On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 10:41 AM, bruce badoug...@gmail.com wrote:
IE, I've got a drive from a separate/older system that I'd like to
mount/examine to see what packages where installed with yum on that
drive...
the installroot switch appears to be used to chroot into a separate
location for
On Thu, 02 Jan 2014 21:50:51 +0100
Lars E. Pettersson l...@homer.se wrote:
If it ends up in the journal, how will the user be informed that the
content is in the journal and should (perhaps) be acted upon?
Lars
I hope there is in the cards,
something similar to sealert (gui)
for journal
On Fri, 3 Jan 2014 02:07:13 +0100
Suvayu Ali fatkasuvayu+li...@gmail.com wrote:
This is very interesting, I would love to use that. But I don't
think I understand how. What do I put in the crontab, how do I send
this SIGUSR2 signal to journald?
An easier method:
/etc/systemd/journald.conf
On 01/02/2014 12:54 PM, Ales Kozumplik wrote:
A question, I found the following on
http://akozumpl.github.io/dnf/cli_vs_yum.html
dnf erase kernel deletes all packages called kernel
In Yum, the running kernel is spared. There is no reason to keep this in
DNF, the user can always specify
On Fri, 3 Jan 2014 12:22:41 +0200
Adrian Sevcenco adrian.sevce...@cern.ch wrote:
(Murphy says that it will :) )
Thanks!
Adrian
I said nothing of the kind!
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On 01/03/2014 06:17 AM, Ahmad Samir wrote:
On 26 December 2013 20:00, Lars E. Pettersson l...@homer.se wrote:
...
As the App Menu works bad when using multiple windows and focus follow
mouse, this should perhaps be a part of gnome-tweak-tool (a tick box there
to chose App Menu or not), so one
On 01/03/2014 12:29 PM, Frank Murphy wrote:
On Fri, 3 Jan 2014 12:22:41 +0200
Adrian Sevcenco adrian.sevce...@cern.ch wrote:
(Murphy says that it will :) )
Thanks!
Adrian
I said nothing of the kind!
:)) Sorry, i was talking about this [1]
But, wouldn't you agree with the statement?
On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 12:14 AM, Joe Zeff j...@zeff.us wrote:
On 01/02/2014 03:42 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
That would imply that someone actually took the decision to *remove* the
protections against leaving the system with no installed kernel. Was
this discussed? What were the
Rahul Sundaram wrote:
The confusion arises from using NM to refer to anything other than the
daemon. NetworkManager is the name of only the daemon. It has frontends
in various desktop environments that have their own names. If you have
problems with them, refer to them by the appropriate
On 01/03/2014 05:07 AM, Pete Travis wrote:
I think there was some misunderstanding here. If you can't find your
cronjob output in the journal, *your* cron is broken.
Default installation:
[root@tux ~]# rpm -V cronie
[root@tux ~]# rpm -q cronie
cronie-1.4.11-4.fc20.x86_64
[root@tux ~]# rpm -V
On 01/03/2014 12:01 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F20_release_announcement#No_Default_Sendmail.2C_Syslog
Rahul, as long as we have applications that do send mail, we need an MTA
to take care of these mails, or else they are totally lost. Or at least
let those
On 01/03/2014 12:56 AM, Chris Murphy wrote:
If you like the MTA method of being notified, install an MTA. Simple. You have
been told this numerous times so don't say you haven't gotten any responses.
My question was how those, that do not have a MTA installed, is supposed
to be notified.
Hi
On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 6:10 AM, Lars E. Pettersson wrote:
On 01/03/2014 12:01 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F20_release_announcement#
No_Default_Sendmail.2C_Syslog
Rahul, as long as we have applications that do send mail, we need an MTA
to take care of
On 01/03/2014 12:48 AM, Chris Murphy wrote:
I meant how big files, i.e. content, can you send to the journal, not the size
of journal itself.
It accepts a stream with a configurable rate limiter.
No size limit? How does it show up in the kernel? Say that I have the
following data, how is
HI
On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 6:04 AM, Timothy Murphy wrote:
I don't know how one can tell what application
provides a particular icon or window?
