu, 19 Dec 2013 10:13:59 +0100 Joachim Backes joachim.bac...@rhrk.uni-kl.de wrote: On 12/19/2013 09:39 AM, Chris Murphy wrote: On Dec 19, 2013, at

Re: Fedora 19 packages on F20

2013-12-19 Thread Mateusz Marzantowicz
On 19.12.2013 11:22, Frank Murphy wrote: On Thu, 19 Dec 2013 11:17:46 +0100 Mateusz Marzantowicz mmarzantow...@osdf.com.pl wrote: ownload for an upgrade if they did. That just means that someone haven done his job or there was an error during package rebuild which hasn't been fixed yet

Re: Fedora 19 packages on F20

2013-12-19 Thread Frank Murphy
On Thu, 19 Dec 2013 15:18:18 +0100 Mateusz Marzantowicz mmarzantow...@osdf.com.pl wrote: On 19.12.2013 11:22, Frank Murphy wrote: On Thu, 19 Dec 2013 11:17:46 +0100 Mateusz Marzantowicz mmarzantow...@osdf.com.pl wrote: ownload for an upgrade if they did. That just means that someone

Re: gmvault fails on fedora 17

2013-12-19 Thread M. Fioretti
On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 09:50:01 AM +, Frank Murphy wrote: Fedora 17 has python 2.7 as can be seen and python modules built against 2.7 (normal practise) Check the src, and see if you need to install some lib* https://github.com/gaubert/gmvault/tree/v1.8-beta-20130321 You won't get

Re: F20: system does not resume from hibernate

2013-12-19 Thread Ranjan Maitra
On Thu, 19 Dec 2013 07:59:45 -0600 Ranjan Maitra maitra.mbox.igno...@inbox.com wrote: On Thu, 19 Dec 2013 14:51:33 +0100 Joachim Backes joachim.bac...@rhrk.uni-kl.de wrote: On 12/19/2013 02:47 PM, Ranjan Maitra wrote: On Thu, 19 Dec 2013 10:13:59 +0100 Joachim Backes

Re: F20: system does not resume from hibernate

2013-12-19 Thread Frank Murphy
On Thu, 19 Dec 2013 08:50:04 -0600 Ranjan Maitra maitra.mbox.igno...@inbox.com wrote: You can also use resume=/dev/sdxy (your swap partition). That's more simple :-) Absolutely, thanks! But where do I find this value? I can't see it on my df: Answering my own question: after

Re: F20: system does not resume from hibernate (SOLVED!)

2013-12-19 Thread Ranjan Maitra
On Thu, 19 Dec 2013 14:52:04 + Frank Murphy frankl...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, 19 Dec 2013 08:50:04 -0600 Ranjan Maitra maitra.mbox.igno...@inbox.com wrote: You can also use resume=/dev/sdxy (your swap partition). That's more simple :-) Absolutely, thanks! But where

Re: What to try instead of gnome - Re: f20 - gedit

2013-12-19 Thread Greg Woods
On Wed, 2013-12-18 at 17:32 -0500, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 12/18/2013 05:20 PM, Dennis Kaptain wrote: Mate is a fork of Gnome2. I use it and like it a lot. This is selectable at install? The desktop environments that you can select at install time are pretty limited; I don't think

Re: how closely does fedora 20 adhere to the FHS? if FHS is relevant amymore.

2013-12-19 Thread Rahul Sundaram
HI On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 7:51 AM, Robert P. J. Day wrote: while i appreciate the formalization of the Filesystem Hierarchy Standard (FHS), it's certainly been a while since it's been updated: http://www.pathname.com/fhs/ is it still used as a file/directory layout standard? how

Re: hacked - looking for doc/suggestions on hardening/securing systems from the start

2013-12-19 Thread Tim
Allegedly, on or about 18 December 2013, Rick Stevens sent: 3. Make sure you enforce complex passwords and require them to be rotated at least every 90 days. I take issue with the continually changing passwords idea. If you get hacked, changing the password after the event is too late. And if

FedUp 18 - 19 Orphans

2013-12-19 Thread Kevin H. Hobbs
I just updated from Fedora 18 to 19 with fedup. After the update I have many orphaned packages : # package-cleanup --orphans | wc -l 635 When I examine them I see things like fedora-release, zlib, and such. They mostly exist alongside their identical fedora 19 versions : # package-cleanup

Re: FedUp 18 - 19 Orphans

2013-12-19 Thread Frank Murphy
On Thu, 19 Dec 2013 12:16:16 -0500 Kevin H. Hobbs hob...@ohio.edu wrote: I just updated from Fedora 18 to 19 with fedup. Any idea what's going on? package-cleanup --dupes packagecleanup --cleandupes -- Regards, Frank www.frankly3d.com -- users mailing list

Re: hacked - looking for doc/suggestions on hardening/securing systems from the start

2013-12-19 Thread Mark Haney
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 12/19/2013 12:16 PM, Tim wrote: You really need something that detects attempt to crack passwords, responds appropriately to thwart the attacks while they happen, and immediately notifies you that an attempt is happening as it happens (e.g.

