[389-users] ldap authenticaion is not getting correct information (SSL/TLS) (all files, logs included- please give me light on this)
Hi, I need some help urgnelty.. as no idea why its acting funy. as far I belive, I have setup ldap server properly in test environment, but actiting wired.. no idea why ... example [root@test ~]# id tuser id: tuser: No such user bellow command shows the correct info : [root@test ~]# /usr/bin/ldapsearch -xZZ -D 'cn=Directory Manager' -w 'x' -b 'dc=fosiul,dc=lan' # extended LDIF # # LDAPv3 # base dc=fosiul,dc=lan with scope subtree # filter: (objectclass=*) # requesting: ALL # # fosiul.lan dn: dc=fosiul,dc=lan dc: fosiul objectClass: domain objectClass: top # uk, fosiul.lan dn: l=uk,dc=fosiul,dc=lan l: uk objectClass: locality objectClass: top # groups, uk, fosiul.lan dn: ou=groups,l=uk,dc=fosiul,dc=lan ou: groups objectClass: organizationalUnit objectClass: top # users, uk, fosiul.lan dn: ou=users,l=uk,dc=fosiul,dc=lan ou: users objectClass: organizationalUnit objectClass: top # IT, groups, uk, fosiul.lan dn: cn=IT,ou=groups,l=uk,dc=fosiul,dc=lan gidNumber: 3001 objectClass: posixGroup objectClass: top uniqueMember: uid=fosiula,ou=users,l=uk,dc=fosiul,dc=lan cn: IT # tuser, users, uk, fosiul.lan dn: uid=tuser,ou=users,l=uk,dc=fosiul,dc=lan givenName: Tuser sn: User uidNumber: 2001 gidNumber: 3001 objectClass: top objectClass: person objectClass: organizationalPerson objectClass: inetorgperson objectClass: posixAccount cn: test User homeDirectory: /home/tuser userPassword:: e1NTSEF9cGlZclc1NjBaOXdtSGxkdVVKcGJ3TUhHZjN4eG55a2lUQUxhSVE9PQ= = uid: tuser # search result search: 3 result: 0 Success # numResponses: 7 # numEntries: 6 My : /etc/ldap.conf [root@test ~]# cat /etc/ldap.conf # @(#)$Id: ldap.conf,v 1.38 2006/05/15 08:13:31 lukeh Exp $ # # This config is managed by puppet, all changes will be reverted base dc=fosiul,dc=lan bind_policy soft # Search timelimit #timelimit 30 timelimit 1 # Bind/connect timelimit #bind_timelimit 30 bind_timelimit 1 #idle_timelimit 3600 idle_timelimit 1 bind_timeout 1 nss_initgroups_ignoreusers root,ldap,named,avahi,haldaemon uri ldap://puppet-1.fosiul.lan ssl start_tls tls_cacertfile /etc/openldap/cacerts/CRT.crt pam_password md5 pam_groupdn cn=IT,ou=groups,l=uk,dc=fosiul,dc=lan pam_member_attribute uniqueMember tls_cacertdir /etc/openldap/cacerts my /etc/openldap/ldap.conf : # # LDAP Defaults # # See ldap.conf(5) for details # This file should be world readable but not world writable. #BASE dc=example, dc=com #URIldap://ldap.example.com ldap://ldap-master.example.com:666 #SIZELIMIT 12 #TIMELIMIT 15 #DEREF never URI ldap://puppet-1.fosiul.lan/ BASE dc=fosiul,dc=lan TLS_CACERTDIR /etc/openldap/cacerts tls_cacertfile /etc/openldap/cacerts/CRT.crt The Log From ldap server for bellow command - [root@test ~]# id tuser id: tuser: No such user [root@test ~]# [29/Dec/2013:14:49:14 +] conn=111 op=3 UNBIND [29/Dec/2013:14:49:14 +] conn=111 op=3 fd=76 closed - U1 [29/Dec/2013:14:49:14 +] conn=115 fd=76 slot=76 connection from 192.168.0.40 to 192.168.0.35 [29/Dec/2013:14:49:14 +] conn=115 op=0 EXT oid=1.3.6.1.4.1.1466.20037 name=startTLS [29/Dec/2013:14:49:14 +] conn=115 op=0 RESULT err=0 tag=120 nentries=0 etime=0 [29/Dec/2013:14:49:14 +] conn=115 SSL 256-bit AES [29/Dec/2013:14:49:14 +] conn=115 op=1 BIND dn= method=128 version=3 [29/Dec/2013:14:49:14 +] conn=115 op=1 RESULT err=0 tag=97 nentries=0 etime=0 dn= [29/Dec/2013:14:49:14 +] conn=115 op=2 SRCH base=dc=fosiul,dc=lan scope=2 filter=((objectClass=posixAccount)(uid=tuser)) attrs=uid userPassword uidNumber gidNumber cn homeDirectory loginShell gecos description objectClass [29/Dec/2013:14:49:14 +] conn=115 op=2 RESULT err=0 tag=101 nentries=0 etime=0 -- 389 users mailing list 389-users@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/389-users
Re: [389-users] ldap authenticaion is not getting correct information (SSL/TLS) (all files, logs included- please give me light on this)
-D 'cn=Directory Manager' It looks like your ldapsearch is using Directory Manager (the 389 equivalent to the root user). However I do not see where you have specified a bind DN in an ldap.conf file so possibly PAM is binding anonymously and an ACL is prohibiting the search? If this is a testing system you could specify Directory Manager as your bind DN for PAM just to test this assumption. Of course for production you'd want some non-DM DN to bind with. On Sun, Dec 29, 2013 at 02:54:13PM +, fosiul alam wrote: Hi, I need some help urgnelty.. as no idea why its acting funy. as far I belive, I have setup ldap server properly in test environment, but actiting wired.. no idea why ... example [root@test ~]# id tuser id: tuser: No such user bellow command shows the correct info : [root@test ~]# /usr/bin/ldapsearch -xZZ -D 'cn=Directory Manager' -w 'x' -b 'dc=fosiul,dc=lan' # extended LDIF # # LDAPv3 # base dc=fosiul,dc=lan with scope subtree # filter: (objectclass=*) # requesting: ALL # # fosiul.lan dn: dc=fosiul,dc=lan dc: fosiul objectClass: domain objectClass: top # uk, fosiul.lan dn: l=uk,dc=fosiul,dc=lan l: uk objectClass: locality objectClass: top # groups, uk, fosiul.lan dn: ou=groups,l=uk,dc=fosiul,dc=lan ou: groups objectClass: organizationalUnit objectClass: top # users, uk, fosiul.lan dn: ou=users,l=uk,dc=fosiul,dc=lan ou: users objectClass: organizationalUnit objectClass: top # IT, groups, uk, fosiul.lan dn: cn=IT,ou=groups,l=uk,dc=fosiul,dc=lan gidNumber: 3001 objectClass: posixGroup objectClass: top uniqueMember: uid=fosiula,ou=users,l=uk,dc=fosiul,dc=lan cn: IT # tuser, users, uk, fosiul.lan dn: uid=tuser,ou=users,l=uk,dc=fosiul,dc=lan givenName: Tuser sn: User uidNumber: 2001 gidNumber: 3001 objectClass: top objectClass: person objectClass: organizationalPerson objectClass: inetorgperson objectClass: posixAccount cn: test User homeDirectory: /home/tuser userPassword:: e1NTSEF9cGlZclc1NjBaOXdtSGxkdVVKcGJ3TUhHZjN4eG55a2lUQUxhSVE9PQ= = uid: tuser # search result search: 3 result: 0 Success # numResponses: 7 # numEntries: 6 My : /etc/ldap.conf [root@test ~]# cat /etc/ldap.conf # @(#)$Id: ldap.conf,v 1.38 2006/05/15 08:13:31 lukeh Exp $ # # This config is managed by puppet, all changes will be reverted base dc=fosiul,dc=lan bind_policy soft # Search timelimit #timelimit 30 timelimit 1 # Bind/connect timelimit #bind_timelimit 30 bind_timelimit 1 #idle_timelimit 3600 idle_timelimit 1 bind_timeout 1 nss_initgroups_ignoreusers root,ldap,named,avahi,haldaemon uri ldap://puppet-1.fosiul.lan ssl start_tls tls_cacertfile /etc/openldap/cacerts/CRT.crt pam_password md5 pam_groupdn cn=IT,ou=groups,l=uk,dc=fosiul,dc=lan pam_member_attribute uniqueMember tls_cacertdir /etc/openldap/cacerts my /etc/openldap/ldap.conf : # # LDAP Defaults # # See ldap.conf(5) for details # This file should be world readable but not world writable. #BASE dc=example, dc=com #URIldap://ldap.example.com ldap://ldap-master.example.com:666 #SIZELIMIT 12 #TIMELIMIT 15 #DEREF never URI ldap://puppet-1.fosiul.lan/ BASE dc=fosiul,dc=lan TLS_CACERTDIR /etc/openldap/cacerts tls_cacertfile /etc/openldap/cacerts/CRT.crt The Log From ldap server for bellow command - [root@test ~]# id tuser id: tuser: No such user [root@test ~]# [29/Dec/2013:14:49:14 +] conn=111 op=3 UNBIND [29/Dec/2013:14:49:14 +] conn=111 op=3 fd=76 closed - U1 [29/Dec/2013:14:49:14 +] conn=115 fd=76 slot=76 connection from 192.168.0.40 to 192.168.0.35 [29/Dec/2013:14:49:14 +] conn=115 op=0 EXT oid=1.3.6.1.4.1.1466.20037 name=startTLS [29/Dec/2013:14:49:14 +] conn=115 op=0 RESULT err=0 tag=120 nentries=0 etime=0 [29/Dec/2013:14:49:14 +] conn=115 SSL 256-bit AES [29/Dec/2013:14:49:14 +] conn=115 op=1 BIND dn= method=128 version=3 [29/Dec/2013:14:49:14 +] conn=115 op=1 RESULT err=0 tag=97 nentries=0 etime=0 dn= [29/Dec/2013:14:49:14 +] conn=115 op=2 SRCH base=dc=fosiul,dc=lan scope=2 filter=((objectClass=posixAccount)(uid=tuser)) attrs=uid userPassword uidNumber gidNumber cn homeDirectory loginShell gecos description objectClass [29/Dec/2013:14:49:14 +] conn=115 op=2 RESULT err=0 tag=101 nentries=0 etime=0 -- 389 users mailing list 389-users@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/389-users -- 389 users mailing list 389-users@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/389-users
Re: [389-users] ldap authenticaion is not getting correct information (SSL/TLS) (all files, logs included- please give me light on this)
