Re: End of 32-bit support?

2015-01-20 Thread Tim
On Mon, 2015-01-19 at 22:26 -0600, Ranjan Maitra wrote: I still have refused to thrown away my old laptops and desktops which are fine otherwise and do their assigned tasks. Likewise. And I'm not keen on having one of the several hundred watt monster room heating PCs, either. --

Re: End of 32-bit support?

2015-01-20 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 01/20/2015 03:24 AM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: On Tue, 20 Jan 2015 02:12:23 + (UTC) Bill Oliver ven...@billoblog.com wrote: It's not a big deal to me -- all of my boxes are fairly modern. However, I thought one of the big selling points of linux in general is that you could run it on just

Re: End of 32-bit support?

2015-01-20 Thread Sudhir Khanger
On Tuesday, January 20, 2015 09:04:32 AM Ralf Corsepius wrote: I do not agree with your statement, but believe this to be largely a matter of _will_. You may have unlimited will but there will only be 24 hours in a day. -- Regards, Sudhir Khanger, sudhirkhanger.com, github.com/donniezazen,

Radeon driver with FC20 latest kernel update

2015-01-20 Thread Andrew R Paterson
Hi, I am running fedora 20 X86_64 I have an Intel Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q6700 @ 2.66GHz. I have an AMD radeon based GPU card : Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] RV535 [Radeon X1650 PRO] (Secondary) (rev 9e) I have two monitors : ACER Technolgies – on DVI-0 (1920x1080)

Re: End of 32-bit support?

2015-01-20 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 01/20/2015 10:23 AM, Sudhir Khanger wrote: On Tuesday, January 20, 2015 09:04:32 AM Ralf Corsepius wrote: I do not agree with your statement, but believe this to be largely a matter of _will_. You may have unlimited will but there will only be 24 hours in a day. Correct. but supporting

Re: End of 32-bit support?

2015-01-20 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Jan 20 20:12, Tim wrote: On Mon, 2015-01-19 at 22:26 -0600, Ranjan Maitra wrote: I still have refused to thrown away my old laptops and desktops which are fine otherwise and do their assigned tasks. Likewise. And I'm not keen on having one of the several hundred watt monster room

Re: Using old Creative CT-4810 sound card in F20 ??

2015-01-20 Thread poma
On 20.01.2015 04:40, Fred Smith wrote: On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 05:41:43PM -0500, Fred Smith wrote: On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 09:46:20PM +0100, poma wrote: On 19.01.2015 21:04, Fred Smith wrote: On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 08:20:33PM +0100, poma wrote: On 19.01.2015 19:41, Rick Stevens wrote: On

Re: End of 32-bit support?

2015-01-20 Thread jarmo
Tue, 20 Jan 2015 11:16:39 +0100 Who has measured speed difference 64 vs 32 when reading example New York Times? Any notable difference? :D :D Jarmo -- I'm afraid, that there's no fear -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options:

Re: End of 32-bit support?

2015-01-20 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 01/20/2015 10:56 AM, Corinna Vinschen wrote: On Jan 20 20:12, Tim wrote: On Mon, 2015-01-19 at 22:26 -0600, Ranjan Maitra wrote: I still have refused to thrown away my old laptops and desktops which are fine otherwise and do their assigned tasks. Likewise. And I'm not keen on having one

Re: Radeon driver with FC20 latest kernel update

2015-01-20 Thread poma
On 20.01.2015 12:52, Andrew R Paterson wrote: Hi, I am running fedora 20 X86_64 I have an Intel Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q6700 @ 2.66GHz. I have an AMD radeon based GPU card : Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] RV535 [Radeon X1650 PRO] (Secondary) (rev 9e) I have

Re: Radeon driver with FC20 latest kernel update

2015-01-20 Thread Andrew R Paterson
On Tuesday 20 January 2015 14:31:32 poma wrote: On 20.01.2015 12:52, Andrew R Paterson wrote: Hi, I am running fedora 20 X86_64 I have an Intel Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q6700 @ 2.66GHz. I have an AMD radeon based GPU card : Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI]

