Re: how to change emails [correction]

[Paul Allen Newell]

Ed (and anyone else who is seeing this):

This email got sent from my new email address and I apologize as I was 
trying to make sure I didn't use it on fedora lists until I had it 
switched in fedora's records. I am switching the from and cc (to me) 
back to the current (to be old email)


Changing emails after 20+ years is madness ...

Paul

On 01/15/2018 11:40 PM, Paul Allen Newell wrote:



On 01/15/2018 03:00 AM, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 01/15/18 16:40, Paul Allen Newell wrote:

Dear users@lists.fedoraproject.org:

I am in need of changing my email address to this list. I cannot see 
any easy way
to do this except for unsubscribing and then re-subscribing to this 
list. The
monthly email which confirms my email and passwd does not work when 
I try to use
it. And I am not easily seeing what the site is to "subscribe" as 
things are a bit

different now than in 2008 when I first subscribed.

I am sorry to have to bother the users@lists[...] with this question 
but my query
to u...@lists.fedoraproject.org about what to do just gave me a 
reply from
mailman-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org that pretty much was pure 
"composed by a

program" and had absolutely no useful info.


If you go to   https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/ and 
login you can then

go to

https://lists.fedoraproject.org/accounts/email/

And update your email address.




Ed:

Many thanks for replying.

Went to https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/ and tried to login. 
It told me "login and/or password you specified are not correct". 
Tried any passwords I have every used with Fedora and/or RedHat with 
no luck.


I note that I stopped getting updates from 
users@lists.fedoraproject.org in 2016 so I cannot confirm that I have 
correct info to log in. What is bothering me is that when I tell it I 
have forgotten my password and give it my email to send me something 
to reset, it says there is nobody who has that email. It is like 
somehow I don't exists except by grandfathering?


Best,
Paul

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Re: triple head

[Ed Greshko]

On 01/16/18 15:09, Frederic Muller wrote:
> On 01/16/2018 01:53 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
>> On 01/16/18 14:43, Frederic Muller wrote:
>>> yes I am running Wayland and constantly resize each application which 
>>> starts in
>>> fullscreen because it takes all the screen space while I'm happy to have 
>>> 3/4 apps
>>> visible on my screen.
>>>
>>> Screen sizes are:
>>> Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 5040 x 1920, maximum 8192 x 8192
>>> XWAYLAND0 connected 2560x1440+1280+237 (normal left inverted right x axis y 
>>> axis)
>>> 310mm x 170mm
>>>    2560x1440 59.96*+
>>> XWAYLAND1 connected 1200x1920+3840+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y 
>>> axis)
>>> 500mm x 310mm
>>>    1200x1920 59.95*+
>>> XWAYLAND2 connected 1280x1024+0+237 (normal left inverted right x axis y 
>>> axis)
>>> 340mm x 270mm
>>>    1280x1024 59.89*+
>>>
>>> Thank you.
>> Would you consider trying Xorg just to see if that changes anything?
>>
>>
> Sure. I'm off to (late) lunch now but I'll give it a try in the evening and 
> report
> back.
>
>

OK.   It is already 15:20 in my neck of the woods.

FWIW, I'm not much of a GNOME user. 


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Re: triple head

[Frederic Muller]

On 01/16/2018 01:53 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
> On 01/16/18 14:43, Frederic Muller wrote:
>> yes I am running Wayland and constantly resize each application which starts 
>> in
>> fullscreen because it takes all the screen space while I'm happy to have 3/4 
>> apps
>> visible on my screen.
>>
>> Screen sizes are:
>> Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 5040 x 1920, maximum 8192 x 8192
>> XWAYLAND0 connected 2560x1440+1280+237 (normal left inverted right x axis y 
>> axis)
>> 310mm x 170mm
>>    2560x1440 59.96*+
>> XWAYLAND1 connected 1200x1920+3840+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y 
>> axis)
>> 500mm x 310mm
>>    1200x1920 59.95*+
>> XWAYLAND2 connected 1280x1024+0+237 (normal left inverted right x axis y 
>> axis)
>> 340mm x 270mm
>>    1280x1024 59.89*+
>>
>> Thank you.
> Would you consider trying Xorg just to see if that changes anything?
>
>
Sure. I'm off to (late) lunch now but I'll give it a try in the evening
and report back.

Thank you.