Hi Thanks for the quick Reply. I was thinking that same that some where its missing the Bind dn and I can conferm that, its working with definning binddn and bindpw in ldap.conf but , I confiered this before and I never had to define binddn and bindpw in any where in ldap.conf and as you said that for production its not appropriate. which mean, something i have missed while configuring direcotory server, I guess, I will have to tell Directory server to bind annonomouse search with cn=Directory Manager or something like this. but currnelty its not cliking on my head. Any further help will really appreciate. Kind Regards -- 389 users mailing list 389-users@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/389-users
Re: [389-users] ldap authenticaion is not getting correct information (SSL/TLS) (all files, logs included- please give me light on this)
Hi Thanks for the quick Reply. I was thinking that same that some where its missing the Bind dn and I can conferm that, its working with definning binddn and bindpw in ldap.conf but , I confiered this before and I never had to define binddn and bindpw in any where in ldap.conf and as you said that for production its not appropriate. which mean, something i have missed while configuring direcotory server, I guess, I will have to tell Directory server to bind annonomouse search with cn=Directory Manager or something like this. but currnelty its not cliking on my head. Any further help will really appreciate. Kind Regards -- 389 users mailing list 389-users@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/389-users
Re: [389-users] ldap authenticaion is not getting correct information (SSL/TLS) (all files, logs included- please give me light on this)
On Sun, Dec 29, 2013 at 05:33:09PM +, fosiul alam wrote: Hi Thanks for the quick Reply. I was thinking that same that some where its missing the Bind dn and I can conferm that, its working with definning binddn and bindpw in ldap.conf but , I confiered this before and I never had to define binddn and bindpw in any where in ldap.conf and as you said that for production its not appropriate. Sounds like your previous setup either permitted anonymous binds to search for this information (had the ACLs permitting this) or had people bind as themselves and permitted them (via ACLs) to search for their own entries. Unfortunately it has been a bit of a while since I set this up with 389 and I don't recall specifically how. But in your place I would see if I could get PAM/LDAP to bind with authenticating users' credentials for logins, and bind anonymously for generic stuff like group info. which mean, something i have missed while configuring direcotory server, I guess, I will have to tell Directory server to bind annonomouse search with cn=Directory Manager or something like this. but currnelty its not cliking on my head. Any further help will really appreciate. Kind Regards -- 389 users mailing list 389-users@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/389-users -- 389 users mailing list 389-users@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/389-users
gnome, gnome-terminal desktop icon oddity
The thread with the subject of gnome-terminal in F20 defaults to / for the initial directory prompted me to do some testing and I've found an oddity. The desktop file is as follows... [egreshko@f20f ]$ cat Desktop/gnome-terminal.desktop [Desktop Entry] Comment[en_US]= Comment= Exec=/usr/bin/gnome-terminal --working-directory=$HOME/Desktop GenericName[en_US]=Gnome Terminal GenericName=Gnome Terminal Icon=utilities-terminal MimeType= Name[en_US]=gnome-terminal Name=gnome-terminal StartupNotify=true Terminal=false TerminalOptions= Type=Application X-DBUS-ServiceName= X-DBUS-StartupType= X-KDE-SubstituteUID=false X-KDE-Username= If I click on the desktop icon in KDE the --working-directory option is honored. However, if I double click on the desktop icon in GNOME that parameter has no effect unless I replace $HOME with the actual path name. So, for some reason GNOME is not expanding the $HOME variable. Also, if I execute /usr/bin/gnome-terminal --working-directory=$HOME/Desktop from within an existing terminal session $HOME will be expanded. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1047116 Ed -- Getting tired of non-Fedora discussions and self-serving posts -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Reverse E-Mail Blockage.....
On 29.12.2013, Tim wrote: I've always considered having to check your spam for false positives to make having anti-spam filtering a waste of time. It depends. I've been receiving about 30 spam emails daily, on average. A quick look into my spam-folder is enough to check if any serious email accidently got classified as spam. I'm using a combination of procmail and CRM-114, by the way.. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: fedup leaves half done 18 19
On 12/29/2013 04:36 AM, Joe Zeff wrote: It means that the release version is, or should be, 19. However, I'd suggest that you use package-cleanup --dupes and check to see if you have duplicate versions of fedora-release-noarch. You can use 'package-cleanup --cleandupes' to remove any old packages still there. After that, use 'yum distro-sync' to get everything as close to a new f19 install as possible, and also install the missing f19 kernel. You should also check for *.rpmnew and *.rpmsave files (new or old configuration files saved), and update the configuration files that need updates (check with diff what the differences are, if something significant, update the configuration file) find / -xdev -name '*.rpmnew' -o -name '*.rpmsave' Lars -- Lars E. Pettersson l...@homer.se http://www.sm6rpz.se/ -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: System mail (Fedora 20)
On Thu, Dec 26, 2013 at 12:52:12PM +0100, Suvayu Ali wrote: On Thu, Dec 26, 2013 at 08:49:23AM +, Frank Murphy wrote: On Wed, 25 Dec 2013 14:17:17 +0100 Suvayu Ali fatkasuvayu+li...@gmail.com wrote: I know I can always look in the logs, but I would probably miss something if I have to do this manually for every daemon that is running. It is much simpler to monitor this through system mail. Hence, I would like to know what happens if there is no MTA installed; do I still get system mail notifying me of cron jobs, denied hosts, etc? MTA is not necessary on a single box. Can your mua read system mail? in claws-mail I added an account for system-mail. so cron, logwatch journalctl etc. come to my inbox\subfolders. You should still have the old mail (mailx) installed rpm -q mailx I use mutt, so don't have problems reading system mail. Thank you for confirming, I have removed sendmail now. This doesn't work. I have a nightly cron job (run as root) I'm trying to debug so I have it output debug information always. I also have an alias for root mail to me (local user) in /etc/aliases. With sendmail, this information was mailed to me. Logs tell me last 3 days the job ran, however I did not receive any of the mails. I tested interactively by trying to send mail to root using the mail program; it fails like this: # mail root Subject: Testing system mail 2 Hi, Can you see me? Cheers, EOT /usr/sbin/sendmail: No such file or directory /root/dead.letter 13/241 . . . message not sent. After I install sendmail again and start the daemon with systemctl, the above command succeeds and I (regular local user) get the test mail. -- Suvayu Open source is the future. It sets us free. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Auto suspend/spin-down idle disk
Hello, I have a SSD disk as system disk and a: - HDD as backup drive that is used a couple of times each week - HDD as media disk that is perhaps used a couple of times each day I've tried to set the spindown to 1 hour of being idle via gnome-disks. Problem is that it never spins down. - I've verified that it spins down via hdparm -y /dev/sda - I've also set the smartd check interval to 5h (smartd_opts=--quit never --interval=18000) in /etc/sysconfig/smartmontools - Disks are mounted with type ext4 (rw,relatime,seclabel,data=ordered) Any hints on how I get the disks to spin down? -- john -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: System mail (Fedora 20)
On Sun, 29 Dec 2013 13:02:06 +0100 Suvayu Ali fatkasuvayu+li...@gmail.com wrote: rpm -q exim sendmail postfix mailx package exim is not installed package sendmail is not installed package postfix is not installed mailx-12.5-10.fc20.x86_64 As I stated mailx allows me to read system-mail in claws-mail. From: Anacron root@ To: root Subject: Anacron job 'cron.daily' on frank01.* -- Regards, Frank www.frankly3d.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: System mail (Fedora 20)
On Sun, 29 Dec 2013 12:24:14 + Frank Murphy frankl...@gmail.com wrote: Forgot a link: http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/pseries/v5r3/index.jsp?topic=/com.ibm.aix.files/doc/aixfiles/mailrc.htm -- Regards, Frank www.frankly3d.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: gnome, gnome-terminal desktop icon oddity
