Re: 4K monitors?

2014-07-04 Thread poma
DDC gathered Modelines: (II) NOUVEAU(0): Modeline 1920x1080x0.0 148.50 1920 2008 2052 2200 1080 1084 1089 1125 +hsync +vsync (67.5 kHz eP) (II) NOUVEAU(0): Modeline 1920x1080x60.0 172.80 1920 2040 2248 2576 1080 1081 1084 1118 -hsync +vsync (67.1 kHz e) resize called 1920 1080 poma

Re: 4K monitors?

2014-07-04 Thread poma
, ratio 16/9, 33 dpi) ModeLine 1360x768 85.5 1360 1424 1536 1792 768 771 777 795 +hsync +vsync BTW, respected Tom-Sung, how did you manage to insert additional ModeLine? poma -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https

Re: 4K monitors?

2014-07-04 Thread poma
On 05.07.2014 03:39, Tom Horsley wrote: On Sat, 05 Jul 2014 03:15:57 +0200 poma wrote: BTW, respected Tom-Sung, how did you manage to insert additional ModeLine? I don't think I did, I just edited the attributes of the existing info for the 1920x1080 mode lines I got from the dump

Re: why do we use systemd?

2014-07-05 Thread poma
From: Tom H https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2014/07/msg00172.html Why are you trolling both the Debian and Fedora lists with this nonsense simultaneously? ... Ref. [debian-user] why do we use systemd? https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2014/07/msg00144.html poma

Re: why do we use systemd?

2014-07-05 Thread poma
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Re: why do we use systemd?

2014-07-05 Thread poma
the only thing I can moan about is the lack of chkconfig --list Due to its complexity, do not expect too short directives like that. Instead utilize aliases, see Adrian's notes. By the way, what is 'chkconfig', anyway. poma -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe

Re: why do we use systemd?

2014-07-06 Thread poma
On 07/06/2014 07:33 AM, Balint Szigeti wrote: On Sun, 2014-07-06 at 06:49 +0200, poma wrote: From: Tom H https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2014/07/msg00172.html Why are you trolling both the Debian and Fedora lists with this nonsense simultaneously? ... Ref. [debian

Re: Network availability systemd dependency failure at boot

2014-07-06 Thread poma
' time. You certainly have a vivid imagination, capt'n James Tiberius Kirk. :) poma -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code

Re: Network availability systemd dependency failure at boot - U.B.E.R. L.A.M.E.

2014-07-06 Thread poma
someone might understand why someone else will NOT want to help fixing this mess, but, if not, that's ok too. It is not at all controversial, it is U.B.E.R. L.A.M.E. from you! You like a true opportunist expect someone else to solve your specific problem. poma -- users mailing list users

Re: Camera mounting

2014-07-06 Thread poma
... What has happened, not using selinux or so.. Have updated system some three times, after last camera mount, so why now have to be root, mount camera? Jarmo $ loginctl show-session $(loginctl|grep $(whoami)|awk '{print $1}') poma -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: 4K monitors?

2014-07-06 Thread poma
be supplied as 'ModeLine' as part of the Section Monitor. There may be additional directives, but the point is this works with a broken EDID. Therefore this is another solution. poma -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https

Re: 4K monitors?

2014-07-06 Thread poma
On 06.07.2014 15:09, poma wrote: On 04.07.2014 23:06, Tom Horsley wrote: On Fri, 04 Jul 2014 22:58:27 +0200 lee wrote: Huh? You can't just specify a resolution in xorg.conf anymore? Nope. After proudly ignoring EDID for 20 years, linux switched gears completely. Now it basically pays

Re: why do we use systemd?

2014-07-06 Thread poma
hand-waving here I repeat that I am not attacking systemd here, I'm criticizing the way it's described. It may seem perfectly clear to those who already understand it, but it's not at all clear to those who are used to something different. poc You can propose your terminology. poma -- users

Re: why do we use systemd?

2014-07-06 Thread poma
, but definitely not for regular people. It is documentation written by developers for other developers. Your interpretation is quite narrow. What about admins, enthusiasts and all those who avere sale in zucca. poma -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change

Re: Camera mounting

2014-07-06 Thread poma
is the same as Bob's, gphoto2 only as root - https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/users/2014-January/446166.html poma -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct

Re: why do we use systemd?