Fred
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Re: triple head

[Ed Greshko]

On 01/16/18 14:43, Frederic Muller wrote:
> yes I am running Wayland and constantly resize each application which starts 
> in
> fullscreen because it takes all the screen space while I'm happy to have 3/4 
> apps
> visible on my screen.
>
> Screen sizes are:
> Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 5040 x 1920, maximum 8192 x 8192
> XWAYLAND0 connected 2560x1440+1280+237 (normal left inverted right x axis y 
> axis)
> 310mm x 170mm
>    2560x1440 59.96*+
> XWAYLAND1 connected 1200x1920+3840+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y 
> axis)
> 500mm x 310mm
>    1200x1920 59.95*+
> XWAYLAND2 connected 1280x1024+0+237 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)
> 340mm x 270mm
>    1280x1024 59.89*+
>
> Thank you.


Would you consider trying Xorg just to see if that changes anything?

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Re: triple head

[Frederic Muller]

On 01/16/2018 01:34 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
> On 01/16/18 13:49, Frederic Muller wrote:
>> On 01/16/2018 12:38 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
>>> On 01/16/18 13:24, Frederic Muller wrote:
 I recently added a 3rd screen to my setup (a laptop and 2 external screen, 
 one on
 each side) and since every single application or window from that 
 application opens
 in full screen. It was not behaving like this when I had only dual head. 
 Is this
 normal or is there some configuration to do which I missed?

 Or could it be a bug eventually?
>>> You need to describe your situation a bit more to add your video card, 
>>> driver in use,
>>> and desktop.  The answer may be different depending on your environment.
>>>
>>> Also, when you say "full screen" to you mean it opens fully in one of the 3 
>>> screens
>>> or does the application open in a window that spans all screens?
>>>
>> oops, sorry I didn't think about that. So the video card is a Intel® HD 
>> Graphics
>> 5500 (Broadwell GT2) on a Thinkpad X1 carbon using GNOME. Not sure which 
>> drivers
>> are running or how to find out.
>> Then full screen is full screen on one screen only and actually on the 
>> screen with
>> the top "menu" bar because that is very the apps open when launching from 
>> the side
>> dock or elsewhere actually. Screen resoltion is 2560x1440 so there is enough 
>> space
>> to open nautilus or thunderbird not fullscreen.
>>
>> Anything else which could help?
>>
> I see.  Well I just started Gnome in a Virtual Box VM after giving it 3 
> screens.  I
> do not see what you're seeing.  Since this is a VM I can only run Gnome Xorg 
> and not
> Wayland.  Do you know which you are running?
>
> Also, the applications are starting at the size when they were last closed.  
> So, if I
> right-click on the menu bar of the app and pick Maximize it will start 
> Maximized the
> next time it is started.  If I Unmaximize it, it will then start at whatever 
> size the
> window was when it was unmaximized.  (Hope that isn't confusing)
>
> FWIW, the sizes of my 3 screens are
>
> Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 4936 x 1279, maximum 16384 x 16384
> VGA-1 connected primary 2488x1279+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y 
> axis) 0mm
> x 0mm
>    2488x1279 59.99*+
>
> VGA-2 connected 1304x799+2488+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 
> 0mm x 0mm
>    1304x799  59.96*+
>
> VGA-3 connected 1144x796+3792+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 
> 0mm x 0mm
>    1144x796  59.95*+
>
>
yes I am running Wayland and constantly resize each application which
starts in fullscreen because it takes all the screen space while I'm
happy to have 3/4 apps visible on my screen.

Screen sizes are:
Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 5040 x 1920, maximum 8192 x 8192
XWAYLAND0 connected 2560x1440+1280+237 (normal left inverted right x
axis y axis) 310mm x 170mm
   2560x1440 59.96*+
XWAYLAND1 connected 1200x1920+3840+0 (normal left inverted right x axis
y axis) 500mm x 310mm
   1200x1920 59.95*+
XWAYLAND2 connected 1280x1024+0+237 (normal left inverted right x axis y
axis) 340mm x 270mm
   1280x1024 59.89*+

Thank you.
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Re: triple head

[Ed Greshko]