Re: Radeon driver with FC20 latest kernel update

2015-01-20 Thread Andrew R Paterson
On Tuesday 20 January 2015 14:31:09 Andrew R Paterson wrote: On Tuesday 20 January 2015 15:10:15 poma wrote: On 20.01.2015 14:44, Andrew R Paterson wrote: On Tuesday 20 January 2015 14:31:32 poma wrote: On 20.01.2015 12:52, Andrew R Paterson wrote: Hi, I am running fedora 20 X86_64

Re: Radeon driver with FC20 latest kernel update

2015-01-20 Thread poma
On 20.01.2015 14:44, Andrew R Paterson wrote: On Tuesday 20 January 2015 14:31:32 poma wrote: On 20.01.2015 12:52, Andrew R Paterson wrote: Hi, I am running fedora 20 X86_64 I have an Intel Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q6700 @ 2.66GHz. I have an AMD radeon based GPU card :

Re: Radeon driver with FC20 latest kernel update

2015-01-20 Thread Andrew R Paterson
On Tuesday 20 January 2015 15:10:15 poma wrote: On 20.01.2015 14:44, Andrew R Paterson wrote: On Tuesday 20 January 2015 14:31:32 poma wrote: On 20.01.2015 12:52, Andrew R Paterson wrote: Hi, I am running fedora 20 X86_64 I have an Intel Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q6700

Re: End of 32-bit support?

2015-01-20 Thread poma
On 20.01.2015 03:12, Bill Oliver wrote: I recently read an interesting article recently that suggested that Fedora 23 might be 64-bit only: Rather read this: Changes/Modernise GCC Flags https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Modernise_GCC_Flags This *is* practically 32-bit platform

Re: End of 32-bit support?

2015-01-20 Thread poma
On 20.01.2015 03:24, Kevin Fenzi wrote: On Tue, 20 Jan 2015 02:12:23 + (UTC) Bill Oliver ven...@billoblog.com wrote: I recently read an interesting article recently that suggested that Fedora 23 might be 64-bit only: See:

Re: End of 32-bit support?

2015-01-20 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Dave Ihnat dih...@dminet.com said: Frankly, simply dropping 32-bit support would be one of the more stu--er, ill-considered--moves Redhat could make. So, since nobody is proposing that, I guess it is good? This thread started with a Phoronix summary of a blog post, not any

Re: [389-users] Permanently Disable SSLv3

2015-01-20 Thread Mark Reynolds
John, FYI, I was able to reproduce this, and I opened this ticket: https://fedorahosted.org/389/ticket/47994 Regards, Mark On 01/05/2015 10:18 AM, John Trump wrote: 389-ds-base-1.2.11.25-1.el6.x86_64 idm-console-framework-1.1.7-2.el6.noarch 389-ds-console-1.2.6-1.el6.noarch On Wed, Dec

Re: [389-users] Fwd: patching master-master replicated servers

2015-01-20 Thread Rich Megginson
On 01/19/2015 02:11 PM, xian wrote: Hi Team, I have 2 Red Hat Directory Server instances on level 9.0 and would like to patch both to 9.1. They are operating in a master-master 2 way replication mode. How am I supposed to do that? I don't see much info in the official docs, only how to

Re: rpm -V - verifying packages

2015-01-20 Thread Tony Nelson
On 15-01-19 23:00:27, Robin Laing wrote: ... I decided to check my machine with rpm -Va rpm_verify.txt ... I do understand the configure and data files but when lib files are all showing that issue as below. S.?../usr/lib64/libgtk-3.so.0.1400.6 S.?..

Re: End of 32-bit support?

