Re: HP elitedesk 705 G1 mt will not boot from dvd

2024-03-25 Thread Tim via users
Thomas Cameron wrote: >> I've actually set up my Linux machines so that they mount /home on an >> NFS file server in my home office. I can nuke my desktop and reinstall >> it in less than 10 minutes with a kickstart, and my home directory is >> unchanged. Makes it a lot easier when I do the inev

Re: VDQ finding dnf names

2024-03-26 Thread Tim via users
On Tue, 2024-03-26 at 16:41 +, Beartooth wrote: > I normally have two or three browsers open. Most have been > installed for so long I no longer remember what dnf calls them. > > My wife, who also runs F39, has been having trouble with the ones > she has, and I have yet to g

Re: VDQ finding dnf names

2024-03-26 Thread Tim via users
On Tue, 2024-03-26 at 17:58 +, Beartooth wrote: > Sure enough, my own machine has (with apologies for formatting): > > btth@localhost:~$ cd /etc/yum.repos.d > btth@localhost:/etc/yum.repos.d$ ls > brave-browser-rpm-release.s3.brave.com_x86_64_.repo google-chrome.repo > _copr:copr.fe

Re: HP elitedesk 705 G1 mt will not boot from dvd

2024-03-26 Thread Tim via users
Tim: >> Brute force and ignorance is a tried and tested method. Trying to be >> clever with boot menus, and carefully selecting specific partitions >> while installing, often goes awry. Not to mention the times you come >> across an installer that only wants to do a full takeover of your >> insta

Re: After having updated nvidia drivers, cannot start obs

2024-03-30 Thread Tim via users
On Sat, 2024-03-30 at 17:15 +, John Pilkington wrote: > The rpmfusion nvidia howto says it may take 5 minutes to build. That's > a long time to wait with no obvious progress during a reboot. Many years ago I had to put up with that (different hardware now). But, I didn't hide the textual bo

Re: failing https://lists.fedorahosted.org/admin/lists/freeotp-devel.lists.fedorahosted.org/

2024-04-08 Thread Tim via users
On Mon, 2024-04-08 at 10:57 +0200, Walter H. via users wrote: > always get 500 Loading that link is working fine here, too. I didn't try to log in, though. For what it's worth: Always put your *entire* message in the message body, don't split it across the subject line and the message. --

Re: systemd-networkd-wait-online times out

2024-04-09 Thread Tim via users
On Tue, 2024-04-09 at 22:12 -0400, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > I've been made aware that it takes two minutes for systemd-networkd-wait- > online.service to spin its wheels, before giving up with a squeal: > > Apr 09 22:03:30 shorty.email-scan.com systemd[1]: Starting > systemd-networkd-wait-online

Re: systemd-networkd-wait-online times out

2024-04-10 Thread Tim via users
On Tue, 2024-04-09 at 23:20 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote: > Perhaps more importantly, why can't that happen in the background? Why > does gdm care if the network is connected? It'd need to be *if* people are using a network share for their homespace, or other "expected to be there" directories. And

Re: systemd-networkd-wait-online times out

2024-04-11 Thread Tim via users
On Thu, 2024-04-11 at 07:59 -0400, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > What I do see, though, is that we have both NetworkManager-wait- > online and systemd-networkd-wait-online. Why do we need both of them? > > I simply disabled systemd-networkd-wait-online, and that seems to > solve the problem. NetworkMan

Re: how long does dnf system-upgrade take?

2024-04-14 Thread Tim via users
On Sun, 2024-04-14 at 09:49 -0400, Fulko Hew wrote: > Then in corporate life, I needed to ensure a stable development > environment. This is one of the big problems with computers in the work place. You may have single-task computers which you want to work, and not mess around with. You may have

Re: how long does dnf system-upgrade take?

2024-04-15 Thread Tim via users
Tim: >> Let's be clear, we're not talking about annoying changes to how the >> desktop looks, that can be put up with. But when you find essential >> software and/or hardware doesn't work anymore, or doesn't exist >> anymore, and support libraries are incompatible, that's a deal-breaker. >> >> It'

Re: The best way to still use Fedora + Xorg + Gnome ... even after version 40

2024-04-17 Thread Tim via users
On Wed, 2024-04-17 at 13:47 -0400, John Mellor wrote: > However, given that absolutely everyone today has compute power > on their desk and everyone has a gpu for things like compositing instead > of what was available back when X was designed Bullshit! -- NB: All unexpected mail to my mai