On 01/16/18 13:49, Frederic Muller wrote:
> On 01/16/2018 12:38 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
>> On 01/16/18 13:24, Frederic Muller wrote:
>>> I recently added a 3rd screen to my setup (a laptop and 2 external screen, 
>>> one on
>>> each side) and since every single application or window from that 
>>> application opens
>>> in full screen. It was not behaving like this when I had only dual head. Is 
>>> this
>>> normal or is there some configuration to do which I missed?
>>>
>>> Or could it be a bug eventually?
>> You need to describe your situation a bit more to add your video card, 
>> driver in use,
>> and desktop.  The answer may be different depending on your environment.
>>
>> Also, when you say "full screen" to you mean it opens fully in one of the 3 
>> screens
>> or does the application open in a window that spans all screens?
>>
> oops, sorry I didn't think about that. So the video card is a Intel® HD 
> Graphics
> 5500 (Broadwell GT2) on a Thinkpad X1 carbon using GNOME. Not sure which 
> drivers
> are running or how to find out.
> Then full screen is full screen on one screen only and actually on the screen 
> with
> the top "menu" bar because that is very the apps open when launching from the 
> side
> dock or elsewhere actually. Screen resoltion is 2560x1440 so there is enough 
> space
> to open nautilus or thunderbird not fullscreen.
>
> Anything else which could help?
>

I see.  Well I just started Gnome in a Virtual Box VM after giving it 3 
screens.  I
do not see what you're seeing.  Since this is a VM I can only run Gnome Xorg 
and not
Wayland.  Do you know which you are running?

Also, the applications are starting at the size when they were last closed.  
So, if I
right-click on the menu bar of the app and pick Maximize it will start 
Maximized the
next time it is started.  If I Unmaximize it, it will then start at whatever 
size the
window was when it was unmaximized.  (Hope that isn't confusing)

FWIW, the sizes of my 3 screens are

Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 4936 x 1279, maximum 16384 x 16384
VGA-1 connected primary 2488x1279+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y 
axis) 0mm
x 0mm
   2488x1279 59.99*+

VGA-2 connected 1304x799+2488+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 0mm 
x 0mm
   1304x799  59.96*+

VGA-3 connected 1144x796+3792+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 0mm 
x 0mm
   1144x796  59.95*+


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Re: triple head

[Frederic Muller]

On 01/16/2018 12:38 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
> On 01/16/18 13:24, Frederic Muller wrote:
>> I recently added a 3rd screen to my setup (a laptop and 2 external screen, 
>> one on
>> each side) and since every single application or window from that 
>> application opens
>> in full screen. It was not behaving like this when I had only dual head. Is 
>> this
>> normal or is there some configuration to do which I missed?
>>
>> Or could it be a bug eventually?
> You need to describe your situation a bit more to add your video card, driver 
> in use,
> and desktop.  The answer may be different depending on your environment.
>
> Also, when you say "full screen" to you mean it opens fully in one of the 3 
> screens
> or does the application open in a window that spans all screens?
>
oops, sorry I didn't think about that. So the video card is a Intel® HD
Graphics 5500 (Broadwell GT2) on a Thinkpad X1 carbon using GNOME. Not
sure which drivers are running or how to find out.
Then full screen is full screen on one screen only and actually on the
screen with the top "menu" bar because that is very the apps open when
launching from the side dock or elsewhere actually. Screen resoltion is
2560x1440 so there is enough space to open nautilus or thunderbird not
fullscreen.

Anything else which could help?

Thank you.

Fred
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Re: triple head

[Ed Greshko]

On 01/16/18 13:24, Frederic Muller wrote:
> I recently added a 3rd screen to my setup (a laptop and 2 external screen, 
> one on
> each side) and since every single application or window from that application 
> opens
> in full screen. It was not behaving like this when I had only dual head. Is 
> this
> normal or is there some configuration to do which I missed?
>
> Or could it be a bug eventually?


You need to describe your situation a bit more to add your video card, driver 
in use,
and desktop.  The answer may be different depending on your environment.

Also, when you say "full screen" to you mean it opens fully in one of the 3 
screens
or does the application open in a window that spans all screens?

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triple head

[Frederic Muller]

Hi!

I recently added a 3rd screen to my setup (a laptop and 2 external
screen, one on each side) and since every single application or window
from that application opens in full screen. It was not behaving like
this when I had only dual head. Is this normal or is there some
configuration to do which I missed?

Or could it be a bug eventually?

Thank  you.

