Re: Why old Pan?

[Jerry James]

On Tue, Aug 13, 2024 at 9:16 AM Beartooth via users
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> On Mon, 12 Aug 2024 14:35:44 -0600, Jerry James wrote:
> > You can often get a clue about the state of a package from
> > https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/.  In this case,
> > https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/pan says "Package is currently
> > unmaintained".  If you use it, consider taking over as maintainer.
>
> But it IS maintained! One Dominique Dumont, for whom I have only a
> Gmane address, has been maintaining it for years.

The Fedora package is currently unmaintained, as you can see for
yourself by clicking on the link I provided.  If Dominique Dumont
maintained the package at some point in the past, that is no longer
the case.
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Re: Why old Pan?

[Jerry James]

On Mon, Aug 12, 2024 at 2:17 PM Beartooth via users
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>
> On Fedora 40, updated daily, I see:
>
> rpm -q pan
> pan-0.149-4.fc38.x86_64
>
> but pan 0.160 is out. And there is an active list, available via Gmane.

You can often get a clue about the state of a package from
https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/.  In this case,
https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/pan says "Package is currently
unmaintained".  If you use it, consider taking over as maintainer.
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Re: scroll lock shortcut in emacs

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On Tue, Jul 30, 2024 at 6:03 PM Sam Varshavchik  wrote:
> Somehow my fumbling around activates scroll lock mode in Emacs. define-
> function says that scroll-lock-mode is bound to the  key. There
> is no scroll lock key on the keyboard in question. It must be some alternate
> key combination for , involving a combination of Ctrl, Alt, or
> perhaps Meta keypresses. I don't know how to look up all key binding in
> emacs, anyone know how?

Click on the Help menu, then choose Describe, then List Key Bindings,
or press C-h b.
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Re: alternatives is forgetful?

[Jerry James]

On Sun, Jun 30, 2024 at 10:00 AM Michael Schwendt  wrote:
> You may want to add that to:
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/2277689

I opened https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/emacs/pull-request/41 and
mentioned it in that bug.
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Re: brlaser fails to build

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On Fri, Jun 28, 2024 at 3:47 PM Michael Hennebry
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> On Fri, 28 Jun 2024, Michael Hennebry wrote:
>
> > I recently installed F40.
> > My Brother HL-L2360DW printer is one of the few
> > that fedora linus's does not handle by default.
> > In the past, brlaser, https://github.com/pdewacht/brlaser ,
> > has helped me out of that difficulty.
> > This time, no go:
> > Despite doing a sudo dnf install 'cups*' ,
> > make tells gives me undefined reference messages:
> > cupsRasterReadPixels
> > cupsRasterReadHeader2
> > cupsRasterOpen
>
> $ nm -D /usr/lib64/libcups.so.2 | grep -e cupsRasterReadPixels -e 
> cupsRasterReadHeader2 -e cupsRasterOpen
> 0003bab0 T cupsRasterOpen
> 0003bae0 T cupsRasterOpenIO
> 000392f0 T cupsRasterReadHeader2
> 000382f0 T _cupsRasterReadPixels
> 00039390 T cupsRasterReadPixels

That suggests that "-lcups" is either too early on the link line
(before the object that refers to these functions) or missing from the
link line altogether.  Can you show the compiler or linker invocation
that issues the errors?
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Re: alternatives is forgetful?

[Jerry James]

On Fri, Jun 28, 2024 at 1:55 PM Go Canes  wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 28, 2024 at 3:20 PM Tom Horsley  wrote:
> >
> > I've always set my emacs alternatives to lucid emacs. Today I
> > did a big dnf update, rebooted to get new kernel, and then got
> > an error when I started emacs about the "pure GTK" version
> > not operating correctly under X11 (one of the reasons I use
> > lucid).
> >
> > Why did my alternatives config setting revert?
>
> I have my "alternatives" set to emacs-nox, but updates frequently
> change it back to emacs.  Too lazy to figure out why

$ rpm -q --scripts emacs
preuninstall scriptlet (using /bin/sh):
/usr/sbin/alternatives --remove emacs /usr/bin/emacs-29.4 || :
posttrans scriptlet (using /bin/sh):
/usr/sbin/alternatives --install /usr/bin/emacs emacs
/usr/bin/emacs-29.4 80 || :

I think that preuninstall scriptlet should instead be:

if [ $1 = 0 ]; then
  /usr/sbin/alternatives --remove emacs /usr/bin/emacs-29.4 || :
fi

See 
https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/packaging-guidelines/Scriptlets/#_syntax.
If that sounds right, a bug report is in order.
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Re: libvirtd.service start

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On Thu, Mar 21, 2024 at 1:20 PM Robert McBroom via users
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> virt- manager starts but says it cannot connect to anything. I have six 
> virtual machines I use for various purposes.

In virt-manager, if you select the Edit menu and then "Connection
Details", is the "Autoconnect" item selected?
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Re: libvirtd.service start

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On Wed, Mar 20, 2024 at 7:49 AM Robert McBroom via users
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> Recently libvirtd.service is not starting on boot. I have to manually
> start it with systemctl start libvirtd.
>
> Do I need to put that command in a startup script?

libvirtd.service is socket activated, so it should run automatically
when needed.  Does something not work if you don't start it manually?
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Re: Fedora 39 python3-pygame Module Issue

[Jerry James]

On Tue, Mar 19, 2024 at 4:32 PM Samuel Sieb  wrote:
> On 3/19/24 15:25, Stephen Morris wrote:
> >  I have installed python3-pygame V2.5.2.1 from the Fedora
> > repositories, and when I import it into python3 3.12 (installed from the
> > Fedora repositories) I get the following message:
> >
> > :488: RuntimeWarning: Your system is avx2
> > capable but pygame was not built with support for it. The performance of
> > some of your blits could be adversely affected. Consider enabling
> > compile time detection with environment variables like
> > PYGAME_DETECT_AVX2=1 if you are compiling without cross compilation.
> > How do I fix this or is the message irrelevant?
>
> It's not going to break anything, but I suggest filing a bug on the
> package with that suggestion.

Compile-time detection of AVX2 is no good.  Fedora supports pre-AVX2
CPUs.  If upstream can be convinced to do runtime detection of AVX2,
that would be great.
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Re: Marble problem: libicui18n.so.69

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On Sun, Mar 10, 2024 at 8:40 PM ToddAndMargo via users
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> On 3/10/24 19:18, Samuel Sieb wrote:
> > On 3/10/24 18:39, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
> >> On 3/10/24 16:52, Samuel Sieb wrote:
> >>> On 3/10/24 16:40, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
> >>>> And this is interesting:
> >>>>
> >>>> # dnf install libicu-73.2-2.fc39.x86_64
> >>>> Fedora 39 - x86_64   18 kB/s |  24 kB 00:01
> >>>> Fedora 39 openh264 (From Cisco) - x86_644.6 kB/s | 989  B 00:00
> >>>> Fedora 39 - x86_64 - Updates 33 kB/s |  23 kB 00:00
> >>>> RPM Fusion for Fedora 39 - Free 5.7 kB/s | 3.6 kB 00:00
> >>>> RPM Fusion for Fedora 39 - Free - Updates   6.6 kB/s | 3.9 kB 00:00
> >>>> Package libicu-73.2-2.fc39.x86_64 is already installed.
> >>>> Dependencies resolved.
> >>>> Nothing to do.
> >>>> Complete!
> >>>
> >>> Yes, this is why it isn't working.  You have (I assume) a qt5 package
> >>> that is linked with a previous version and somehow wasn't updated
> >>> when libicu was.
> >>
> >> # rpm -qa qt* | grep -v fc39
> >> 
> >
> > I didn't mean a previous Fedora release.  I meant that something is
> > linked against the previous version of libicu.
> >
> > However, with some investigation, the 69 version was in F37 at the
> > latest, so something is strange on your system and is from a previous
> > release.  I'm surprised other things aren't breaking.
>
> I am at a loss to figure out who is the culprit.  I will
> just have to wait on the bug report

Does this show anything?

rpm -q --whatrequires 'libicui18n.so.69()(64bit)'

If not, does this show anything?

grep -Fl 'libicui18n.so.69' /usr/lib64/lib*

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Re: How to discover latex fonts

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On Mon, Feb 12, 2024 at 11:14 AM Michael Hennebry
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> Whenever I run latex with anything other than the default font,
> whatever that is, I get a font not found message.
>
> How do I discover what fonts latex can use
> and the names and methods to invoke them?
>
> Search lead me to fc-list, but it did not help.

No, fontconfig is for a completely different kind of font.  It won't
help you at all with TeX fonts.

> Yes, I did find the latex fonts directory,
> but have no idea how to translate the file names into latex.
>
> I want 14 point type, so I'm pretty sure I need a scalable font.
>
> How young does the goat have to be?

The texlive font packages have virtual provides for their fonts.  So
if LaTeX complains that font ujkpsyd cannot be found, for example, you
can run "sudo dnf install tex(ujkpsyd.fd)" to get the needed package.

If that doesn't work for you, post the part of the log that mentions
the missing font and we'll see if we can figure it out.
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Re: finding missing font file (eurm10.map)

[Jerry James]

On Thu, Feb 8, 2024 at 9:43 PM Ranjan Maitra via users
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> Thanks, this did not do anything different. Are you sure that this font is in 
> this package?

$ rpm -ql texlive-amsfonts
...
/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/fonts/afm/public/amsfonts/euler/eurm10.afm
...
/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/fonts/tfm/public/amsfonts/euler/eurm10.tfm
...
/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/fonts/type1/public/amsfonts/euler/eurm10.pfb
/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/fonts/type1/public/amsfonts/euler/eurm10.pfm
...

Maybe the "at 600" part is significant?  We have reached the limits of
my knowledge, I'm afraid.  Hopefully somebody else will know what is
going on.
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Re: finding missing font file (eurm10.map)

[Jerry James]

On Thu, Feb 8, 2024 at 5:10 PM Ranjan Maitra via users
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> Thanks, yes, I do have it installed!
>
>  $ sudo dnf install texlive-amsfonts
>  Last metadata expiration check: 1:15:21 ago on Thu 08 Feb 2024 04:52:50 PM 
> CST.
>  Package texlive-amsfonts-11:svn61937-69.fc39.noarch is already installed.
>  Dependencies resolved.
>  Nothing to do.
>  Complete!

In that case I suggest reinstalling it so that the texlive triggers fire again.
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Re: finding missing font file (eurm10.map)

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On Thu, Feb 8, 2024 at 4:48 PM Ranjan Maitra via users
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> On a fully updated F39 system, I get the following font error when I run 
> LaTeX:
>
>  kpathsea: Running mktexpk --mfmode / --bdpi 600 --mag 1+0/600 --dpi 600 
> eurm10
>  mktexpk: don't know how to create bitmap font for eurm10.
>  mktexpk: perhaps eurm10 is missing from the map file.
>  kpathsea: Appending font creation commands to missfont.log.
>  (see the transcript file for additional information)
>  !pdfTeX error: pdflatex (file eurm10): Font eurm10 at 600 not found
>
> I looked around and came across a post from 2020 on Arch forums that says 
> that I potentially need texlive-most, however this is not available on F39.
>
> How do I get around the above error?

On my system, that font file is in the texlive-amsfonts package.  Do
you have that installed already?
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Re: Requesting a new package in Fedora

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On Wed, Oct 11, 2023 at 9:23 AM Jeffrey Walton  wrote:
> But I feel crummy because Fedora carries a library I help maintain,
> and someone else does the packaging. I feel like we've pushed our work
> onto someone else.

I don't think you need to feel bad about it.  Fedora has lots of
packages maintained by people who don't work on the upstream code.

Out of curiosity, what is the package you would like to see added to Fedora?
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Re: Requesting a new package in Fedora

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On Wed, Oct 11, 2023 at 2:24 AM Jeffrey Walton  wrote:
> Is there a process that covers a user requesting a package?

Here's the problem: who is going to act on such a request?  Packagers
typically work on packages because they are either paid to do so or
have a personal interest in the package.  If the package you have in
mind isn't already in Fedora, the hard part for you will be convincing
some packager to take an interest in it.