Re: F20: system does not resume from hibernate

2013-12-19 Thread Tim
Allegedly, on or about 19 December 2013, Ranjan Maitra sent: According to this bug report, I need to add resume=swapdevice to the grub line. I have to ask: We should *we* have to do that? Surely, the *installation* *routine* should be setting that up. -- [tim@localhost ~]$ uname -rsvp

Re: [389-users] Password Failure Lockout doesn't seem to work

2013-12-19 Thread JLPicard
These issues are happening on a Solaris Sparc server, most of our infrastructure is Solaris Sparc, with some Solaris X86 servers. The Solaris equivalent of NSCD called svc:/system/name-service-cache:default is running. I am not familiar with authconfig, I can look for the Solaris equivalent

Re: hacked - looking for doc/suggestions on hardening/securing systems from the start

2013-12-19 Thread Roger Heflin
If you have not installed it, install denyhosts...it watches for ssh password attacks and locks out hosts automatically. It does limit the number of attempts someone gets before being completely locked out. On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 11:22 AM, Mark Haney mha...@practichem.com wrote: -BEGIN

f20 - SD card dropping to read-only after suspend/resume

2013-12-19 Thread Robert Moskowitz
I have an SD card all the time in my Asus ee900 that I have just put f20 i386 on. I close the system regularly then open it up, unlock and do something. On f17, this was not a problem. I just realized that the SD card would become read-only after resume. i have to unmount it, remove it,

Re: hacked - looking for doc/suggestions on hardening/securing systems from the start

2013-12-19 Thread Mark Haney
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 12/19/2013 12:44 PM, Roger Heflin wrote: If you have not installed it, install denyhosts...it watches for ssh password attacks and locks out hosts automatically. Yes, denyhosts is also a good package and one I've forgotten about. Thanks for

Re: F20: system does not resume from hibernate

2013-12-19 Thread Steven Rosenberg
On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 9:32 AM, Tim ignored_mail...@yahoo.com.au wrote: I have to ask: We should *we* have to do that? Surely, the *installation* *routine* should be setting that up. And how! -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options:

Re: hacked - looking for doc/suggestions on hardening/securing systems from the start

2013-12-19 Thread Steven Stern
On 12/18/2013 11:05 AM, bruce wrote: Hey guys. - subject says it all!! For a basic centos/fedora install. Need to have pointers/docs/suggestions/solid steps to actually harden/secure a system. I've looked at a bunch of different articles/sites, so I'm also turning here. Also, are there

Re: F20: system does not resume from hibernate

2013-12-19 Thread Ranjan Maitra
On Thu, 19 Dec 2013 10:00:16 -0800 Steven Rosenberg stevenhrosenb...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 9:32 AM, Tim ignored_mail...@yahoo.com.au wrote: I have to ask: We should *we* have to do that? Surely, the *installation* *routine* should be setting that up. And how! Like

Re: hacked - looking for doc/suggestions on hardening/securing systems from the start

2013-12-19 Thread Tethys
On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 5:16 PM, Tim ignored_mail...@yahoo.com.au wrote: If you get hacked, changing the password after the event is too late. And if they installed a backdoor, changing your password will be completely pointless. If you haven't been hacked, you're just making life harder for

Re: hacked - looking for doc/suggestions on hardening/securing systems from the start

2013-12-19 Thread bruce
guys.. The project that the corrupt system is going to be driving will create a distributed network of systems, where the edge systems, are tied back into the central server(s). Think of the BOINC/SETI project, where you have a bunch of edge systems doing work and communicating back to the master

Re: Re: FedUp 18 - 19 Orphans

2013-12-19 Thread Kevin H. Hobbs
Frank wrote: package-cleanup --dupes packagecleanup --cleandupes Somewhere in there some some dependency leaves fc18 and starts ripping out large parts of fc19.. It looks to be perl # yum remove `package-cleanup --dupes | grep perl | grep fc18` ... Remove 67 Packages (+32 Dependent