Fre
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Re: Samba version woes

[Cameron Simpson]

On 15Jan2018 22:57, Patrick O'Callaghan  wrote:

On Tue, 2018-01-16 at 08:17 +1100, Cameron Simpson wrote:

Last year we bought an HP Proliant G8. It has a cool cubic form mactor with 4
3.5" SATA drive bays. And an internal SD slot. We've got 2 8TB WD Red drives in
it in RAID1, the OS on the SD card and /home on a 250GB SSD. That leaves 2 more
drive bays for expansion/transfer/migration some time.


Nice, though probably overkill for me.


The proliant itself was pretty cheap, and we wanted the drive bays even though 
we're only using 2 right now.  They come in a few flavours.  They only have 2 
DIMM slots, so if you want to upgrade the RAM (we did) you have to replace the 
memory it comes with.  And if you upgrade the RAM, pay careful attention to 
buffered vs unbuffered - we screwed up, to our cost.



Regarding backup for the server, we have a pair of 2TB WD MyPassport USB 3.0
bus powered drives. One stays ion all the time, getting nightly backups. The
other lives in a drawer, and we plug it in every so often to update its backup.
That gets us nightly backup resolution plus an offline isolated backup in case
of the OS getting comprimised, which could lead to the main backup being
comprimised.


So you backup 8TB on a 2TB drive? I guess most media server files don't
really need backing up as you can always get them again. I don't back
them up myself.


I'm on the end of a wet piece of string. And our media server is not full. It 
will become an issue at some point, but I have a complex plan for that.


[...]

Thanks for the input. I've now got the NFS+Samba combo working, after
some head-banging until I figured out the SElinux parameters I needed
to change (could this *be* more obscure? no meaningful error messages
in the Samba log until I Googled them and a light dawned).


On of the features of SELinux is that apps don't know what's wrong. Perfectly 
configured permissions etc simply don't work. I can't describe how happy that 
makes me.


Cheers,
Cameron Simpson  (formerly c...@zip.com.au)
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Re: Samba version woes

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Tue, 2018-01-16 at 08:17 +1100, Cameron Simpson wrote:
> Last year we bought an HP Proliant G8. It has a cool cubic form mactor with 4 
> 3.5" SATA drive bays. And an internal SD slot. We've got 2 8TB WD Red drives 
> in 
> it in RAID1, the OS on the SD card and /home on a 250GB SSD. That leaves 2 
> more 
> drive bays for expansion/transfer/migration some time.

Nice, though probably overkill for me.

> Regarding backup for the server, we have a pair of 2TB WD MyPassport USB 3.0 
> bus powered drives. One stays ion all the time, getting nightly backups. The 
> other lives in a drawer, and we plug it in every so often to update its 
> backup.  
> That gets us nightly backup resolution plus an offline isolated backup in 
> case 
> of the OS getting comprimised, which could lead to the main backup being 
> comprimised.

So you backup 8TB on a 2TB drive? I guess most media server files don't
really need backing up as you can always get them again. I don't back
them up myself.

> My personal laptop is a Mac, backuped with TimeMachine to a WD MyPassport, 
> which also lives in a drawer for the same reason.
> 
> Why RAID1 in the server? For rescue: either drive from a RIAD1 pair can just 
> be 
> plugged into another machine and used standalone for recovery etc - just hand 
> mount things. RAID5 would use more drive slots (the G8 has 4) and be more 
> painful in a disaster.

Yes, RAID1 saved me twice when those Seagates failed, luckily not both
at once.

Thanks for the input. I've now got the NFS+Samba combo working, after
some head-banging until I figured out the SElinux parameters I needed
to change (could this *be* more obscure? no meaningful error messages
in the Samba log until I Googled them and a light dawned).

poc
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Re: Thunderbird freezes machine [SOLVED]

[Ed Greshko]

On 01/16/18 05:34, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> On Mon, 2018-01-15 at 16:04 -0500, David A. De Graaf wrote:
>> But WHY this happened - I suppose is unknowable.  I discovered that 
>> thunderbird, because it is using IMAP, creates and maintains copies of 
>> all the mail that exists in the primary files on the server: 
>> /var/mail/dad, plus the archives in ~/Mail/*.  That seems like a REALLY 
>> NUTTY design.
> I haven't used TBird in years but it does seem nutty. Are you sure it
> isn't a config option? Evolution doesn't do this by default (though you
> can configure it that way if you want), and I suspect Claws and other
> IMAP clients don't either.
>

Indeed there are configuration options.  Under the Accounts--->Account
Name--->Synchronization  Lots of options there.  From not storing any
messages locally to choosing what folder to keep locally.  Also many choices 
for how
many messages and/or age of messages to keep.