2014-07-06 Thread poma
On 06.07.2014 16:45, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Sun, 2014-07-06 at 15:32 +0200, poma wrote: I repeat that I am not attacking systemd here, I'm criticizing the way it's described. It may seem perfectly clear to those who already understand it, but it's not at all clear to those who are used

Re: why do we use systemd?

2014-07-06 Thread poma
On 06.07.2014 22:12, David Benfell wrote: poma writes: You can propose your terminology. You're asking him to do Poettering's technical writing when he isn't even sure he understands Poettering correctly. Not only is that an imposition, it's an unfair one. Thanks, but no thanks. Actually

Re: SImple amp for F20

2014-07-06 Thread poma
are in the wrong list man. poma -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki

Re: SImple amp for F20

2014-07-06 Thread poma
On 07.07.2014 06:01, Doug wrote: On 07/06/2014 11:21 PM, poma wrote: On 07.07.2014 04:47, Doug wrote: ... there are a couple of simple things to try: get some snap-on ferrite shield beads. They cost about $2-3 each. put one or two around the AC poser cord right where it enters the amplifier

Re: SImple amp for F20

2014-07-06 Thread poma
system. Sorry, cannot recommend cause I don't use it. However if you insist on Audacity, there is mention of Voxengo Lampthruster, http://wiki.audacityteam.org/wiki/VST_Plug-ins BTW, overall, regarding the sound on Linux platforms can be found here, http://linuxaudio.org/ poma -- users

Re: Problems after replacing an ati videocard by a nvidia card (F20, both 512 MB memory)

2014-07-07 Thread poma
explain this weird effect. Anybody has an explanation? Kind regards Joachim Backes Was ist die ausgabe dieses befehls $ ll /sys/class/drm/ BTW why are you using 'video=' directive? poma -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https

Re: why do we use systemd?

2014-07-07 Thread poma
On 07.07.2014 13:19, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Mon, 2014-07-07 at 04:39 +0200, poma wrote: On 06.07.2014 16:45, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Sun, 2014-07-06 at 15:32 +0200, poma wrote: I repeat that I am not attacking systemd here, I'm criticizing the way it's described. It may seem

Re: Problems after replacing an ati videocard by a nvidia card (F20, both 512 MB memory)

2014-07-07 Thread poma
On 07.07.2014 14:21, Joachim Backes wrote: On 07/07/2014 01:06 PM, poma wrote: On 07.07.2014 12:11, Joachim Backes wrote: Problem description: replacing my ati video card (DVI) by a nvidia card (DVI too) generates problems: almost unreadable (flickering) screen during boot after some boot

Re: why do we use systemd?

2014-07-07 Thread poma
projects and participating in them :-). For you Roquefort will always be just a fungus. It's beyond your comprehension. poma -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code

Re: frequent kernel oops -- how do I report it?

2014-07-07 Thread poma
://support.google.com/chrome/answer/95315 poma -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki

Re: why do we use systemd?

2014-07-07 Thread poma
? poma -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have

Re: why do we use systemd?

2014-07-07 Thread poma
On 08.07.2014 00:46, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Mon, 2014-07-07 at 23:27 +0200, poma wrote: For you Roquefort will always be just a fungus. It's beyond your comprehension. We're done here. poc We!? :) poma -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change

Re: why do we use systemd?

2014-07-07 Thread poma
On 08.07.2014 00:57, David Benfell wrote: poma writes: For you Roquefort will always be just a fungus. It's beyond your comprehension. Fascinating. Indeed. Tom tends to call a fungus everything he does not like. :) BTW you sound like Spock. :) poma -- users mailing list users

Re: why do we use systemd?

2014-07-07 Thread poma
On 08.07.2014 00:53, David Benfell wrote: poma writes: What is the sediment in the thread context? I suspect the word that was meant here is 'sentiment'. Yeah it comes to mind, but then what would be the sentiment in the thread context? poma -- users mailing list users

Re: why do we use systemd?

2014-07-07 Thread poma
On 08.07.2014 01:11, Greg KH wrote: On Tue, Jul 08, 2014 at 12:50:08AM +0200, poma wrote: On 08.07.2014 00:00, Heinz Diehl wrote: On 07.07.2014, Edward M wrote: It may become problematic once KDBUS merges into the mainline kernel. http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/systemd-devel/2014

Re: why do we use systemd?

