On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 04:00:02PM -0500, Eddie G. O'Connor wrote:
On 12/30/2013 08:48 AM, Tim wrote:
Allegedly, on or about 30 December 2013, Mihamina Rakotomandimby sent:
SPAM is very subjective.
I saw users subscribing to several newsletters for an event (say XMas)
and then in February
On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 11:03:49PM -0600, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
On Tue, Dec 31, 2013 at 01:26:22 +,
Bill Oliver ven...@billoblog.com wrote:
Yeah, but poc was right in that if you have an image of the disk, you will
know that there's an encrypted partition there, and you can get a
Has anyone found a way to:
journalctl | grep last 10 minutes
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On Tue, 31 Dec 2013 10:50:46 +0800
Ed Greshko ed.gres...@greshko.com wrote:
I know this works with procmail but not sure about mailx. You can
certainly test
So, you don't need sendmail. procmail will do just fine.
systemctl status crond.service
4181 /usr/sbin/crond -n
On 12/31/13 19:24, Frank Murphy wrote:
Has anyone found a way to:
journalctl | grep last 10 minutes
man journalctl
--since=, --until=
Start showing entries on or newer than the specified date, or on or
older than the specified date, respectively. Date
On Tue, 31 Dec 2013 20:17:42 +0800
Ed Greshko ed.gres...@greshko.com wrote:
On 12/31/13 19:24, Frank Murphy wrote:
Has anyone found a way to:
journalctl | grep last 10 minutes
man journalctl
--since=, --until=
Start showing entries on or newer than the specified
On 12/31/13 20:25, Frank Murphy wrote:
On Tue, 31 Dec 2013 20:17:42 +0800
Ed Greshko ed.gres...@greshko.com wrote:
On 12/31/13 19:24, Frank Murphy wrote:
Has anyone found a way to:
journalctl | grep last 10 minutes
man journalctl
--since=, --until=
Start showing
On Tue, 31 Dec 2013 11:24:28 +
Frank Murphy frankl...@gmail.com wrote:
Has anyone found a way to:
journalctl | grep last 10 minutes
Still not there :(
journalctl -b --since=now (journalctl -b -f)
Still haven't worked out 10min segments,
maybe time fro an rfe.
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On Tue, 2013-12-31 at 11:24 +, Frank Murphy wrote:
Has anyone found a way to:
journalctl | grep last 10 minutes
journalctl --since -600
Jonathan
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On 12/31/13 21:21, Jonathan Dieter wrote:
On Tue, 2013-12-31 at 11:24 +, Frank Murphy wrote:
Has anyone found a way to:
journalctl | grep last 10 minutes
journalctl --since -600
And a Happy New Year to you too.
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On 12/30/2013 06:46 PM, Chris Murphy wrote:
On Dec 30, 2013, at 4:22 PM, Robert Moskowitz r...@htt-consult.com wrote:
I just got a Toshiba Canvio Desk 2TB external HD that my plans are to delete
the NTFS partition and put on an EXT4 one.
Thing is the first 106MB are unallocated. Why?
Can
On Tue, 31 Dec 2013 15:21:12 +0200
Jonathan Dieter jdie...@lesbg.com wrote:
On Tue, 2013-12-31 at 11:24 +, Frank Murphy wrote:
Has anyone found a way to:
journalctl | grep last 10 minutes
journalctl --since -600
Jonathan
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In the US you *can* be ordered to provide a password. Though appeals are still
working their way up to the Supreme Court, various courts have said you must,
while others have said that you may not. See, for instance:
On 30.12.2013, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
But which is the kindest to the system resources, sendmail or postfix?
Postfix, definitely.
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On 12/29/2013 10:31 AM, Patrick Dupre wrote:
Thank, It works.