Re: Stuck at grub prompt after reordering partitions

2024-04-20 Thread Tim via users
Joe Zeff: >> In all the years I've been using Linux, I've never yet run across a .pdf >> file that Linux's default viewer couldn't read. What is it about those >> files that requires Windows to read? George N. White III: > a) fillable forms that explicitly say they must be completed using Windows

Re: The best way to still use Fedora + Xorg + Gnome ... even after version 40

2024-04-21 Thread Tim via users
On Sat, 2024-04-20 at 19:48 -0300, George N. White III wrote: > There are things Wayland won't permit (xeyes), and things that are yet to > implemented. No xeyes? Who doesn't want a pair of googlie eyes goofily staring at their mouse pointer? Actually, I do have a pair of them on this PC, I use

Re: Fedora 40 is available

2024-04-25 Thread Tim via users
On Thu, 2024-04-25 at 11:51 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > I've updated to F40. Everything works as expected, (I don't have an > Nvidia card at present so YMMV). I do have some comments on the new > KDE/Plasma but I'll post on the Fedora KDE list after a bit more > testing. Did that xv securi

Re: The best way to still use Fedora + Xorg + Gnome ... even after version 40

2024-04-25 Thread Tim via users
On Thu, 2024-04-25 at 16:00 -0500, Michael Hennebry wrote: > I'll bite: Wassa matter with xeyes? My guess would be that something monitoring mouse movements when those mouse movements could be related to another app is considered insecure. Well, *I* would consider it insecure if any app could see

Re: Fedora 40 is available

2024-04-25 Thread Tim via users
Tim: >>> Did that xv security issue get sorted out before the release? Patrick: >>AFAIK that was fixed almost immediately after it was announced. Kevin Fenzi: > You mean xz? xv was a pretty cool (but not open source) image viewer > back in the day. :) Yes, I did mean that. Oops... > as far a

Re: The best way to still use Fedora + Xorg + Gnome ... even after version 40

2024-04-25 Thread Tim via users
Tim: (re xeyes) >> My guess would be that something monitoring mouse movements when those >> mouse movements could be related to another app is considered insecure. >> Well, *I* would consider it insecure if any app could see what I was >> doing with the mouse at any time. Michael Hennebry: > Not

Re: can I clone from a usb flash drive to an NVMe drive?

2024-04-29 Thread Tim via users
On Mon, 2024-04-29 at 21:20 -0400, Go Canes wrote: > If you are worried about missing a software package, you can make a > list of installed rpms on the USB drive and use it to confirm the new > install isn't missing anything that was on the USB. When ever I did an install, any further packages I

Re: F40 and breaking file command change

2024-05-02 Thread Tim via users
George N. White III: > In some cases, "established behaviour" means text files using ASCII > character sets, which creates problems for the majority of the world, > and should be considered "broken".   In this day and age, we need to > pay attention to text encodings.   The notion of "plain text"

Re: F40 Live image boot failure

2024-05-04 Thread Tim via users
On Sat, 2024-05-04 at 08:28 -0300, George N. White III wrote: > Over the years, linux has had workarounds for hardware > idiosyncrasies. I think some of those workarounds are being dropped > or lost as support for newer hardware is added with new and improved > code. > > You should not be surprise

Re: F40 Live image boot failure

2024-05-04 Thread Tim via users
On Sat, 2024-05-04 at 22:32 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > "Support" isn't binary. I have a 10-year old MSI motherboard and get a > slew of ACPI errors every time I boot. They don't seem to affect > anything but they're there. I presume that a more modern mobo would > have fewer of these, if a

Re: What is Castor ? Att.Jonathan Billings.

2024-05-08 Thread Tim via users
On Tue, 2024-05-07 at 17:36 -0400, Jonathan Billings wrote: > Some home router/gateways will remember the hostname a system used as > part of their network, and when handing out the same IP to a new > host, re-uses the saved hostname. I've yet to come across a home gateway that handles name resolu

Re: What is Castor ? Att.Jonathan Billings.