Re: FedUp 18 - 19 Orphans

2013-12-19 Thread M A Young
On Thu, 19 Dec 2013, Kevin H. Hobbs wrote: I just updated from Fedora 18 to 19 with fedup. After the update I have many orphaned packages : # package-cleanup --orphans | wc -l 635 When I examine them I see things like fedora-release, zlib, and such. They mostly exist alongside their

Re: hacked - looking for doc/suggestions on hardening/securing systems from the start

2013-12-19 Thread Paweł Sikora
On Friday 20 of December 2013 03:46:13 Tim wrote: Allegedly, on or about 18 December 2013, Rick Stevens sent: 3. Make sure you enforce complex passwords and require them to be rotated at least every 90 days. I take issue with the continually changing passwords idea. using rotated

Solved - Re: f20 - hostname

2013-12-19 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 12/18/2013 06:01 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 12/18/2013 05:43 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 12/19/13 05:30, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 12/18/2013 04:08 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 12/19/13 03:57, Robert Moskowitz wrote: Yes. I have notes on this, and did the change. But past installs let

Re: f20 - customize installed software

2013-12-19 Thread Robert Moskowitz
Is this for real? Did they really dumb it down like this? For Gnome, all I can do is select things like include admin tools. Nothing about what admin tools. I cannot remove Evolution and substitute Thunderbird. I could go on, but you get the point. They made it too dumb. Or I am missing

Re: f20 - enabling update repo

2013-12-19 Thread Robert Moskowitz
Not figured out yet... On 12/18/2013 06:18 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: I see in http://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/20/html/Installation_Guide/index.html sec 8.1.4 that I am suppose to add: repo=http://fqdn/os/i386/ to the install command (pressing tab at boot time). My notes for

Re: FedUp 18 - 19 Orphans

2013-12-19 Thread Kevin H. Hobbs
Michael wrote: You may also need to use yum or rpm to remove some of the duplicates by hand if package-cleanup can't work out how to solve all the dependencies. The only bits of perl that I could not clean up seem to be perl and perl libs. I did : # rpm -q --provides

Dumb gdm question

2013-12-19 Thread Mark Eggers
Fedora 20 (from fedup) Dell Inspiron N7110 Intel Integrated Graphics Controller With Fedora 19, the GDM login screen would blank after a certain amount of time. With Fedora 20, this no longer happens. I would like to restore Fedora 19's behaviour, so I can leave the laptop on and access it

Re: f20 strange local repo behaviour

2013-12-19 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 12/19/2013 04:55 AM, Frank Murphy wrote: On Wed, 18 Dec 2013 18:24:07 -0500 Robert Moskowitz r...@htt-consult.com wrote: when I edited the yum.repos.d files to point to my local repos, I got the following error doing a yum update: Error: Package: gnutls-utils-3.1.17-3.fc20.i686 (updates)

Disable PulseAudio on a NAS

2013-12-19 Thread John Obaterspok
Hi, I don't think I'll need to have PA enabled on my NAS. What is the easiest way to *disable* it? -- john -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct:

Re: Cron vs. Whenjobs vs. Goaljobs

2013-12-19 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 18Dec2013 00:43, Jonathan Ryshpan jonr...@pacbell.net wrote: * Frequently, I start the system, check my email and leave for breakfast; on these days, I'd like backup to start when I leave; I would invoke it by a shell script or whatever. * Other days, I stay on

Re: rsync not backing up all files

2013-12-19 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 18Dec2013 10:17, Robert Moskowitz r...@htt-consult.com wrote: Thanks for clarifying this for me. I suspected directories, but did not think I had THAT many! Obviously it was more than just directories. I will save this little find in my notes of things to check. Symlinks maybe. Or

Re: Disable PulseAudio on a NAS

2013-12-19 Thread Rick Stevens
On 12/19/2013 01:16 PM, John Obaterspok issued this missive: Hi, I don't think I'll need to have PA enabled on my NAS. What is the easiest way to *disable* it? Unless you log into a desktop environment, it shouldn't run. If you do log into a desktop, then go to the session startup config for