But there's another possibility: have you considered becoming a
packager yourself, even if it is for this one package only?
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Re: problem with files in python3.11/gzip

[Jerry James]

On Fri, Sep 1, 2023 at 5:46 PM Eyal Lebedinsky  wrote:
> Running a compressing backup (afio) I get many errors in
> /usr/lib64/python3.11/site-packages/scipy/
> files here report zero timestamp, which makes gzip unhappy.
>
> $ ls -l --full-time 
> /usr/lib64/python3.11/site-packages/scipy/fftpack/__init__.py
> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 3200 1970-01-01 10:00:00.0 +1000 
> /usr/lib64/python3.11/site-packages/scipy/fftpack/__init__.py
>
> $ gzip -kc /usr/lib64/python3.11/site-packages/scipy/fftpack/__init__.py 
> >/dev/null
> gzip: /usr/lib64/python3.11/site-packages/scipy/fftpack/__init__.py: warning: 
> file timestamp out of range for gzip format
>
> I cannot tell if this is a python3.11 issue, a packaging issue or a gzip 
> issue. Here in Australia we are at UTC+10
>
> Last update seems to be
> 2023-05-16T13:36:21+1000 DEBUG Upgraded: gzip-1.12-3.fc38.x86_64
> 2023-07-04T20:25:23+1000 DEBUG Upgraded: 
> python3-scipy-1.10.1-1.fc38.x86_64
> The backup done in 2023-07-01 did not show the problem so I suspect the 
> python3 package.

The zero timestamps are present in the upstream tarball.  Download this:

https://github.com/scipy/scipy/releases/download/v1.11.1/scipy-1.11.1.tar.gz

It looks like every file in that archive has a zero timestamp.
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Re: How do I install the rescue kernel for fc38?

[Jerry James]

On Tue, Aug 29, 2023 at 6:06 AM ToddAndMargo via users
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> Fedora 38
>
> My rescue kernel is FC30.
>
> How do I install the FC38 rescue kernel?
>
> # dnf whatprovides kernel\* | grep -i rescue
> 

Make sure you have dracut-config-rescue installed.  Then run:

sudo rm /boot/*rescue*
sudo /usr/lib/kernel/install.d/51-dracut-rescue.install add "$(uname
-r)" /boot "/boot/vmlinuz-$(uname -r)"

That will make the currently running kernel, with a suitable
initramfs, be your rescue kernel.
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Re: mariadb missing install file

[Jerry James]

On Mon, Jul 17, 2023 at 4:15 PM Mike Wright  wrote:
> There is supposed to be a file that creates the db's system files, sets
> an admin and its password, etc.  From mariadb-10.5.2 onward it's called
> "mariadb-install-db".  That file is missing in the rpm for 10.5.20
> (latest for f38).

$ dnf repoquery -f /usr/bin/mariadb-install-db
mariadb-server-3:10.5.18-1.fc38.x86_64
mariadb-server-3:10.5.20-1.fc38.x86_64

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Re: bitmap font error on F38

[Jerry James]

On Tue, Apr 25, 2023 at 12:58 PM Ranjan Maitra  wrote:
> Thanks very much again!
>
> I was explicitly able to update to texlive-was-svn64691-65.fc38.
>
> However, my problem with the font error continues on the F38 machine.
>
> What does it mean:  !pdfTeX error: pdflatex (file eurm10): Font eurm10 at 720 
> not found
>
> Where does this come from?
>
> Btw, I created the following LaTeX file font.tex:
>
> %BEGIN FILE
>
>  \documentclass[12pt]{article}
>  \usepackage{upgreek}
>
>  \begin{document}
>
>  $\upalpha,\upbeta,\upeta,\upmu,\upsigma$
>
>  \end{document}
>
> %END FILE
>
>  $ pdflatex font
>  This is pdfTeX, Version 3.141592653-2.6-1.40.24 (TeX Live 2022) (preloaded 
> format=pdflatex)
>  restricted \write18 enabled.
>  entering extended mode
>  (./font.tex
>  LaTeX2e <2022-06-01> patch level 5
>  L3 programming layer <2022-12-17>
>  (/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/latex/base/article.cls
>  Document Class: article 2021/10/04 v1.4n Standard LaTeX document class
>  (/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/latex/base/size12.clo))
>  (/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/latex/was/upgreek.sty)
>  (/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/latex/l3backend/l3backend-pdftex.def)
>  (./font.aux) 
> [1{/usr/share/texlive/texmf-var/fonts/map/pdftex/updmap/pdftex.map
> }] (./font.aux)
>  kpathsea: Running mktexpk --mfmode / --bdpi 600 --mag 1+120/600 --dpi 720 
> eurm10
>  mktexpk: don't know how to create bitmap font for eurm10.
>  mktexpk: perhaps eurm10 is missing from the map file.
>  kpathsea: Appending font creation commands to missfont.log.
>  )
>  !pdfTeX error: pdflatex (file eurm10): Font eurm10 at 720 not found
>   ==> Fatal error occurred, no output PDF file produced!
>
> However, this compiles without error, just as it should, on my F37 machine.
>
> Many thanks again, and best wishes,
> Ranjan

That works on my F38 machine.  Does this turn up anything?

find /usr/share/texlive -name \*.rpmnew

I'm especially interested in /usr/share/texlive/web2c/updmap.cfg.  If
there's an rpmnew version, you might have to fix that up before your
example will work.
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Re: bitmap font error on F38

[Jerry James]

On Tue, Apr 25, 2023 at 8:34 AM Ranjan Maitra  wrote:
> Anyone has any suggestions on how to get around this problem? What BZ report, 
> if any, should I file?

Where did you get texlive-upgreek?  I don't see it in Fedora.

Do you have the texlive-amsfonts package installed?  That seems to be
the package that contains eurm10.afm.
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Re: gthumb crash on startup and bugzilla reporting

[Jerry James]

On Tue, Feb 28, 2023 at 7:46 AM Max Pyziur  wrote:
> I occasionally forget to shutdown gthumb before shutting down my pc.
>
> On startup of the PC, I see a message indicating that gthumb crashed and
> asking whether or not I want to report the bug.
>
> (This is more of a nuisance; I can always start gthumb, and it works very
> well.)
>
> I click yes; the process runs, downloads debug packages, etc. When it is
> ready to report, send in the information, I get the following message:
> Backtrace is generated and saved, 145368 bytes
>
> --- Running analyze_BodhiUpdates ---
> Looking for similar problems in bugzilla
> fatal: RPC failed at server.  The API key you specified is invalid. Please
> check that you typed it correctly.
> abrt-action-find-bodhi-update [ERROR] Search for duplicate bugs failed:
> None
> ('analyze_BodhiUpdates' exited with 2)
>
>
> ###
>
> So, I would like to complete this process; I have bugzilla credentials; do
> I apply them somewhere in this report? Or do I have to acquire other
> credentials for this API?

See this thread:
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/de...@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/IXNCGA3BB46ASNBEE6SVRGKJUMRC6E7U/

Executive summary:
- Visit https://bugzilla.redhat.com/
- Choose Preferences from the menu in the upper right hand corner
- Choose "API Keys" from the Preferences sections near the top (5th
from the left for me)

That page has instructions on what to do next.  Regards,
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Re: sigil ebook editor?

[Jerry James]

On Wed, Feb 1, 2023 at 3:27 PM Tom Horsley  wrote:
> I've done a lot of that, but now I want to do things like
> insert chapters and split files which requires a lot of getting
> manifests and links to have the files they point at re-arranged
> and it seems likely sigil could get it all right easier than
> I could.
>
> I do see the sigil web site says they have a linux flatpack,
> but I avoid them like the plague :-).

See https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1724109 for the story.
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Re: tar

[Jerry James]

On Wed, Feb 1, 2023 at 12:41 PM Go Canes  wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 1, 2023 at 2:24 PM Patrick Dupre  wrote:
> > To create a tar file, I used to create a list and to make
> > tar -cvzf arch.tgz $list
> >
> > However, if there are file names with a space, this space is
> > interpreted as file name separator.
> >
> > How can I fix this,
> > either when I tar, or when I create the list?
>
> Instead of putting the filenames in a variable, put them in a file
> (one filename per line) and tell tar to get the filenames from the
> file with "--verbatim-files-from" and "-T, --files-from=FILE".
>
> I.e., put filenames in /tmp/list-for-tar, and then "tar -cvzf arch.tgz
> --verbatim-files-from -T /tmp/list-for-tar".  See if that works for
> you.

If you can make your list with find, you can also do something like this:

find [top directory] [find criteria here] -exec tar -cvzf arch.tgz {} +

Or, if you can generate the list with null characters instead of
spaces as the filename separators, you could do something like this:

[generate the list with nulls] | xargs -0 tar -cvzf arch.tgz

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Massive WireGuard performance regression on Fedora 37 vs Ubuntu 18.04

[James Wynn via users]

I noticed a massive performance regression for WireGuard in Ubuntu 20.04 & 
22.04, but it also affects Fedora. I don't know since which version.

Should I report this as a bug or did I mess something up? 

I have fully reproducible steps to demonstrate this issue on a vanilla 
DigitalOcean droplet, minimal WireGuard configuration and no firewall rules. 
I've also seen this issue on other hosting providers.

Testing with `iperf3 -c XXX -P 5`:

- Unencrypted traffic on DigitalOcean's VPC = ~2Gbps
- WireGuard Ubuntu 18.04 = ~1.3Gbps
- WireGuard Fedora 37 = ~400Mbps

htop reported only 20-30% load on the vCPU core so it isn't CPU-bound. After 
doing these tests, I did them all again on a different day to rule out 
temporary network congestion.

Steps to reproduce below. Repeat with each OS version.

0. Create a DigitalOcean account.
1. Create two $6 droplets (eg, LON1 region) with Regular CPU & 1GB RAM each, 
called test01 & test02.
2. `dnf update -y && reboot`
3. `dnf install -y wireguard-tools iperf3`

4. On test01, create `/etc/wireguard/test.conf` with these contents. Replace 
`YYY` with the IP address of the eth1 interface (VPC) on test02.


[Interface]
PrivateKey = wOEa8/RS2v065wgYGQn5k7FqOXuZJ9aC/6NDW569c3g=
Address = 192.168.200.10/24
ListenPort = 51820
SaveConfig = false

[Peer]
PublicKey = wdXOzBptLD/QMZjhG475GErrz95Vpj4S7JPEwzcDMV8=
PresharedKey = j5Oeyhu/qDag2LunpVlFqKycp/9CH+Izjza5aq2cYss=
Endpoint = YYY:51820
AllowedIPs = 192.168.200.20/32


5. On test02, create `/etc/wireguard/test.conf` with these contents. Replace 
`XXX` with the IP address of the eth1 interface (VPC) on test01.


[Interface]
PrivateKey = kCJ/4rVDTy86HxP9N5wUmgMF1Esqjc051jQPGhrQIGw=
Address = 192.168.200.20/24
ListenPort = 51820
SaveConfig = false

[Peer]
PublicKey = s/GtXkHOtPsqcNDy0BSRoMuxXYb4hK18dsQdkZk20yQ=
PresharedKey = j5Oeyhu/qDag2LunpVlFqKycp/9CH+Izjza5aq2cYss=
Endpoint = XXX:51820
AllowedIPs = 192.168.200.10/32


6. On both droplets, run `systemctl start wg-quick@test`
7. On test01, run `iperf3 -s -B XXX`.
8. On test02, run `iperf3 -c XXX -P 5 -t 30` and observe ~2Gbps.
9. On test01, run `iperf3 -s -B 192.168.200.10`
10. On test02, run `iperf3 -c 192.168.200.10 -P 5 -t 30` and observe ~400Mbps.

In steps 7 and 8, replace XXX with the IP address of the eth1 interface on 
test01.
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Re: Fedora 37: kernel: general protection fault, probably for non-canonical address PREEMPT SMP PT

[Jerry James]

On Fri, Jan 20, 2023 at 11:35 AM Dario Lesca  wrote:
> This bug still exist, also with last kernel 6.1.x
>
> Someone can help me to how to debug the problem?
>
> Could be a bugs related to my type of hardware?