On Sun, 29 Dec 2013 14:40:26 +0100, Patrick Dupre wrote:
Hello,
After cloning a distribution fedora 19, I have to set selinux=0 to be
able to boot. How can I do to avoid this
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On 12/30/2013 11:11 AM, Chris Murphy wrote:
On Dec 29, 2013, at 11:37 PM, Ralf Corsepius rc040...@freenet.de wrote:
On 12/30/2013 07:01 AM, Chris Murphy wrote:
On Dec 28, 2013, at 8:15 PM, Patrick Dupre pdu...@gmx.com wrote:
Hello,
I
On 13-12-31 08:16:01, Frank Murphy wrote:
On Tue, 31 Dec 2013 11:24:28 +
Frank Murphy frankl...@gmail.com wrote:
Has anyone found a way to:
journalctl | grep last 10 minutes
Still not there :(
journalctl -b --since=now (journalctl -b -f)
Still haven't worked out 10min
I just tried doing a fedup F18 to F20; the fedup itself worked fine
(apart from from a few warnings about GPG keys), but booting from the
'System Upgrade' grub entry failed early on, not being able to find
any of my system's filesystems. I suspect this is due to them being LUKS
encrypted (these
On 12/30/2013 08:20 PM, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
they aren't likely to be reading mail from the local machine (and less
likely to be reading root's email).
That's the reason for /etc/aliases Just make an alias for root, sending
root mail to a certain user or users.
So for mail delivery I
On Tue, Dec 31, 2013 at 1:03 AM, Bill Oliver ven...@billoblog.com wrote:
Yeah, that's what I thought. I'm a little surprised that there hasn't
been a variant of linux developed for areas with intrusive government
surveillance. I recently noticed that the government of Venezuela has a
On 12/30/2013 08:23 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
I can't see what the problem is.
yum install sendmailgets you what was before.
Is this really an insurmountable obstacle?
No. Not for me. But perhaps for other users. Perhaps not as savvy when
it comes to computers. Would it not be nice if
On Dec 31, 2013, at 8:57 AM, Daniel J Walsh dwa...@redhat.com wrote:
THere was a bug in libselinux which is now fixed, that was causing the
problem.
Right, but I thought that the bug caused the setting in /etc/selinux/config
being ignored, while selinux=0 and enforcing=0 still worked?
Hi
On Tue, Dec 31, 2013 at 12:15 PM, Lars E. Pettersson wrote:
Including sendmail and syslog makes it easier for the ordinary user. And
that is a good thing. At least in my book.
That seems to be made up. ordinary users are not reading mails send to
root or carefully reading
On Tue, Dec 31, 2013 at 14:13:11 +,
Bill Oliver ven...@billoblog.com wrote:
In the US you *can* be ordered to provide a password. Though appeals are still
working their way up to the Supreme Court, various courts have said you must,
while others have said that you may not. See, for
Hi,
On one of my systems, journald is using over 1 gig of disk space. So I
tried to limit it in /etc/systemd/journald.conf like this:
[Journal]
#SystemMaxUse=1.0G
SystemMaxFileSize=1.0G
However it seems to be ignored. After a
# systemctl restart systemd-journald.service
I see the
On Tue, Dec 31, 2013 at 18:05:05 +0100,
Lars E. Pettersson l...@homer.se wrote:
Logwatch watches the logs and report strange things. I find it
useful. What would you like removed from it?
I think for normal people they just need to be alerted to critical things,
like low disk storage,
On 12/31/2013 06:27 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
That seems to be made up. ordinary users are not reading mails send
to root or carefully reading /var/log/messages and to the extend any
user is wanting to go through logs, they will find the features of
integrated tools like journalctl much much
On Tue, Dec 31, 2013 at 06:55:34PM +0100, Lars E. Pettersson wrote:
Again, for you or me this is no problem. We can set up our computers to do
exactly whatever we want, but should we not strive to make the system easy
to use, and to get information from, even for an ordinary user not as
Is there a list of available variables when doing a kickstart install?
I'm working up a kickstart for F20 and got curious if there's any that
anaconda sets by default. I know that you can use $releasever and
$basearch when defining repos. A few that I'd like to use if they exist
would be:
Hi, I have fc20 installed successfully on my desktop.