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Re: Thunderbird freezes machine [SOLVED]

[Ed Greshko]

On 01/16/18 05:04, David A. De Graaf wrote:
> But WHY this happened - I suppose is unknowable.  I discovered that 
> thunderbird,
> because it is using IMAP, creates and maintains copies of all the mail that 
> exists
> in the primary files on the server: /var/mail/dad, plus the archives in 
> ~/Mail/*. 
> That seems like a REALLY NUTTY design.  If TB were running on a remote 
> machine,
> yes, it would make sense to reduce communication bandwidth.  But in this 
> case, TB
> is running on the same machine that contains the primary email files.
>
> With all the attendant copying of files it is unsurprising that the duplicate 
> IMAP
> files got screwed up.
>
> If only there were a way to make thunderbird use the native email files, as 
> mutt
> does, this problem wouldn't occur.


For your IMAP accounts, explore the "Storage and Synchronization"  settings

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Re: Thunderbird freezes machine [SOLVED]

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Mon, 2018-01-15 at 16:04 -0500, David A. De Graaf wrote:
> But WHY this happened - I suppose is unknowable.  I discovered that 
> thunderbird, because it is using IMAP, creates and maintains copies of 
> all the mail that exists in the primary files on the server: 
> /var/mail/dad, plus the archives in ~/Mail/*.  That seems like a REALLY 
> NUTTY design.

I haven't used TBird in years but it does seem nutty. Are you sure it
isn't a config option? Evolution doesn't do this by default (though you
can configure it that way if you want), and I suspect Claws and other
IMAP clients don't either.

poc
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Re: Samba version woes

[Cameron Simpson]

On 15Jan2018 12:01, Patrick O'Callaghan  wrote:

On Mon, 2018-01-15 at 11:07 +1100, Cameron Simpson wrote:

On 14Jan2018 23:25, Patrick O'Callaghan  wrote:
> On further study, I strongly suspect my mods to the config file are
> being overwritten on reboot. Apparently the NAS has firmware that
> restores basic stuff from a read-only partition on booting.

Does it have a persistent rc.local or cron (thinking @reboot here)? We've got a
PVR with that kind of behaviour (custom hacks vanishing on reboot).


It's sneakier than that. Much of the root filesystem, including the
directory where the default apps live, is read-only. I've tried
remounting rw as a loopback to make changes but haven't quite got it
right yet. Something else seems to be going on.


Yay.


As a final suggestion, have you got a home linux server that's always on? If
you get nowhere with Samba on the NAS, there's always NFS from the NAS to your
server, then Samba from there. That way you'd have control over the Samba
software.


I only have my desktop, but that would be Plan C. The irony is that I'm
using Samba purely because I need a backup for my Windows VM, which is
running on the same desktop.

Plan B is to jigger Windows 10 to accept SMB1 as it used to before the
recent updates. I'm aware of the risks but apparently it's possible.

Plan D is to junk the thing and loot it for the drives (I've already
replaced the original Seagates, both of which failed, with two decent
1TB WD units). Realistically I don't think I need a NAS any more. It
used to be my media server but got too slow for that so now it's just a
backup server. I might just stick the drives in my main machine in a
RAID format and keep using them for backup.


Yeah, we went that way. We were using a WD Live drive as our media server and 
had a tiny cheap machine as the home server (email, DNS, etc). Our PVR is Linux 
and NFS mounts the media server so we've got one main playback device.


Like your NAS, both the WD Live and the tiny server were underpowered.

Last year we bought an HP Proliant G8. It has a cool cubic form mactor with 4 
3.5" SATA drive bays. And an internal SD slot. We've got 2 8TB WD Red drives in 
it in RAID1, the OS on the SD card and /home on a 250GB SSD. That leaves 2 more 
drive bays for expansion/transfer/migration some time.


Regarding backup for the server, we have a pair of 2TB WD MyPassport USB 3.0 
bus powered drives. One stays ion all the time, getting nightly backups. The 
other lives in a drawer, and we plug it in every so often to update its backup.  
That gets us nightly backup resolution plus an offline isolated backup in case 
of the OS getting comprimised, which could lead to the main backup being 
comprimised.