I see in the changelog for kernel 6.1.7 that several NFS-related bugs
have been fixed (see
https://cdn.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v6.x/ChangeLog-6.1.7).  This
includes some reference counting bugs, which could be the cause of the
problem you are having. Maybe you could try this update:

https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2023-0597579983

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Re: Enscript header variables

[James Szinger]

On Wed, 11 Jan 2023 13:34:40 -0500
Terry Polzin  wrote:

> Does anyone have a reference for enscript header variables?  URL to
> documentation would be3 appreciated.
> 
> Thanks in advance,

The man page for enscript has a section “FANCY HEADERS” which seems to
have what you’re looking for:

   Currently enscript support the following special comments:

   %Format: name format
   Define a new string constant name  according  to  the  format
   string  format.  Format string start from the first non-space
   character and it ends to the end of the line.  Format  string
   can  contain  general  `%' escapes and input file related `$'
   escapes.  Currently following escapes are supported:

   %%  character `%'

   $$  character `$'

   $%  current page number

   $=  number of pages in the current file

   $p  number of pages processed so far

   [and so on]
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Re: latex/xdvi

[Jerry James]

On Tue, Jan 10, 2023 at 2:59 PM Patrick Dupre  wrote:
> Hello Jerry,
>
> I do not think so.
> 1) I tried latex->dvips->ps2pdf
> 2) I tried --enable-write18
> \usepackage{pst-plot}
> \usepackage{auto-pst-pdf}
>
> When I do not get an error, and get the pdf file, the
> expected blue line never shows up.

Huh.  I could swear I tried your example file with xelatex and it
worked, but now it doesn't.  I get this at the end of the run:

[1] (./test.aux) )
Error: /invalidfileaccess in --run--
Operand stack:
   (/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/dvips/pstricks/pstricks.pro)   (r)
Execution stack:
   %interp_exit   .runexec2   --nostringval--   run   --nostringval--
 2   %stopped_push   --nostringval--   run   run   false   1
%stopped_push   1974   1   3   %oparray_pop   1973   1   3
%oparray_pop   1961   1   3   %oparray_pop   1817   1   3
%oparray_pop   --nostringval--   %errorexec_pop   .runexec2
--nostringval--   run   --nostringval--   2   %stopped_push
--nostringval--   1974   1   3   %oparray_pop   run
Dictionary stack:
   --dict:790/1123(ro)(G)--   --dict:0/20(G)--   --dict:75/200(L)--
Current allocation mode is local
Last OS error: Permission denied
Current file position is 64
GPL Ghostscript 9.56.1: Unrecoverable error, exit code 1
(see the transcript file for additional information)
Output written on test.pdf (1 page).
Transcript written on test.log.

Sorry, I thought I was being helpful. :-)
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Re: latex/xdvi

[Jerry James]

On Tue, Jan 10, 2023 at 2:20 PM Patrick Dupre  wrote:
> You can try with (it gives the same error when trying to get the pdf file)
>
> \documentclass[a4paper]{article}
> \usepackage{pstricks}
> %\usepackage{pst-eucl}
> %\usepackage{calc}
> %\usepackage{pst-3dplot}%
> %\usepackage{pst-grad}
> %\usepackage{pst-plot,pst-math,pstricks-add}%
> %\usepackage{pst-all}
> %\usepackage{auto-pst-pdf}%PD
> %\RequirePackage{pst-xkey}
>
> \begin{document}
>
> \begin{pspicture}(-6,-6)(6,6)
> \psline[linecolor=blue,linewidth=1.5pt](-3,1)(2,2)
> \end{pspicture}
>
> \end{document}

The reason for the error, and how to resolve it, is explained here:

https://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/68870/pstricks-error-undefined-control-sequence-recently-read-clortops

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MuseScore 4.0

[Jerry James]

MuseScore is music composition and notation software, currently
available from Fedora in the mscore package. Version 4.0 was just
released.  If anybody would like to try it out, it is available from
this COPR: https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/jjames/MuseScore4/.
I do not intend to build for Fedora until some issues have been worked
out.

WARNING!  WARNING!  WARNING!
DO NOT TRY THIS IN A WAYLAND SESSION. It will run for anywhere from a
few seconds to a few minutes, then abruptly exit with a "Protocol
error".  Run an X session to try MuseScore 4.0.
WARNING!  WARNING!  WARNING!

WARNING!  WARNING!  WARNING!
Configuration for MuseScore 3.x and 4.x differs in some important
respects.  You may have to do a "factory reset" when switching
versions.  Run "mscore -R" or "mscore -F" if it won't start.  This
will clear out your list of recently opened scores, for example, so
backup your configuration before you do this.
WARNING!  WARNING!  WARNING!

To try it out, run:

sudo dnf copr enable jjames/MuseScore4
sudo dnf install musescore

Please try the video export option, which has bitrotted upstream. I
have attempted to update it for current ffmpeg. Please let me know if
it does or does not work for you. If it works well, I will submit my
patch upstream.  Do this: "mscore --score-video  -o
filename.mp4", and optionally try the --resolution and --fps
arguments.  Run "mscore --help" for more information.  This
functionality does not seem to be available via the GUI.

Upstream bundles fluidsynth, apparently for the sole purpose of
implementing a caching soundfont loader that uses internal fluidsynth
APIs. I have unbundled fluidsynth for this repository, which means
there is no soundfont cache. If you switch soundfonts frequently,
please let me know if the performance is acceptable. If you are
familiar with the fluidsynth API and can implement a caching soundfont
loader using only public APIs, please do so and submit it upstream.

Several other products are bundled (beatroot-vamp, dtl, intervaltree,
rtf2html, and KDDockWidgets).  Each of them has either been altered by
the MuseScore developers or, in the case of KDDockWidgets, internal
APIs are used so extensively that I cannot see how to unbundle
successfully.  Thoughts on how any of these products might be
unbundled are welcome.

The COPR version makes a long-requested change: the package name
changes from mscore to musescore.  Let me know if you encounter any
problems arising from that change.

A new font package is needed to build version 4.0 for Fedora.  I would
appreciate a review from anybody who feels competent to review a font
package: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2152347.  There
is a question about the appropriate foundry name.  If you can help
answer that question, please chime in.

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Re: Something keeps creating Events.json in my home directory

[Jerry James]

On Mon, Nov 21, 2022 at 8:43 AM stan via users
 wrote:
> This is just a snippet of code that stap will implement when you run it
> on the file.  I think the three ... are just markers to indicate the
> code.  As to where it should go, a file in your home directory is fine.
> You would have to run the  sudo stap events.stp  in the directory where
> it resides, or use a path to the executable.  Or maybe
> sudo stap -e events.stp
> from what I can see in the manual.

Yes, that's all exactly right.  The three backticks are how python
marks blocks of text.  I've gotten into the habit of using those in
emails to separate code from commentary.  Sorry if that was confusing.

So, yes, create events.stp anywhere, and pass the path to stap if it
isn't in the current directory.
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Re: Something keeps creating Events.json in my home directory

[Jerry James]

On Sun, Nov 20, 2022 at 7:12 AM Matti Pulkkinen  wrote:
> Something keeps creating a file, Events.json, in my home directory. It
> only ever contains an empty JSON array, but if I remove the file,
> something just creates it again. Has anyone seen this before? What
> program could be behind this? This only started happening after I
> installed Fedora 37 Workstation, and never happened to me before on
> Fedora 36.

If you can't figure this out otherwise, here's a heavyweight solution.
Install the systemtap package.  Run "sudo stap-prep".  Put this in a
file named, say, events.stp, and replace "" with your actual
username:

```
probe vfs.open
{
  if (pathname == "/home//events.json")
printf("events.json created by %s (pid %d, uid %d)\n", execname(),
pid(), uid())
}
```

That's crude, because it doesn't check that the file is opened in
create mode, but it will do for your case.  Delete events.json, then
run "sudo stap events.stp".  Come back later and see if it has printed
anything.  If I run "touch events.json" in another shell, for example,
it prints:

events.json created by touch (pid 39957, uid 1000)

Press Ctrl-C to exit from stap when you are done.
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Re: semanage in f36

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On Fri, Nov 4, 2022 at 12:18 PM François Patte
 wrote:
> So, I tried this command, but:
>
> semanage: command not found
>
> What can I do?

sudo dnf install /usr/sbin/semanage
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Re: monitor/display problem.

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On Thu, Nov 3, 2022 at 4:45 PM home user  wrote:
> I do not see any such logs in the gnome "logview" tool (which is where I
> see the boot and dnf logs).  Where are the akmod logs?

/var/cache/akmods/nvidia
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Re: Grub Background Image not Displayed in Grub Boot Menu

[James Szinger]

On Sun, 23 Oct 2022 14:43:27 +1100
Stephen Morris  wrote:

> Hi,
>      I have the following default config file in /etc/default/grub,
> and I have issued the grub2-mkconfig command to update
> /boot/grub2/grub.cfg which confirms that it found the background
> image, and when I look at /boot/grub2/grub.cfg it contains the
> necessary command to load png support and contains the
> background-image command to load the referenced image file, but the
> background does not display when the grub menu does, what am I
> missing? I've had used the grub-customizer app, without doing any
> config changes, and it successfully load the image from the
> specifications in /etc/default/grub.

> GRUB_BACKGROUND=/usr/share/sddm/themes/Galaxy-SDDM_3hu72/Galaxy-SDDM_3hu72.png

I suspect that the image needs to be in the /boot file system.  So

GRUB_BACKGROUND=/boot/grub2/images/...

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Re: VDQ : Ffx updates

[James Szinger]

On Mon, 10 Oct 2022 14:40:26 - (UTC)
Beartooth  wrote:

>   I run dnf clean all, followed by dnf upgrade, on all my
> machines, all on F36, daily. (I don't necessarily reboot, even if
> there's a kernel change. Should I?)
> 
>   Nevertheless, Firefox demands its own updates, including its
> own reboot, whensoever it damn pleases, and won't lift an electronic
> finger till it gets its way.
> 
>   Does this make some esoteric sense that I don't see? 
> 
>   If not, how do I eliminate or take control of its irritating 
> habit?

It seems that within the past month or so, Firefox gained the ability
to detect if a dependency has been updated.  If so, it insists on
restarting.  I presume this is to stop using the old, buggy, and
insecure shared libraries that have been updated.

Firefox restores its windows when it restarts so it’s not a big deal
for me.

Jim
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Re: system calls

[Jerry James]

On Mon, Oct 3, 2022 at 3:11 PM Bill Cunningham  wrote:
>  Have system call libraries been removed? I can't find socket.h
> there is no 'man 8 socket' no 'man pipe' no pipe() and no socket(). no
> 'man 3 socket'. Am I missing something? Glibc is there.

The socket.h header file is in the glibc-headers package.  Maybe you
are looking for "man 7 socket" and "man 2 socket"?  Those man pages
are in the man-pages package, as well as the pipe man page.
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Re: shortwave internet radio building process for AArch64 severe issues

[Jerry James]

On Fri, Sep 30, 2022 at 11:37 AM Mgr. Janusz Chmiel
 wrote:
> Lets start with this proces.
>
> https://gitlab.gnome.org/World/Shortwave
>
> I will be using. Termux version 118, Fedora version 35, AArch64 Cpu 
> architecture. I can not use Gnome-builder, because it call some systém calls 
> which are incompatible with Android kernel and userspace variant of Fedora. 
> Problems with connection to systém bus.


Help me understand.  You have succeeded in building the shortwave
application, but when you try to run it, it cannot connect to dbus and
so fails to operate at all.  Is that correct?
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Re: help me with tuner radio building process

[Jerry James]

On Thu, Sep 22, 2022 at 10:49 AM Mgr. Janusz Chmiel
 wrote:
> Here are The required components.
>
> libgtk-3-dev libgee-0.8-dev libgranite-dev libgstreamer1.0-dev 
> libgstreamer-plugins-bad1.0-dev libsoup2.4-dev libjson-glib-dev 
> libgeoclue-2-dev libgeocode-glib-dev

Here is the corresponding list of Fedora package names:

gtk3-devel libgee-devel granite-devel gstreamer1-devel
gstreamer1-plugins-bad-free-devel libsoup-devel json-glib-devel
geoclue2-devel geocode-glib-devel

If libgee-devel is too new, you can try libgee06-devel instead.  Good luck!
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Re: puzzling message/suggestion during weekly patches.