On 12/29/2013 03:00 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: The thread with the subject of gnome-terminal in F20 defaults to / for the initial directory prompted me to do some testing and I've found an oddity. The desktop file is as follows... [egreshko@f20f ]$ cat Desktop/gnome-terminal.desktop But for me: [rgm@lx120e ~]$ cat Desktop/gnome-terminal.desktop cat: Desktop/gnome-terminal.desktop: No such file or directory [rgm@lx120e ~]$ I had just opened this terminal window, and it started right at /home/rgm/ [Desktop Entry] Comment[en_US]= Comment= Exec=/usr/bin/gnome-terminal --working-directory=$HOME/Desktop GenericName[en_US]=Gnome Terminal GenericName=Gnome Terminal Icon=utilities-terminal MimeType= Name[en_US]=gnome-terminal Name=gnome-terminal StartupNotify=true Terminal=false TerminalOptions= Type=Application X-DBUS-ServiceName= X-DBUS-StartupType= X-KDE-SubstituteUID=false X-KDE-Username= If I click on the desktop icon in KDE the --working-directory option is honored. However, if I double click on the desktop icon in GNOME that parameter has no effect unless I replace $HOME with the actual path name. So, for some reason GNOME is not expanding the $HOME variable. Also, if I execute /usr/bin/gnome-terminal --working-directory=$HOME/Desktop from within an existing terminal session $HOME will be expanded. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1047116 Ed -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: System mail (Fedora 20)
On 12/29/2013 01:24 PM, Frank Murphy wrote: As I stated mailx allows me to read system-mail in claws-mail. Have you changed anything in the mailx setup? /etc/mail.rc ? As far as I can tell I can only get system mail when using an MTA, mailx without any changes seem to do nothing here. Lars -- Lars E. Pettersson l...@homer.se http://www.sm6rpz.se/ -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: System mail (Fedora 20)
On Sun, 29 Dec 2013 14:30:29 +0100 Lars E. Pettersson l...@homer.se wrote: On 12/29/2013 01:24 PM, Frank Murphy wrote: As I stated mailx allows me to read system-mail in claws-mail. Have you changed anything in the mailx setup? /etc/mail.rc ? As far as I can tell I can only get system mail when using an MTA, mailx without any changes seem to do nothing here. Lars The only thing I've changed is set nohold -- Regards, Frank www.frankly3d.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
selinux=0
Hello, After cloning a distribution fedora 19, I have to set selinux=0 to be able to boot. How can I do to avoid this option? I tried: fixfiles relabel system-config-selinux But I never get a relabelling! What should I do? Thank. === Patrick DUPRÉ | | email: pdu...@gmx.com Laboratoire de Physico-Chimie de l'Atmosphère | | Université du Littoral-Côte d'Opale | | Tel. (33)-(0)3 28 23 76 12 | | Fax: 03 28 65 82 44 189A, avenue Maurice Schumann | | 59140 Dunkerque, France === -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: gnome, gnome-terminal desktop icon oddity
On Sun, 29 Dec 2013 07:55:12 -0500, Robert Moskowitz wrote: But for me: [rgm@lx120e ~]$ cat Desktop/gnome-terminal.desktop cat: Desktop/gnome-terminal.desktop: No such file or directory You need to create it (copy it there) first: cp /usr/share/applications/gnome-terminal.desktop ~/Desktop Then install and run gnome-tweak-tool package: yum -y install gnome-tweak-tool When using GNOME Shell, run gnome-tweak-tool, enable Icons on Desktop. Double-click the gnome-terminal icon on desktop to start a terminal. After a reboot (at least here), the terminal starts in / dir instead of $HOME. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: selinux=0
On Sun, 29 Dec 2013 14:40:26 +0100, Patrick Dupre wrote: Hello, After cloning a distribution fedora 19, I have to set selinux=0 to be able to boot. How can I do to avoid this option? I tried: fixfiles relabel system-config-selinux But I never get a relabelling! What should I do? Have you tried booting with enforcing=0 instead of selinux=0 yet? If you disable SELinux completing, you cannot hope that anything will work related to file labelling. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: F20 Installs Fail From Every Angle (Michael Schwendt)
On Sat, 28 Dec 2013 23:56:30 +0100, Michael Schwendt wrote: What dependency error did it report? And how did you query the installed packages as well as the remote repos for what would be available_after_ the upgrade? Many users still misread such error messages and don't manage to work around them as a result. Often, the installed packages are okay, but during they upgrade they would get replaced and break dependencies. The exact error message was WARNING: problems were encountered during transaction test: broken dependencies kmod-VirtualBox-3.12.5-200.fc19.x86_64-4.3.6-1.fc19.1.x86_64 requires kernel-3.12.5-200.fc19.x86_64 Continue with upgrade at your own risk. In response I removed kmod-VirtualBox, akmod-VirtualBox, and VirtualBox. Then I did a fedup --clean and reattempted fedup --network 20. This went well until the reboot. Following the reboot I select the Fedup option, but nothing really happened. I ended up back in my Fedora 19 system while running the new Fedora 20 kernel. As an update on the other machine where I was having problems with the net install. I checked for any meaningful logs but found that none exist. The /var/log directory hasn't even been created. So, then I tried to run a grub2-mkconfig, grub2-install, dracut series to potentially fix the problem. The file sizes did change a bit, but the end result was the same. Brian -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: F20 Installs Fail From Every Angle (Michael Schwendt)
Hi On Sun, Dec 29, 2013 at 9:51 AM, Brian Hanks wrote: In response I removed kmod-VirtualBox, akmod-VirtualBox, and VirtualBox. Then I did a fedup --clean and reattempted fedup --network 20. This went well until the reboot. Following the reboot I select the Fedup option, but nothing really happened. I ended up back in my Fedora 19 system while running the new Fedora 20 kernel. As an update on the other machine where I was having problems with the net install. I checked for any meaningful logs but found that none exist. The /var/log directory hasn't even been created. So, then I tried to run a grub2-mkconfig, grub2-install, dracut series to potentially fix the problem. The file sizes did change a bit, but the end result was the same. Which version of fedup? Make sure you have the latest https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedUp#Why_does_my_upgrade_to_Fedora_20_fail_.28immediately_reboot_to_my_old_Fedora.29.3F Rahul -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Auto suspend/spin-down idle disk
Allegedly, on or about 29 December 2013, John Obaterspok sent: Any hints on how I get the disks to spin down? Do a manual unmount, and leave it unmounted, perhaps? -- [tim@localhost ~]$ uname -rsvp Linux 3.9.10-100.fc17.x86_64 #1 SMP Sun Jul 14 01:31:27 UTC 2013 x86_64 All mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted, there is no point trying to privately email me, I will only read messages posted to the public lists. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: System mail (Fedora 20)
-- Mark C. Allman, PMP, CSM Founder, See How You Ski, www.seehowyouski.com Sr. Project Manager, Allman Professional Consulting, Inc., www.allmanpc.com 617-947-4263, Twitter: @allmanpc Follow allmanpc on Twitter View Mark Allman, PMP, CSM's profile on LinkedIn On Sun, 2013-12-29 at 13:39 +, Frank Murphy wrote: On Sun, 29 Dec 2013 14:30:29 +0100 Lars E. Pettersson l...@homer.se wrote: On 12/29/2013 01:24 PM, Frank Murphy wrote: As I stated mailx allows me to read system-mail in claws-mail. Have you changed anything in the mailx setup? /etc/mail.rc ? As far as I can tell I can only get system mail when using an MTA, mailx without any changes seem to do nothing here. Lars The only thing I've changed is set nohold -- Regards, Frank www.frankly3d.com In the file /usr/share/logwatch/default.conf/logwatch.conf on a fresh install of Fedora 20 I see this line: mailer = /usr/sbin/sendmail -t Just curious: did everyone go into /etc/logwatch/conf/logwatch.conf and override this and what did you set it to? Although I don't recall anything in the release notes about logwatch being replaced by something maybe there's a new package that replaced it (and therefore one less need for sendmail). -- Mark C. Allman, PMP, CSM Founder, See How You Ski, www.seehowyouski.com Sr. Project Manager, Allman Professional Consulting, Inc., www.allmanpc.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Reverse E-Mail Blockage.....