2024-05-08 Thread Tim via users
On Wed, 2024-05-08 at 11:08 +0100, John Pilkington wrote: > It occurs to me that my new 'dual-boot' problems with F40 KDE might be > related to this, but I'm not clear how I could test it.  I've posted > both here and on the kde list. > > I have two screen-devices, HDMI tv and vga monitor.  By d

Re: statistics on Fedora and RHEL usage

2024-05-12 Thread Tim via users
ToddAndMargo: >> Anyone know of a source that gives the number of users of >> Fedora vs CentOS vs RHEL? George N. White III: > Anyone can make up numbers. There may be good numbers for RHEL > installations, but not numbers of users (at my former work lots of people > had RHEL logins that were r

Re: statistics on Fedora and RHEL usage

2024-05-13 Thread Tim via users
On Mon, 2024-05-13 at 05:35 -0700, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > One of the other things I like about remote assistance > software is that I can doodle on the screen.  I love to > make a YUGE red arrow to what they say does not exist > on their screens.  I love to hear them say "oh". I hate doin

Re: /boot too small

2024-05-14 Thread Tim via users
On Tue, 2024-05-14 at 08:27 -0700, richard emberson wrote: > Back on 05/03/2024 I posted the question: >    "How to increase size of /boot partition" > I had the same problem. > > As was noted by some, I had not upgraded for a long, long time: >    "This type of layout and partition sizes is ancie

Re: postfix fails to start on boot

2024-05-16 Thread Tim via users
On Thu, 2024-05-16 at 21:40 -0400, Alex wrote: > Hi, > I have a fedora38 server with postfix-3.7.9 (although this problem > has existed for a long time) that fails to start because I believe > the server has multiple interfaces. > > ifconfig shows just the primary ethernet interface, but "ip addr"

Re: What have I used too big a hammer on?

2024-05-17 Thread Tim via users
Tom Horsley: > So, my question is: How to override DNS the same way, but only for > my hardwired ethernet connection, while allowing me to disable that > connection and use my hotspot in time of comcast outage? > > Heck, it would be even better if I could use both at the same time, > the local eth

Re: MS Bitlocker Blue Screen on Reboot

2024-05-20 Thread Tim via users
On Mon, 2024-05-20 at 18:13 -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > I had a stubborn laptop like you are describing. I bought it new. I > could not update the UEFI or select a different boot device until I > booted into Windows and updated Windows. My takeaway was... some OEMs > seem to do some tying of the

Re: getting out of bridge mode

2024-05-22 Thread Tim via users
On Wed, 2024-05-22 at 00:33 -0700, Mike Wright wrote: > Now I don't see how that affects your inability to login to the router In bridge mode it's virtually a pass-through from input to output as direct as it can be, becoming just some kind of media converter (from ISP using fibre/cable/DSL to you

Re: getting out of bridge mode

2024-05-23 Thread Tim via users
On Thu, 2024-05-23 at 00:10 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote: > I would never suggest a hard reset of an internet modem since that is > highly likely to require ISP intervention afterwards, if not a return > and replacement. If it's an ISP-supplied one, it's a good chance that a hard reset will return t

Re: getting out of bridge mode

2024-05-23 Thread Tim via users
Tim: >> If it's an ISP-supplied one, it's a good chance that a hard reset >> will return things to the ISP-configuration rather than manufacturer's >> default. It's a risk, but that's the general way they work here >> (supplied pre-configured to suit their little foibles). Patrick O'Callaghan: >

Re: getting out of bridge mode

2024-05-23 Thread Tim via users
Tim: >> ISPs get a hard "NO" from me and have to be very forcefully moved >> onto the next step on their script... Patrick O'Callaghan: > Depends on the ISP. Mine (zen.co.uk), are a smallish outfit and their > tech support is very good. Any time I've had to call them I've been > able to quickly

Re: F40: strange network issue after upgrade of laptop from F39

2024-05-23 Thread Tim via users
On Thu, 2024-05-23 at 17:32 -0500, Ranjan Maitra via users wrote: > I have a strange issue after upgrading a laptop (Dell XPS 13, 2013 > edition). That is that I am connected (whether through WiFi or > ethernet cable) to a university network which claims after the > upgrade that the laptop is no lo

Re: F40: strange network issue after upgrade of laptop from F39

2024-05-24 Thread Tim via users
Tim: >> For some networks, it's simply going to be the DHCP server assigning >> you an IP to a MAC address it knows about (hardware details about your >> network). This will get messed up if your hardware supplies random MAC >> addresses each time it makes a connection. Ranjan Maitra: > I suspect

Re: F40: strange network issue after upgrade of laptop from F39

2024-05-24 Thread Tim via users
On Fri, 2024-05-24 at 11:02 -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > This smells of Captive Portal and MAC Randomizations. I had a ISP-supplied router that behaved that way. I'd continuously have to re-authenticate my phone with it. And I don't mean while going around the house using it, you could spend h

Re: Need system to run 24/7

2024-05-24 Thread Tim via users
On Fri, 2024-05-24 at 09:49 +1000, Michael D. Setzer II wrote: > These are the changes that I made to keep machine from not sleeping by the > default setting. > # cat /etc/systemd/sleep.conf > # This file is part of systemd. > # > # systemd is free software; you can redistribute it and/or modify