[Jerry James]

On Thu, Aug 11, 2022 at 12:41 PM home user  wrote:
> WARNING: local host name ([private]) is not qualified; see cf/README:
> WHO AM I?
> /etc/aliases: 77 aliases, longest 10 bytes, 778 bytes total

That message is from sendmail, not setup.  On Fedora, if you install
the sendmail-doc package, then cf/README is installed as
/usr/share/doc/sendmail/README.cf; see line 372 of
https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/sendmail/blob/rawhide/f/sendmail.spec.
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Re: gsl

[Jerry James]

On Tue, Aug 9, 2022 at 8:33 AM Patrick Dupre  wrote:
> I am currentyly running gsl-2.6
> I am trying to install gsl-2.7
> However, qag.c is not delivered by gsl nor gsl-devel (in 
> gsl-2.6-6.fc36.x86_64)

Like Richard already said, qag.c is a source file, not a binary file
that would be installed by the gsl or gsl-devel packages.  However,
you can get it like this:

sudo dnf --enablerepo=fedora-debuginfo --enablerepo=updates-debuginfo
install gsl-debugsource

Then the file you are looking for will be installed in
/usr/src/debug/gsl-2.6-6.fc36.x86_64/integration/qag.c.
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Re: Firefox issue

[Jerry James]

On Sat, Aug 6, 2022 at 8:57 PM ToddAndMargo via users
 wrote:
> How do I get a new cert?

If you are certain that you're seeing the real gigabyte site, not some
spoof site that's going to steal your data, then go to Firefox
Settings, choose "Privacy & Security" on the left, then scroll down to
the "Security" section.  There should be a "Certificates" subsection
under that.  Choose "View Certificates".  Choose "Servers".  Do you
see a gigabyte certificate listed there?  If so, delete it.  If not,
then we've reached the limits of my knowledge and you're on your own.
:-)

Be really sure that the new certificate is actually issued by gigabyte
before you do this.
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Re: 32-->36?

[James Szinger]

On Sat, 30 Jul 2022 20:01:48 -0400
Tom Horsley  wrote:

> Although why anyone would want to use fedora for a long term server
> is a separate question :-). (CentOS or Ubuntu LTS comes to mind).

Software.

RHEL provides only a small fraction of the packages available in
Fedora.  Even worse, RH disables features that Fedora has and RH
aggressively removes the `-devel` packages.  When I tried building
software on CentOS, I had to patch and rebuild a bunch of Fedora
packages, patch and rebuild some CentOS packages, and rebuild some
more CentOS packages for packages that builds but doesn’t ship before
I could even begin.  I found this to be a waste of time and not
sustainable.

As far as Ubuntu goes, I would probably choose Debian.  But I am more
comfortable with rpm than apt, and have yet to find a good guide on
how to build my own `.deb` packages.

I also find it easier to manage the stream of small changes that come
with Fedora instead of the flood of changes that come with a new RHEL
release.

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Re: Is there an officially Fedora supported replacement for the old rc.local? - still an issue

[James Szinger]

On Fri, 22 Jul 2022 13:56:13 -0600
Joe Zeff  wrote:

> On 7/22/22 13:34, James Szinger wrote:
> > I first encountered UNIX after years of using VMS, IBM mainframes,
> > and a plethora of personal computers.  They ALL had editors better
> > than vi.  Who writes an editor where the arrow keys don’t work!  
> 
> To be fair, when vi was written, there were no arrow keys.  Still, I
> my personal opinion is "Fi on vi!"

The IBM 3277 was released in 1971 and had arrow keys.  The DEC VT05,
from 1970 and the VT52, released in 1975, had arrow keys.  Later
models, such as the VT100, VT220, and IBM PC had arrow keys.  The ex
editor is from 1976, but the vi name dates from 1979.

By the mid 1980s arrow keys were ubiquitous, but vi still couldn’t
cope with them.

Jim
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Re: Is there an officially Fedora supported replacement for the old rc.local? - still an issue

[James Szinger]

On Wed, 20 Jul 2022 18:43:05 +0100
Barry  wrote:

> At Berkeley university they liked emacs but on the VAX 11/780 only
> one user could be supported on BSD. The problem was found to be the
> I/O rate from single char input and echoing.
> 
> In response to the need to support 30 students on the VAX they needed
> to drop the I/O rate. This resulted in VI and matching kernel
> terminal ioctl changes to allow lines of text to be input as a single
> I/O. There is a usenix paper that describes this in detail that came
> out a long long time ago.
> 
> Now you have an army of graduates that know VI and use it at work.
> The rest is history…
> 
> But when I worked at DEC we used Goslings emacs on VMS and had enough
> hardware to support emacs. I still maintain it as Barry’s Emacs.

I first encountered UNIX after years of using VMS, IBM mainframes, and
a plethora of personal computers.  They ALL had editors better than
vi.  Who writes an editor where the arrow keys don’t work!

I use emacs -nw or mg when I need a terminal editor.

Jim
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Re: F36: removing systemd-resolved breaks chrony

[James Tremblay]

Peter. Considering your 5 years here and the topic of systemd-resolved. I was 
wondering if you could help me to propose a default change to the installation 
of systemd-resolved that seems to have helped me keep it installed and working 
even with a Local DNS server in the mix.
This approach https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Systemd-resolved  specifically :
/etc/systemd/resolved.conf.d/dns_servers.conf
[Resolve]
DNS="Global_DNS_Server" 
With this configured to 8.8.4.4  I have all of my external DNS resolving and 
when I use NetworkManager to add a per link DNS (it ignores more then one per 
link) everything works... I think this is related to the removal of the 
Fallback DNS entries. 
Thank in Advanced JT 
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Re: Update to f36: problem with wine libvkd3d-1.dll not found

[Jerry James]

On Wed, Jul 20, 2022 at 12:45 PM Gianluca Cecchi
 wrote:
> Great!
> I only had wine-7.12-2.fc36.x86_64 and:
>
> mingw32-binutils-2.37-4.fc36.x86_64
> mingw32-cpp-11.2.1-5.fc36.x86_64
> mingw32-crt-9.0.0-4.fc36.noarch
> mingw32-filesystem-133-2.fc36.noarch
> mingw32-gcc-11.2.1-5.fc36.x86_64
> mingw32-headers-9.0.0-3.fc36.noarch
> mingw32-lcms2-2.12-3.fc36.noarch
> mingw32-libpng-1.6.37-7.fc36.noarch
> mingw32-libxml2-2.9.10-11.fc36.noarch
> mingw32-libxslt-1.1.35-3.fc36.noarch
> mingw32-srvany-1.1-2.fc36.noarch
> mingw32-wine-gecko-2.47.2-5.fc36.noarch
> mingw32-win-iconv-0.0.8-7.fc36.noarch
> mingw32-winpthreads-9.0.0-3.fc36.noarch
> mingw32-zlib-1.2.11-7.fc36.noarch
>
> I installed mingw32-vkd3d-1.4-1.fc36.noarch and now the application works 
> again!
>
> Thanks
> Gianluca

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Re: Update to f36: problem with wine libvkd3d-1.dll not found

[Jerry James]

On Wed, Jul 20, 2022 at 6:48 AM Gianluca Cecchi
 wrote:
> 0118:err:module:import_dll Library libvkd3d-shader-1.dll (which is needed by 
> L"C:\\windows\\system32\\wined3d.dll") not found
> 0118:err:module:import_dll Library libvkd3d-1.dll (which is needed by 
> L"C:\\windows\\system32\\wined3d.dll") not found
> 0118:err:module:import_dll Library wined3d.dll (which is needed by 
> L"C:\\windows\\system32\\d3d9.dll") not found
> 0118:err:module:import_dll Library d3d9.dll (which is needed by L"C:\\Program 
> Files (x86)\\Booktab\\Booktab.exe") not found
> 0118:err:module:import_dll Library libvkd3d-shader-1.dll (which is needed by 
> L"C:\\windows\\system32\\wined3d.dll") not found
> 0118:err:module:import_dll Library libvkd3d-1.dll (which is needed by 
> L"C:\\windows\\system32\\wined3d.dll") not found
> 0118:err:module:import_dll Library wined3d.dll (which is needed by 
> L"C:\\windows\\system32\\DDRAW.dll") not found
> 0118:err:module:import_dll Library DDRAW.dll (which is needed by 
> L"C:\\Program Files (x86)\\Booktab\\Booktab.exe") not found
> 0118:err:module:LdrInitializeThunk Importing dlls for L"C:\\Program Files 
> (x86)\\Booktab\\Booktab.exe" failed, status c135

There was a recent wine update that split the vkd3d libraries out into
their own packages.  Do you have these versions installed?

wine-7.12-2.fc36.x86_64
mingw32-vkd3d-1.4-1.fc36.noarch

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Re: are there typical ways Fedora tends to break?

[James Tremblay]

Chris, I have been using Fedora as my D2D corporate workstation since F32. I 
have had very few issues with any of it. My biggest issue and daily pita is 
systemd-resolved . I have to consistently "systemctl restart systemd-resolved" 
in order to get my VPN to restart. 
In my home network, systemd-resolved is so bad that I can't get freeipa \ DNS 
to work at all. I messed with it for quite a while, it seems to work for 5 
minutes then not. 
I have a F36 KVM host with these guests:
F36 freeipa 
F36 Server with GUI
Alma 8 Server with GUI
CentOS 8 server with GUI

External hosts
F36 Laptop
I get no stable DNS resolution from any of them. I suspect that the FreeIPA 
host is arguing with the systemd-resolved proxy
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Re: are there typical ways Fedora tends to break?

[James Szinger]

On Fri, 15 Jul 2022 14:41:09 -0400
Chris Murphy  wrote:

> What portion of the failures are early boot failures? (Defined as
> bootloader, kernel, or early initramfs failures. But excludes being
> landed at a dracut prompt.)

One thing that Fedora Linux REALLY needs is the file
/usr/share/doc/grub2-common/README.Fedora which describes how to
customize grub, how to set the default boot arguments, how kernel
upgrades work, and so on.  I find that Fedora’s grub is sufficiently
different from upstream and other distros that guides written for them
fall short when working with Fedora.  I think this is somewhere on the
Fedora website, but it is hard to find when needed.  Another advantage
of a local file is that it should be specific for the current
installation.

Jim
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Re: are there typical ways Fedora tends to break?

[James Szinger]

On Sat, 16 Jul 2022 15:00:45 -0600
Joe Zeff  wrote:

> On 7/16/22 13:55, James Szinger wrote:
> > I find Gnome 3 unusable, so I use Mate instead of Workstation.  
> 
> When I read a description of what Gnome 3 would be, I started hunting 
> around and ended up with Xfce, before Gnome 3 was released and never 
> looked back.

I have used XFCE and liked it well enough that I would use it if MATE
were not available.  I still prefer  MATE.  For example, the MATE
keyboard settings lets me customize the layout, but I had to use
setxkbmap or xmodmap with XFCE.

KDE looks slick and polished, but has enough problems under the hood
to remain a plaything.  (Just look at the blocker bugs from the last
few Fedora releases).

Jim
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Re: are there typical ways Fedora tends to break?

[James Szinger]

On Fri, 15 Jul 2022 14:41:09 -0400
Chris Murphy  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I have a request for list regulars.
> 
> The Fedora Workstation working group is curious if there's any pattern
> or categorization how Fedora installations typically break. i.e. the
> installation is successful, the system has been updated multiple times
> successfully, and then for whatever reason it breaks.

I find Gnome 3 unusable, so I use Mate instead of Workstation.

> Are most failures hardware related? This could be broken down into
> hard failure (drive or logic board failed) and soft failure (some
> hardware configuration change and reverting the change resolves the
> problem).

I have had my share of hardware failures, but it is far more common
for hardware to reach end of support or to be replaced by an upgrade.

> What portion of the failures are early boot failures? (Defined as
> bootloader, kernel, or early initramfs failures. But excludes being
> landed at a dracut prompt.)

Almost none, and those are usually self inflicted.  

> What portion of the failures land the user at a dracut shell?

Almost none, and those are usually self inflicted.  I did have one
case where LVM did not find the root volume group and another with a
corrupt root partition, but those were years ago.

> What portion of the failures does the user get to a graphical shell
> but can't login?

Never.  (Except when a network failure happens and NIS is unhappy.)

> What portion of the failures can the user login but there's some sort
> of anomalous behavior?

Most.

I have recently started seeing kernel panics in the nouveau kernel
driver.

Many are new “features” that aren’t ready for prime-time.  Two recent
examples are systemd-resolved with bridged networks and pipewire with
bluetooth.

There were also a few upgrades that changed the RPM database format,
and the migration from authconfig to authselect.  I feel that the
Fedora Change process and QA are helping here.