Usually by looking at the help menu/ about option or equivalent.
Also, I'm not sure if I could run Gnome's NM-applet with KDE?
Yes, you can.
On 01/03/2014 12:35 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
You talked about home servers and I pointed out that this change was
done only on the desktop live image. Instead of acknowledging that, you
are talking about how some people need an MTA which I don't think anyone
has denied. If some package that
On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 6:49 AM, Lars E. Pettersson wrote:
Yes, instead of of discussing different levels of users, or different
levels of computer systems, I tried to point on the route problem, not
getting astray on tangents out of tangents, to steer the discussion onto a
more constructive
Allegedly, on or about 02 January 2014, Richard Shaw sent:
It's really designed for people who are running
modified/custom kernels
That's news to me. Never seen that mentioned before. And I can't
remember how many years ago I started using akmods, possibly Fedora 11,
with the default
On 01/03/2014 12:57 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
It was you who brought in the topic of home servers when this change was
done only on the desktop live image. It is not clear from your reply
whether you were already aware of this fact or not.
Yes, in response to Yes, all critical notifications
Allegedly, on or about 02 January 2014, Ales Kozumplik sent:
In practice however, a user doesn't type 'dnf erase -y kernel' by
accident and we don't feel the need to protect users who really know
what they are doing from doing so. It's the same situation as 'rm
-rf /boot' or 'rpm -e
Hi
On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 6:42 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
That would imply that someone actually took the decision to *remove* the
protections against leaving the system with no installed kernel. Was this
discussed? What were the proposers smoking?
I don't think that is implied here.
Allegedly, on or about 02 January 2014, Chris Murphy sent:
When the devel@ mega thread appeared in July, was the first time
inyears I went to look for these messages. And I found a pile of
utterly useless crap being generated; and without notification, or a
good reason for them to be generated
Allegedly, on or about 02 January 2014, Ranjan Maitra sent:
And a minor irritant: the design of the Home, PgUp, PgDn, End Buttons
(with the arrow keys, but using the Fn button which is on the other --
left -- end of the keyboard) is ludicrous.
While I agree that having to do key combinations
Rahul Sundaram wrote:
I don't know how one can tell what application
provides a particular icon or window?
Usually by looking at the help menu/ about option or equivalent.
I had tried that in this case.
The window I get after right clicking on the KDE NM-applet
and then on Network
On 01/03/14 21:07, Timothy Murphy wrote:
Rahul Sundaram wrote:
I don't know how one can tell what application
provides a particular icon or window?
Usually by looking at the help menu/ about option or equivalent.
I had tried that in this case.
The window I get after right clicking on the
poma wrote:
Right clicking on the NM icon (in Fedora-20/KDE)
brings up an unintelligible (to me) window
with 4 arrows whose function I do not understand.
Take screenshot, paste link here.
Is there a Fedora pastebin that will take a short-term PNG file?
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On 01/03/14 21:16, Ed Greshko wrote:
On 01/03/14 21:07, Timothy Murphy wrote:
Rahul Sundaram wrote:
I don't know how one can tell what application
provides a particular icon or window?
Usually by looking at the help menu/ about option or equivalent.
I had tried that in this case.
The
On Fri, Jan 03, 2014 at 01:11:39PM +0100, Lars E. Pettersson wrote:
On 01/03/2014 12:57 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
It was you who brought in the topic of home servers when this change was
done only on the desktop live image. It is not clear from your reply
whether you were already aware of
On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 10:31 PM, Marko Vojinovic vvma...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, 2 Jan 2014 21:48:32 +
Powell, Michael michael_pow...@mentor.com wrote:
I guess this is more of a general question, but sometimes after
updating the kernel or nvidia drivers an akmod isn't regenerated and
On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 6:09 AM, Tim ignored_mail...@yahoo.com.au wrote:
Allegedly, on or about 02 January 2014, Richard Shaw sent:
It's really designed for people who are running
modified/custom kernels
That's news to me. Never seen that mentioned before. And I can't
remember how many
On 01/03/14 21:46, Richard Shaw wrote:
On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 10:31 PM, Marko Vojinovic vvma...@gmail.com
mailto:vvma...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, 2 Jan 2014 21:48:32 +
Powell, Michael michael_pow...@mentor.com
mailto:michael_pow...@mentor.com wrote:
I guess this is more
Heinz Diehl:
My whole family uses Linux and has used hibernation regularly. None of
us has encountered problems so far...