My personal laptop is a Mac, backuped with TimeMachine to a WD MyPassport, 
which also lives in a drawer for the same reason.


Why RAID1 in the server? For rescue: either drive from a RIAD1 pair can just be 
plugged into another machine and used standalone for recovery etc - just hand 
mount things. RAID5 would use more drive slots (the G8 has 4) and be more 
painful in a disaster.


Cheers,
Cameron Simpson  (formerly c...@zip.com.au)
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Re: Thunderbird freezes machine [SOLVED]

[Joe Zeff]

On 01/15/2018 01:04 PM, David A. De Graaf wrote:
If only there were a way to make thunderbird use the native email files, 
as mutt does, this problem wouldn't occur.


Have it use POP3 instead, deleting the messages from the "server" when 
you download them.  Yes, that takes up a little bit more disk space, but 
with today's disk sizes, that shouldn't be an issue.

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Re: Thunderbird freezes machine [SOLVED]

[David A. De Graaf]

On 01/14/18 17:57, David A. De Graaf wrote:

I have a weird and puzzling problem with thunderbird on my main
computer, running Fedora 26 (waiting for resolution before updating).
If I so much as touch an attachment to a received email, the machine
freezes.


My problem is solved, sort-of.

With the aid of strace I saw that the stoppage seems to occur when 
trying to access a file in my ~/.thunderbird directory structure.  So, 
in true bull in the china shop fashion, I deleted that entire directory 
(set it aside), and restarted thunderbird. I had to recreate all my 
email accounts from scratch, but it ran and I was able to correctly 
access the attachments that previously caused machine freezeup.


But WHY this happened - I suppose is unknowable.  I discovered that 
thunderbird, because it is using IMAP, creates and maintains copies of 
all the mail that exists in the primary files on the server: 
/var/mail/dad, plus the archives in ~/Mail/*.  That seems like a REALLY 
NUTTY design.  If TB were running on a remote machine, yes, it would 
make sense to reduce communication bandwidth.  But in this case, TB is 
running on the same machine that contains the primary email files.


With all the attendant copying of files it is unsurprising that the 
duplicate IMAP files got screwed up.


If only there were a way to make thunderbird use the native email files, 
as mutt does, this problem wouldn't occur.


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Re: usb wifi dongle for f27

[JD]

Thanx. Will try it.

On 01/15/2018 09:45 AM, Joost wrote:

tp-link TL-WN823N

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Re: usb wifi dongle for f27

[Joost]

My tp-link TL-WN823N works on F27 out-of-the-box. It's 2.4GHz only and
costs about 13 €.

On Sun, Jan 14, 2018 at 8:20 PM, JD  wrote:

>
>
> On 01/14/2018 10:42 AM, Tom Horsley wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 14 Jan 2018 10:11:57 -0700
>> JD wrote:
>>
>> Could you or someone list some chipsets (even legacy ones)
>>> that are very likely fully supported by f27 distribution iso
>>> right out of the box.\
>>>
>> Well, I've got this one in my F27 desktop at work providing
>> wifi for my phone and tablet acting as an access point:
>>
>> Bus 002 Device 003: ID 0411:01a2 BUFFALO INC. (formerly MelCo., Inc.)
>> WLI-UC-GNM Wireless LAN Adapter [Ralink RT8070]
>>
>> It is a cute little thing, just a tad bigger than the USB
>> slot it is plugged into.
>>
>> You can probably guess some more by looking in the
>> kernel modules directories at:
>>
>> /usr/lib/modules/*/kernel/drivers/net/wireless
>>
> I looked at older installations I have, and I am shocked to see they
> contain the b43 and b43legacy  wireless drivers.
> How come they did not make it into f27
>
> See below:
>
> $ find /lib/modules/ -name b43\*
> /lib/modules/3.19.8-100.fc20.x86_64/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/b43
> /lib/modules/3.19.8-100.fc20.x86_64/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/b43/b43.ko
> /lib/modules/3.19.8-100.fc20.x86_64/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/b43legacy
> /lib/modules/3.19.8-100.fc20.x86_64/kernel/drivers/net/wirel
> ess/b43legacy/b43legacy.ko
> /lib/modules/3.11.10-301.fc20.x86_64/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/b43
> /lib/modules/3.11.10-301.fc20.x86_64/kernel/drivers/net/wire
> less/b43/b43.ko
> /lib/modules/3.11.10-301.fc20.x86_64/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/b43legacy
> /lib/modules/3.11.10-301.fc20.x86_64/kernel/drivers/net/wire
> less/b43legacy/b43legacy.ko
>
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Re: Samba version woes

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Sun, 2018-01-14 at 20:52 -0500, Bill Shirley wrote:
> Does your NAS configuration have a GUI front-end?  Perhaps it has a Samba
> config template that it applies the GUI changes to to create the actual 
> smb.conf.