(I missed the great a.out to ELF transition).

> What portion of all failures are fixable without reinstalling?

All except drive failures.  

> Is the GRUB "rescue" menu entry ever useful in resolving problems?

No.  I have a bootable USB drive I can use for this purpose, or I can
boot the installer into rescue mode.  I remove dracut-config-rescue
and the rescue image from /boot.

> The questions list is not complete, feel free to add your own
> categorizations / failure patterns that you tend to see.

I have never had hibernation work right.

Applications designed for Gnome 3 often do not play nicely with other
window managers;  they show Gnome 3 window decorations instead of what
I have configured marco to show.  (Blueberry and evince are two
examples.)

I set a delay in the BIOS so I can access the BIOS menus, and a delay
in the boot manager so I can access its menus.

Jim
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Re: A simple question

[James Szinger]

On Sat, 16 Jul 2022 12:55:25 -0600
Joe Zeff  wrote:

> Recently, my laptop died and I had to buy a new one.  Now, I'd like
> to take a look at what hardware is inside.  I know that there used to
> be a program to show you all of the hardware, but it's been so long
> since I needed it that I can't remember its name.  I'd appreciate it
> if somebody could point me in the right direction.

inxi and lshw spring to mind.  Both are in Fedora.

Jim
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Re: cpan build perl-PDL-Graphics-PLplot

[James Szinger]

On Sat, 16 Jul 2022 15:32:57 +0200
Patrick Dupre  wrote:

> However, I cannot see any distribution offering
> perl-PDL-Graphics-PLplot. 
> Nevertheless, this package is still active
> https://metacpan.org/pod/PDL::Graphics::PLplot

It has many failures on CPAN Testers:

Others also have problems.

Also, this distribution layout and Makefile.PL are not typical for
Perl modules.

> If I cannot compile for the source, how can I make it compatible with
> my distribution?

A bug report seems like a good start.

> cpanm PDL::Graphics::PLplot
> perl -MCPAN -e shell
> install PDL::Graphics::PLplot
>  
> Is this acceptable?

Does it work?  Can you adapt the spec file to match?

Jim
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Re: CPU Access in the Kernel

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On Tue, Jun 14, 2022 at 5:17 PM Stephen Morris  wrote:
>  Just a quick question. To determine how many cpu's/cores/channels
> the kernel is configured to support, do I need to look at the kernel
> source to determine if all of the cores I have are capable of being
> used, or is there something else available to tell me without going to
> the source?

The values the kernel was configured with are in
/boot/config-.  If I understand your question correctly, you
are looking for CONFIG_NR_CPUS, which is 8192 on my machine.
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Re: updatedb.conf?

[Jerry James]

If you take a look at plocate.spec [1], you'll see on line 101 that
this file is declared with %ghost.  So the file itself is not shipped
with the plocate package, but if you create it, then the package will
assume ownership of it; i.e., if you remove the plocate package, then
/etc/updatedb.conf will be removed, too.

References:
[1] https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/plocate/blob/rawhide/f/plocate.spec

On Sat, Jun 11, 2022 at 8:20 AM Tom Horsley  wrote:
>
> The plocate rpm appears to include an /etc/updatedb.conf file
> (shows up in rpm -q --list plocate).
>
> But my system doesn't have an /etc/updatedb.conf file, and judging
> from the backups, it has never had one on fedora36.
>
> Anyone on fedora 36 that does have an /etc/updatedb.conf file?
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Re: Problems with Borg backup on F36

[James Szinger]

On Mon, 16 May 2022 20:56:10 +0100
Patrick O'Callaghan  wrote:

> On Mon, 2022-05-16 at 18:20 +0200, Markus Schönhaber wrote:
> > 16.05.22, 17:45 +0200, Patrick O'Callaghan:
> >   
> > > I updated to F36 a few days ago and everything seemed to go
> > > smoothly
> > > until I noticed my regular nightly backups were failing. I use
> > > Borgbackup and the configuration has been stable for a long time
> > > with
> > > no problems. The actual backup does seem to succeed, but Borg runs
> > > a
> > > post-backup repository check that is now failing, even for backups
> > > taken before the system upgrade.  
> >

I upgraded a laptop to F36 few days ago and borgmatic runs without
error, including the check.  I suspect something else is happening.
Try increasing borgmatic’s verbosity to see the borg error message.

borgmatic-1.6.0 does have some breaking changes, but that is the
current version for both 35 and 36.

Also, my systems are using borgbackup-1.1.17-1.fc35 and
borgbackup-1.2.0-1.fc36.  How did you get 1.2.0 on F35?

Jim


> > Could be caused by the update to borg 1.2. You might want to take a
> > look 
> > at this bug report:
> > https://github.com/borgbackup/borg/issues/6687
> >   
> 
> I did consider that. However the upgrade to Borg 1.2 happened on April
> 12, weeks before the system upgrade to Fedora 36, and there were no
> errors in the intervening time. Also, the built-in validation check on
> the config file says it's all fine.
> 
> > > I've reported this:
> > > https://mail.google.com/mail/u/1/?zx=60aw7rldu1gf&pli=1#inbox  
> > 
> > I don't get where this link is supposed to lead to.  
> 
> Sorry, that should have been:
> 
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2086497
> 
> poc
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Re: font longevity questions.

[James Szinger]

On Sat, 14 May 2022 11:21:32 +0930
Tim via users  wrote:

> On Fri, 2022-05-13 at 07:48 -0300, George N. White III wrote:
> I'd briefly looked at LaTex, decided it was more pain that is worth
> for *me* to learn, but lots of people provide that same advice.
> Having been down the road, before, of using proprietary word proc doc
> formats that couldn't be used elsewhere, I see the value of well
> defined and universal document formats.  And it is a format that
> print publishers could handle, if your documents were heading that
> way.

Try markdown if LaTeX is too complicated.  Markdown is a simple,
text-based markup language that can be automatically converted to
other formats, including HTML, LaTeX, PDF, and MS Word.  It is
amenable to version control since it is text-base; it is the preferred
documentation format for GitHub and GitLab.  Markdown syntax is simple
enough for a person to read and write after quick introduction.

I have been using LaTeX for decades and have designed several document
classes.  Markdown is better for most of my documents, unless I need a
publication quality PDF with advance formatting.

I don’t grok word processors.  Plain text is just as good for simple
documents and WYSIWYG interferes with complicated formatting.  Many of
the Word files I get from my colleagues are a mess.

Jim

P.S. This e-mail is an example of markdown.
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Re: First 5 minutes with f36

[James Szinger]

On Fri, 13 May 2022 00:45:50 +
olivares33561 via users  wrote:

> I am running Gnome and had a command in ~/.bash_profile to compose
> setxkbmap -compose ralt key
> 
> to put a ñ I used ~ and n but it does not work anymore :(. What is
> the magic incantanation?  I am using Tom's technique copy paste from
> web browser.  But if I can use a compose key strategy, it would be
> appreciated if there is a how-to and independent of which desktop one
> uses.

Are you using wayland?  If I remember correctly, setxkbmap doesn’t
work under wayland. I am still using X windows, so I don’t know the
answer.

Jim
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Re: LibreOffice Base?

[Jerry James]

On Mon, May 2, 2022 at 3:43 AM Robert Moskowitz  wrote:
> saved me asking this basic question.  :)
>
> Typed it into a Terminal window and...
>
> Nothing.
>
> Just came back with the command prompt.
>
> :(

If all else fails, and it sounds like it has, here's a technique I
have used to find out why something fails to launch.  Install strace
("sudo dnf install strace").  Then run this command in a terminal:

strace -ff -o oobase -s 1024 oobase

When that exits, you will have 1 or more files with names of the form
oobase. in the current directory.  One of them may have a clue
as to what is going on.  Upload them somewhere, and I'll take a look
to see if the cause is apparent.
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Re: ssh infested by systemd.resolved

[Jerry James]

On Fri, Apr 22, 2022 at 10:24 AM Michael Hennebry
 wrote:
> Does making fun of *code* violate either?

Maybe, maybe not.  But it doesn't do any good either.  Are you aware
of a single instance of somebody making fun of code, and the author of
said code then saying, "Oh, now that you have made fun of my code, I
see that I didn't think things through?"  It doesn't happen.  Making
fun of a person's creations makes that person defensive, and less
tractable than they might have been at first.  It is
counterproductive.

We primates have a distinct tendency to descend into warring tribes of
poop-slinging chimpanzees.  Many organizations have codified standards
of professional behavior for precisely this reason.  Once the
poop-slinging starts, forward progress comes to a rapid halt.

Those who are unhappy with a technical product have a choice.  Either
(1) whine endlessly about it, which will change nothing; or (2) figure
out how to persuade somebody to change things.  The latter requires
making a technical argument.  List the disadvantages of the current
approach.  Outline an alternate approach that does not have those
disadvantages.  Be frank about the disadvantages of the alternate
approach.  Approach the person or people with decision-making power
and persuade them that your alternate approach deserves a hard look.
Offer to help implement the alternate approach.

Persuading people takes work.  Mocking not only doesn't persuade, it
does the opposite.
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Re: nm: /usr/lib64/libmpfr.so.6: no symbols

[Jerry James]

On Sun, Apr 10, 2022 at 2:52 PM Michael Hennebry
 wrote:
> The new unary minus seems to be buggy.
> I'm getting an assertation error from what seems to be the parser.
> My guess is that it is masking the recursion issue.
>
> If I rename my gappa binary,
> is there any reason I could not also install the packaged version?

You should be able to do that, yes.

> I'd planned on that, but had not checked on the mechanism.
> I'm not an Inria person and would need an
> Inria person (yourself?) to invite me.
> A configure comment says to report bugs to the author.
> Should I do that instead?

The author has responded to email in the past, so that's probably
fine.  I'm not an inria person, but the author should be able to
invite you if that seems like the best way to go.
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Re: nm: /usr/lib64/libmpfr.so.6: no symbols

[Jerry James]

On Thu, Apr 7, 2022 at 8:57 PM Michael Hennebry
 wrote:
> Can you say what they were?
> To me, that might be good news.
> I gave 1.3 a file that caused apparently infinite recursion.
> If 1.4 is that different, it might work better.

I don't see anything in the release notes that suggests that might be
the case.  See https://gitlab.inria.fr/gappa/gappa/-/blob/master/NEWS.md.

Honestly, I don't remember what I was worried about now.  Maybe it was
the change in precedence of unary minus?  I guess it must have been.
The other changes seem innocuous.

In any case, if you think you are triggering infinite recursion, try
filing a bug here: https://gitlab.inria.fr/gappa/gappa/-/issues.

> Is there a forum, a user group or something for gappa users?

The gitlab project is the only resource I know about.

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Re: /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lmpfr

[Jerry James]

On Thu, Apr 7, 2022 at 8:50 PM Michael Hennebry
 wrote:
> Why?
> I am not trying to build or edit mpfr.
> The error message in config.log says that it was
> looking for the symbol mpfr_snprintf in -lmpfr .
> It did not even find -lmpfr .
> Why not?

Because /usr/lib64/libmpfr.so is in the mpfr-devel package, not the
mpfr package.  This is not unique to mpfr.  All library packages in
Fedora do this.  See:

https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/packaging-guidelines/#_devel_packages
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Re: nm: /usr/lib64/libmpfr.so.6: no symbols

[Jerry James]

On Thu, Apr 7, 2022 at 3:50 PM Michael Hennebry
 wrote:
> I recently changed to F35 partly in the hope it would have gappa 1.4
> instead of F33's gappa 1.3 .
> No such luck, so I am trying to build from source.

I did not update F35 and below to gappa 1.4 because of some
incompatibilities.  Fedora 36 will have version 1.4.

> What is going on?
> With no symbols, how is the library ever used?
> I'd thought nm -a was supposed to list all of them.
>
>
> BTW I did eventually realize that libmpfr.so.6 is a soft link to the other.

Did you see Samuel Sieb's message?  He pointed you to the issue.
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Re: Perl is now failing for me

[James Szinger]

On Mon, 21 Feb 2022 00:22:13 -0800
Samuel Sieb  wrote:

> On 2/20/22 21:00, Fulko Hew wrote:
> > Thanks for pointing out that app, but I fail to see how having me
> > make an RPM for a
> > Fedora-unsupported module avoids the problem of incompatibilities 
> > between newer
> > Fedora sources packages and locally sourced packages (or locally
> > CPAN installed modules)
> > Or am I missing something?  
> 
> The benefit is that it's managed by the package manager, so it's easy
> to cleanly add, remove, and update it.  The alternative methods dump
> the files in various places and when a problem happens, you have to
> figure out where those problem files are.