Robert Moskowitz:
It seems to be rather hardware related. Some works fine, others not.
My old HP 2400 was great with it. Not so much my Lenovo x120e.
I concur. I
Rahul Sundaram:
Because it is part of pm-utils and pm stands for power management.
Robert Moskowitz:
Oh, that makes perfect sense.
Sarcasm or aha!?
I'd be sarcastic, when it comes to something like - let's abbreviate
power management to a needs-to-be-guessed at pm, but combined with a
let's
Allegedly, on or about 01 January 2014, Richard Vickery sent:
I might find hibernate on my own: why would a user use this command
rather than saving and booting up? and How does it know that to
look for the memory?
In my case, it was much quicker to resume my laptop from suspend or
hibernate
This is a Fedora-20 64 bit XFCE system.
Only once has this produced an update for me:
[root@box10 bobg]# dnf update
Resolving dependencies
-- Starting dependency resolution
-- Finished dependency resolution
Dependencies resolved.
Nothing to do.
But yum update a moment later:
Transaction
On 01/03/2014 03:47 PM, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote:
This is a Fedora-20 64 bit XFCE system.
Only once has this produced an update for me:
[root@box10 bobg]# dnf update
Resolving dependencies
-- Starting dependency resolution
-- Finished dependency resolution
Dependencies resolved.
On 01/03/2014 08:53 AM, Ales Kozumplik wrote:
On 01/03/2014 03:47 PM, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote:
This is a Fedora-20 64 bit XFCE system.
Only once has this produced an update for me:
[root@box10 bobg]# dnf update
Resolving dependencies
-- Starting dependency resolution
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On 03.01.2014 14:10, Timothy Murphy wrote:
Is there a Fedora pastebin that will take a short-term PNG file?
http://goo.gl/OlWp1U
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With F19, I got email from cron on all jobs that produced output. I no
longer get those mails after upgrading to F20. I have verified that the
jobs are run. There are no entries in /var/log/maillog for them. Other
system tasks, not run through cron, send their emails as usual.
crontab has a
Around 03:13pm on Friday, January 03, 2014 (UK time), Steven Stern wrote:
Any idea what I need to do to get my cron email restored?
Check if you have sendmail installed - it is no longer installed by
default on Fedora 20 and the default installation will no longer handle
local mail.
There is a
On 01/03/2014 04:13 PM, Steven Stern wrote:
Any idea what I need to do to get my cron email restored?
Is it an upgraded system or a new install? If it is a new install
sendmail is no longer installed, so you have to install it yourself.
Lars
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On Fri, Jan 03, 2014 at 09:13:37AM -0600, Steven Stern wrote:
With F19, I got email from cron on all jobs that produced output. I no
longer get those mails after upgrading to F20. I have verified that the
jobs are run. There are no entries in /var/log/maillog for them. Other
system tasks,
On 01/03/2014 09:19 AM, Lars E. Pettersson wrote:
On 01/03/2014 04:13 PM, Steven Stern wrote:
Any idea what I need to do to get my cron email restored?
Is it an upgraded system or a new install? If it is a new install
sendmail is no longer installed, so you have to install it yourself.
On 01/03/2014 09:16 AM, Steve Searle wrote:
Around 03:13pm on Friday, January 03, 2014 (UK time), Steven Stern wrote:
Any idea what I need to do to get my cron email restored?
Check if you have sendmail installed - it is no longer installed by
default on Fedora 20 and the default
Hi! I have a strange problem with yumex in fedora 20 :
the user interaction window (like when i am asked for confirmation for
installation of packages) does not display any text .. i can blind click
the yes button and works but it is annoying ...