How can I configure the clock at the top to show the date? Why would
it be so difficult to do such a simple thing? I googled a bit, and saw
a reference to editing dateMenu.js, but the suggestions didn't work. I
can't believe I'd have to edit a
HI
On Tue, Dec 31, 2013 at 12:55 PM, Lars E. Pettersson wrote:
On 12/31/2013 06:27 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
That seems to be made up. ordinary users are not reading mails send
to root or carefully reading /var/log/messages and to the extend any
user is wanting to go through logs, they
On 12/31/2013 12:27 PM, Alex wrote:
Hi, I have fc20 installed successfully on my desktop.
How can I configure the clock at the top to show the date? Why would
it be so difficult to do such a simple thing? I googled a bit, and saw
a reference to editing dateMenu.js, but the suggestions didn't
HI
On Tue, Dec 31, 2013 at 1:27 PM, Alex mysqlstud...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi, I have fc20 installed successfully on my desktop.
How can I configure the clock at the top to show the date? Why would
it be so difficult to do such a simple
On Tue, Dec 31, 2013 at 05:16:58PM +1030, Tim wrote:
Allegedly, on or about 30 December 2013, Eddie G. O'Connor sent:
I swear if EVER I find the person who invented spam?...I'm gonna hit
him with a whiffle-ball bat! LOL!
And we'll be cheering, too.
On a whim, I once googled spammer
On 12/31/2013 07:28 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
I don't buy into this argument at all. For one, there are graphical log
utilities that a regular user would be a lot more comfortable and then
root mail is mostly useless for a regular user. If you think a regular
user is spending time reading
On Tue, Dec 31, 2013 at 12:14:27PM -0600, Stephen Berg (Contractor) wrote:
Is there a list of available variables when doing a kickstart install? I'm
working up a kickstart for F20 and got curious if there's any that anaconda
sets by default. I know that you can use $releasever and $basearch
On Tue, 31 Dec 2013, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
On Tue, Dec 31, 2013 at 14:13:11 +,
Bill Oliver ven...@billoblog.com wrote:
In the US you *can* be ordered to provide a password. Though appeals are
still working their way up to the Supreme Court, various courts have said
you must, while
Hi
On Tue, Dec 31, 2013 at 1:58 PM, Lars E. Pettersson wrote:
Yes, regular users do spend time reading mail from root (after they have
found out how /etc/aliases work), and they do look at /var/log/messages. Of
course there are users that never have done either, but I would bet a
majority
On 31.12.2013, Suvayu Ali wrote:
[Journal]
#SystemMaxUse=1.0G
SystemMaxFileSize=1.0G
I guess you'll have to activate SystemMaxUse=1.0G to see the effect you're
expecting..
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On Tue, Dec 31, 2013 at 1:27 PM, Alex mysqlstud...@gmail.com wrote:
I get the whole thing with not being able to (easily) minimize
applications. I know I can also switch between them with alt-tab. I
also know I can select them from Activities, but that's an extra two
steps. Is there any
On Tue, Dec 31, 2013 at 08:56:33PM +0100, Heinz Diehl wrote:
On 31.12.2013, Suvayu Ali wrote:
[Journal]
#SystemMaxUse=1.0G
SystemMaxFileSize=1.0G
I guess you'll have to activate SystemMaxUse=1.0G to see the effect you're
expecting..
I have tried that too. In fact I tried with
Hi
On Tue, Dec 31, 2013 at 3:42 PM, Suvayu Ali wrote:
I have tried that too. In fact I tried with both set to 1.0G; no luck.
What is output of journalctl --disk-usage
Rahul
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On Tue, Dec 31, 2013 at 3:42 PM, Suvayu Ali wrote:
I have tried that too. In fact I tried with both set to 1.0G; no luck.
One more thing: can you try with 1G instead of 1.0G?
Rahul
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On Tue, Dec 31, 2013 at 3:55 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
One more thing: can you try with 1G instead of 1.0G?
Following to my own post:
1G as opposed to 1.0G works. I have filed
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1047568
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On 12/31/2013 08:37 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
That would be a lousy bet really. You can be aligning yourself with more
technical users.
On a similar note. What do you base your opinion on?
(Some of them have been technical users, but by no means all)
Regular uses probably have never heard
Hi
On Tue, Dec 31, 2013 at 4:04 PM, Lars E. Pettersson wrote:
On 12/31/2013 08:37 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
That would be a lousy bet really. You can be aligning yourself with more
technical users.