Re: Need system to run 24/7

2024-05-24 Thread Tim via users
On Thu, 2024-05-23 at 18:37 -0400, Robert McBroom via users wrote: > This thread has been on before but I lost it. I need my system to run > long simulations without my intervention. It keeps going to a reboot > intermittently. The program has recovery that all is not lost with a > shutdown but

Re: Need system to run 24/7

2024-05-26 Thread Tim via users
Tim: >> Is there a good write-up on this? Andre Robatino: > There's > https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/gnome-suspends-after-15-minutes-of-user-inactivity-even-on-ac-power/79801 > which I have bookmarked. > Yes, I've seen that. I've already linked to it in this thread. I meant that /etc

Re: Can't Boot 6.8.* Kernels

2024-05-26 Thread Tim via users
On Sun, 2024-05-26 at 18:57 +0100, Barry Scott wrote: > Try removing rhgb and quiet options from the kernel command line by edit it > in grub. > Do you see more information? I can't see any reason to keep those options, at all. Unless you like staring at a screen wondering what's going on while

Re: Trying to get drupal running

2024-05-29 Thread Tim via users
On Tue, 2024-05-28 at 07:37 -0400, Jonathan Billings wrote: > One thing that’ll interfere is that the httpd process might not have > permission to read the files, and that you need to add the right UNIX > groups to the files and directories. Just to add: The right permission should be owned by t

Re: 2 installations on the same PC - Add partition in Ftab

2024-05-29 Thread Tim via users
Mike Wright wrote: >> The mount point doesn't exist. Create it: >> >>mkdir -p /run/media/soles_40/desde_fedora_37 Samuel Sieb: > /run is a tmpfs area. That mount point will only persist until the next > reboot. It would be better to make a mount point somewhere permanent. Also, isn't /ru

Re: Please stop hijacking /etc/resolv.conf

2024-05-31 Thread Tim via users
On Fri, 2024-05-31 at 08:53 -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > Interesting. So, the only thing I see that requires systemd-resolved > is anaconda-core. However, systemd itself has a 'recommends' for it, > so perhaps thats what pulled it back in? > > So, possibly keeping it installed, but masked is a bett

Re: Please stop hijacking /etc/resolv.conf

2024-06-02 Thread Tim via users
Tim: >> Is Anaconda more than just the OS installer, now? Is it needed post- >> install? Kevin Fenzi: > No, it's not needed. It's somewhat of a historical artifact of the way > some installs work that it's there. There was some talk about it > removing itself at the end, but I am not sure where t

Re: grub2-install

2024-06-03 Thread Tim via users
On Mon, 2024-06-03 at 13:53 +0200, Patrick Dupre via users wrote: > I wish to add that efibootmgr does not list the sdc3 installation. By default, it'll only show the boot options that installations have entered into it. If your install didn't do that, you can add entries, yourself. Have a look

Re: Skype rpms discontinued

2024-06-04 Thread Tim via users
On Tue, 2024-06-04 at 11:21 +0100, Paul Smith wrote: > Recently, the linux rpm distribution of skype has been discontinued: > > https://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?332743-Updates-hang-on-skype&p=1883992 > > Is there some alternative to using snap or web-skype > > https://snapcraft.io/i

Re: grub2-install

2024-06-04 Thread Tim via users
On Mon, 2024-06-03 at 15:59 +0200, Patrick Dupre via users wrote: > With your message we lost the thread. The thread is there. You're not supposed to keep quoting every prior reply when you respond to messages. Messages become huge and unreadable messes. You're supposed to reply to the bits you

Re: grub2-mkconfig

2024-06-05 Thread Tim via users
On Wed, 2024-06-05 at 13:37 +0200, Patrick Dupre via users wrote: > Sorry for all this mail exchanges for a simple thing. Multi-boot isn't a simple thing, there's a lot of hurdles. If you needed to ask, you needed to ask. That's what the list is for. -- NB: All unexpected mail to my mailbo

Re: Thunderbird - Wayland / other apps

2024-06-17 Thread Tim via users
On Mon, 2024-06-17 at 08:13 +1000, Stephen Morris wrote: > I'm not sure this is helpful, but it may be an attempt to emulate > windows. I have a similar issue under Windows 10 where all apps, not > relative to the screen saver, when minimised and subsequently > maximised display on the monitor conf