Has anyone noticed this?
f20 up to date
the yumex
On Fri, Jan 03, 2014 at 09:22:17AM -0600, Steven Stern wrote:
On 01/03/2014 09:16 AM, Steve Searle wrote:
Around 03:13pm on Friday, January 03, 2014 (UK time), Steven Stern wrote:
Any idea what I need to do to get my cron email restored?
Check if you have sendmail installed - it is no
On 01/03/2014 09:30 AM, Lars E. Pettersson wrote:
On 01/03/2014 04:22 PM, Steven Stern wrote:
It's an upgrade. Sendmail is installed, enabled, and working.
Ah, OK. I also have an upgraded system, and I also have the same lines
in the crontab file, so I think it should just work. Strange.
On 01/03/2014 09:37 AM, Suvayu Ali wrote:
On Fri, Jan 03, 2014 at 09:22:17AM -0600, Steven Stern wrote:
On 01/03/2014 09:16 AM, Steve Searle wrote:
Around 03:13pm on Friday, January 03, 2014 (UK time), Steven Stern wrote:
Any idea what I need to do to get my cron email restored?
Check if
On Fri, Jan 03, 2014 at 02:01:26AM +, Tom H wrote:
On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 1:12 AM, Suvayu Ali fatkasuvayu+li...@gmail.com
wrote:
On Thu, Jan 02, 2014 at 04:52:01PM +, Tom H wrote:
On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 10:32 AM, Suvayu Ali fatkasuvayu+li...@gmail.com
wrote:
On Thu, Jan 02,
On 01/03/2014 04:39 PM, Steven Stern wrote:
$ crontab -l
I had only root do cron stuff, but set up a small cronjob for my own
user. That mail went through without a hitch. So it is probably not
related to who is running cron, root or an ordinary user.
Could there, for some reason, be that
On 01/03/2014 04:22 PM, Steven Stern wrote:
It's an upgrade. Sendmail is installed, enabled, and working.
Ah, OK. I also have an upgraded system, and I also have the same lines
in the crontab file, so I think it should just work. Strange. What is
the output of 'systemctl -l status
Hi,
after upgrading fedora 19 with fedora 20, i got the following error
message with grub is loading:
Welcome to GRUB!
error: file '/grub2/locale/en.mo.gz' not found
how is it possible after using fedup --network 20 to upgrade (in VMWare
worstation) ?
thx
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On Fri, 03 Jan 2014 09:13:37 -0600
Steven Stern subscribed-li...@sterndata.com wrote:
With F19, I got email from cron on all jobs that produced output. I
no longer get those mails after upgrading to F20. I have verified
that the jobs are run. There are no entries in /var/log/maillog for
On 03/01/14 09:53, Ales Kozumplik wrote:
Hey Bob,
that's expected:
http://dnf.baseurl.org/2014/01/02/dnf-update-and-yum-update-produce-different-output/
Ales
Ok, at least I'm not causing the problem, will continue doing yum
updates then.
Thanks,
Bob
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On 01/03/2014 09:50 AM, Lars E. Pettersson wrote:
On 01/03/2014 04:39 PM, Steven Stern wrote:
$ crontab -l
I had only root do cron stuff, but set up a small cronjob for my own
user. That mail went through without a hitch. So it is probably not
related to who is running cron, root or an
On Fri, Jan 03, 2014 at 09:43:21AM -0600, Steven Stern wrote:
On 01/03/2014 09:37 AM, Suvayu Ali wrote:
What does the following tell you?
# journalctl -ru sendmail
They tell me sendmail is running. The problem is with cron, not sendmail
I asked that to see whether sendmail
Fedora-20 64 bit XFCE system.
Requires a password to shut down as bobg. I've never had that problem
before and not certain I had it on the initial install. It is a real
annoyance ... and then it waits for stop job is running for cups
printing service, obviously I have something messed up but
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1
On 01/02/2014 05:29 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
And the mail is failing. Here is what I have done:
I determined that in: /usr/share/logwatch/default.conf/logwatch.conf mailer
= /usr/sbin/sendmail -t
so in: /etc/logwatch/conf/logwatch.conf
On 01/03/2014 09:13 AM, Steven Stern wrote:
With F19, I got email from cron on all jobs that produced output. I no
longer get those mails after upgrading to F20. I have verified that the
jobs are run. There are no entries in /var/log/maillog for them. Other
system tasks, not run through
On 01/03/2014 10:21 AM, Suvayu Ali wrote:
On Fri, Jan 03, 2014 at 09:43:21AM -0600, Steven Stern wrote:
On 01/03/2014 09:37 AM, Suvayu Ali wrote:
What does the following tell you?