A big advantage is that the package manager will complain if you
attempt an incompatible update.  You will know right away that you
need to fix something (even though DNF’s error messages can be hard to
decipher).

I learned this the hard way and haven’t used CPAN since.  Cpansec is
great (as is cpan2port).

Jim
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Mathematical packages: looking for maintainers

[Jerry James]

Hello all,

I first mentioned a couple of months ago that I would like to retire
from maintaining mathematical packages in Fedora, so that I can focus
on code analysis and formal methods packages.  Thank you to those who
responded and took some of those packages from me.  I still have quite
a pile left.  If you are a sagemath or Macaulay2 user, in particular,
please consider giving some of these packages a new home.

The packages are in good shape, mostly.  I still have a couple left
that failed the mass rebuild, but only a couple.  Almost all are on
their latest versions and need no immediate work.

Packages for which I am the primary maintainer
--
4ti2
GAPDoc
TOPCOM
antic
arb
azove
bigloo
bliss
carat
check
clblast
clisp
cocoalib
cohomCalg
coin-or-Data-Netlib
coin-or-Data-miplib3
coxeter
cryptominisat
csdp
cxsc
e-antic
ecl
eclib
ffcall
freetdi-gala
gap
gap-pkg-ace
gap-pkg-aclib
gap-pkg-alnuth
gap-pkg-atlasrep
gap-pkg-autodoc
gap-pkg-automata
gap-pkg-autpgrp
gap-pkg-browse
gap-pkg-caratinterface
gap-pkg-circle
gap-pkg-cohomolo
gap-pkg-congruence
gap-pkg-corelg
gap-pkg-crime
gap-pkg-crisp
gap-pkg-crypting
gap-pkg-cryst
gap-pkg-crystcat
gap-pkg-ctbllib
gap-pkg-curlinterface
gap-pkg-cvec
gap-pkg-datastructures
gap-pkg-design
gap-pkg-digraphs
gap-pkg-edim
gap-pkg-factint
gap-pkg-ferret
gap-pkg-fga
gap-pkg-fining
gap-pkg-float
gap-pkg-format
gap-pkg-forms
gap-pkg-fr
gap-pkg-francy
gap-pkg-gbnp
gap-pkg-genss
gap-pkg-grape
gap-pkg-groupoids
gap-pkg-grpconst
gap-pkg-guava
gap-pkg-hap
gap-pkg-hapcryst
gap-pkg-happrime
gap-pkg-hecke
gap-pkg-images
gap-pkg-io
gap-pkg-irredsol
gap-pkg-json
gap-pkg-jupyterkernel
gap-pkg-jupyterviz
gap-pkg-laguna
gap-pkg-liealgdb
gap-pkg-liepring
gap-pkg-liering
gap-pkg-loops
gap-pkg-lpres
gap-pkg-mapclass
gap-pkg-nautytracesinterface
gap-pkg-nq
gap-pkg-openmath
gap-pkg-orb
gap-pkg-polenta
gap-pkg-polycyclic
gap-pkg-polymaking
gap-pkg-primgrp
gap-pkg-profiling
gap-pkg-qpa
gap-pkg-quagroup
gap-pkg-radiroot
gap-pkg-recog
gap-pkg-repsn
gap-pkg-resclasses
gap-pkg-scscp
gap-pkg-semigroups
gap-pkg-singular
gap-pkg-sla
gap-pkg-smallgrp
gap-pkg-smallsemi
gap-pkg-sonata
gap-pkg-sophus
gap-pkg-spinsym
gap-pkg-tomlib
gap-pkg-toric
gap-pkg-transgrp
gap-pkg-utils
gap-pkg-uuid
gap-pkg-xmod
gap-pkg-zeromqinterface
gcl
gf2x
gfan
gmp-ecm
gnofract4d
java-diff-utils
javacc-maven-plugin
jline
jmol
jni-inchi
jol
juniversalchardet
latte-integrale
libgpuarray
libhomfly
libsemigroups
libsvm
linbox
lrslib
m4ri
m4rie
mathic
mathicgb
maven-doxia
maven-doxia-sitetools
maven-reporting-api
maven-reporting-impl
mcqd
memtailor
minisat2
mpfi
mpsolve
naga
nauty
normaliz
ocaml-tplib
pari
pari-elldata
pari-galdata
pari-galpol
pari-nflistdata
pari-nftables
pari-seadata
permlib
pl
polymake
polyml
primecount
pynac
python-BTrees
python-ZEO
python-ZODB
python-ZODB3
python-fastcache
python-gmpy2
python-j1m.sphinxautozconfig
python-jupymake
python-jupyter-kernel-singular
python-jupyter-polymake
python-manuel
python-pari-jupyter
python-persistent
python-pplpy
python-pysingular
python-random2
python-readthedocs-sphinx-ext
python-repoze-sphinx-autointerface
python-sphinx-copy-button
python-sphinx-math-dollar
python-sphinx-testing
python-sphinx_rtd_theme
python-sphinxcontrib-zopeext
python-tdlib
python-theano
python-zodbpickle
python-zope-testrunner
qd
qepcad-B
rubiks
saclib
scala
scalacheck
sharedmeataxe
sirocco
stp
subunit
symmetrica
sympol
sympy
tlx
tth
vinci
xgap
zn_poly

Packages for which I am comaintainer.  The primary maintainer is
listed after the package name.

cddlib: pcpa
flint: pcpa
givaro: mycae
libedit: branto
ntl: rdieter
tbb: trodgers; see https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/jjames/TBB2021/

Packages for which I am neither primary maintainer nor comaintainer, but I've
been maintaining them anyway.
-
L-function: pcpa
Macaulay2: rdieter
Singular: pcpa
brial: pcpa
cliquer: pcpa
fes: pcpa
frobby: rdieter
lrcalc: pcpa
palp: pcpa
planarity: pcpa
ppl: bagnara
python-cypari2: pcpa
python-cysignals: pcpa
python-fpylll: pcpa
rw: pcpa
sagemath: pcpa
surf-geometry: pcpa
sympow: pcpa

I am fairly certain that neither pcpa nor bagnara are active in Fedora anymore.
-- 
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Re: Picking a new laptop

[James Szinger]

On Tue, 1 Feb 2022 10:27:57 -0500
Neal Becker  wrote:

> My 'Ctrl-A' and 'Ctrl-E' work just fine (ctrl mapped to capslock
> where the unix gods intended)..  Alt is meta.  What do you mean by "I
> wish there were a Linux
> desktop that did that and used the Command key the right way also."?

Not for me.  Under F35 Mate:

emacsCtrl-A  beginning of line
bash Ctrl-A  beginning of line
firefox  Ctrl-A  select all

Mac OS:

emacsCtrl-A  beginning of line
bash Ctrl-A  beginning of line
firefox  Ctrl-A  beginning of line

The Linux keybindings are not consistent and thus do not work fine,
for my definition of fine.

For the command (or super) key, I want the follow global bindings:

command-A  select all
command-C  copy
command-P  print
command-Q  quit
etc.

Most of these are bound to the control key in Linux GUI applications.
This is annoying since in my brain the control key is bound to the
emacs-like functions.

Jim
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Re: Picking a new laptop

[James Szinger]

I have had good results from ThinkPads over the years.  The newest
addition is an E595 which "just works" with Fedors 35 and was
relatively affordable.  Business-class laptops and desktops also tend
to be designed with service in mind, so they can be fixed.

Another family member has an older HP Spectre X360 which runs mostly
fine—the main issue is that scales correctly to the 4k display.  This
affect both Linux and Windows.

Finally, I am enjoying the MacBook I use for work.  It runs all the
Unix software I want and 'Ctrl-A' and 'Ctrl-E' do the right thing in
Emacs, the terminal, and the web browser.  I wish there were a Linux
desktop that did that and used the Command key the right way also.

Jim

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Re: Network bridge with network-scripts

[James Szinger]

On Tue, 25 Jan 2022 01:48:24 +0100
Peter Boy  wrote:

> If you want your VMs to have access to the public network, then you
> have to share the host's public interface. The most convenient option
> is mac-vlan and to avoid a bridge. You don’t need to configure the
> host interface, but just the VMs to use „direct attachment“ in
> KVM/libvirt-speech. See Fedora Server documentation at
> https://docs.stg.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fedora-server/virtualization-vm-install-fedoraserver-cockpit/
> (it’s the staging version).
> 
> Konfiguration is much easier and it causes less system load. The only
> disadvantage is that the VMs cannot communicate directly with the
> host. But it is usually better to use an internal, protected network
> for this. 

This, for me, is a fatal limitation.  The web server needs to access
the database server and so on.  At home I have just one network and
every thing is internal.  At work we have an internal network and all
internet-facing services are on an isolated network with an industrial
grade firewall and application filter severely restricting access from
the internet.  All the hosts are already on an “internal” network of
some variety, so setting up a another one seems redundant.

I also feel that configuring the host for bridge mode is much more
convenient than installing a separate physical network.

Jim
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Re: python3dist(sphinx-math-dollar)

[James Szinger]

On Sat, 22 Jan 2022 07:48:47 -0500
Jonathan Billings  wrote:

> On Jan 22, 2022, at 06:35, Dorian ROSSE 
> wrote:
> > 
> > Have you tried 'pip3 install python3dist ' ?  
> 
> I never suggest Fedora users run ‘pip’ as root, except when in a
> virtualenv, dockerfile or some contained environment. 
> 
> It is far too easy for pip to overwrite or override a packaged python
> library and break system tools, such as the ones used in DNF. Once
> you’ve broken dnf, it is hard to fix those libraries since dnf is the
> tool to fix them. 

ObXKCD: 

But seriously, I used to use the cpan command to install missing Perl
modules.  That led to many interesting problems, especially after
system updates.  I now build my own RPMs (cpanspec is great).  The has
many advantages: the same software is available on many computers,
system and package updates are easy, and the spec file documents how
thee software was built.  The current Fedora packaging tooling also
makes it easy to build Python packages as RPMs.


It would be great if the Fedora project were to emphasize the
advantages to sysadmins and developers of build their own RPMs.

Jim
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Re: Interactive task scheduling (system) ? How do I run a list of tasks consecutively on a server ?

[James Szinger]

On Fri, 21 Jan 2022 11:31:25 -0700
linux guy  wrote:

> Is there anything simpler than Torque ?

There is the standard UNIX batch command.  It is about as simple as
can be.  Certainly much simpler than the VMS and MVS batch systems
back in the day.  

There also seem to be several Node.JS batch queuing systems.

Jim
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Re: ocatve

[Jerry James]

On Thu, Jan 20, 2022 at 5:01 AM Patrick Dupre  wrote:
> When I run octave with
>
> pkg load symbolic
> and
> syms x
> I
> get
> Symbolic pkg v2.9.0: Traceback (most recent call last):
>   File "", line 28, in 
> AttributeError: '_PrintFunction' object has no attribute '__globals__'
> Traceback (most recent call last):
>   File "", line 1, in 
>   File "", line 12, in octoutput_drv
>   File "", line 54, in octoutput
>   File "", line 55, in octoutput
> AttributeError: module 'sympy' has no attribute 'compatibility'
> Closing the Python communications link.

Octave's symbolic module still wants sympy 1.5, but sympy in Fedora
has moved on to later versions.  See
https://github.com/cbm755/octsympy/issues/1023.
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Re: ocatve

[James Szinger]

On Thu, 20 Jan 2022 13:00:56 +0100
Patrick Dupre  wrote:

> When I run octave with
> 
> pkg load symbolic
> and
> syms x
> I
> get
> Symbolic pkg v2.9.0: Traceback (most recent call last):
>   File "", line 28, in 
[cut]
> It seems that it is an identified bug, due to sympy

Is there a Fedora bugzilla entry?  If not you should file one.  How
about upstream?

> This is really more than annoying.
> if we cannot use the symbolic package with octave
> 
> Do you more about the future of this packages?

I have no idea; this is the first I have heard of this package.  You
will get a better answer if you contact the Fedora packager and
upstream.