2014-07-07 Thread poma
On 08.07.2014 01:15, Greg KH wrote: On Tue, Jul 08, 2014 at 01:08:48AM +0200, poma wrote: On 08.07.2014 00:53, David Benfell wrote: poma writes: What is the sediment in the thread context? I suspect the word that was meant here is 'sentiment'. Yeah it comes to mind, but then what would

Re: why do we use systemd?

2014-07-07 Thread poma
And people tend to say systmed developers are rude. :) s/systmed/systemd/ poma -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code

Re: why do we use systemd?

2014-07-07 Thread poma
project your frustrations on me, and do not call on others to do the same. That is abusive. OK. poma -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http

Re: why do we use systemd?

2014-07-07 Thread poma
On 08.07.2014 02:43, Joe Zeff wrote: On 07/07/2014 05:12 PM, poma wrote: Thank you very much but your interpretation is unnecessary. And please don't project your frustrations on me, and do not call on others to do the same. That is abusive. If I really believed that it would

Re: Camera mounting

2014-07-08 Thread poma
for fun? Really Ed. poma -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki

Re: why do we use systemd?

2014-07-08 Thread poma
OK that's it! I sincerely recommend the moderators to close this shameful thread where certain creatures are capable of spitting on the systemd and its developers without any remorse! poma -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options

Re: Camera mounting

2014-07-08 Thread poma
On 08.07.2014 08:10, Ed Greshko wrote: On 07/08/14 13:59, poma wrote: So you do not care, but you do not hesitate to jump into the thread to provoke Xfce users out of boredom or just for fun? Really Ed. Yes Shame on you! You really disappointed me! poma -- users mailing list users

Re: why do we use systemd?

2014-07-08 Thread poma
On 08.07.2014 08:28, Russell Miller wrote: I think Greg had the right idea. *plonk*. Mister plonk-man, this has nothing to do with Greg! Uber hilarious! poma -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org

Re: why do we use systemd?

2014-07-08 Thread poma
On 08.07.2014 01:16, poma wrote: On 08.07.2014 01:15, Greg KH wrote: On Tue, Jul 08, 2014 at 01:08:48AM +0200, poma wrote: On 08.07.2014 00:53, David Benfell wrote: poma writes: What is the sediment in the thread context? I suspect the word that was meant here is 'sentiment'. Yeah

startxfce4 harmonization with the systemd-logind

2014-07-09 Thread poma
, systemd-logind not tracking startx sessions https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=806491 Applicable to Fedora 19 - 21 Rawhide. poma -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora

Re: Sometimes problems with the visibility of threads in thunderbird

2014-07-09 Thread poma
click): then they will appear. This happens both with ati and nvidia video cards. Anybody has this effect too? Kind regards Joachim Backes Nope, everything is absolutely visible - nouveau. poma -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options

Re: SImple amp for F20

2014-07-09 Thread poma
On 08.07.2014 16:46, g wrote: excuse me poma, tho _slightly_ off topic as you say, i would like to add this: ... :) at least it is a ferrite and not fedorite, you old g-fox. poma -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https

Re: Sometimes problems with the visibility of threads in thunderbird

2014-07-09 Thread poma
On 09.07.2014 11:12, Joachim Backes wrote: On 07/09/2014 10:29 AM, poma wrote: On 09.07.2014 09:12, Joachim Backes wrote: Hi all, I'M running thunderbird-24.6.0-1.fc20.x86_64. Sometimes (rather often, but not always) having problems with threads in thunderbird: After opening a thread, all

Re: Sometimes problems with the visibility of threads in thunderbird

2014-07-09 Thread poma
On 09.07.2014 11:50, Joachim Backes wrote: On 07/09/2014 11:35 AM, poma wrote: On 09.07.2014 11:12, Joachim Backes wrote: On 07/09/2014 10:29 AM, poma wrote: On 09.07.2014 09:12, Joachim Backes wrote: Hi all, I'M running thunderbird-24.6.0-1.fc20.x86_64. Sometimes (rather often

Re: Sometimes problems with the visibility of threads in thunderbird

2014-07-09 Thread poma
You can also play around with 'layers.acceleration.*', and moglich 'gfx.xrender.enabled' in Prefs/Adv/Conf Ed. No guarantee. ;) poma -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users