2015-01-20 Thread Rex Dieter
poma wrote: On 20.01.2015 03:12, Bill Oliver wrote: I recently read an interesting article recently that suggested that Fedora 23 might be 64-bit only: Rather read this: Changes/Modernise GCC Flags https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Modernise_GCC_Flags This *is* practically

Re: [389-users] Permanently Disable SSLv3

2015-01-20 Thread John Trump
Thank you. On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 11:52 AM, Mark Reynolds marey...@redhat.com wrote: John, FYI, I was able to reproduce this, and I opened this ticket: https://fedorahosted.org/389/ticket/47994 Regards, Mark On 01/05/2015 10:18 AM, John Trump wrote:

Re: Radeon driver with FC20 latest kernel update

2015-01-20 Thread poma
On 20.01.2015 15:46, Andrew R Paterson wrote: On Tuesday 20 January 2015 14:31:09 Andrew R Paterson wrote: On Tuesday 20 January 2015 15:10:15 poma wrote: On 20.01.2015 14:44, Andrew R Paterson wrote: On Tuesday 20 January 2015 14:31:32 poma wrote: On 20.01.2015 12:52, Andrew R Paterson

Re: Radeon driver with FC20 latest kernel update

2015-01-20 Thread Andrew R Paterson
On Tuesday 20 January 2015 16:20:26 poma wrote: On 20.01.2015 15:46, Andrew R Paterson wrote: On Tuesday 20 January 2015 14:31:09 Andrew R Paterson wrote: On Tuesday 20 January 2015 15:10:15 poma wrote: On 20.01.2015 14:44, Andrew R Paterson wrote: On Tuesday 20 January 2015 14:31:32 poma

Re: End of 32-bit support?

2015-01-20 Thread Derrik Walker v2.0
On 1/20/15 11:07, Ian Malone wrote: So far as I know raspberry pi is also 32bit ARM. While Pidora is a remix rather than official Fedora dropping that would be similarly getting rid of a chunk of users. There has been some discussion on the dev list about 32 bit support in relation to changes

Re: End of 32-bit support?

2015-01-20 Thread poma
On 20.01.2015 16:42, poma wrote: On 20.01.2015 03:12, Bill Oliver wrote: I recently read an interesting article recently that suggested that Fedora 23 might be 64-bit only: Rather read this: Changes/Modernise GCC Flags https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Modernise_GCC_Flags This

Re: End of 32-bit support?

2015-01-20 Thread Ian Malone
On 20 January 2015 at 15:53, poma pomidorabelis...@gmail.com wrote: On 20.01.2015 03:24, Kevin Fenzi wrote: On Tue, 20 Jan 2015 02:12:23 + (UTC) Bill Oliver ven...@billoblog.com wrote: I recently read an interesting article recently that suggested that Fedora 23 might be 64-bit only:

Re: End of 32-bit support?

2015-01-20 Thread Dave Ihnat
On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 11:22:42AM -0500, Derrik Walker v2.0 wrote: If they dropped support for that [Pidora], I'd be more than a little annoyed. Frankly, simply dropping 32-bit support would be one of the more stu--er, ill-considered--moves Redhat could make. Yes, Fedora is the test-bed, as

Re: Xorg display locks after idle time

2015-01-20 Thread Rick Stevens
On 01/20/2015 09:56 AM, Alex Regan wrote: Hi, I have a fedora21 box and periodically the display stops responding. The display on the monitor is blank, and trying to wake it again with the mouse or keyboard is not successful. I can VNC into the system, and while the screensaver is on with the

Re: End of 32-bit support?

2015-01-20 Thread Temlakos
On 01/20/2015 10:50 AM, poma wrote: On 20.01.2015 16:42, poma wrote: On 20.01.2015 03:12, Bill Oliver wrote: I recently read an interesting article recently that suggested that Fedora 23 might be 64-bit only: Rather read this: Changes/Modernise GCC Flags

Notification Area not running

2015-01-20 Thread jd1008
Jan 18 13:27:49 localhost org.mate.panel.applet.NotificationAreaAppletFactory: notification-area-applet: Fatal IO error 11 (Resource temporarily unavailable) on X server :0. Jan 19 15:34:39 localhost org.freedesktop.Notifications: mate-notification-daemon: Fatal IO error 11 (Resource

Re: End of 32-bit support?

2015-01-20 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 01/20/2015 06:19 PM, Rex Dieter wrote: Is it the introduction of requiring sse2? Yes, this would definitely be death of Fedora on my PIII and would force me to escape to a non-redhat distribution. I would also consider this to be an unfriendly act against those users, who are keeping

Re: End of 32-bit support?