Jim
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Re: Updating F32 (with Nvidia drivers) and startup hangs.

[Jerry James]

On Sat, Jan 1, 2022 at 1:07 PM  wrote:
> Can you confirm that you need CUDA and not only the nvidia drivers ?
>
> If yes, I suggest to not use the rpmfusion repositories since they don't
> provide CUDA. See below.

They don't?  Then what are the xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-cuda and
xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-cuda-libs packages provided by rpmfusion?
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Re: OT: Linux kernel version in fiber modem

[James Szinger]

On Sat, 25 Dec 2021 03:15:50 -0800
Jonathan Ryshpan  wrote:

> On a whim I opened up the:
>Legal Disclaimer Open Source Licenses
> in the management page for my fiber modem (ATT installed 2021/03/30)
> and discovered that the kernel is rather old:
>linux kernel - Version 3.4.11
> There are about 163 other open source components, probably most of
> similar ages.
> 
> Is this a security problem?

I would not worry too much about it.  All the equally old stuff in
userspace is a bigger concern.

On the other hand, my ISP already has complete control of my cable
modem; they apply firmware updates and manage the configuration.  All
I can do is log in and view the status report.  The modem is
effectively part of the ISP infrastructure, which is already beyond my
control.

My modem runs in bridge mode and I have a separate router to interface
with the LAN.  This provides a clear demarcation between the ISP and
my LAN.

Jim
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Re: Seeking maintainers of mathematical packages

[Jerry James]

Hi Oğuz,

On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 11:35 PM Oğuz Ersen via users
 wrote:
> I have no packaging experience and not a packager myself, so can I take
> `material-icons-fonts` since that one seems easy? My fas username is ersen.

You're not a packager.  So that means you need a sponsor?  If so,
contact me offline and I'll talk to you about how we can approach
that.  Thanks for speaking up!
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Re: Seeking maintainers of mathematical packages

[Jerry James]

Sorry for the late reply.  I thought I would post this just before the
American Thanksgiving holiday, so that people would have a chance to
look it over while on break.  I didn't think ahead, though, to realize
that *I* wasn't going to have much time for Fedora work during the
holiday.  I had a great time, but pretty much ignored Fedora. :-)

On Sat, Nov 20, 2021 at 6:10 AM Peter Boy  wrote:
> > Am 19.11.2021 um 22:50 schrieb Jerry James :
> > maven-doxia
> > maven-doxia-sitetools
> > maven-reporting-api
> > maven-reporting-impl
>
> These do not relate solely to the collection of mathematical packages? Will 
> mizdebsk (automatically) take them on alone?

That's a good question.  Let's see what needs these packages.  Using
the command "dnf --repo=rawhide --repo=rawhide-source repoquery
--whatrequires [package] --alldeps", I came up with this dependency
tree (after simplifying a bit), just to give an idea of where these
packages lie with respect to the rest of Fedora:

https://jamezone.org/pleasure/software/Fedora/maven.pdf

> Wow, this could pass for "digital artwork“.  :-)

Thanks! :-)
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Re: Where are the src RPM's?

[Jerry James]

On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 1:20 PM ToddAndMargo via users
 wrote:
> I am looking for the SRPM's for FC34.  I can
> only find the rpms.  Where are the SRC RPM's
> hiding?

Not all mirrors carry them.  My local mirror does:

http://mirrors.xmission.com/fedora/linux/releases/34/Everything/source/tree/Packages/
http://mirrors.xmission.com/fedora/linux/updates/34/Everything/source/tree/Packages/

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Re: stream TO airplay/sonos

[James Szinger]

On Tue, 23 Nov 2021 09:31:50 -0600
SternData  wrote:

> Unfortunately, I can't find any "raop" support in the Fedora repos. 
> Thanks very much for getting me this far.

It is in pulseaudio-module-zeroconf.

Jim
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Seeking maintainers of mathematical packages

[Jerry James]

y maintainer is listed after the package name.

cddlib: pcpa
flint: pcpa
givaro: mycae
libedit: branto
ntl: rdieter
tbb: trodgers; see https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/jjames/TBB2021/
 for my take on what the next version of tbb should look like

Packages for which I am neither primary maintainer nor comaintainer, but
I've
been maintaining them anyway.  As above, this serves as notice to the
primary
maintainer that I am stepping away from active maintenance of these
packages.
-
L-function: pcpa
Macaulay2: rdieter
Singular: pcpa
brial: pcpa
cliquer: pcpa
fes: pcpa
frobby: rdieter
lrcalc: pcpa
palp: pcpa
planarity: pcpa
ppl: bagnara
python-cypari2: pcpa
python-cysignals: pcpa
python-fpylll: pcpa
rw: pcpa
sagemath: pcpa
surf-geometry: pcpa
sympow: pcpa

As far as I know, neither bagnara nor pcpa is actively involved in Fedora
anymore, so once I step away from their packages, the packages will
effectively be unmaintained.

If you want to see how these packages are related to each other, here is a
graph showing all of the packages I am involved with in Fedora:

https://jamezone.org/pleasure/software/Fedora/fedora.pdf

The black ovals are packages for which I am primary maintainer, blue are
packages for which I am comaintainer, green are packages for which I am
neither but I maintain the package anyway, and red are packages that I
normally don't touch except for the occasional rebuild due to an soname
bump or similar.  The ones I am talking about stepping away from are
primarily on the right half of the diagram.

Regards,
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Re: crontab -e now invokes nano! ARGH!!!

[Jerry James]

On Tue, Nov 16, 2021 at 11:19 AM Robert Moskowitz  wrote:
> F35 change from F32; may have occurred earlier.
>
> VI was sooo easy to use.
>
> Now I have to learn nano?
>
> Old timer sheesh.

Uninstall the nano-default-editor package.  Install the
vim-default-editor package.  Log out and log back in.  Bask in the
glory of vim. :-)
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Re: NVIDIA Legacy drivers

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On Sat, Nov 13, 2021 at 8:52 AM Tim Evans  wrote:
> Thanks, Jonathan.  Guess I wasn't clear:  how do you switch BACK?  Don't
> I need to remove the Nvidia packages?  Is kernel rebuilt by package
> deletions to remove the Nvidia mods?

See https://rpmfusion.org/Howto/NVIDIA#Switching_between_nouveau.2Fnvidia
for instructions on switching between nouveau and the nvidia driver.
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Re: Fedora image on flash drive bootable both UEFI and Legacy

[James Szinger]

On Tue, 2 Nov 2021 20:19:10 +0100
"Petr Menšík"  wrote:
> I would like to have my flash drive prepared with recent Live image. I
> know how to write image to an usb drive and how to boot it.
> 
> However, I carry 64GB large disk on my keys and I would like to have
> two things:
> 
> - bootable live image
> - data partition for common files, visible from Windows
> - should boot both on recent computer with UEFI preference
> - should boot also on older computer with legacy boot only.

The program livecd-iso-to-disk from the package livecd-iso-to-mediums
can do the first three parts.  Then with a bit of care one can hack in
BIOS boot support.  I am not aware of an automatic tool, but basically
one creates a hybrid partition table and manually installs the BIOS
bootloader without disturbing the EFI one.  It has been several years
since I did this, and I have forgotten the details.  A web search
should help.

Maybe a second run of livecd-iso-to-disk can do it if you do not
reformat the second time.

> I understand my expectations are not very low. But because the image
> itself can boot on both architectures, I would hope there exist tools
> able to prepare such configuration.

I do not know of a canned solution.

> Unfortunately, gdisk can display partition tables on image only
> partially. It is not able to modify it and add another data partition
> after image ends. Which were the only required step after dd
> if=Fedora-Workstation-Live-x86_64-35-1.2.iso of=/dev/sdc as I naively
> thought.
> 
> Do you know if is even theoretically possible? Are there existing
> tools able to create both GPT and MBR tables, just like on Fedora
> images? How are those images created?

It is theoretically possible and most likely also practically
possible.

I think the Fedora images are created by livemedia-creator.

Jim
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Re: Using python to get a list of repositories, including RHEL

[James Szinger]

On Mon, 01 Nov 2021 21:52:33 -
"Philip Kauffman"  wrote:
> My goal is to use a python script to get all a systems repositories
> in a data structure (list,dict,whatever). I've gotten most of the way
> there with the below which is able to get all repositories in
> /etc/yum.repos.d/*.repo. However, I can't find any reference to how
> to also make python3-dnf get the RHEL repositories as well... even
> though it is clearly capable of doing so (see below). 
> 
> Any pointers would be greatly appreciated.

Your script produces the expected output on my Fedora 34 system,
listing all the active and inactive repos.  Of course, it lists no
RHEL repos, since I do not have any.  I also get similar resul;ts in a
CentOS 8 container.

I don’t have RHEL, so I cannot help with that part.  You might want to
ask RH for RHEL-specific advice.

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Re: Today's dnf update hangs on papirus-icon-theme-20210901-2.fc35?

[James Szinger]

On Mon, 1 Nov 2021 14:15:14 -0400
Neal Becker  wrote:

> Just to followup, after dnf removing papirus-icon-theme (which I
> didn't need), dnf update completes normally.
> 
> On Mon, Nov 1, 2021 at 1:30 PM Neal Becker 
> wrote:
> >
> > dnf seems to just hang on this update, using 100% cpu:
> >
> > papirus-icon-theme-20210901-2.fc35.noarch.rpm

I just let it run.  It took twenty minutes, but completed without error.

Jim
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Re: DNF update installing unwanted GRUB packages

[James Szinger]

On Tue, 5 Oct 2021 13:40:51 -0500
Ian Pilcher  wrote:

> I use systemd-boot, so I try to avoid having unneeded GRUB packages
> installed.  When I run dnf update, grub2-tools-efi and
> grub2-tools-extra get installed, even though they aren't required by
> any of my other installed packages.
> 
> I already have install_weak_deps=False set in dnf.conf.
> 
> Anyone have any idea why DNF is installing these packages?
> 

For some reason, grub2-tools-efi and grub2-tools-extra obsolete
grub2-tools, and they get pulled in on every update.  This is arguably
a packaging bug, and I suggest that you file a bug report.

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Re: Entitlement Server?

[Jerry James]

On Tue, Aug 10, 2021 at 9:50 PM Ed Greshko  wrote:
> On 11/08/2021 08:57, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote:
> > At the latest upgrade the following strange message appeared.   What is it 
> > about?   Do need to take any action?
> > $ sudo dnf upgrade
> > [sudo] password for jonrysh:
> > Updating Subscription Management repositories.
> > Unable to read consumer identity
> >
> > This system is not registered with an entitlement server. You can use 
> > subscription-manager to register.
> >
>
> Sounds like you have a non-fedora repo enabled for which a subscription is 
> needed.
>
> Output of
>
> dnf repolist --enabled

I've seen that on CentOS machines.  It just means that you haven't
signed up for a RHEL account.  I have to wonder if Jonathan is running
Fedora at all.
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Re: libvirt virsh define {vm_dumpxml.xml} does not work

[James Szinger]

On Mon, 9 Aug 2021 00:42:08 +0200
Peter Boy  wrote:

> In the process to migrate from CentOS 8 to Fedora I saved the
> definition of various VMs using "virsh dumpxml vm_id  >  vm_id.xml“ 
> 
> According to the manual I can restore using "virsh define vm_id.xml“
> 
> But I get
> Error: Can’t check QEMU program file /usr/libexec/qemu-kvm: file or
> directory not found 
> 
> A "dnf provides '/usr/libexec/qemu-kvm*‘“ can’t find a package.

It loks like they changed the path to the emulator.
On CentOS 7 I see

  
/usr/libexec/qemu-kvm

but on Fedora 34 I see

  
/usr/bin/qemu-kvm

You might want to create a new VM in Fedora just to see what else has
changed.  Perhaps even import the disk image into a fresh VM.