On a similar note. What do you base your opinion on?
Dozens and dozens of Linux
On Tue, Dec 31, 2013 at 04:04:03PM -0500, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
Hi
On Tue, Dec 31, 2013 at 3:55 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
One more thing: can you try with 1G instead of 1.0G?
Following to my own post:
1G as opposed to 1.0G works. I have filed
On 12/31/2013 01:20 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
Your proposal is irrelevant when we are talking about current reality.
journalctl is not a requirement to read logs. It is just far more easier
than grepping through /var/log/messages for the common use cases.
Not always. As an example, I'm
2013/12/31 Joe Zeff j...@zeff.us:
Not always. As an example, I'm getting error messages at boot time on my
laptop about [sdb] even though there isn't one. Locating them with
journalctl would require me to know exactly what field to look for, instead
of just doing this as root:
cat
On Dec 31, 2013, at 2:35 PM, Suvayu Ali fatkasuvayu+li...@gmail.com wrote:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1047568
Thanks! Another interesting bit: if I set both to 1G, journald uses 2G
(I think it just adds the two). I would expect it to pick the least
among the two.
Hi
On Tue, Dec 31, 2013 at 4:36 PM, Joe Zeff j...@zeff.us wrote:
On 12/31/2013 01:20 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
Your proposal is irrelevant when we are talking about current reality.
journalctl is not a requirement to read logs. It is just far more easier
than grepping through
On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 8:08 PM, Brian Hanks bha...@bhanks.net wrote:
Interestingly, I found this on the Fedora FedUp Wiki page:
Will packages in third party repositories be upgraded?
Yes, if they are set up like regular yum repositories and do not hard code
the repository path.
On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 6:24 PM, Robert Moskowitz r...@htt-consult.com wrote:
An unintended consequence of no default MTA in f20 is no local deliver of
system mail.
It isn't an unintended consequence.
It was decided that having an MTA wasn't needed in the default install
and those who need
On 12/31/2013 10:49 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
No. That's just blatantly wrong. journalctl's output is a pixel
perfect match of /var/log/messages.
No, it's not:
journalctl -f contains the following
Jan 01 00:10:01 tux systemd[1]: Starting Session 98 of user root.
Jan 01 00:10:01 tux
I attempted to upgrade from F19 to F20. I used a dvd of F20 (x64) and
ran:
fedup --device
All appeared to go as I would expect. However, uname now gives me:
Linux localhost.localdomain 3.12.5-200.fc19.x86_64 #1 SMP Tue Dec 17
22:21:14 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux.
What have I
dave peters writes:
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I attempted to upgrade from F19 to F20. I used a dvd of F20 (x64) and ran:
fedup --device
All appeared to go as I would expect. However, uname now gives me:
Linux localhost.localdomain 3.12.5-200.fc19.x86_64 #1 SMP Tue Dec 17 22:21:14
Hi,
I have been using blueman intermittently (as needed) for the past few
Fedora distributions but now it appears that that has been obsoleted
for F20. I was wondering what the best way for getting this to work is?
Is there any resource where I can turn to for some help?
I tried bluetooth-wizard
Hi
On Tue, Dec 31, 2013 at 6:40 PM, Lars E. Pettersson wrote:
On 12/31/2013 10:49 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
No. That's just blatantly wrong. journalctl's output is a pixel
perfect match of /var/log/messages.
No, it's not:
Sure, it has some improvements controllable via options but
On Wed, Jan 1, 2014 at 1:13 AM, Heinz Diehl h...@fritha.org wrote:
On 30.12.2013, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
But which is the kindest to the system resources, sendmail or postfix?
Postfix, definitely.
exim uses even less. If you just want local delivery, then any of
these MTA's will work out
On 12/31/2013 11:10 PM, David Beveridge wrote:
On Wed, Jan 1, 2014 at 1:13 AM, Heinz Diehl h...@fritha.org wrote:
On 30.12.2013, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
But which is the kindest to the system resources, sendmail or postfix?
Postfix, definitely.
exim uses even less. If you just want local
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