2015-01-20 Thread Rex Dieter
Bill Oliver wrote: I recently read an interesting article recently that suggested that Fedora 23 might be 64-bit only: See: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_itempx=Fedora-23-64-bit-Proposal Thread summary is incorrect (or at least misleading). The proposal (so far) is for

Xorg display locks after idle time

2015-01-20 Thread Alex Regan
Hi, I have a fedora21 box and periodically the display stops responding. The display on the monitor is blank, and trying to wake it again with the mouse or keyboard is not successful. I can VNC into the system, and while the screensaver is on with the clock in the center, the clock does

Re: End of 32-bit support?

2015-01-20 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 01/20/2015 06:48 PM, Rex Dieter wrote: Bill Oliver wrote: I recently read an interesting article recently that suggested that Fedora 23 might be 64-bit only: See: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_itempx=Fedora-23-64-bit-Proposal Thread summary is incorrect (or at least

Fedora 21 wrong IP address when using Automatic (DHCP)

2015-01-20 Thread CS DBA
Hi All; I have a laptop with a new Fedora 21 install, Our firewall is set to serve up (DHCP) addresses from 192.168.2.100 - 192.168.2.250 When I activate the physical internet (enp0s25) I get an address of 192.168.0.100 this I cannot connect to any other servers due to the subnet

Re: Fedora 21 wrong IP address when using Automatic (DHCP)

2015-01-20 Thread CS DBA
On 1/20/15 1:06 PM, CS DBA wrote: Hi All; I have a laptop with a new Fedora 21 install, Our firewall is set to serve up (DHCP) addresses from 192.168.2.100 - 192.168.2.250 When I activate the physical internet (enp0s25) I get an address of 192.168.0.100 this I cannot connect to any other

Re: Fedora 21 wrong IP address when using Automatic (DHCP)

2015-01-20 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, CS DBA cs_...@consistentstate.com said: When I activate the physical internet (enp0s25) I get an address of 192.168.0.100 this I cannot connect to any other servers due to the subnet difference. Have you checked your network to make sure you don't have another (rogue) DHCP

special chars in gedit?

2015-01-20 Thread Dave Stevens
I need to use my notebook keyboard to insert a divide symbol, the kind with two dots and a horizontal line, it's ascii character 43 decimal. I installed gedit-plugins and character table is enabled in preferences but I don't see anywhere in the gedit screen to get into the table to select

Re: End of 32-bit support?

2015-01-20 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 01/20/2015 01:42 AM, Tim wrote: Likewise. And I'm not keen on having one of the several hundred watt monster room heating PCs, either. I'm not sure what you mean. Modern PCs tend to use a lot less power than older ones did. Upgrading almost always means running quieter, cooler, and

Re: End of 32-bit support?

2015-01-20 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 01/19/2015 10:50 PM, Michael Cronenworth wrote: To further back up Kevin a 32-bit environment must stay around, if not for Linux apps, but for Windows apps. The 64-bit platform supports 32-bit wine. And for that matter, the person proposing the change isn't proposing that no 32-bit

Re: End of 32-bit support?

2015-01-20 Thread Dave Ihnat
On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 01:19:56PM -0800, Gordon Messmer wrote: I'm not sure what you mean. Modern PCs tend to use a lot less power than older ones did. Upgrading almost always means running quieter, cooler, and using less power. Yes, and no. Towers/desktops in use with SMBs, maybe. The

Re: Two independent SSHD processes?

2015-01-20 Thread Fred Smith
On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 04:32:40PM -0800, Rick Stevens wrote: -- - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer, AllDigitalri...@alldigital.com - - AIM/Skype: therps2ICQ: 22643734Yahoo: origrps2 - -

Re: End of 32-bit support?

2015-01-20 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 01/20/2015 10:52 AM, Temlakos wrote: Does this mean Skype will no longer be available in this platform? No. There hasn't been a proposal to remove 32 bit support from the 64 bit release. The proposal, which is still hypothetical, would be to make the 32 bit platform (the release with a

Re: End of 32-bit support?