# journalctl -ru sendmail
They tell me sendmail is running. The problem is with cron, not sendmail
I
On 01/03/2014 11:21 AM, Daniel J Walsh wrote:
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1
On 01/02/2014 05:29 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
And the mail is failing. Here is what I have done:
I determined that in: /usr/share/logwatch/default.conf/logwatch.conf mailer
= /usr/sbin/sendmail -t
poma wrote:
On 03.01.2014 14:10, Timothy Murphy wrote:
Is there a Fedora pastebin that will take a short-term PNG file?
http://goo.gl/OlWp1U
Thank you very much.
The window I get when I right-click on my KDE NM-applet,
and the click on Network Management Settings,
can be found at
On Thu, 02 Jan 2014 17:29:20 -0500
Robert Moskowitz r...@htt-consult.com wrote:
And the mail is failing. Here is what I have done:
I determined that in: /usr/share/logwatch/default.conf/logwatch.conf
mailer = /usr/sbin/sendmail -t
so in: /etc/logwatch/conf/logwatch.conf
mailer =
Ed Greshko wrote:
The window I get after right clicking on the KDE NM-applet
and then on Network Management Settings -
the window whose contents I do not understand -
has a Help tab, but this brings up the Plasma manual,
which does not appear to contain anything relevant.
I don't know
Ed Greshko wrote:
I think this illustrates what I think you're seeing.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2H9v1dYNcvpX2FuQ3F5OEhjeTA/edit?usp=sharing
Indeed.
Do you consider this display self-explanatory?
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On 01/03/2014 05:04 PM, Kevin Martin wrote:
On 01/03/2014 08:53 AM, Ales Kozumplik wrote:
On 01/03/2014 03:47 PM, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote:
This is a Fedora-20 64 bit XFCE system.
Only once has this produced an update for me:
[root@box10 bobg]# dnf update
Resolving
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1
On 01/03/2014 11:34 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
On 01/03/2014 11:21 AM, Daniel J Walsh wrote:
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1
On 01/02/2014 05:29 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
And the mail is failing. Here is what I have done:
Ignore the previous cron messages. It seems that the mail is going into
space because sendmail is not respecting the .forward in my home directory.
/home/sdstern/.forward contains
\r...@sterndata.com
which is a valid, external email account
but mail sent to sdstern goes to
On 01/03/2014 11:06 AM, Steven Stern wrote:
Ignore the previous cron messages. It seems that the mail is going into
space because sendmail is not respecting the .forward in my home directory.
/home/sdstern/.forward contains
\r...@sterndata.com
which is a valid, external email account
On 01/03/2014 11:49 AM, Frank Murphy wrote:
On Thu, 02 Jan 2014 17:29:20 -0500
Robert Moskowitz r...@htt-consult.com wrote:
And the mail is failing. Here is what I have done:
I determined that in: /usr/share/logwatch/default.conf/logwatch.conf
mailer = /usr/sbin/sendmail -t
so in:
On 01/03/2014 12:03 PM, Daniel J Walsh wrote:
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1
On 01/03/2014 11:34 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
On 01/03/2014 11:21 AM, Daniel J Walsh wrote:
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1
On 01/02/2014 05:29 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
And the
On 01/03/2014 12:06 PM, Steven Stern wrote:
Ignore the previous cron messages. It seems that the mail is going into
space because sendmail is not respecting the .forward in my home directory.
/home/sdstern/.forward contains
\r...@sterndata.com
which is a valid, external email account
but
On 01/03/2014 10:58 AM, Panu Matilainen wrote:
On 01/03/2014 05:04 PM, Kevin Martin wrote:
On 01/03/2014 08:53 AM, Ales Kozumplik wrote:
On 01/03/2014 03:47 PM, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote:
This is a Fedora-20 64 bit XFCE system.