Re: Sometimes problems with the visibility of threads in thunderbird

2014-07-09 Thread poma
On 09.07.2014 12:23, Joachim Backes wrote: On 07/09/2014 12:01 PM, poma wrote: On 09.07.2014 11:50, Joachim Backes wrote: On 07/09/2014 11:35 AM, poma wrote: On 09.07.2014 11:12, Joachim Backes wrote: On 07/09/2014 10:29 AM, poma wrote: On 09.07.2014 09:12, Joachim Backes wrote: Hi all

Re: Sometimes problems with the visibility of threads in thunderbird

2014-07-09 Thread poma
On 07/09/2014 12:29 PM, Joachim Backes wrote: On 07/09/2014 12:28 PM, poma wrote: On 09.07.2014 12:23, Joachim Backes wrote: On 07/09/2014 12:01 PM, poma wrote: On 09.07.2014 11:50, Joachim Backes wrote: On 07/09/2014 11:35 AM, poma wrote: On 09.07.2014 11:12, Joachim Backes wrote: On 07

Re: Execute acroread with Strace - Need help

2014-07-09 Thread poma
://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/users/2014-July/451167.html poma -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http

Re: Execute acroread with Strace - Need help

2014-07-10 Thread poma
On 10.07.2014 04:52, poma wrote: On 09.07.2014 22:28, Mickey wrote: F20 / KDE Trying to run acroread in AdbeRdr9.5.5-1_i486linux_enu.rpm and it won't start. ... Duplicating a thread will get you nowhere. Perhaps you missed, in the original thread, one important fact provided

Re: why do we use systemd?

2014-07-10 Thread poma
On 10.07.2014 16:10, Balint Szigeti wrote: It looks like, a small group of the community makes decisions and the other people don't have choice. No alternatives :( The alternative is that someone talks the same thing about you, in a parallel universe. :) poma -- users mailing list

Re: how to accurately test internet upload download speed

2014-07-10 Thread poma
speed test. No Flash or Java needed! :) http://speedof.me poma -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines

Re: *ERROR* PCH transcoder A FIFO underrun

2014-07-11 Thread poma
On 11.07.2014 17:23, Oliver Ruebenacker wrote: Hello, On trying to boot, Fedora crashes on my Lenovo Thinkpad T430 with this message: Booting 'Fedora (3.15.4-200.fc20.x86_64) 20 (Heisenbug)' [ 2.718947] [drm:cpt:cpt_serr_int_handler] *ERROR* PCH transcoder A FIFO underrun

Re: *ERROR* PCH transcoder A FIFO underrun

2014-07-11 Thread poma
-drv-intel poma -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki

Re: OT: Thunderbird spontaneously unsubscribing folders.

2014-07-11 Thread poma
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Re: OT: Thunderbird spontaneously unsubscribing folders.

2014-07-11 Thread poma
to run? Get CentOS 7 Now https://www.centos.org/download/ CentOS mailing list http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos poma -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code

Re: removing plymouth

2014-07-11 Thread poma
about your system :) $ systemd-analyze blame | grep -m1 [0-9][ms] 9.705s mariadb.service poma -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http

Re: OT: Thunderbird spontaneously unsubscribing folders.

2014-07-11 Thread poma
the following http://www.novell.com/documentation/evolution24/evolution24/data/exchange-configure.html https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Evolution/EWS_OperationsFeaturesParityMatrix https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Evolution/EWS poma -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change

Re: OT: Thunderbird spontaneously unsubscribing folders.

2014-07-11 Thread poma
Always try to contact the admins if there are problems. It is always good practice. poma -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code

Re: OT: Thunderbird spontaneously unsubscribing folders.

2014-07-12 Thread poma
On 12.07.2014 15:28, Rolf Turner wrote: On 12/07/14 17:41, poma wrote: On 12.07.2014 06:51, Rolf Turner wrote: ... ***Is*** there anything that can be done about it? If so, what? Please keep it simple and explicit, if you would be so kind. I need a *recipe* --- Do

Re: *ERROR* PCH transcoder A FIFO underrun

2014-07-12 Thread poma
On 12.07.2014 18:34, Oliver Ruebenacker wrote: Hello, On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 2:12 PM, poma pomidorabelis...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.linlap.com/lenovo_thinkpad_t430 https://apps.fedoraproject.org/packages/xorg-x11-drv-intel/bugs/all http://fedoraproject.org/wiki

Re: OT: Thunderbird spontaneously unsubscribing folders.