Re: f20 - gedit

2013-12-19 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 12/19/2013 08:35 AM, Alexander Volovics wrote: On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 08:05:49AM -0500, Robert Moskowitz wrote: Confirm used dconf-editor instead to set the overrides and now those entries appear within gedit. What did you change? I just went through all of dconf-editor listed items and

f20 - yum locally rebuilding deltas is so slow

2013-12-19 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On my Asus 900. I just started a yum update fire* libre* that took next ot no time to download from my local repo, but took over 10 min to build the local delta. Seems I am better of NOT having drpms available. hmmm... -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or

Re: f20 - yum locally rebuilding deltas is so slow

2013-12-19 Thread Frank Murphy
On Thu, 19 Dec 2013 17:30:08 -0500 Robert Moskowitz r...@htt-consult.com wrote: On my Asus 900. I just started a yum update fire* libre* that took next ot no time to download from my local repo, but took over 10 min to build the local delta. Seems I am better of NOT having drpms available.

Re: F20: system does not resume from hibernate

2013-12-19 Thread Chris Murphy
On Dec 19, 2013, at 11:16 AM, Ranjan Maitra maitra.mbox.igno...@inbox.com wrote: On Thu, 19 Dec 2013 10:00:16 -0800 Steven Rosenberg stevenhrosenb...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 9:32 AM, Tim ignored_mail...@yahoo.com.au wrote: I have to ask: We should *we* have to do that?

Re: f20 - yum locally rebuilding deltas is so slow

2013-12-19 Thread T.C. Hollingsworth
On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 3:30 PM, Robert Moskowitz r...@htt-consult.com wrote: I just started a yum update fire* libre* that took next ot no time to download from my local repo, but took over 10 min to build the local delta. Seems I am better of NOT having drpms available. Yeah, if you have a

Re: f20 - yum locally rebuilding deltas is so slow

2013-12-19 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 12/19/2013 05:36 PM, Frank Murphy wrote: On Thu, 19 Dec 2013 17:30:08 -0500 Robert Moskowitz r...@htt-consult.com wrote: On my Asus 900. I just started a yum update fire* libre* that took next ot no time to download from my local repo, but took over 10 min to build the local delta. Seems

Re: FedUp 18 - 19 Orphans

2013-12-19 Thread M A Young
On Thu, 19 Dec 2013, Kevin H. Hobbs wrote: # yum install perl-autodie ... Transaction check error: file /usr/share/man/man3/Fatal.3pm.gz from install of perl-autodie-2.16-1.fc19.noarch conflicts with file from package perl-4:5.16.3-245.fc18.x86_64 file /usr/share/man/man3/autodie.3pm.gz from

Re: f20 - yum locally rebuilding deltas is so slow

2013-12-19 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 12/19/2013 05:42 PM, T.C. Hollingsworth wrote: On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 3:30 PM, Robert Moskowitz r...@htt-consult.com wrote: I just started a yum update fire* libre* that took next ot no time to download from my local repo, but took over 10 min to build the local delta. Seems I am better of

Re: f20 - yum locally rebuilding deltas is so slow

2013-12-19 Thread Chris Murphy
On Dec 19, 2013, at 3:42 PM, T.C. Hollingsworth tchollingswo...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 3:30 PM, Robert Moskowitz r...@htt-consult.com wrote: I just started a yum update fire* libre* that took next ot no time to download from my local repo, but took over 10 min to build

f20 - gnome-tweak-tools?

2013-12-19 Thread Robert Moskowitz
So I have been reading up release notes on f20 which leads me to release notes of gnome 3.10 and http://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/20/html/Release_Notes/sect-Release_Notes-Changes_for_Desktop.html 3.1.4 discusses gnome-tweak-tool No gnome-tweak-tool installed. so yum provides

Acroread vs. ctrl/z

2013-12-19 Thread Jonathan Ryshpan
When Adobe acroread is run from a terminal, ctrl/z doesn't suspend it. ^Z appears on the terminal, which hangs until acroread terminates itself or ctrl/c is pressed on the terminal. However $ acroread starts acroread in the background and ctrl/z suspends all other programs, as expected. System

reading/copying a drive??

2013-12-19 Thread bruce
HI. Took a drive from an older FC13 system, put it in a usb drive bay to read from a centos 6.5 system centos sees the drive, but only reports the drive as 350 M free, of a 640G drive.. centos doesn't show all the folders/files on the drive. I'm only seeing the vm/image files... any pointers

Re: f20 - yum locally rebuilding deltas is so slow

2013-12-19 Thread T.C. Hollingsworth
On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at a4:01 PM, Chris Murphy li...@colorremedies.com wrote: Does anyone know exactly what's happening during the rebuild? I understand from light documentation how deltarpm works, what I'm not sure is if most of the time is spent reconstructing a virtual oldrpm from an

Re: f20 - gnome-tweak-tools?