Re: Interesting mount problem - F40

2024-06-18 Thread Tim via users
On Tue, 2024-06-18 at 11:40 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote: > Using dd to back up a disk leaves the copy with the exact same UUID > as the source. So it is just down to random timing and order of > operations as to which disk it will choose, so using /dev/sda > instead of UUID is one possible solution, b

Re: password issue with f40

2024-06-20 Thread Tim via users
On Thu, 2024-06-20 at 00:30 -0500, Michael Hennebry wrote: > I just discovered something interesting: > None of the accounts on my machine will login with Xorg. > The option is offered, but is does not work. In what sense, *exactly*, "does not work"? I remember an old X problem where you'd try to

Re: password issue with f40

2024-06-20 Thread Tim via users
Tim: >> In what sense, *exactly*, "does not work"? Michael Hennebry wrote: > I could not login. > The screen would blink. > Sometimes I would briefly see a cursor. > I'd be back at the login screen. Very similar to what happened to me, though could be coincidental. I'd occasionally get the same

Re: crond

2024-06-22 Thread Tim via users
On Sat, 2024-06-22 at 23:02 +0200, Patrick Dupre via users wrote: > Even if I remove the x right ? That kind of thing will always depend on how a script is handled. If it's run directly by a shell, then the shell *may* care about eXecute bit. Likewise, if its *run* by a handler. But if it's ess

Re: Firefox foul ups

2024-06-22 Thread Tim via users
On Sat, 2024-06-22 at 15:57 -0300, George N. White III wrote: > I generally keep the number external sites connected at one time to a single > digit. > I use No Script, and notice that, for many sites, the list of 3rd party sites > I have to > "temporarily trust" to make the site usable has grow

Re: Kernel 6.9.5-200.fc40 throws me into grub prompt on reboot

2024-06-23 Thread Tim via users
On Sat, 2024-06-22 at 23:54 -0400, Frank Bures wrote: > This is what my efibootmgr returns: > > root@ryzen:/# efibootmgr > BootCurrent: 0002 > Timeout: 1 seconds > BootOrder: 0002,,0001 > Boot Fedora > HD(1,GPT,e8838c34-c364-4347-afb7-1c516782b114,0x800,0x12c000)/\EFI\FEDORA\SHIMX64.EFI

Re: password issue with f40

2024-06-24 Thread Tim via users
On Mon, 2024-06-24 at 19:48 -0700, Mike Wright wrote: > I can't dissect a .rpm but I know how to dissect a .deb so I installed > totem onto Ubuntu 24.04 (latest release) so I could take it apart. You can open them in an archive manager (treating them the same as zip files, and various other arch

Re: password issue with f40

2024-06-26 Thread Tim via users
Michael Hennebry: >> Any ideas? Samuel Sieb: > I don't.  I usually use vlc, but I just tried totem (Videos) and it > played anything I tried, include h265. I found totem rather bad for playing some files, likewise with parole media player (what an awful name for a media player - and it nearly al

crazy dependencies

2024-06-29 Thread Tim via users
I'd like to know why this: dnf remove gstreamer1-plugins-bad-free-1.20.3-1.fc36.x86_64 gstreamer1- plugins-bad-free-extras-1.20.3-1.fc36.x86_64 gstreamer1-plugins-bad- freeworld-1.20.3-1.fc36.x86_64 Wants to do all of this (quoted below), it's a virtual system destruct for the want of removing so

Re: crazy dependencies

2024-06-30 Thread Tim via users
On Sat, 2024-06-29 at 13:35 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote: > I didn't notice this originally, but you're still on F36 and expecting > help with it?? Maybe you should try using something current instead of > trying to track down issues in discontinued software. It's more about the situation in genera

Re: crazy dependencies

2024-06-30 Thread Tim via users
Samuel Sieb: >> Do you have an actual example? > Bob Marčan: > Not right now. But I came across this. I'll post when it happens to me again. > BR, Bob That was why I posted what I did about Fedora 36 (because I had a cut and paste example immediately to hand). I'm sure that it's around a month

Re: crazy dependencies

2024-07-01 Thread Tim via users
Tim: > > evolution: error while loading shared libraries: libgsttranscoder- > > 1.0.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory > > > > Evolution did work on that system long before those gstreamer plugins > > were ever installed. And it works again after reinstalling them. I

Re: Latest upgrade KDE Wayland high CPU

2024-07-01 Thread Tim via users
On Thu, 2024-06-27 at 08:11 -0700, richard emberson wrote: > Never Mind. > Within 2 hours of posting the original post, Idle CPU usage settled down less > than 1% and > this morning it is still at less than 1%. > > Still its funny that Fedora/WayLand/KDE wanted to use so much CPU for the > first