Only once has this produced an update for me:
Hello everybody ,
I have a problem :
Laptop Dell 17 R model 3721 ,disk 1Tb , mem 8 Gb , vga : Radeon 8730 m and
Intel 4000 hd.
I did fresh install Windows 8.1. Pro : No problems everyting runs fine.
Therafter I did fresh install Fedora 20 (Mate , all groups) : Runs
perfectly fine , but
On Jan 3, 2014 4:08 AM, Lars E. Pettersson l...@homer.se wrote:
On 01/03/2014 05:07 AM, Pete Travis wrote:
I think there was some misunderstanding here. If you can't find your
cronjob output in the journal, *your* cron is broken.
Default installation:
[root@tux ~]# rpm -V cronie
On 01/03/2014 12:27 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
On 01/03/2014 12:06 PM, Steven Stern wrote:
Ignore the previous cron messages. It seems that the mail is going into
space because sendmail is not respecting the .forward in my home
directory.
/home/sdstern/.forward contains
On 01/03/2014 01:27 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
Somewhere I encountered that .forward was deprecated even back in f17,
and I had to stop using it and rely on editing /etc/aliases and running
newaliases.
My /root/.forward works perfectly fine here in F20. I forward all root
mail to my
On Fri, 03 Jan 2014 12:19:16 -0500
Robert Moskowitz r...@htt-consult.com wrote:
so in: /etc/logwatch/conf/logwatch.conf
mailer = /usr/bin/mailx -t
mailer = /usr/bin/mailx -s Logwatch user # where user is you.
Why subject?
Do you mean that I should not include -t
Don't include -t
On 01/03/2014 08:43 AM, Timothy Murphy issued this missive:
poma wrote:
On 03.01.2014 14:10, Timothy Murphy wrote:
Is there a Fedora pastebin that will take a short-term PNG file?
http://goo.gl/OlWp1U
Thank you very much.
The window I get when I right-click on my KDE NM-applet,
and the
On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 6:21 AM, Tim ignored_mail...@yahoo.com.au wrote:
Allegedly, on or about 01 January 2014, Richard Vickery sent:
I might find hibernate on my own: why would a user use this command
rather than saving and booting up? and How does it know that to
look for the memory?
On 03.01.2014 18:28, Kevin Martin wrote:
On 01/03/2014 10:58 AM, Panu Matilainen wrote:
On 01/03/2014 05:04 PM, Kevin Martin wrote:
On 01/03/2014 08:53 AM, Ales Kozumplik wrote:
On 01/03/2014 03:47 PM, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote:
This is a Fedora-20 64 bit XFCE system.
Only
On 01/03/2014 12:43 PM, Richard Vickery wrote:
On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 6:21 AM, Tim ignored_mail...@yahoo.com.au
mailto:ignored_mail...@yahoo.com.au wrote:
Allegedly, on or about 01 January 2014, Richard Vickery sent:
I might find hibernate on my own: why would a user use this
On 01/03/2014 12:34 PM, Frank Murphy wrote:
On Fri, 03 Jan 2014 12:19:16 -0500
Robert Moskowitz r...@htt-consult.com wrote:
so in: /etc/logwatch/conf/logwatch.conf
mailer = /usr/bin/mailx -t
mailer = /usr/bin/mailx -s Logwatch user # where user is you.
Why subject?
Do you mean that I should
On 01/03/2014 07:28 PM, Kevin Martin wrote:
On 01/03/2014 10:58 AM, Panu Matilainen wrote:
On 01/03/2014 05:04 PM, Kevin Martin wrote:
On 01/03/2014 08:53 AM, Ales Kozumplik wrote:
On 01/03/2014 03:47 PM, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote:
This is a Fedora-20 64 bit XFCE system.
Only
On 01/03/2014 09:28 AM, Kevin Martin wrote:
If it's just going to be the same old thing then why bother?
It's new, it's different, it's *shiny!* For some people, that's all
that matters.