2014-07-13 Thread poma
On 07/13/2014 02:36 AM, Rolf Turner wrote: On 13/07/14 09:11, poma wrote: SNIP Always try to contact the admins if there are problems. It is always good practice. I have in the past not found the U. of Auckland IT people to be very helpful. They don't like the fact that I am using my own

Re: Is this proof that systemd is completely broken?

2014-07-13 Thread poma
Canute, I command you to come no farther! Waves, stop your rolling, and do not dare to touch my feet! King Canute on the Seashore poma -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users

Re: Is this proof that systemd is completely broken?

2014-07-13 Thread poma
this, http://goo.gl/ySCTWx :) No pun intended. Besides why would anyone spend valuable time on outdated network scripts on top of something called http://man7.org/linux/man-pages/man8/systemd-networkd.8.html poma -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change

Re: Is this proof that systemd is completely broken?

2014-07-13 Thread poma
Actually, I take this opportunity to thanks all systemd associates for their great effort, commitment and understanding. Godspeed. poma -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users

Re: Is this proof that systemd is completely broken?

2014-07-14 Thread poma
On 14.07.2014 02:49, Kevin Fenzi wrote: On Sun, 13 Jul 2014 20:37:40 -0400 Sam Varshavchik mr...@courier-mta.com wrote: poma writes: Besides why would anyone spend valuable time on outdated network scripts on top of something called http://man7.org/linux/man-pages/man8/systemd-networkd.8

Re: Ah, what's wrong!?!

2014-07-14 Thread poma
=Fedoracomponent=kernel poma -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki

Re: partitioning

2014-07-16 Thread poma
On 16.07.2014 19:54, Mike Wilson wrote: ... If you don't need swap then don't use it. How evaluate that can we? poma -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code

Re: wanted: performance laptop, no windoze tax

2014-07-16 Thread poma
On 16.07.2014 20:36, Kenneth Marcy wrote: No need to apologize for the subject because technology advances, so the answer changes for the same questions. Vorsprung durch technik. poma -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https

Re: partitioning

2014-07-16 Thread poma
, the swap-piness question isn't quite simple as it might seem. However. poma -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct

Re: wanted: performance laptop, no windoze tax

2014-07-17 Thread poma
recommendations for a relatively high performance laptop that works well on linux, and without paying windoze tax? Absolutely all the recommended machines are flagrantly overpriced. Come back down to earth. poma -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change

Re: partitioning

2014-07-17 Thread poma
On 17.07.2014 11:05, Mike Wilson wrote: On 07/17/2014 12:57 AM, poma wrote: On 16.07.2014 22:20, Mike Wilson wrote: If you have no idea how much you would need then you could search for some requirements if it is a specific program that needs much. Since I don't know what the load

Re: openconnect (2 issues)

2014-07-18 Thread poma
issues? For the record, I am running a fully-updated F20. Many thanks, Ranjan If you don't catch an answer here http://www.infradead.org/openconnect/mail.html poma -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https

Re: wanted: performance laptop, no windoze tax

2014-07-19 Thread poma
On 18.07.2014 15:32, g wrote: On 07/17/2014 02:41 PM, poma wrote: Absolutely all the recommended machines are flagrantly overpriced. Come back down to earth. flagrantly overpriced is flagrantly understated. There is no better recommendation than their own effort, right g-man? :) http

Re: wanted: performance laptop, no windoze tax

2014-07-20 Thread poma
On 19.07.2014 09:52, g wrote: On 07/19/2014 01:05 PM, poma wrote: On 18.07.2014 15:32, g wrote: On 07/17/2014 02:41 PM, poma wrote: Absolutely all the recommended machines are flagrantly overpriced. Come back down to earth. flagrantly overpriced is flagrantly understated

Re: eth0 again - the end

2014-07-20 Thread poma
renaming - immediately give up if the target name isn't available http://cgit.freedesktop.org/systemd/systemd/commit/src/udev/udev-event.c?id=97595710b77aa162ca5e20da57d0a1ed7355eaad poma -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https

Re: eth0 again - the end

2014-07-21 Thread poma
-event.c?id=97595710b77aa162ca5e20da57d0a1ed7355eaad poma That's very relevant! Thanks! So it might have not been the DEVICE=eth0 afterall and in fact it can fail again? Kernel -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https