Tim: I've always considered having to check your spam for false positives to make having anti-spam filtering a waste of time. Heinz Diehl: It depends. I've been receiving about 30 spam emails daily, on average. A quick look into my spam-folder is enough to check if any serious email accidently got classified as spam. I'm using a combination of procmail and CRM-114, by the way.. But you don't trust it enough, not to check... If I had to check up on it, I don't consider it trustworthy. And, probably more to the point, it's an extreme annoyance when you email someone, and their crappy anti-spam software falsely classifies your email as spam. Eventually you give up trying to get a reply from them, and have to phone them for a response. -- [tim@localhost ~]$ uname -rsvp Linux 3.9.10-100.fc17.x86_64 #1 SMP Sun Jul 14 01:31:27 UTC 2013 x86_64 All mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted, there is no point trying to privately email me, I will only read messages posted to the public lists. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: selinux=0
Thank, It works. On Sun, 29 Dec 2013 14:40:26 +0100, Patrick Dupre wrote: Hello, After cloning a distribution fedora 19, I have to set selinux=0 to be able to boot. How can I do to avoid this option? I tried: fixfiles relabel system-config-selinux But I never get a relabelling! What should I do? Have you tried booting with enforcing=0 instead of selinux=0 yet? If you disable SELinux completing, you cannot hope that anything will work related to file labelling. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org === Patrick DUPRÉ | | email: pdu...@gmx.com Laboratoire de Physico-Chimie de l'Atmosphère | | Université du Littoral-Côte d'Opale | | Tel. (33)-(0)3 28 23 76 12 | | Fax: 03 28 65 82 44 189A, avenue Maurice Schumann | | 59140 Dunkerque, France === -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: gnome-terminal in F20 defaults to / for the initial directory
Michael Schwendt writes: It may not even be a bug in Nautilus either, since other components take care of stopping/starting it (e.g. gnome-tweak-tool and gnome-shell). What happens if you kill all nautilus processes, then start a terminal (e.g. gnome-terminal) in a way that it starts in $HOME, then run nautilus --no-default-window manually? Does it also cwd to /? Or does it stay in $HOME? (you can also run it without options just in case) It stays in $HOME, and gnome-terminal will come up in $HOME. So, this is really an issue with nautilus getting started in /. nautilus's parent process is init, no finger pointing as to what normally starts it, but both the gnome-shell's and gnome-session's processes' current directories are $HOME. lrwxrwxrwx. 1 mrsam mrsam 0 Dec 29 10:15 /proc/32380/cwd → /home/mrsam lrwxrwxrwx. 1 mrsam mrsam 0 Dec 29 10:10 /proc/32380/exe → /usr/bin/gnome- session lrwxrwxrwx. 1 mrsam mrsam 0 Dec 29 10:23 /proc/32601/cwd → /home/mrsam lrwxrwxrwx. 1 mrsam mrsam 0 Dec 29 10:10 /proc/32601/exe → /usr/bin/gnome- shell I don't have anything custom in /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc.d, just the stock stuff that's installed by a couple of packages. Xclients.d is empty. The only thing that was odd was that nautilus's full command line is /usr/bin/nautilus --no-default-window, however gnome-session-properties had an entry for nautilus -n only. Something else must really be kicking off nautilus, and the gnome-session entry must've been inherited from earlier fedora releases (so it wouldn't be there for new user accounts) when nautilus was getting started from gnome-session, and now the second process is a no-op. Verified this from the command line, removed the entry for Nautilus from gnome-session-properties, logged out and back in, nautilus still gets started from /. So, I'm guessing that gnome-shell currently starts nautilus. But I don't see anything that the gnome-shell rpm installs in /etc pgpmJ5ER0ofxF.pgp Description: PGP signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
fedora update
Hello, I burnt a DVD fedora 20 to update my distro. However, it fails the test at 12.6%. It there a risk to make an update using fedup? I always have the option to download a package which may be damaged. Thank. === Patrick DUPRÉ | | email: pdu...@gmx.com Laboratoire de Physico-Chimie de l'Atmosphère | | Université du Littoral-Côte d'Opale | | Tel. (33)-(0)3 28 23 76 12 | | Fax: 03 28 65 82 44 189A, avenue Maurice Schumann | | 59140 Dunkerque, France === -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: fedora update
Hi On Sun, Dec 29, 2013 at 10:36 AM, Patrick Dupre pdu...@gmx.com wrote: Hello, I burnt a DVD fedora 20 to update my distro. However, it fails the test at 12.6%. It there a risk to make an update using fedup? I always have the option to download a package which may be damaged. If you are upgrading via fedup, then the network option is the recommended one and you don't have to use any media at all. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedUp Rahul -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Reverse E-Mail Blockage.....
On 12/29/2013 3:29 AM, Heinz Diehl wrote: On 29.12.2013, Tim wrote: I've always considered having to check your spam for false positives to make having anti-spam filtering a waste of time. It depends. I've been receiving about 30 spam emails daily, on average. A quick look into my spam-folder is enough to check if any serious email accidently got classified as spam. I'm using a combination of procmail and CRM-114, by the way.. Wow! 30 per day? Just wow! You must have a spam magnet or something. :-) I use seven different accounts regularly and I don't get 20 in a month. -- David -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: fedora update
- Original Message - From: Rahul Sundaram Sent: 12/29/13 04:39 PM To: Community support for Fedora users Subject: Re: fedora update Hi On Sun, Dec 29, 2013 at 10:36 AM, Patrick Dupre pdu...@gmx.com wrote: Hello, I burnt a DVD fedora 20 to update my distro. However, it fails the test at 12.6%. It there a risk to make an update using fedup? I always have the option to download a package which may be damaged. If you are upgrading via fedup, then the network option is the recommended one and you don't have to use any media at all. Of course. However, I only have a 3G+ connection!!! https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedUp Rahul === Patrick DUPRÉ | | email: pdu...@gmx.com Laboratoire de Physico-Chimie de l'Atmosphère | | Université du Littoral-Côte d'Opale | | Tel. (33)-(0)3 28 23 76 12 | | Fax: 03 28 65 82 44 189A, avenue Maurice Schumann | | 59140 Dunkerque, France === -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: F20 Installs Fail From Every Angle
On Sun, Dec 29, 2013 at 9:58 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: Which version of fedup? Make sure you have the latest https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedUp#Why_does_my_upgrade_to_Fedora_20_fail_.28immediately_reboot_to_my_old_Fedora.29.3F I read this before I made my first attempt and I validated that I am using latest version of fedup (fedup-0.8.0-3.fc19.noarch). Brian -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: fedora update
Hi On Sun, Dec 29, 2013 at 10:50 AM, Patrick Dupre wrote: Of course. However, I only have a 3G+ connection!!! I guess you can try fedup with the media option. It won't install any broken packages. You should be able to download specific packages off the network if necessary. I would recommend running yum distro-sync right after the upgrade however. Rahul -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: gnome, gnome-terminal desktop icon oddity
On 12/29/2013 08:43 AM, Michael Schwendt wrote: On Sun, 29 Dec 2013 07:55:12 -0500, Robert Moskowitz wrote: But for me: [rgm@lx120e ~]$ cat Desktop/gnome-terminal.desktop cat: Desktop/gnome-terminal.desktop: No such file or directory You need to create it (copy it there) first: cp /usr/share/applications/gnome-terminal.desktop ~/Desktop Then install and run gnome-tweak-tool package: yum -y install gnome-tweak-tool When using GNOME Shell, run gnome-tweak-tool, enable Icons on Desktop. Double-click the gnome-terminal icon on desktop to start a terminal. After a reboot (at least here), the terminal starts in / dir instead of $HOME. Oh, so this is what I need to do to get terminal on my desktop like I use to have all the time, but have gotten use to no longer having? Otherwise, what does creating this file gain me? I have already enabled Icons on Desktop. Oh, and I have lost ctl-alt-l to lock my desktop. somewhere along with all this tweaking. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Auto suspend/spin-down idle disk
2013/12/29 Tim ignored_mail...@yahoo.com.au Allegedly, on or about 29 December 2013, John Obaterspok sent: Any hints on how I get the disks to spin down? Do a manual unmount, and leave it unmounted, perhaps? Well, then it's easier to force them to suspend. The media disk is used via smb/nfs occasionally. There must be a way to get this to work correctly -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Reverse E-Mail Blockage.....