It does have a GUI, but the Samba options are extremely limited.

> Do you have shell access? Does it have the 'locate' command so that you can
> find this template and change it?

Yes, but the template is restored from a read-only partition on boot.

> Does it have cron running so that you could run 'patch' to apply your changes
> to the working smb.conf?

It does have 'cron'. I'll take a look at that, thanks (assuming it lets
me changes the crontab).

poc
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Re: Samba version woes

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Mon, 2018-01-15 at 11:07 +1100, Cameron Simpson wrote:
> On 14Jan2018 23:25, Patrick O'Callaghan  wrote:
> > On further study, I strongly suspect my mods to the config file are
> > being overwritten on reboot. Apparently the NAS has firmware that
> > restores basic stuff from a read-only partition on booting.
> 
> Does it have a persistent rc.local or cron (thinking @reboot here)? We've got 
> a 
> PVR with that kind of behaviour (custom hacks vanishing on reboot).

It's sneakier than that. Much of the root filesystem, including the
directory where the default apps live, is read-only. I've tried
remounting rw as a loopback to make changes but haven't quite got it
right yet. Something else seems to be going on.

> > This will
> > require some hackery to sort out, but doesn't seem to be anything
> > directly related to Samba (nor to Fedora of course), so I won't pursue
> > it here for now.
> > 
> > Thanks to everyone who tried to help.
> 
> As a final suggestion, have you got a home linux server that's always on? If 
> you get nowhere with Samba on the NAS, there's always NFS from the NAS to 
> your 
> server, then Samba from there. That way you'd have control over the Samba 
> software.

I only have my desktop, but that would be Plan C. The irony is that I'm
using Samba purely because I need a backup for my Windows VM, which is
running on the same desktop.

Plan B is to jigger Windows 10 to accept SMB1 as it used to before the
recent updates. I'm aware of the risks but apparently it's possible.

Plan D is to junk the thing and loot it for the drives (I've already
replaced the original Seagates, both of which failed, with two decent
1TB WD units). Realistically I don't think I need a NAS any more. It
used to be my media server but got too slow for that so now it's just a
backup server. I might just stick the drives in my main machine in a
RAID format and keep using them for backup.

poc
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Re: how to change emails

[Ed Greshko]

On 01/15/18 16:40, Paul Allen Newell wrote:
> Dear users@lists.fedoraproject.org:
>
> I am in need of changing my email address to this list. I cannot see any easy 
> way
> to do this except for unsubscribing and then re-subscribing to this list. The
> monthly email which confirms my email and passwd does not work when I try to 
> use
> it. And I am not easily seeing what the site is to "subscribe" as things are 
> a bit
> different now than in 2008 when I first subscribed.
>
> I am sorry to have to bother the users@lists[...] with this question but my 
> query
> to u...@lists.fedoraproject.org about what to do just gave me a reply from
> mailman-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org that pretty much was pure "composed 
> by a
> program" and had absolutely no useful info.


If you go to   https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/   and login you 
can then
go to

https://lists.fedoraproject.org/accounts/email/

And update your email address.

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how to change emails

[Paul Allen Newell]

Dear users@lists.fedoraproject.org:

I am in need of changing my email address to this list. I cannot see any 
easy way to do this except for unsubscribing and then re-subscribing to 
this list. The monthly email which confirms my email and passwd does not 
work when I try to use it. And I am not easily seeing what the site is 
to "subscribe" as things are a bit different now than in 2008 when I 
first subscribed.


I am sorry to have to bother the users@lists[...] with this question but 
my query to u...@lists.fedoraproject.org about what to do just gave me a 
reply from mailman-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org that pretty much was 
pure "composed by a program" and had absolutely no useful info.


Thanks in advance,
Paul
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