2015-01-20 Thread Temlakos
On 01/20/2015 04:38 PM, Gordon Messmer wrote: On 01/20/2015 10:52 AM, Temlakos wrote: Does this mean Skype will no longer be available in this platform? No. There hasn't been a proposal to remove 32 bit support from the 64 bit release. The proposal, which is still hypothetical, would be to

Re: End of 32-bit support?

2015-01-20 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 01/20/2015 01:43 PM, Temlakos wrote: But I have one or two 32-bit applications, that need 32-bit libraries. I would like to know these would still be available Yes. If the 32 bit platform became a secondary arch, those apps would still run on the 64 bit release, just like they do now.

Two independent SSHD processes?

2015-01-20 Thread CLOSE Dave
I'd like to run two SSH daemons on the same machine. They will listen on different ports and have other differences in their configuration. I want these two daemons to be independent of each other: either can run while the other is stopped. I need to do this for recent (systemd) machines and

Re: Two independent SSHD processes?

2015-01-20 Thread Ed Greshko
On 01/21/15 08:20, CLOSE Dave wrote: I'm finding that, although the SSH daemon records its PID in a file, that file is not configurable. Consequently, it seems that stopping one of the daemons causes the other to also stop. Same for starting one. Look in /etc/ssh/sshd_config and notice

Re: Two independent SSHD processes?

2015-01-20 Thread Rick Stevens
On 01/20/2015 04:20 PM, CLOSE Dave wrote: I'd like to run two SSH daemons on the same machine. They will listen on different ports and have other differences in their configuration. I want these two daemons to be independent of each other: either can run while the other is stopped. I need to do

[389-users] restoring multi-master server DB

2015-01-20 Thread xian
I read in RHDS docs that I must stop all replication processes before attempting to *restore* a database. Release notes of v9.1 writes about a new feature: In previous versions of Directory Server there was no explicit way to disable a replication agreement. The only methods to suspend

Re: End of 32-bit support?

2015-01-20 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 01/20/2015 01:53 PM, Michael Cronenworth wrote: On 01/20/2015 03:26 PM, Gordon Messmer wrote: The 64-bit platform supports 32-bit wine. You cannot run Win32 PE binaries with 64-bit wine. Wine does not emulate ( ;) ) arches. I know that. 32-bit Wine is available on the 64-bit Fedora

Re: Two independent SSHD processes?

2015-01-20 Thread Ian Pilcher
On 01/20/2015 06:20 PM, CLOSE Dave wrote: I'm finding that, although the SSH daemon records its PID in a file, that file is not configurable. Consequently, it seems that stopping one of the daemons causes the other to also stop. Same for starting one. There is a PidFile option in the config

Re: End of 32-bit support?

2015-01-20 Thread EGO-II.1
On 01/20/2015 07:15 PM, Gordon Messmer wrote: On 01/20/2015 01:53 PM, Michael Cronenworth wrote: On 01/20/2015 03:26 PM, Gordon Messmer wrote: The 64-bit platform supports 32-bit wine. You cannot run Win32 PE binaries with 64-bit wine. Wine does not emulate ( ;) ) arches. I know that.

Re: End of 32-bit support?

2015-01-20 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 01/20/2015 10:38 PM, Gordon Messmer wrote: On 01/20/2015 10:52 AM, Temlakos wrote: Does this mean Skype will no longer be available in this platform? No. There hasn't been a proposal to remove 32 bit support from the 64 bit release. The proposal, which is still hypothetical, would be to

Re: End of 32-bit support?

2015-01-20 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 01/21/2015 01:14 AM, Gordon Messmer wrote: On 01/20/2015 01:43 PM, Temlakos wrote: But I have one or two 32-bit applications, that need 32-bit libraries. I would like to know these would still be available Yes. If the 32 bit platform became a secondary arch, those apps would still run on

Re: End of 32-bit support?

2015-01-20 Thread jd1008
On 01/20/2015 06:12 PM, EGO-II.1 wrote: On 01/20/2015 07:15 PM, Gordon Messmer wrote: On 01/20/2015 01:53 PM, Michael Cronenworth wrote: On 01/20/2015 03:26 PM, Gordon Messmer wrote: The 64-bit platform supports 32-bit wine. You cannot run Win32 PE binaries with 64-bit wine. Wine does not

Re: Two independent SSHD processes?