Re: Local, system e-mails only delivered on reboot

2024-07-03 Thread Tim via users
On Wed, 2024-07-03 at 10:04 -0400, Tim Evans wrote: > Jul 03 09:45:07 kestrel sendmail[1526]: 45T7V2ou003307: > to=, delay=4+06:14:04, xdelay=00:00:00, > mailer=esmtp, pri=9500566, relay=kestrel.mynetworksettings.com., > dsn=4.4.1, stat=Deferred: Connection refused by > kestrel.mynetworksetting

Re: isues with f40 install

2024-07-04 Thread Tim via users
Mike Wright: > > I *think* that there can be only one /boot/efi partition on a disk. François Patte: > So how can we proceed when you want a dual (fedora/fedora, > fedora/debian, fedora.ubuntu) boot on the same disk? The idea is there is just one boot/efi on a system (even if you have multip

Fedora 40 Mate ALMOST can't be installed

2024-07-04 Thread Tim via users
I succeeded in the end, but this is a story about an annoying amount of pain that shouldn't have been necessary... You know, I'd like to try installing Fedora 40 (MATE spin), but found it almost impossible. The downloaded ISO couldn't be booted, whether DD'd to a flashdrive, or burnt to a DVD.

Re: isues with f40 install

2024-07-04 Thread Tim via users
Tim: > > EFI is its own partition, that will be mounted inside /boot when Linux > > boots. I'm not actually sure why that decision was made, I don't see > > why we couldn't have just had /EFI. I suppose someone wanted to hide > > all the boot things in /boot. On this PC, it's wierdly nested, so

Re: apache won't start after upgrade - read-only filesystem

2024-07-04 Thread Tim via users
On Thu, 2024-07-04 at 16:31 -0400, Alex wrote: > I've just upgraded from fedora38 to fedora39 and directly to fedora40 > and now apache won't start: > > (30)Read-only file system: AH00091: httpd: could not open error log > file /home/httpd/www.mysite.com/logs/error_log. > AH00015: Unable to open l

Re: apache won't start after upgrade - read-only filesystem

2024-07-04 Thread Tim via users
Tim: >> Why are you trying to write log files into your homespace? Alex: > It's a legacy system (think webalizer era), but there are also > multiple virtual hosts and it makes it easier to keep them segmented. > The document root is in /home/httpd/www.mysite.com/html. > > There's not enough space

Re: Fedora 40 Mate ALMOST can't be installed

2024-07-05 Thread Tim via users
Samuel Sieb: >> The writing is finished when dd exits, but the drive might keep flashing >> briefly after that. Or maybe the drive has some internal caching that >> it doesn't advertise (that would be very bad). Tide Ka: > Won't there be any kernel cache, so `sync` command is their for coping

Re: isues with f40 install

2024-07-05 Thread Tim via users
On Thu, 2024-07-04 at 18:09 +0200, François Patte wrote: > Should I understand that if you have a windows installation on a disk > with some (big) space left, you cannot install f40 as a dual boot > system? (because anaconda is unable to ignore the windows partition) It's been ages since I dual-

Re: Fedora 40 Mate ALMOST can't be installed

2024-07-05 Thread Tim via users
On Fri, 2024-07-05 at 06:36 -0700, Tide Ka via users wrote: > I have gone through man pages of `dd` and find executing `sync` right > after the writing finished may not be enabled by default. That requires > passing `oflag=sync` or passing nocache to `conv=`, but non of the above > is done in th

Re: make a bootable dvd

2024-07-08 Thread Tim via users
On Mon, 2024-07-08 at 17:01 +0200, François Patte wrote: > I downloaded the f40 iso for a worksation, but I did not see on the > fedora website how to burn a bootable DVD with this iso file This page has some doing it from the command line instructions: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/q

Re: OT: motherboard

2024-07-11 Thread Tim via users
On Thu, 2024-07-11 at 13:53 -0700, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > ASUS is almost impossible to get any presales support. Their > two phone numbers either hand up on yo or go to answering > machine. Their contact forms won't allow gmail or ]zoho mail. > They require you give them you gmail logon

Re: Remastering ISO filenames (was: make a bootable dvd)

2024-07-11 Thread Tim via users
Jeffrey Walton: >> ++. The firmware on my old Asus Q500a laptop wanted the efi filename >> in all lowercase -- EFI/BOOT/bootx64.efi instead of >> EFI/BOOT/BOOTx64.efi. The laptop would not boot to the DVD otherwise. >> The UEFI on the laptop was by a company called Aptio. On Thu, 2024-07-11 at 10

Re: OT: motherboard

2024-07-12 Thread Tim via users
On Fri, 2024-07-12 at 08:48 -0700, Todd Chester via users wrote: > All I get is rumors too. What I do know it > that the hardware requirements will be the same > as W11 plus the addition of an AI capable > processor. > > My current processor does not meet W11's > requirements. Oh, gourd no... AI

Re: Is there an equivalent of Ubuntu Pro for Fedora?