Jim
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Re: OT: ink jet printers

[James Szinger]

On Wed, 7 Jul 2021 07:55:21 +0200
Peter Boy  wrote:

> > Am 07.07.2021 um 00:33 schrieb James Szinger :
> > 
> > On Tue, 6 Jul 2021 09:57:47 -0600
> > Greg Woods  wrote:
> >   
> >> Question #2 is, are any of the all-in-one laser printers any good
> >> and work (all functions) with Fedora Linux?  
> > 
> > I currently have an HP Color LaserJet MFP M477fdw.  It prints great
> > from Fedora, CentOS, Mac OS, iOS, MS Windows, and Android.  I
> > usually scan to e-mail or USB disk.  I can also scan over the
> > network from Fedora 34 with xsane and airscan.  
> 
> From my experience of about 30 years the HP software support or
> multifunction laser printers is really superb and works smoothly.
> There is no difference to inkjet devices. For that reason I avoid any
> of the cheaper laser printer alternatives. It’s not worth the
> headache and the time to spend resolving issues. For heavy load and
> quality requirements Lexmark is an alternative.

My current HP support “driverless” printing with all the smarts on the
printer.  All the devices I list above just discover it on the network
and print without installing additional software.  A previous DeskJet
became trash when HP didn’t update the drivers to support the latest
MacOS.  Well, that and the clogged nozzles.

I also had a Lexmark that died after only 8 years of light home use.
I hope the current LaserJet lasts as long as the previous ones.

Jim
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Re: OT: ink jet printers

[James Szinger]

On Tue, 6 Jul 2021 09:57:47 -0600
Greg Woods  wrote:

> Well, not completely OT because I do need one that will work on
> Fedora.
> 
> I have found a number of ink jet all-in-ones that work well on
> Fedora, from Epson, HP, and Brother. The problem is that I don't use
> the printer all that much, and every single one of them eventually
> (after I've had it for a few months) develops a head clog that is so
> bad that not even the printer's cleaning cycle can fix it. I have
> tried some of the cleaning kits with not much success (I'm a lousy
> handyman), and even if I could get the cleaning kits to work, I'd
> rather find a printer where I can avoid this headache.

I gave up on ink jet printers because of this.

> So, is there any such thing as an all-in-one ink jet printer that
> does not suffer from this problem if it is not used regularly?
> Question #2 is, are any of the all-in-one laser printers any good and
> work (all functions) with Fedora Linux?

I currently have an HP Color LaserJet MFP M477fdw.  It prints great
from Fedora, CentOS, Mac OS, iOS, MS Windows, and Android.  I usually
scan to e-mail or USB disk.  I can also scan over the network from
Fedora 34 with xsane and airscan.

Jim
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Re: conflict between mythtv and rtl-sdr

[James Szinger]

On Mon, 28 Jun 2021 09:18:59 -0500
Roger Heflin  wrote:

> It looks like the prior udev rule put the dvb adapters in video.
> Since their are both video and radio devices maybe "video" should
> really be renamed as "dvb" and/or maybe the rtl package should simply
> add itself to video and not use its own group.

udev uses the video group by default for dvb and other video devices.
Many of these devices also support audio radio. I do not know why
rtl-sdr chose to override this, but it seems problematic.

> It seems like the packagers of the RPM did not really consider that
> dvb includes both video and radio devices.  It is probably almost
> impossible for any udev rule to know which devices are radio and which
> are video to separate the devices.

The RTL-SDR dongle is a DVB (TV) receiver that uses the computer’s CPU
to decode the video.  Other software can decode the data stream in
other ways, thus its application to software-defined radio.  My dongle
claims to support DVB-T, DAB, and FM.  North America uses ATSC for
digital TV, so here it does not matter, but it matters where DVB-T is
the TV broadcast standard.  The OP is having problems using the device
to receive TV.

I think the best workaround is to copy
/usr/lib/udev/rules.d/10-rtl-sdr.rules to /etc/udev/rules.d/ and
change the group to video.  It might also work to create an empty
/etc/udev/rules.d/10-rtl-sdr.rules file, but I have not tested it.

File a bug against rtl-sdr since the package interferes with the
intended use of the device.

Maybe also file a bug against rng-tools asking them to remove the
dependency on rtl-sdr.

> I don't have an SDR dongle, I was thinking about getting one, and mine
> would also be on my mythtv machine.   If it is a DVB device I don't
> see any other way except both using a shared group of some name.

It depends on your local TV broadcast standards.

> Since mythtv is using the system default "video" it probably means the
> rtl rpm packagers should either suggest that all use a new group of
> dvb, or just use the already defined "video" group for their package.

Right, I see no reason not to use the well-known video group.

>   On your machine the crude fix would be to change the rtlsdr group to
> have the same GID as video and find + chgrp all files that currently
> have the old gid to the new gid.

Far too ugly, IMHO.

> question about SDR: How well does it work and which one do you have?
> And how well does it work?

I have an older generic dongle, currently about $20 online.  I used it
some with gqrx and had no problems.  I pulled in commercial FM and
2-meter ham.

Jim

> 
> On Sun, Jun 27, 2021 at 7:52 PM Eyal Lebedinsky
>  wrote:
> >
> > After a recent update which installed
> > rtl-sdr-0.6.0-9.fc34.x86_64
> > mythbackend failed to see the tuners. This was caused by these
> > permissions: crw-rw+ 1 root rtlsdr 212,  3 Jun 20 23:10
> > /dev/dvb/adapter0/frontend0 set by
> > /usr/lib/udev/rules.d/10-rtl-sdr.rules
> > and mythbackend is not a member of rtlsdr group.
> >
> > There seems to be a conflict between mythtv-backend and rtl-sdr.
> > How should this be resolved? Is it proper for one package (rtl-sdr)
> > to take ownership of these devices?
> >
> > ATM I just change the permissions of dvb tuners from rc.local but
> > this is not ideal. Or I could add mythtv user to rtlsdr group.
> >
> > TIA
> >
> > --
> > Eyal Lebedinsky (fed...@eyal.emu.id.au)
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Re: Tor killed my other browsers; Name or service not known; uninstalling does not help

[James Szinger]

On Fri, 25 Jun 2021 17:33:04 -0400
Tom Horsley  wrote:

> On Fri, 25 Jun 2021 14:20:30 -0700
> ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
> 
> > Kernel 5.12.12-300 breaks host resolution
> > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1976371  
> 
> Very weird that the kernel could break name resolution since that
> all works at library level. Maybe some "deprecated" interface
> is being used by 99% of the lookup code, and they got rid of
> it completely in the new kernel?

I had name resolution break on one of my F34 computers after the latest
kernel update.  Restarting systemd-resolved fixed the problem.  I
rebooted and the same thing happened: no DNS until systemd-resolved
was restarted.

None of systemctl status, dmesg, or journalclt showed anything
suspicious or interesting.

My other Fedora computers are fine.  I suspect the difference is that
the problem computer is using bridged networking instead of a direct
ethernet connection.  Perhaps a timing issue with the bridge?

Jim
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Re: fedpkg

[Jerry James]

On Sat, Jun 19, 2021 at 4:01 PM Patrick Dupre  wrote:
>
> Yes,
>
> How to I extract the .tgz (or the .spec) file from a src.rpm ?

If you run "rpm -i https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/gsl/tree/rawhide

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Re: rpmbuild perl-PDL-Graphics-PLplot

[Jerry James]

On Sat, Jun 19, 2021 at 9:00 AM Patrick Dupre  wrote:
> This spec file provide the an error.
> Can you help me to fix it?

You didn't show the compiler flags in use, so this is just a guess, but ...

> cc1: some warnings being treated as errors

... this message suggests that -Werror is included.  Remove that and
see what happens.

> BuildRoot:  %{_tmppath}/%{name}-%{version}-%{release}-root-%(%{__id_u} -n)

Remove the BuildRoot line.  That hasn't been needed for years.

> Requires:   perl(PDL)

This Requires *should* be autogenerated.  Try removing it and see if
the binary package includes an equivalent Requires.

> make %{?_smp_mflags}

Use %make_build instead.

> %install
> rm -rf $RPM_BUILD_ROOT

Remove the second line above.  It is unnecessary and occasionally dangerous.

> %clean
> rm -rf $RPM_BUILD_ROOT

Remove the entire %clean section.  RPM already does this for you.

> %defattr(-,root,root,-)

Remove the %defattr line.  RPM already does this for you.
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Re: scilab bin

[Jerry James]

On Fri, Jun 18, 2021 at 2:40 PM Patrick Dupre  wrote:
> But
>
> scilab-bin: symbol lookup error: /lib64/libk5crypto.so.3: undefined symbol: 
> EVP_KDF_ctrl, version OPENSSL_1_1_1b

Take a look here:

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1829790

This seems to mean that scilab has its own openssl library, and that
leads to symbol conflicts.
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Re: network manager spamming logs with repetitive messages

[Jerry James]

On Mon, Jun 7, 2021 at 8:59 AM Frank  wrote:
> Anyway I did as you suggested, but unless I put that extra keyword into
> /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf (hostname-mode=none) the
>
> repetitive logging continues.  I used hostnamectl to make all the names
> match, but it needed that keyword.  Is that what you had to do or
>
> was simply making the names match enough ?

For me it was enough, yes.

I've got a machine with a fresh Fedora 34 installation on it.  On that
one, hostnamectl says:

   Static hostname: n/a
Transient hostname: fedora

And I'm not seeing the log spam.
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Re: network manager spamming logs with repetitive messages

[Jerry James]

On Sun, Jun 6, 2021 at 10:20 AM Frank  wrote:
>
> I noticed this morning that network manager is spamming my log with
> messages repeated every 3 or 4 seconds.
>
>
> Jun 06 11:58:22 localhost.localdomain NetworkManager[787]: 
> [1622995102.8297] policy: set-hostname: current hostname was changed
> outside NetworkManager: fedora
>
> Jun 06 11:58:22 localhost.localdomain NetworkManager[787]: 
> [1622995102.8299] policy: set-hostname: set hostname to
> localhost.localdomain (from address lookup)
>
>
> It repeats these messages every 3 or 4 seconds.
>
> This apparently has been going on for a few days at least.
>
> There is a bug 1894137 -  But it was filed last November.

Also https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1893223, filed last
October.  And see:

https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/de...@lists.fedoraproject.org/message/SV26LZTNV42GXBMZVYAFRMBBGKYUI7VN/

For me, running "hostnamectl" showed that the static hostname was
"localhost" and the transient hostname was "fedora", apparently
because somebody thought the latter was a good idea.  The nonmatching
hostnames triggered NetworkManager to spam the logs, which is the
second bug.  Both should be fixed, but the fact that nobody is paying
attention to bugs filed last fall is not encouraging.

The workaround I resorted to was to use hostnamectl to make the static
and transient hostnames match.
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Re: aegisub no more working after update...

[Jerry James]

On Fri, Apr 16, 2021 at 4:40 AM François Patte
 wrote:
> I just update my system (fc-32) and aegisub is no more working: I can
> open subtitlefiles but not the corresponding video...
>
> Here the message:
>
> (aegisub:347417): Gdk-ERROR **: 12:08:25.195: The program 'aegisub'
> received an X Window System error.
> This probably reflects a bug in the program.
> The error was 'BadValue (integer parameter out of range for operation)'.
>(Details: serial 37349 error_code 2 request_code 150 (GLX) minor_code 24)
>(Note to programmers: normally, X errors are reported asynchronously;
> that is, you will receive the error a while after causing it.
> To debug your program, run it with the GDK_SYNCHRONIZE environment
> variable to change this behavior. You can then get a meaningful
> backtrace from your debugger if you break on the gdk_x_error()
> function.)

The aegisub package is not distributed by Fedora, but rather by
rpmfusion.  You should file a bug and include the information above.
See here for how to do that:

https://rpmfusion.org/ReportingBugs

That will alert the package maintainer to the problem.  It's possible
that aegisub just needs to be rebuilt against the latest GTK library,
but the maintainer can help determine that.  Good luck!
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Re: How to kickstart a workstation installation?

[James Szinger]

On Wed, 14 Apr 2021 10:33:27 -0500
Thomas Cameron  wrote:
> 
> How the heck do I kickstart a workstation? Preferably from the 
> F33-Everything DVD image so I can set up Xfce.

Check out the --kickstart option to livecd-iso-to-disk.  The last tiem
I did this I used a command like:

livecd-iso-to-disk --format --reset-mbr --ks /tmp/inst.ks \
/mnt/data/iso/CentOS7/CentOS-7-x86_64-NetInstall-1804.iso /dev/sdd

to create a bootable USB drive with a kickstart.  It should work the
same for Fedora as CentOS.

Or you can add the inst.ks for anaconda when you boot the DVD, but you
need to type it in.  Or put the ISO and kickstart on a PXE server.

Jim
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