2015-01-20 Thread CLOSE Dave
Ed Greshko wrote: But if you read the SSHD man page and the /etc/rc.d/init.d/sshd script, you'll find that the PID is always recorded at /var/run/sshd.pid and the PidFile variable is only used for reporting status. And if you tried it? [root@meimei run]# grep pid /etc/ssh/sshd_config

Re: Fedora-21 firewall advice?

2015-01-20 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 8:19 PM, Dan Irwin wrote: Personally, I'm somewhat amused. So the iptables scripts were broken. We all know that. Instead of fixing them, let's make a whole new firewalld thing! You misunderstood. It is not the scripts that were broken. It is just a basic

Re: Two independent SSHD processes?

2015-01-20 Thread CLOSE Dave
Ian Pilcher and others wrote: There is a PidFile option in the config file that can be used to control this. But if you read the SSHD man page and the /etc/rc.d/init.d/sshd script, you'll find that the PID is always recorded at /var/run/sshd.pid and the PidFile variable is only used for

Re: Two independent SSHD processes?

2015-01-20 Thread Ed Greshko
On 01/21/15 09:06, CLOSE Dave wrote: Ian Pilcher and others wrote: There is a PidFile option in the config file that can be used to control this. But if you read the SSHD man page and the /etc/rc.d/init.d/sshd script, you'll find that the PID is always recorded at /var/run/sshd.pid and the

Re: Two independent SSHD processes?

2015-01-20 Thread Ed Greshko
On 01/21/15 10:34, CLOSE Dave wrote: Ed Greshko wrote: Well, I don't seem to be telling you. I'm actually showing you. :-) :-) Yes, and thank you. But you didn't explicitly mention the version. In my original note, I said I'd only tried SysV. Before I make the effort to do it on systemd, I

Re: special chars in gedit?

2015-01-20 Thread Dave Stevens
Quoting Kevin Cummings cummi...@kjchome.homeip.net: On 01/20/2015 07:40 PM, Dave Stevens wrote: I need to use my notebook keyboard to insert a divide symbol, the kind with two dots and a horizontal line, it's ascii character 43 decimal. I According to *my* ASCII table, character 43 (decimal

Re: special chars in gedit?

2015-01-20 Thread Fred Smith
On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 04:40:11PM -0800, Dave Stevens wrote: I need to use my notebook keyboard to insert a divide symbol, the kind with two dots and a horizontal line, it's ascii character 43 decimal. I installed gedit-plugins and character table is enabled in preferences but I don't see

Re: Two independent SSHD processes?

2015-01-20 Thread CLOSE Dave
Ed Greshko wrote: Well, I don't seem to be telling you. I'm actually showing you. :-) :-) Yes, and thank you. But you didn't explicitly mention the version. In my original note, I said I'd only tried SysV. Before I make the effort to do it on systemd, I thought it would be worth asking for

Re: special chars in gedit?

2015-01-20 Thread Dave Stevens
Quoting Fred Smith fre...@fcshome.stoneham.ma.us: On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 04:40:11PM -0800, Dave Stevens wrote: I need to use my notebook keyboard to insert a divide symbol, the kind with two dots and a horizontal line, it's ascii character 43 decimal. I installed gedit-plugins and character

Re: special chars in gedit?

2015-01-20 Thread Doug
On 01/20/2015 08:28 PM, Kevin Cummings wrote: On 01/20/2015 07:40 PM, Dave Stevens wrote: I need to use my notebook keyboard to insert a divide symbol, the kind with two dots and a horizontal line, it's ascii character 43 decimal. I According to *my* ASCII table, character 43 (decimal number

Re: Fedora-21 firewall advice?

2015-01-20 Thread Dan Irwin
Personally, I'm somewhat amused. So the iptables scripts were broken. We all know that. Instead of fixing them, let's make a whole new firewalld thing! On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 7:56 AM, Ed Greshko ed.gres...@greshko.com wrote: On 01/19/15 05:32, Gordon Messmer wrote: On 01/18/2015 04:44 AM,

Re: End of 32-bit support?