2024-07-14 Thread Tim via users
Bill Oliver wrote: > > I grew up on Red Hat/Fedora years ago, but moved to Ubuntu because > > some software I used was available in binary form only in that > > distro. Recently, I've moved back to Fedora. One thing i took > > advantage of when I was using Ubuntu was the free level one Ubuntu >

Re: Is there an equivalent of Ubuntu Pro for Fedora?

2024-07-15 Thread Tim via users
On Mon, 2024-07-15 at 11:08 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > Ironically, the most hidebound sites tend to be banks, which in my > experience don't even let you use a password manager (other than in > copy-paste mode), which is by far the best way for the average user to > get good non-repeating

Re: another f38->f40 issue: network if is renamed.

2024-07-15 Thread Tim via users
On Mon, 2024-07-15 at 10:09 +0100, Barry wrote: > The reason for the renaming is to ensure that the interface names are > consistent in every boot. It is an issue on some systems that an > interface may be eth0 on one boot the eth1 on the next. > > Consider using the new naming so you have stabili

Re: Is there an equivalent of Ubuntu Pro for Fedora?

2024-07-15 Thread Tim via users
Tim: > > I just looked for the obvious stupid one, there's probably other bad > > things in there. There's always been stupid advice, and people > > blithely go along with it. Bob Marčan: > Not only that. Different applications have different rules for > passwords: number of characters, special s

Re:

2024-07-15 Thread Tim via users
Tim: > > The phone companies have very crap security at preventing that (number > > transferring), and the banks are poor security at user identification > > confirmation (some are easily satisfied with being told just your name > > and birthdate over the phone). > > > > Many years ago I set up

Re: Is there an equivalent of Ubuntu Pro for Fedora?

2024-07-15 Thread Tim via users
On Mon, 2024-07-15 at 12:48 -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > And another spoiler from the book: Security Questions are insecure. No > one should be using them nowadays. We've known they are insecure for > 15 or 20 years or so. Yes! Security questions shouldn't ask you to provide them with details t

Re: Is there an equivalent of Ubuntu Pro for Fedora?

2024-07-15 Thread Tim via users
Tim: >> I wonder if anyone vets that information? Jonathan Billings: > Just check the references: > > https://static.open-scap.org/ssg-guides/ssg-fedora-guide-standard.html#xccdf_org.ssgproject.content_rule_accounts_maximum_age_login_defs > Although I picked a specific portion (about passwords

Re: Problems with certifcates, firefox and chrome

2024-07-15 Thread Tim via users
On Mon, 2024-07-15 at 17:16 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > To reiterate, when replying with HyperKitty, please quote some context. > HK doesn't do this automatically and many (most) of us are reading your > post on the mailing list rather than the web. Even on webpages, replies like that are

Re: another f38->f40 issue: network if is renamed.

2024-07-15 Thread Tim via users
fed...@eyal.emu.id.au wrote: > > If the name is assigned to a MAC then it will be stable regardless, on > > every boot. Barry: > This is not true. > The eth devices are numbered in the order they are discovered by the kernel. > That is why they can change on each boot if discovery timing has race

Re: another f38->f40 issue: network if is renamed.

2024-07-15 Thread Tim via users
Tim: > > For me, and probably everyone else, the solution would have been for > > some unique part of the hardware (such as MAC, or PCI slot data, etc), > > to get tied to eth0 during installation. Likewise for eth1, etc. > > Rather than used to create a gibberish name for it. Samuel Sieb: > The

Re:

2024-07-16 Thread Tim via users
Tim via users wrote: > > Never have our electoral processes asked for ID. They just ask your > > name and address, and cross you off a printed list. And I agree that > > it's a stunningly stupid way to run it. Also, our elections are > > *all* done by filli

Re: no sound on bluetooth headphones

2024-07-20 Thread Tim via users
Geoffrey Leach wrote: > > Using bluetooth on Fedora 40/xcfe4 for the first time > > > > Headphone pair OK > > Bluetooth is active and running > > Bluetooth Manager sees headphones > > Volume Control does not see the headphones > > > > Testing with mplayer foo.mp3; sound at speakers > > On Sat