2013-12-19 Thread Steven Stern
On 12/19/2013 05:05 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: So I have been reading up release notes on f20 which leads me to release notes of gnome 3.10 and http://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/20/html/Release_Notes/sect-Release_Notes-Changes_for_Desktop.html 3.1.4 discusses

Re: f20 - yum locally rebuilding deltas is so slow

2013-12-19 Thread Chris Murphy
On Dec 19, 2013, at 4:14 PM, T.C. Hollingsworth tchollingswo...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at a4:01 PM, Chris Murphy li...@colorremedies.com wrote: Does anyone know exactly what's happening during the rebuild? I understand from light documentation how deltarpm works, what I'm

F20 in VirtualBox VM

2013-12-19 Thread Greg Woods
I am running VirtualBox under F19, and I wanted to try F20 in a VM, but I can't get it to install. With both the Live ISO and the full DVD iso, if I point the virtual DVD drive at the ISO, it boots into the main syslinux/Anaconda menu, but as soon as I select Install Fedora, the screen goes black

Re: Acroread vs. ctrl/z

2013-12-19 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 11:07 PM, Jonathan Ryshpan jonr...@pacbell.netwrote: When Adobe acroread is run from a terminal, ctrl/z doesn't suspend it. ^Z appears on the terminal, which hangs until acroread terminates itself or ctrl/c is pressed on the terminal. However $ acroread starts

Re: F20 in VirtualBox VM

2013-12-19 Thread Chris Murphy
On Dec 19, 2013, at 4:50 PM, Greg Woods wo...@ucar.edu wrote: I am running VirtualBox under F19, and I wanted to try F20 in a VM, but I can't get it to install. With both the Live ISO and the full DVD iso, if I point the virtual DVD drive at the ISO, it boots into the main syslinux/Anaconda

Re: F20 in VirtualBox VM

2013-12-19 Thread Ed Greshko
On 12/20/13 07:50, Greg Woods wrote: I am running VirtualBox under F19, and I wanted to try F20 in a VM, but I can't get it to install. With both the Live ISO and the full DVD iso, if I point the virtual DVD drive at the ISO, it boots into the main syslinux/Anaconda menu, but as soon as I

Re: f20 - gedit

2013-12-19 Thread Germán A. Racca
On 12/19/2013 07:22 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 12/19/2013 08:35 AM, Alexander Volovics wrote: On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 08:05:49AM -0500, Robert Moskowitz wrote: Confirm used dconf-editor instead to set the overrides and now those entries appear within gedit. What did you change? I just

Re: Acroread vs. ctrl/z

2013-12-19 Thread Mihai T. Lazarescu
On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 03:07:49PM -0800, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: When Adobe acroread is run from a terminal, ctrl/z doesn't suspend it. ^Z appears on the terminal, which hangs until acroread terminates itself or ctrl/c is pressed on the terminal. However $ acroread starts acroread in the

Re: f20 - gnome-tweak-tools?

2013-12-19 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 12/19/2013 06:15 PM, Steven Stern wrote: On 12/19/2013 05:05 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: So I have been reading up release notes on f20 which leads me to release notes of gnome 3.10 and

Re: f20 - gedit

2013-12-19 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 12/19/2013 07:16 PM, Germán A. Racca wrote: On 12/19/2013 07:22 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 12/19/2013 08:35 AM, Alexander Volovics wrote: On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 08:05:49AM -0500, Robert Moskowitz wrote: Confirm used dconf-editor instead to set the overrides and now those entries

Re: f20 - gedit

2013-12-19 Thread Germán A. Racca
On 12/19/2013 09:32 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 12/19/2013 07:16 PM, Germán A. Racca wrote: On 12/19/2013 07:22 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 12/19/2013 08:35 AM, Alexander Volovics wrote: On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 08:05:49AM -0500, Robert Moskowitz wrote: Confirm used dconf-editor

Re: hacked - looking for doc/suggestions on hardening/securing systems from the start

2013-12-19 Thread Greg Woods
On Fri, 2013-12-20 at 03:46 +1030, Tim wrote: Allegedly, on or about 18 December 2013, Rick Stevens sent: 3. Make sure you enforce complex passwords and require them to be rotated at least every 90 days. I take issue with the continually changing passwords idea. I agree with you on this