2015-01-20 Thread Michael Cronenworth
On 01/20/2015 03:26 PM, Gordon Messmer wrote: The 64-bit platform supports 32-bit wine. You cannot run Win32 PE binaries with 64-bit wine. Wine does not emulate ( ;) ) arches. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options:

[solved] Re: special chars in gedit?

2015-01-20 Thread Dave Stevens
Quoting Doug dmcgarr...@optonline.net: On 01/20/2015 08:28 PM, Kevin Cummings wrote: On 01/20/2015 07:40 PM, Dave Stevens wrote: I need to use my notebook keyboard to insert a divide symbol, the kind with two dots and a horizontal line, it's ascii character 43 decimal. I According to *my*

Re: Two independent SSHD processes?

2015-01-20 Thread Ed Greshko
On 01/21/15 10:01, CLOSE Dave wrote: I have tried it. At least on an earlier Fedora with SysV. FWIW, the problem you're having with sshd and SysV has to do with how the init scripts are constructed. They source /etc/rc.d/init.d/functions which includes the functions pidfileofproc and

Re: special chars in gedit?

2015-01-20 Thread Kevin Cummings
On 01/20/2015 07:40 PM, Dave Stevens wrote: I need to use my notebook keyboard to insert a divide symbol, the kind with two dots and a horizontal line, it's ascii character 43 decimal. I According to *my* ASCII table, character 43 (decimal number 43) is a '+' sign Are you asking about the

Re: Two independent SSHD processes?

2015-01-20 Thread Ed Greshko
On 01/21/15 10:01, CLOSE Dave wrote: Ed Greshko wrote: But if you read the SSHD man page and the /etc/rc.d/init.d/sshd script, you'll find that the PID is always recorded at /var/run/sshd.pid and the PidFile variable is only used for reporting status. And if you tried it? [root@meimei

Re: End of 32-bit support?

2015-01-20 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 11:32 AM, Dave Ihnat wrote: It may seriously be time for Redhat to consider splitting Fedora into two distros--one tracking RHEL and continuing the role as testbed for RHEL, and the other taking up the role as an enthusiast's distro, and continuing to support the

Re: Two independent SSHD processes?

2015-01-20 Thread Ed Greshko
On 01/21/15 10:01, CLOSE Dave wrote: I'll try F21 soon. You probably will want to follow this procedure in F21 https://access.redhat.com/solutions/1166283 -- If you can't laugh at yourself, others will gladly oblige. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or

swapping the disk, with the operating system, using a clone made with CLONEZILLA

2015-01-20 Thread Angelo Moreschini
Hi, I already used successfully clonezilla to backup my OS (fedora). I did this (only for exercise til now) *restoring the OS on the original disk from which I had **take** the clone*. Now I wanted to use my clone to restore fedora on a virgin HD. (for security reasons, I did not want restore

Re: Xorg display locks after idle time

2015-01-20 Thread Alex Regan
Hi, I have a fedora21 box and periodically the display stops responding. The display on the monitor is blank, and trying to wake it again with the mouse or keyboard is not successful. I can VNC into the system, and while the screensaver is on with the clock in the center, the clock does

Re: Xorg display locks after idle time

2015-01-20 Thread Rick Stevens
On 01/20/2015 11:33 AM, Alex Regan wrote: Hi, I have a fedora21 box and periodically the display stops responding. The display on the monitor is blank, and trying to wake it again with the mouse or keyboard is not successful. I can VNC into the system, and while the screensaver is on with the

Re: Installing Cinnamon on f21 fails with dependency problems

2015-01-20 Thread Alex Regan
Hi, On 01/20/2015 01:34 AM, Michael Schwendt wrote: On Mon, 19 Jan 2015 18:00:29 -0500, Alex Regan wrote: Hi, I have a fedora21 workstation install with gnome3, and trying to replace the desktop with Cinnamon. Running 'yum groupinstall Cinnamon Desktop' results in the following # yum