Re: rkhunter flags /dev/shm/jack* files

2024-07-22 Thread Tim via users
On Mon, 2024-07-22 at 21:02 -0400, Jonathan Billings wrote: > /dev/shm is a tmpfs filesystem. Anything placed there is wiped after > shutdown. It doesn’t exist on the disk. > > Jack uses it for ephemeral files that only exist while it runs. > > While it’s possible to use %ghost in the rpm spec

Re: change the default dns on fedora 40

2024-07-23 Thread Tim via users
On Tue, 2024-07-23 at 14:31 +0200, François Patte wrote: > I try to change the default dns configured by my ISP on a fedora 40. > > Once upon a time it was easy: just change the file /etc/resolv.conf > now And if you try the method we've been told to use for the last several years, how d

Re: teal(?) messages during boot.

2024-07-24 Thread Tim via users
On Wed, 2024-07-24 at 09:15 -0600, home user via users wrote: > question #1 > How do I find these "teal" boot messages so I can actually see what > they're saying? "System Log", "Logs", "vim", "more", "less", "cat", > "gvim" all do not show color. (I'm using gnome.) Those colours will be set by

Re: teal(?) messages during boot.

2024-07-25 Thread Tim via users
Will McDonald wrote: > > Does it look anything like this image... > > > > https://redhat.discourse-cdn.com/fedoraproject/original/3X/3/c/3c95f957d2a3f8a99d11fe8e5c7007229f78ae6a.jpeg > > > >

Re: teal(?) messages during boot.

2024-07-26 Thread Tim via users
On Fri, 2024-07-26 at 13:16 -0600, home user via users wrote: > The term "plymouth" in this tread... brings to my mind: > * Plymouth Rock; > * some cities/towns and other geographic places (including Plymouth Rock); > * a car model (decades ago, for a short while, I drove a Plymouth Gold > Duster)

Re: teal(?) messages during boot.

2024-07-26 Thread Tim via users
On Fri, 2024-07-26 at 13:16 -0600, home user via users wrote: > 3 bits codes 8 colors: the 3 primaries, the 3 secondaries, white, and > black. 4 bits (1 nibble) adds 8 more colors: a dark version each of > the 8 3-bit colors. All goes back decades, to primitive color > devices. There are two odd

Re: NVMe questions

2024-07-27 Thread Tim via users
On Sat, 2024-07-27 at 19:40 -0600, Gabriel Ramirez wrote: > If you give the FAT file system a volume name (i.e. file system label), > be sure to name it something other than EFI. That can trigger a bug in > some firmwares (due to the volume name matching the EFI directory name) > that will cause

Re: teal(?) messages during boot.

2024-07-28 Thread Tim via users
Tim: > > There are two oddities in it, though: While obviously you can have > > dark or bright red. What do you do with white (111) and black (000)? > > Do you get two different greys to go with them? ;-) Yes, supposedly, > > but I remember that some terminals did odd things. home user: > I'm

Re: teal(?) messages during boot.

2024-07-28 Thread Tim via users
On Sun, 2024-07-28 at 20:56 -0600, home user via users wrote: > 1. correct or wrong: > During the boot process, before log-in becomes available, there is no > way to "freeze" and "unfreeze" the messages appearing on the monitor. It *used* to be possible to boot in a step-by-step mode, where it pau

compatible filesystems between Mac and Linux

2024-07-28 Thread Tim via users
Hi, If I wanted to use a USB hard drive between a Mac and Linux, what are the best choices of file systems that work well in both ways? Chiefly, I'm offloading edited video files from the Mac's drive that's filling up, that I want to keep for posterity. But it would be nice to be able to read an

Re: compatible filesystems between Mac and Linux

2024-07-29 Thread Tim via users
Tim: > > If I wanted to use a USB hard drive between a Mac and Linux, what are > > the best choices of file systems that work well in both ways? > > > > Chiefly, I'm offloading edited video files from the Mac's drive that's > > filling up, that I want to keep for posterity. But it would be nice t

Re: compatible filesystems between Mac and Linux

2024-07-29 Thread Tim via users
Tim: > > If I wanted to use a USB hard drive between a Mac and Linux, what are > > the best choices of file systems that work well in both ways? > > > > Chiefly, I'm offloading edited video files from the Mac's drive that's > > filling up, that I want to keep for posterity. But it would be nice t

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