Re: f20 - gedit

2013-12-19 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 12/19/2013 07:45 PM, Germán A. Racca wrote: On 12/19/2013 09:32 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 12/19/2013 07:16 PM, Germán A. Racca wrote: On 12/19/2013 07:22 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 12/19/2013 08:35 AM, Alexander Volovics wrote: On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 08:05:49AM -0500, Robert

Re: f20 - gedit

2013-12-19 Thread Dan Thurman
On 12/19/2013 05:05 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 12/19/2013 07:45 PM, Germán A. Racca wrote: On 12/19/2013 09:32 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 12/19/2013 07:16 PM, Germán A. Racca wrote: On 12/19/2013 07:22 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 12/19/2013 08:35 AM, Alexander Volovics wrote:

Re: f20 strange local repo behaviour

2013-12-19 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 12/19/2013 03:25 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 12/19/2013 04:55 AM, Frank Murphy wrote: On Wed, 18 Dec 2013 18:24:07 -0500 Robert Moskowitz r...@htt-consult.com wrote: when I edited the yum.repos.d files to point to my local repos, I got the following error doing a yum update: Error:

Re: f20 - gedit

2013-12-19 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 12/19/2013 08:13 PM, Dan Thurman wrote: On 12/19/2013 05:05 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 12/19/2013 07:45 PM, Germán A. Racca wrote: On 12/19/2013 09:32 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 12/19/2013 07:16 PM, Germán A. Racca wrote: On 12/19/2013 07:22 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On

Re: F20 in VirtualBox VM

2013-12-19 Thread Greg Woods
On Fri, 2013-12-20 at 08:04 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: Yes. Been installing and testing F20 on a VM for a while now. But make sure you're running VirtualBox 4.3.6 Thanks for the tip, I was on 4.3.4 . So I upgraded to 4.3.6, installed the extension pack, and... I still get a black screen

Re: F20 in VirtualBox VM

2013-12-19 Thread Greg Woods
On Thu, 2013-12-19 at 18:26 -0700, Greg Woods wrote: On Fri, 2013-12-20 at 08:04 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: Yes. Been installing and testing F20 on a VM for a while now. But make sure you're running VirtualBox 4.3.6 Thanks for the tip, I was on 4.3.4 . So I upgraded to 4.3.6,

Re: F20 in VirtualBox VM

2013-12-19 Thread Ed Greshko
On 12/20/13 09:26, Greg Woods wrote: On Fri, 2013-12-20 at 08:04 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: Yes. Been installing and testing F20 on a VM for a while now. But make sure you're running VirtualBox 4.3.6 Thanks for the tip, I was on 4.3.4 . So I upgraded to 4.3.6, installed the extension pack,

f20 - Anyone else having problems installing x64

2013-12-19 Thread Gregory P. Ennis
I have a Gateway NV53A laptop that has Centos 6.5 installed and performing without a problem. I tried to install the x64 f20 on this machine, but have not been able to get the discs to install. I checksumed the disc and it passed I tested the disc with the boot process, and could not figure

Re: f20 - gedit

2013-12-19 Thread ergodic
Anyway, it is safer to use something like VIM to edit files as root, I only tested gedit because I saw your email, but as root I use only VIM to edit files :) Why? - Original Message - On 12/19/2013 10:05 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 12/19/2013 07:45 PM, Germán A. Racca

Re: f20 - gnome-tweak-tools?

2013-12-19 Thread Germán A. Racca
On 12/19/2013 09:26 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 12/19/2013 06:15 PM, Steven Stern wrote: On 12/19/2013 05:05 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: So I have been reading up release notes on f20 which leads me to release notes of gnome 3.10 and

Re: f20 - yum locally rebuilding deltas is so slow

2013-12-19 Thread Jonathan Dieter
On Thu, 2013-12-19 at 16:43 -0700, Chris Murphy wrote: On Dec 19, 2013, at 4:14 PM, T.C. Hollingsworth tchollingswo...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at a4:01 PM, Chris Murphy li...@colorremedies.com wrote: Does anyone know exactly what's happening during the rebuild? I

Re: F-20: no shutdown/reboot due to unstopped jobs

2013-12-19 Thread antonio montagnani
antonio ha scritto / said the followingil giorno/on 18/12/2013 20:53: Chris Murphy ha scritto / said the followingil giorno/on 18/12/2013 20:48: On Dec 18, 2013, at 5:11 AM, antonio montagnani antonio.montagn...@alice.it wrote: when I want to poweroff/reboot the machine I get this