Re: eth0 again - the end

2014-07-21 Thread poma
On 21.07.2014 11:30, poma wrote: On 21.07.2014 07:35, Amadeus W.M. wrote: [systemd-devel] 70-persistent-net.rules http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/systemd-devel/2013-April/010343.html README.Fedora-18 http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/cgit/systemd.git/tree/README.Fedora-18?h=f18#n17 0005

Re: new kernels rebooting

2014-07-21 Thread poma
On 21.07.2014 12:41, Paul Cartwright wrote: ... in less than 10 days.. Such rapid upgrades are actually commendable! :) This is the very reason why people drive Ferrari. poma -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https

Re: new kernels rebooting

2014-07-21 Thread poma
any longer than for the first install. When updating, I specify yum update --exclude=kernel*. Your expertise with kernel would be very welcome for the Fedora kernel also, when you offer Heinz. ;) poma -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription

Re: new kernels rebooting

2014-07-21 Thread poma
On 21.07.2014 18:37, Heinz Diehl wrote: On 21.07.2014, poma wrote: Your expertise with kernel would be very welcome for the Fedora kernel also, when you offer Heinz. ;) Here's what I'm doing (and what I basically have been doing in many years): 1. Download a kernel from kernel.org 2

Re: Figuring out a headless server's zeroconf addr

2014-07-22 Thread poma
] plugins=keyfile [keyfile] ... # ll /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/ # rpm -ql NetworkManager | grep man # rpm -qi $(rpm -qf /usr/lib/systemd/system/avahi-daemon.service) poma -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https

Re: Figuring out a headless server's zeroconf addr

2014-07-22 Thread poma
On 22.07.2014 16:43, poma wrote: On 22.07.2014 16:24, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 07/22/2014 09:57 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 07/22/14 21:49, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 07/22/2014 09:33 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 07/22/14 21:22, Robert Moskowitz wrote: But what file is this in now? /etc

Re: Figuring out a headless server's zeroconf addr

2014-07-22 Thread poma
On 22.07.2014 16:57, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 07/22/2014 10:43 AM, poma wrote: On 22.07.2014 16:24, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 07/22/2014 09:57 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 07/22/14 21:49, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 07/22/2014 09:33 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 07/22/14 21:22, Robert Moskowitz

Re: Figuring out a headless server's zeroconf addr

2014-07-22 Thread poma
On 22.07.2014 17:27, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 07/22/2014 10:54 AM, poma wrote: On 22.07.2014 16:43, poma wrote: On 22.07.2014 16:24, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 07/22/2014 09:57 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 07/22/14 21:49, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 07/22/2014 09:33 AM, Ed Greshko wrote

Re: vnc not into gnome but Xfce but still not working

2014-07-23 Thread poma
/runuser -l USER -c /usr/bin/vncserver %i -fg ExecStop=/bin/sh -c '/usr/bin/vncserver -kill %i /dev/null 21 || :' ExecStopPost=/sbin/runuser -l root -c /usr/bin/Loginctl-Clean [Install] WantedBy=multi-user.target poma -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change

Re: kindof fixed - Re: vnc not into gnome but Xfce but still not working

2014-07-23 Thread poma
On 23.07.2014 16:32, Ed Greshko wrote: On 07/23/14 22:25, Robert Moskowitz wrote: And this is not a bug with the default xstartup script? No. I'd classify it as a deficiency. It works as it is designed. It just doesn't have what you need for xfce. The reason why 'startxfce4' exists.

Re: vnc not into gnome but Xfce but still not working

2014-07-23 Thread poma
On 23.07.2014 10:40, poma wrote: $ grep -v ^# $HOME/.vnc/xstartup startxfce4 $ grep -v ^# /etc/systemd/system/vncserver@\:1.service [Unit] Description=Remote desktop service (VNC) After=syslog.target network.target [Service] Type=simple ExecStartPre=/bin/sh -c '/usr/bin/vncserver -kill %i

Re: VM not accepted by NFS server -

2014-07-23 Thread poma
On 23.07.2014 20:21, Chris Adams wrote: Once upon a time, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA bobgood...@wildblue.net said: I've created an Centos7 VM in this updated Fedora-20 box. NFS always works without a hitch however I can't mount the server from the VM. [root@localhost bobg]# mount

Re: VM not accepted by NFS server -

2014-07-23 Thread poma
On 23.07.2014 22:59, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote: On 07/23/14 15:06, poma wrote: /etc/sysconfig/nfs RPCNFSDARGS=-d -s systemctl restart nfs-server journalctl -f --full nfsd fan club Ok, not sure what that did but now it's mounted. Hopefully it will work after a reboot. Thank