On Sun, Dec 29, 2013 at 03:58:12AM -0500, David wrote: Wow! 30 per day? Just wow! You must have a spam magnet or something. :-) I use seven different accounts regularly and I don't get 20 in a month. Heh. Some people change accounts to get away from spam. I've used the same couple of addresses since around 1993--when I got my domain. I also have around 150 aliases (a bunch of general system aliases, plus one for every client's support account). It's not uncommon for SpamAssassin to catch 400-700 a *day*. When really bad new campaigns start up, sometimes it can go over a thousand. Usually, only 5-10 get through, whereupon I feed 'em to sa-learn. And the filters have gotten good enough that I only spot check the rejects; I've not found a false positive for months, if not years. Cheers, -- Dave Ihnat dih...@dminet.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Reverse E-Mail Blockage.....
On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 01:41:40AM +1030, Tim wrote: But you don't trust it enough, not to check... Even as good as my SA rules are, I check on a spot basis. If I had to check up on it, I don't consider it trustworthy. Again I'll say--no matter how good any anti-spam software is, there will ALWAYS be false positives. So on that basis, you don't like any of it? The difference between using something like SpamAssassin and having no anti-spam solution running is my having to sort through literally hundreds of spam in my live inbox--effectively losing the use of E-Mail--without the software, or only seeing a few get through, and just checking the spambuckets periodically for false positives (and even then, I've scripts to look for likely false positives.) As a result, I have functional E-Mail, and am not afraid to keep the same address for, literally, decades. Can you say the same?: All mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted, there is no point trying to privately email me, I will only read messages posted to the public lists. Ah; didn't think so. Cheers, -- Dave Ihnat dih...@dminet.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: fedora update
Patrick Dupre writes: Hello, I burnt a DVD fedora 20 to update my distro. I do not believe that updating via the distro DVD images is implemented any more. You must use fedup to update. However, it fails the test at 12.6%. It there a risk to make an update using fedup? Yes. I always have the option to download a package which may be damaged. You are assuming that you will be able to boot at all, after skipping the damaged package. If the damaged package is glibc, or one of the critical gnome, systemd, or kernel packages, don't expect to be able to boot the resulting brick. Also, you do not know whether the remaining 88% of your DVD is any good at all. Besides, this is probably a moot point, since updating must be done via fedup. If you do happen to have a DVD image, you could skip downloading a bunch of stuff by using fedup --iso. But you don't need to actually burn the ISO image, for that, and, in fact, fedup does not support CD/DVD based updates (as I was amusingly informed on one of my machines by fedup, which was very convinced that my /home mount, with the DVD image, was a physical DVD drive). pgp5ry1L35Rot.pgp Description: PGP signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Reverse E-Mail Blockage.....
On 29.12.2013, Tim wrote: [CRM-114..] But you don't trust it enough, not to check... No. Because email loss is strictly not acceptable. I always check back manually. CRM-114, once trained, is pretty good, and it takes no more than 10-15 secs to see if there's real email amongst all the spam. It's a lot more comfortable for me than sorting out/deleting all the spam in my inbox. If I had to check up on it, I don't consider it trustworthy. And, probably more to the point, it's an extreme annoyance when you email someone, and their crappy anti-spam software falsely classifies your email as spam. Yes, it is. Thus, I read my spam-folder daily. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Reverse E-Mail Blockage.....
On Sun, 2013-12-29 at 08:49 +1030, Tim wrote: I've always considered having to check your spam for false positives to make having anti-spam filtering a waste of time. I don't think so. The spam filtering system we use at work (based on SpamAssassin with a web interface to view suspected spam) orders the messages by spam score, so I really only need look at the first few, as that is where all the false positives will be, and dozens more can be just deleted. Certainly a lot better than sifting through dozens of spams in my inbox every day. YMMV. --Greg -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
keeping Bluetooth indicator visible - Gnome
When I have a bluetooth device (jambox) connected, there's a bluetooth indicator on the upper right of the screen, next to the network connection indicator. When the device is disconnected, the bluetooth indicator goes away. Is there a way to keep it visible whether there's a device connected or not? I now I can reconnect later from Preferences - Bluetooth, but it would be nice to click (or right click) on the indicator to make the connection. -- -- Steve -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Reverse E-Mail Blockage.....
On 12/28/2013 01:12 PM, Richard Vickery wrote: On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 10:23 AM, Steven Stern subscribed-li...@sterndata.com mailto:subscribed-li...@sterndata.com wrote: On 12/28/2013 11:32 AM, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote: On 28/12/13 12:13, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote: Yes Joachim this is EXACTLY what I was looking for!..Thank you so much! My Inbox seems to be growing every day with more and more spam. I literally spent a whole hour and a half ...JUST adding email addresses to the Block list...and now that you've given me this knowledge, I should just be able to let in what I need and everything else will get tossed into the trash!..thanks so much! Happy New Year!! EGO II That's strange, all my mail comes through gmail and I rarely see any spam unless I go in and look at what they've filtered out. I only use Thunderbird filters to sort messages into categories/directories. Bob Agreed... I check my Gmail spam folder about once a week to see if it had any false positives. I gave up running my own mail server as Google does a much better job. -- -- Steve -- I wonder what Google's secret is? A huge base of mail, lots of engineers to throw at building tests, and lots of compute power. It can be done via spamassassin. I've successfully run large mail systems based on clamav and spamassassin, but for my purposes, I'm happy to let Google do it. -- -- Steve -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: fedora update
Since I can access to all the rpm files on the DVD, I expected to find a tool to verify the *.rpm files! Does it not exist? Something like rpm -Vp Patrick Dupre writes: Hello, I burnt a DVD fedora 20 to update my distro. I do not believe that updating via the distro DVD images is implemented any more. You must use fedup to update. However, it fails the test at 12.6%. It there a risk to make an update using fedup? Yes. I always have the option to download a package which may be damaged. You are assuming that you will be able to boot at all, after skipping the damaged package. If the damaged package is glibc, or one of the critical gnome, systemd, or kernel packages, don't expect to be able to boot the resulting brick. Also, you do not know whether the remaining 88% of your DVD is any good at all. Besides, this is probably a moot point, since updating must be done via fedup. If you do happen to have a DVD image, you could skip downloading a bunch of stuff by using fedup --iso. But you don't need to actually burn the ISO image, for that, and, in fact, fedup does not support CD/DVD based updates (as I was amusingly informed on one of my machines by fedup, which was very convinced that my /home mount, with the DVD image, was a physical DVD drive). === Patrick DUPRÉ | | email: pdu...@gmx.com Laboratoire de Physico-Chimie de l'Atmosphère | | Université du Littoral-Côte d'Opale | | Tel. (33)-(0)3 28 23 76 12 | | Fax: 03 28 65 82 44 189A, avenue Maurice Schumann | | 59140 Dunkerque, France === -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Reverse E-Mail Blockage.....