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On 01/03/2014 09:51 AM, Mateusz Marzantowicz wrote:
There is an ongoing discussion on devel@ group about dnf being 100%
compatible with yum. Some people say that it should behave exactly like
yum (I think including all current bugs.) I don't know if you should
expect any improvements in dnf
Hi
On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 12:51 PM, Mateusz Marzantowicz
There is an ongoing discussion on devel@ group about dnf being 100%
compatible with yum. Some people say that it should behave exactly like
yum (I think including all current bugs.)
Not a single person has ever asked for 100%
Hi
On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 1:35 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
Still, if all they end up with after all that work is a program that does
what yum does but faster, it looks like an awful lot of work for little
gain. Why not just put the time into making yum faster?
They are making yum faster. dnf is
On 01/03/2014 10:52 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
They are making yum faster. dnf is a experimental fork of yum so that
the invasive changes needed to make yum more faster is done as a
separate program to allow users to test and send their feedback
Then why are they replacing yum with dnf
Hi
On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 1:59 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
Then why are they replacing yum with dnf instead of folding the
improvements into yum?
As I just noted in devel list, my understanding is that the end result will
continue to be called yum. I certainly hope that is the case
Rahul
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On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 10:22 AM, Adrian Sevcenco
adrian.sevce...@cern.ch wrote:
On 01/02/2014 12:54 PM, Ales Kozumplik wrote:
A question, I found the following on
http://akozumpl.github.io/dnf/cli_vs_yum.html
dnf erase kernel deletes all packages called kernel
In Yum, the running kernel
On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 3:05 AM, Suvayu Ali fatkasuvayu+li...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Jan 02, 2014 at 01:37:28PM -0700, Chris Murphy wrote:
Clearly it is. Most users don't know about this behavior. And it's
also not done at all on iOS, Android, Windows, OS X. And it's highly
questionable on
On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 11:10 AM, Lars E. Pettersson l...@homer.se wrote:
On 01/03/2014 12:01 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F20_release_announcement#No_Default_Sendmail.2C_Syslog
Rahul, as long as we have applications that do send mail, we need an MTA to
take care
On 1/3/2014 1:29 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
On 01/03/2014 09:28 AM, Kevin Martin wrote:
If it's just going to be the same old thing then why bother?
It's new, it's different, it's *shiny!* For some people, that's all
that matters.
You missed - I'm so afraid!! :-)
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On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 3:44 PM, Suvayu Ali fatkasuvayu+li...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Jan 03, 2014 at 02:01:26AM +, Tom H wrote:
Via google: http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Rsyslog
Thank you Tom. As ever, Gentoo Arch has the best documentation again!
You're welcome.
They do have excellent
Hi All;
Is there a way to install Fedora 20 and force it to use the old
installer, which gave me more control per installing multiple GUI's, etc?
Thanks in advance
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I think it is reliable, you just need to wait it out. The rebuilding of
akmod is being done for a given kernel while that kernel is running, so
when you update the kernel, the akmod doesn't get built until you boot
into it. And when you boot into it, systemd will at some point try to
activate
Hi Pete,
You seem to be well-versed with journalctl. I hope you don't mind my
asking a few questions.
On Thu, Jan 02, 2014 at 09:07:29PM -0700, Pete Travis wrote:
$ su -c 'crontab -l'
* * * * * echo TEST TEST
$ crontab -l
* * * * LARSHAPPY=no; if [[ $LARSHAPPY == no ]]; then echo -e
On 01/03/2014 12:00 PM, Powell, Michael wrote:
The system boot screen did indicate it was initiating / building akmods, but I
may not have let it sit long enough. When I manually build the akmod it doesn't
take longer than 2m and I'm almost certain I've let it sit longer at boot. If
it
On Fri, Jan 03, 2014 at 07:27:05PM +, Tom H wrote:
On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 3:05 AM, Suvayu Ali fatkasuvayu+li...@gmail.com
wrote:
On Thu, Jan 02, 2014 at 01:37:28PM -0700, Chris Murphy wrote:
Clearly it is. Most users don't know about this behavior. And it's
also not done at all on
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