Re: VM not accepted by NFS server -

2014-07-23 Thread poma
On 24.07.2014 01:23, Rick Stevens wrote: On 07/23/2014 04:14 PM, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA issued this missive: On 07/23/14 17:28, poma wrote: First you adjust the debug logging directed to syslog, then it is applied, and with the journalctl, you can monitor server events. ;) poma

Re: vnc not into gnome but Xfce but still not working

2014-07-24 Thread poma
On 07/23/2014 07:00 PM, poma wrote: On 23.07.2014 10:40, poma wrote: $ grep -v ^# $HOME/.vnc/xstartup startxfce4 $ grep -v ^# /etc/systemd/system/vncserver@\:1.service [Unit] Description=Remote desktop service (VNC) After=syslog.target network.target [Service] Type=simple ExecStartPre=/bin

Re: color display with man pages

2014-07-24 Thread poma
On 22.07.2014 06:54, Jatin K wrote: On Monday 21 July 2014 11:42 PM, Amila Perera wrote: Hi all, This is my first mail on fedora mailing list. I can't get the following to display colours with LESS command on my terminal, when viewing man pages. I am using Fedora 20 with KDE. My shell is zsh.

Re: CPU fan running at full speed

2014-07-24 Thread poma
On 24.07.2014 12:29, Klaus-Peter Schrage wrote: As of updating to kernel-3.15.5-200.fc20.x86_64, the cpu fan (and probably the case fan too) continuously runs at full speed, right from the system start. This behaviour is still present with the the most recent kernel 3.15.6-200..., but it wasn't

Re: CPU fan running at full speed

2014-07-24 Thread poma
On 24.07.2014 14:31, Klaus-Peter Schrage wrote: Am 24.07.2014 13:31, schrieb Klaus-Peter Schrage: Am 24.07.2014 12:48, schrieb poma: Your is CPU fan? Yes I have to correct myself: It is definitely the graphics adapter fan which is going berserk since kernel-3.15.6-200.fc20.x86_64 https

PWM fan speed too high

2014-07-24 Thread poma
On 24.07.2014 15:52, poma wrote: On 24.07.2014 14:31, Klaus-Peter Schrage wrote: Am 24.07.2014 13:31, schrieb Klaus-Peter Schrage: Am 24.07.2014 12:48, schrieb poma: Your is CPU fan? Yes I have to correct myself: It is definitely the graphics adapter fan which is going berserk since kernel

Re: VM not accepted by NFS server -

2014-07-24 Thread poma
On 24.07.2014 17:00, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote: I have a Cisco E3000 router using the Tomato version of DD-WRT which is set up to assign dhcp addresses to everything in the 192.168.1 xxx range. However the VM shows 192.168.122.14, what is that, how would I deal with it with the

Re: VM not accepted by NFS server -

2014-07-24 Thread poma
On 24.07.2014 17:36, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote: On 07/24/14 11:23, poma wrote: So after all, it was a journal from Centos7 VM - NFS client, while I expected to be from Fedora 20 host - NFS server? :) unexpected fan club Ok, then I suppose the question is how do I make

Re: VM not accepted by NFS server -

2014-07-24 Thread poma
On 24.07.2014 18:20, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote: On 07/24/14 11:48, poma wrote: As Chris mentioned, are you running Centos7 VM by VirtualBox, Virtual Machine Manager/libvirt/KVM/QEMU or VMware Workstation? poma I am ashamed to admit that I could not get VirtualBox to install

Re: VM not accepted by NFS server -

2014-07-24 Thread poma
On 25.07.2014 02:23, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote: On 07/24/14 18:09, poma wrote: On 24.07.2014 18:20, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote: On 07/24/14 11:48, poma wrote: As Chris mentioned, are you running Centos7 VM by VirtualBox, Virtual Machine Manager/libvirt/KVM/QEMU

Re: PWM fan speed too high

2014-07-25 Thread poma
Disclaimer: This is not an official source rpm, use at your own risk! # yum install mock deco - sha256sum http://goo.gl/mwJBue - kernel-3.15.6-500.fc20.src.rpm http://goo.gl/gi0Rio $ cd /path/to/downloads/ $ deco kernel-3.15.6-500.fc20.src.rpm $ cat sha256sum

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