On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 01:41:40AM +1030, Tim wrote: Tim: I've always considered having to check your spam for false positives to make having anti-spam filtering a waste of time. Heinz Diehl: It depends. I've been receiving about 30 spam emails daily, on average. A quick look into my spam-folder is enough to check if any serious email accidently got classified as spam. I'm using a combination of procmail and CRM-114, by the way.. But you don't trust it enough, not to check... If I had to check up on it, I don't consider it trustworthy. You don't entertain the possibility that not all spam filters are 100% correct or that no software is 100% reliable, given the fact that it's all developed by humans, none of whom are 100% infallible? And, probably more to the point, it's an extreme annoyance when you email someone, and their crappy anti-spam software falsely classifies your email as spam. Eventually you give up trying to get a reply from them, and have to phone them for a response. Did it ever cross your mind that the software might not be so crappy, but that the user might not know how to write filters correctly? I really get tired of people blaming the software, and yes, there is some really crappy software out there but a program that has been in widespread use for a long time has almost all the bugs fixed and ain't all that crappy. -- Bob Holtzman Your mail is being read by tight lipped NSA agents who fail to see humor in Doctor Strangelove Key ID 8D549279 signature.asc Description: Digital signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Reverse E-Mail Blockage.....
On Sun, Dec 29, 2013 at 10:16:19AM -0600, Dave Ihnat wrote: snip... It's not uncommon for SpamAssassin to catch 400-700 a *day*. When really bad new campaigns start up, sometimes it can go over a thousand. Usually, only 5-10 get through, whereupon I feed 'em to sa-learn. Doesn't your ISP have spam filters or are you the ISP? .snip. -- Bob Holtzman Your mail is being read by tight lipped NSA agents who fail to see humor in Doctor Strangelove Key ID 8D549279 signature.asc Description: Digital signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: fedora update
On Sun, 29 Dec 2013 21:30:40 +0100, Patrick Dupre wrote: Since I can access to all the rpm files on the DVD, I expected to find a tool to verify the *.rpm files! Does it not exist? Something like rpm -Vp rpm -K file.rpm Or for many files: find . -name \*.rpm | xargs rpm -K You could also fix the downloaded DVD image using rsync and a download mirror server offering rsync access. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: gnome, gnome-terminal desktop icon oddity
On Sun, Dec 29, 2013 at 3:57 PM, Robert Moskowitz r...@htt-consult.com wrote: Oh, and I have lost ctl-alt-l to lock my desktop. super-l -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: fedup leaves half done 18 19
On 12/29/2013 04:40 AM, Lars E. Pettersson wrote: On 12/29/2013 04:36 AM, Joe Zeff wrote: It means that the release version is, or should be, 19. However, I'd suggest that you use package-cleanup --dupes and check to see if you have duplicate versions of fedora-release-noarch. You can use 'package-cleanup --cleandupes' to remove any old packages still there. After that, use 'yum distro-sync' to get everything as close to a new f19 install as possible, and also install the missing f19 kernel. You should also check for *.rpmnew and *.rpmsave files (new or old configuration files saved), and update the configuration files that need updates (check with diff what the differences are, if something significant, update the configuration file) find / -xdev -name '*.rpmnew' -o -name '*.rpmsave' Lars thanks. I used --cleandupes, but that failed if any package was obsoleted. Interestingly, yum remove obsoleted package wouldn't remove the package, but just gave a message that the package was obsoleted! rpm -e worked. After getting cleandupes to work, ran fedup again. Iterated twice, but finally got it. Of course, now the f19 kernel panics! sean -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Updated to 19; now kernel panic on boot. No log
Updated to F19, kernel-3.12.5-200.fc19.x86_64. On boot I get a kernel panic around [2.2]. The trace that's on the screen is about smp, timers, hpet. Can't read quickly enough to see what actually happened. /var/log/messages has no log of the kernel boot. Shouldn't there be one? rsyslogd.conf seems to be set to put it all in syslog: # Log anything (except mail) of level info or higher. # Don't log private authentication messages! *.info;mail.none;authpriv.none;cron.none/var/log/messages I can boot with the F18 kernel. syslog there shows logging started right at boot: Dec 29 18:04:06 new-gateway rsyslogd: [origin software=rsyslogd swVersion=7.2.6 x-pid=424 x-info=http://www.rsyslog.com;] start Dec 29 18:04:06 new-gateway systemd-cgroups-agent[226]: Failed to get D-Bus connection: Failed to connect to socket /org/freedesktop/systemd1/private: Conn ection refused Dec 29 18:04:06 new-gateway systemd[1]: systemd 204 running in system mode. (+PAM +LIBWRAP +AUDIT +SELINUX +IMA +SYSVINIT +LIBCRYPTSETUP +GCRYPT +ACL +XZ) Dec 29 18:04:06 new-gateway systemd[1]: Set hostname to new-gateway.11hidden. Dec 29 18:04:06 new-gateway systemd[1]: Starting LVM2 metadata daemon... Dec 29 18:04:06 new-gateway systemd-sysctl[248]: Overwriting earlier assignment of kernel/sysrq in file '/etc/sysctl.conf'. Dec 29 18:04:06 new-gateway systemd[1]: Started Apply Kernel Variables. Dec 29 18:04:06 new-gateway systemd[1]: Started Setup Virtual Console. Dec 29 18:04:06 new-gateway systemd[1]: Started Create static device nodes in /dev. Dec 29 18:04:06 new-gateway systemd[1]: Started LVM2 metadata daemon. Dec 29 18:04:06 new-gateway systemd[1]: Starting udev Kernel Device Manager... Dec 29 18:04:06 new-gateway systemd[1]: Mounted POSIX Message Queue File System. Dec 29 18:04:06 new-gateway kernel: [0.00] Initializing cgroup subsys cpuset Dec 29 18:04:06 new-gateway kernel: [0.00] Initializing cgroup subsys cpu Dec 29 18:04:06 new-gateway kernel: [0.00] Initializing cgroup subsys cpuacct Dec 29 18:04:06 new-gateway kernel: [0.00] Linux version 3.11.10-100.fc18.x86_64 (mockbuild@bkernel02) (gcc version 4.7.2 20121109 (Red Hat 4.7.2-8 ) (GCC) ) #1 SMP Mon Dec 2 20:28:38 UTC 2013 Or does the error about the D-Bus connection cause logging to fail? Any help appreciated. sean -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: System mail (Fedora 20)
On Sun, Dec 29, 2013 at 12:24:14PM +, Frank Murphy wrote: On Sun, 29 Dec 2013 13:02:06 +0100 Suvayu Ali fatkasuvayu+li...@gmail.com wrote: rpm -q exim sendmail postfix mailx package exim is not installed package sendmail is not installed package postfix is not installed mailx-12.5-10.fc20.x86_64 As I stated mailx allows me to read system-mail in claws-mail. From: Anacron root@ To: root Subject: Anacron job 'cron.daily' on frank01.* Well you must be doing something different that allows you to do that. I read my mail directly from /var/spool/mail/user. And I have the following line in /etc/aliases: # Person who should get root's mail root: user What do you do to get claws-mail read your mailbox? Just point to /var/spool/mail/user? -- Suvayu Open source is the future. It sets us free. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: gnome, gnome-terminal desktop icon oddity
On 12/29/2013 05:04 PM, Tom H wrote: On Sun, Dec 29, 2013 at 3:57 PM, Robert Moskowitz r...@htt-consult.com wrote: Oh, and I have lost ctl-alt-l to lock my desktop. super-l Got it thanks. I only started seeing reference to the 'super' key with f20. Seems I was blissfully ignorant until recently what to call that button that was equivalent to the right click (in many cases). Took me a bit to figure it out :) Anyway, it sure seems like at first install, ctl-alt-l was working, but could have just been another of those senior moments. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: gnome, gnome-terminal desktop icon oddity
On 12/29/2013 08:08 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 12/29/2013 05:04 PM, Tom H wrote: On Sun, Dec 29, 2013 at 3:57 PM, Robert Moskowitz r...@htt-consult.com wrote: Oh, and I have lost ctl-alt-l to lock my desktop. super-l Got it thanks. I only started seeing reference to the 'super' key with f20. Seems I was blissfully ignorant until recently what to call that button that was equivalent to the right click (in many cases). Took me a bit to figure it out :) Oh, wrong button. 'Super' is the 'Windows' button that Gnome uses to bring us to the 'overview'? screen... Got it. Really this time. I looked at what I was doing. Anyway, it sure seems like at first install, ctl-alt-l was working, but could have just been another of those senior moments. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: gnome, gnome-terminal desktop icon oddity
Allegedly, on or about 29 December 2013, Robert Moskowitz sent: it sure seems like at first install, ctl-alt-l was working, but could have just been another of those senior moments. For several years, through different incarnations of Fedora, and on different hardware, I've had computers where the lock-screen hotkey worked, always worked, once worked until something was customised, or never worked. With the last two being insurmountable, never again would it work. So, as far as I can see, what you've said doesn't sound impossible. -- [tim@localhost ~]$ uname -rsvp Linux 3.9.10-100.fc17.x86_64 #1 SMP Sun Jul 14 01:31:27 UTC 2013 x86_64 All mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted, there is no point trying to privately email me, I will only read messages posted to the public lists. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
I'm trying to install intel xdk
I'm trying to install intel xdk software . Has any one got it to to work ? If so how . it is asking for libudev.so.0 . I can not find it -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Reverse E-Mail Blockage.....
Tim: If I had to check up on it, I don't consider it trustworthy. Dave Ihnat: Again I'll say--no matter how good any anti-spam software is, there will ALWAYS be false positives. So on that basis, you don't like any of it? If I have to double-check, what's the point of it? Seriously! How different is that than just hitting delete on the way through reading your mail? I think I've been doing internet email for about a dozen years, now, can't say I've ever found anti-spam convenient. As a result, I have functional E-Mail, and am not afraid to keep the sameaddress for, literally, decades. Can you say the same?: All mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted, there is no point trying to privately email me, I will only read messages posted to the public lists. Ah; didn't think so. That's my one, and only, anti-spam handler that I've used for the last several years. This mailing list gets a special address. And, for what it's worth, it's not just an anti-spam measure. I really do not desire private messages from strangers. The warning is upfront about it. My personal mail, which I think I've had for several years after getting my own domain has no anti-spam handling, and needs none. And I have another address that I have used on mailing lists, and that does get spam, hence why I joined this list differently. But after taking these measures, I only get about one spam a day. On the other hand, if I used a spamable address on this mailing list, I would need to use anti-spam software. And every anti-spam solution that I've ever tried I consider to be utter crap and a pain to have to constantly manage. It's *never* set and forget. -- [tim@localhost ~]$ uname -rsvp Linux 3.9.10-100.fc17.x86_64 #1 SMP Sun Jul 14 01:31:27 UTC 2013 x86_64 All mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted, there is no point trying to privately email me, I will only read messages posted to the public lists. George Orwell's '1984' was supposed to be a warning against tyranny, not a set of instructions for supposedly democratic governments. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Reverse E-Mail Blockage.....
Tim: If I had to check up on it, I don't consider it trustworthy. Robert Holtzman: You don't entertain the possibility that not all spam filters are 100% correct or that no software is 100% reliable, given the fact that it's all developed by humans, none of whom are 100% infallible? I don't care why it's unreliable, since I'm not trying to fix it. Did it ever cross your mind that the software might not be so crappy, but that the user might not know how to write filters correctly? I really get tired of people blaming the software, and yes, there is some really crappy software out there but a program that has been in widespread use for a long time has almost all the bugs fixed and ain't all that crappy. While it's true that some people can't their configure software, there's plenty that just isn't configurable (no user options, or no client interface to do so, the service provider just provides an on/off option for filtering, as a whole). I'm certainly going to blame the tools, when the tools *are* bad. In the past, I've emailed friends, and my first or second posting has gone into their spam bucket, without them doing anything about it. e.g. Emailing a friend at their hotmail address, from a hotmail address. The same with yahoo. Sometimes the reasons are completely unfathomable, other times you can see the anti-spam headers shovelled into the mail, and some of the applied assessments are just plain ludicrous. ISPs and major mail service providers are in a prime position to do really effective spam filtering, yet few of them do a good job. But that really is the best place to do the filtering, not on your own personal PC, which has no access to the honeypot data a large server has. Spam has made email horrible to use. Anti-spam solutions has made it even worse. -- [tim@localhost ~]$ uname -rsvp Linux 3.9.10-100.fc17.x86_64 #1 SMP Sun Jul 14 01:31:27 UTC 2013 x86_64 All mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted, there is no point trying to privately email me, I will only read messages posted to the public lists. George Orwell's '1984' was supposed to be a warning against tyranny, not a set of instructions for supposedly democratic governments. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Reverse E-Mail Blockage.....
On 12/29/2013 07:37 PM, Tim wrote: In the past, I've emailed friends, and my first or second posting has gone into their spam bucket, without them doing anything about it. I have a friend who's email service sporadically bounces my email. Why? Because I own my own domain, I use my hosting company's email servers instead of my ISP's and a small number of their customers are spammers. Whenever their spam gets above a certain threshold, her ISP blocks any email access from those servers, and cuts us off. This is why I dislike blacklists: they're just about guaranteed to produce at least 99% false positives because they're just an exercise in throwing the baby out with the bath water. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: I'm trying to install intel xdk
On 12/30/13 11:26, William Biggs wrote: I'm trying to install intel xdk software . Has any one got it to to work ? If so how . it is asking for libudev.so.0 . I can not find it Delete the symbolic link for libudev.so.0 in /opt/intel/XDK. Then. ln -s /usr/lib64/libudev.so.1 libudev.so.0 Assuming, of course, that you're using the 64-bit distribution. -- Getting tired of non-Fedora discussions and self-serving posts -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Reverse E-Mail Blockage.....
On 12/29/2013 10:53 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 12/29/2013 07:37 PM, Tim wrote: In the past, I've emailed friends, and my first or second posting has gone into their spam bucket, without them doing anything about it. I have a friend who's email service sporadically bounces my email. Why? Because I own my own domain, I use my hosting company's email servers instead of my ISP's and a small number of their customers are spammers. Whenever their spam gets above a certain threshold, her ISP blocks any email access from those servers, and cuts us off. This is why I dislike blacklists: they're just about guaranteed to produce at least 99% false positives because they're just an exercise in throwing the baby out with the bath water. Well this is all fascinating to me. I'm not using a mail server, just trying to keep the size of my Inbox down, since the more spam it gets the fatter it gets as wellI will be looking into all possibilities regarding this matter. I can now see that the Allow In Just what I want Block All Others is the more sensible way to go about it...instead of trying to block what seems like millions of different email addresses that sometimes have the same email in it.!! EGO II -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Reverse E-Mail Blockage.....
On Sun, Dec 29, 2013 at 02:25:41PM -0700, Robert Holtzman wrote: Doesn't your ISP have spam filters or are you the ISP? Effectively, I am. I run my own mail server, and just use my ISP as a pipe. Cheers, -- Dave Ihnat dih...@dminet.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Reverse E-Mail Blockage.....
On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 01:57:52PM +1030, Tim wrote: If I have to double-check, what's the point of it? Seriously! How different is that than just hitting delete on the way through reading your mail? Nothing--if you've only, say, 10 messages. If you're talking about dozens or hundreds, it makes a difference. Seriously. I think I've been doing internet email for about a dozen years, now, can't say I've ever found anti-spam convenient. I've been a consultant for almost 40 years, and doing E-Mail for something like 30. Among other things, I do civil forensic investigations--meaning I incur the wrath of people who have a vested interest in getting back at me. I most assuredly have found real anti-spam more than convenient. And, for what it's worth, it's not just an anti-spam measure. I really do not desire private messages from strangers. The warning is upfront about it. *Shrug.* Your choice, of course. On the other hand, if I used a spamable address on this mailing list, I would need to use anti-spam software. And every anti-spam solution that I've ever tried I consider to be utter crap and a pain to have to constantly manage. It's *never* set and forget. It sounds to me like you don't care for anti-spam solutions, and as such have never really investigated the viable options. I can understand your sentiments, but don't agree with your conclusions. It's your choice, and I respect that. Cheers, -- Dave Ihnat dih...@dminet.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Reverse E-Mail Blockage.....
On Sun, Dec 29, 2013 at 07:53:53PM -0800, Joe Zeff wrote: I have a friend who's email service sporadically bounces my email. Why? Because I own my own domain, I use my hosting company's email servers instead of my ISP's and a small number of their customers are spammers. Whenever their spam gets above a certain threshold, her ISP blocks any email access from those servers, and cuts us off. It's called a shared server, and is one of the greatest complaints I get from my clients. Essentially, ISPs in the past have often used the same server to deliver E-Mail for multiple--often hundreds--of hosted clients. As you've discovered, one bad neighbor will cause the shared server IP to be blocked. Given the current state of SMTP protocol and the ability to forge anything except the IP, there's nothing to do about this--there is no better way to identify offenders. The solution is to get a private IP from your ISP if they're hosting your mail server. It usually costs a few dollars to do so, but guarantees that your IP isn't tainted by others on the same server. (There are some RBLs that reject by IP blocks, but most have fallen by the wayside over time.) This is why I dislike blacklists: they're just about guaranteed to produce at least 99% false positives because they're just an exercise in throwing the baby out with the bath water. Most RBLs have options to request delisting, and even without that will usually delist after a few hours unless there's a repeat report. Most ISPs have an interest in clearing their servers from RBLs, and if notified that one or more of their IP addresses are blocked will take steps to identify and clear up shared host problems. Yes, there are some RBLs that are bad eggs. If they regularly provide bad rejections, mailhosts stop using them. The worst problem is from the major ISPs themselves--e.g., Yahoo, and most particularly Hotmail. They maintain their own internal blacklists, don't give tools for identification, and have horrible removal request/response policies. Cheers, -- Dave Ihnat dih...@dminet.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Reverse E-Mail Blockage.....
On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 03:59:47PM +1100, Roger wrote: I don't know if this may help but there is another possibility. Much of my Inbox spam/annoying garbage emails used similar words such as ... True. But... I set up 3 filters, ... You're reinventing. Spamassassin has provision for all this, plus Baysean identification, whitelists and blacklists, custom filters... Everything you are trying to do, but much more mature and flexible. There are other packages--for instance, for POP clients on supported architectures (Windows Mac OS X, and cross-platform), POPFile works a treat--but the bottom line is my mantra for the past number of years: o In the old days, I had to write it myself. o Today, if I want to do it, somebody has probably written something to do it. o If it exists, it probably exists in FOSS. Cheers, -- Dave Ihnat dih...@dminet.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: F20 Installs Fail From Every Angle (Michael Schwendt)
On Dec 29, 2013, at 7:51 AM, Brian Hanks bha...@bhanks.net wrote: This went well until the reboot. Following the reboot I select the Fedup option, but nothing really happened. I ended up back in my Fedora 19 system while running the new Fedora 20 kernel. You chose the fedup option in GRUB, but instead of getting text status of the progessing update, you got what appeared to be normal F19 boot? If /var is a separate partition/LV instead of on rootfs, this behavior occurs. Please post your fstab if unsure. Do you have any encrypted partitions or volumes? Please post the result of lsblk if yes. Chris Murphy-- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
satellite - toshiba c55-a5286
The system is unable to work with Centos 6.5 for connecting to the network. Currently downloading FC20 to see if that makes a diffference with the updated Kernel, or updated drivers. Right now, when I do a centos install, the page that has the network config is greyed out, so the install isn't seeing the card. As a result, the NM/netowrk config from the System/Accessories menus doesn't function. So I suspect I need to resolve the issues after doing the initial installation process. The lspci gives: 01:00.0 Ethernet controller: Qualcomm Atheros AR8162 Fast Ethernet (rev 10) Subsystem: Toshiba America Info Systems Device ff1e Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 16 Memory at c850 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=256K] I/O ports at 3000 [size=128] Capabilities: [40] Power Management version 3 Capabilities: [58] Express Endpoint, MSI 00 Capabilities: [c0] MSI: Enable- Count=1/16 Maskable+ 64bit+ Capabilities: [d8] MSI-X: Enable- Count=16 Masked- Capabilities: [100] Advanced Error Reporting Capabilities: [180] Device Serial Number ff-6a-db-bd-00-8c-fa-ff Kernel driver in use: alx Kernel modules: alx 02:00.0 Network controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8188EE Wireless Network Adapter (rev 01) Subsystem: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. Device 0191 Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0 I/O ports at 2000 [size=256] Memory at c840 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K] Capabilities: [40] Power Management version 3 Capabilities: [50] MSI: Enable- Count=1/1 Maskable- 64bit+ Capabilities: [70] Express Endpoint, MSI 00 Capabilities: [100] Advanced Error Reporting Capabilities: [140] Device Serial Number 00-e0-4c-ff-fe-81-91-01 Capabilities: [150] Latency Tolerance Reporting I'm unable to build on the system, as I can't access the netowrk to do the yum, aside from whatever is already on the initial dvds for centos 6.5. I've taken a look at the elrepos tree/site to see what might be available for the solution. I'm also looking to download/test other linux flavors to see ifubuntu/mint/etc have the same issue with the wire/wireless hardware/firmware. Thoughts/Comments on how to resolve this would be helpful. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Reverse E-Mail Blockage.....
On 12/28/2013 08:13 PM, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote: I literally spent a whole hour and a half ...JUST adding email addresses to the Block list... Do you know that a big ratio of SPAM are with forged sender address? Just try it in Thunderbird: manage identities, add, and setup a fake sender. You'll see that it's very simple to send an EMail with a fake identity. While you're blocking on the sender basis, you're likely to miss many important things. On the other hand, if you are whitelisting a bunch of known adresses, if the SPAM is forged with those, you will still continue to get SPAM. -- +261 34 81 738 69 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Reverse E-Mail Blockage.....
On 12/28/2013 08:32 PM, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote: That's strange, all my mail comes through gmail and I rarely see any spam unless I go in and look at what they've filtered out. I only use Thunderbird filters to sort messages into categories/directories. SPAM is very subjective. I saw users subscribing to several newsletters for an event (say XMas) and then in February they're too lazy to cleanly unsubscribe: they just tag the message as SPAM, and they argue it's SPAM because they dont want to receive the messages anymore. Dumb, but true. -- +261 34 81 738 69 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: failed to ..
On Dec 28, 2013, at 8:15 PM, Patrick Dupre pdu...@gmx.com wrote: Hello, I tried to set relabel by using system-config-selinux, but nothing happens I have to keep selinux=0 to be able to boot! Try autorelabel=1, and in the future if you have selinux problems you don't want to troubeleshoot use enforcing=0. Disabling selinux is a hammer and eventually causes more problems. Better to abandon Fedora kernels, and build your own without selinux compiled in (which you can do with Fedora tools of course, just change the kernel config and recompile). http://danwalsh.livejournal.com/10972.html Chris Murphy -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: failed to ..
On 12/30/2013 07:01 AM, Chris Murphy wrote: On Dec 28, 2013, at 8:15 PM, Patrick Dupre pdu...@gmx.com wrote: Hello, I tried to set relabel by using system-config-selinux, but nothing happens I have to keep selinux=0 to be able to boot! Try autorelabel=1, and in the future if you have selinux problems you don't want to troubeleshoot use enforcing=0. Disabling selinux is a hammer and eventually causes more problems. With all due respect, disabling SELinux *must not cause problems*. If it does, somebody is critically broken and needs to be fixed, ASAP. Ralf -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Fedora features enquire and requirements
Hi Team, As one of the best digital library software we want to implement Fedora for setting up digital library for our organization. However before starting I would like to know about a few features of Fedora which are essential parts of our requirements for setting up a library . Kindly clarify on below points. - Repository of data having search functionality by title, keywords, meta tags and author - Functionality to set roles of users with specified permission and set rules to access/edit/delete the content - Storage and retrieval of long-term commitments content facilitate decision - making - Data Storage of all data types (Documents, graphics, media, flash, source files, illustrator and vector files, etc.) - Data can be accessed through internet and intranet - Round the clock availability of information which accelerates any process Please find our Annual Report for financial year 2012-13 : http://www.akshayapatra.org/annual-report-2013/index.html Thanks Regards, Rahul Samaria Web Administrator The Akshaya Patra Foundation Bangalore 080 30143400 Ext: 379 www.akshayapatra.org Follows us @ [Description: youtube_icon_medium] http://wwwyoutube.com/user/akshayapatra [Description: facebook-icon] http://www.facebook.com/TheAkshayapatraFoundation [Description: twitter] http://twitter.com/akshayapatra [Description: googleplus-icon] https://plus.google.com/u/0/103409264342204954520 [Description: 3icon_linkedin] http://www.linkedin.com/company/the-akshaya-patra-foundation [Description: Pinterest-Buttons-62-14-] http://pinterest.com/akshayapatra/ [Description: Description: signature_002] No child in India will be deprived of education because of hunger inline: image001.gifinline: image002.gifinline: image003.jpginline: image004.pnginline: image005.gifinline: image006.pnginline: image007.jpg-- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
