Re: Killing only selected Chrome windows from the CLI ?
>You're not the only one. I also have to restrain myself whenever I see >certain posters using the non-existent pronoun 'i' or starting >sentences in lower-case, but experience shows that remarking on it is >usually a waste of time and energy. I think it is worth it to repeat this though. I am am example that people can learn. Sincerely, signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Killing only selected Chrome windows from the CLI ?
On 03/27/2018 07:30 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 03/27/2018 06:18 PM, JD wrote: I think you are way way too stressed out. I am merely trying to reduce my typing as I am not such a good typist. He wasn't the only one thinking it, though. I was considering making the same comment. __ Har :):):);) Knock yerselves out ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Killing only selected Chrome windows from the CLI ?
On Tue, 2018-03-27 at 18:30 -0700, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 03/27/2018 06:18 PM, JD wrote: > > I think you are way way too stressed out. > > I am merely trying to reduce my typing as I am not such a good typist. > > He wasn't the only one thinking it, though. I was considering making > the same comment. You're not the only one. I also have to restrain myself whenever I see certain posters using the non-existent pronoun 'i' or starting sentences in lower-case, but experience shows that remarking on it is usually a waste of time and energy. poc ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Killing only selected Chrome windows from the CLI ?
On Wed, 2018-03-28 at 09:13 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 03/28/18 09:03, Rick Stevens wrote: > > On 03/27/2018 04:27 PM, JD wrote: > > > > > > > if the load is still high, at least u will have eliminated that window. > > > so try this with each window and check the cpu load. > > > > > > > > > While u r at it, also check the mem usage of chrome. High mem usage > > > can cause a lot of paging and even swapping if u r a small ram. But if > > > you have plethora of RAM, then u need not worry about it. U should have > > > at least 2 X RAM as SWAP space. Since I run a lot of apps, I have 4X RAM > > > as SWAP on HD. > > > > Is it possible that while "u r @ it", you could try typing out the words > > instead of using inane social media jargon? This is a mailing list, not > > a bloody Twitter feed. I can feel my IQ drop when I see such a posting. > > > > (Sorry, but someone has to say it!) > > Thank you for that! Hear hear. poc ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Killing only selected Chrome windows from the CLI ?
Tom, On 2018-03-28 10:37, Tom Horsley wrote: Possibly relevant enhancement that might appear someday is discussed in this bug report: https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=766068 (I don't get the impression you should hold out hope for "someday" to be soon though). Interesting but it doesn't sound like my problem and you are probably right - don't hold my breath again . . Thanks, Phil. -- Philip Rhoades PO Box 896 Cowra NSW 2794 Australia E-mail: p...@pricom.com.au ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Killing only selected Chrome windows from the CLI ?
JD, On 2018-03-28 10:27, JD wrote: On 03/26/2018 07:53 PM, Philip Rhoades wrote: Samuel, On 2018-03-27 12:18, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 03/26/2018 05:59 PM, Philip Rhoades wrote: but it is not what I want to do - when Chrome goes mad and the whole system starts grinding to a halt (I know from experience it is Chrome) I want to try and work out what specific Chrome tab or window is the problem. Chrome has its own task manager: If you run top, which process is using the CPU? Just kill that one, then go through your chrome tabs and find out which tab has the sad face on it. That usually doesn't work from my recollection, no individual tab seems to be a problem - it is either Chrome as a whole or a whole window I think . . obviously shutting down all of Chrome fixes the problem . . but it is a pain to gradually re-open all the windows I previously had open again . . P. Phil, How about using the trial and error method. Kill one window (press the X on the right hand upper corner :) ) and then check the cpu load in a full screen cli window. if the load is still high, at least u will have eliminated that window. so try this with each window and check the cpu load. The one that brings the load down (after killing it :) ) is the culprit. The problem is that the GUI becomes VERY unresponsive so that is why I preferred a CLI method - because terms seemed relatively unaffected and I don't have to use mouse clicks - but also because it would be nice to just iterate through a list killing IDs of something and immediately know what was happening - it still might require killing every single Chrome process of course . . It is also odd that the graphical CPU and disk activity indicators do not show much happening but that might be because of the afore-mentioned GUI unresponsiveness - I can definitely HEAR more disk activity and top SEEMS to show more CPU activity of Chrome processes. The problem seems to go rapidly exponential from minor interactive delays to the GUI being almost unusable with longer and longer waits between the mouse being responsive - so I don't have a convenient before and after problem view of what was happening with top. I might see if I can log the top output to disk and find a method of reliably recreating the problem . . While u r at it, also check the mem usage of chrome. High mem usage can cause a lot of paging and even swapping if u r a small ram. But if you have plethora of RAM, then u need not worry about it. U should have at least 2 X RAM as SWAP space. Since I run a lot of apps, I have 4X RAM as SWAP on HD. 32GB RAM and 32GB of SWAP which doesn't get used. I will keep working on it but at the moment, it looks like ALL Chrome processes start using more RAM and cause more disk activity . . Thanks, Phil. -- Philip Rhoades PO Box 896 Cowra NSW 2794 Australia E-mail: p...@pricom.com.au ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Killing only selected Chrome windows from the CLI ?
On 03/27/2018 06:18 PM, JD wrote: I think you are way way too stressed out. I am merely trying to reduce my typing as I am not such a good typist. He wasn't the only one thinking it, though. I was considering making the same comment. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Killing only selected Chrome windows from the CLI ?
On 03/27/2018 07:03 PM, Rick Stevens wrote: On 03/27/2018 04:27 PM, JD wrote: if the load is still high, at least u will have eliminated that window. so try this with each window and check the cpu load. While u r at it, also check the mem usage of chrome. High mem usage can cause a lot of paging and even swapping if u r a small ram. But if you have plethora of RAM, then u need not worry about it. U should have at least 2 X RAM as SWAP space. Since I run a lot of apps, I have 4X RAM as SWAP on HD. Is it possible that while "u r @ it", you could try typing out the words instead of using inane social media jargon? This is a mailing list, not a bloody Twitter feed. I can feel my IQ drop when I see such a posting. (Sorry, but someone has to say it!) I think you are way way too stressed out. I am merely trying to reduce my typing as I am not such a good typist. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Killing only selected Chrome windows from the CLI ?
On 03/28/18 09:03, Rick Stevens wrote: > On 03/27/2018 04:27 PM, JD wrote: > > >> if the load is still high, at least u will have eliminated that window. >> so try this with each window and check the cpu load. > > >> While u r at it, also check the mem usage of chrome. High mem usage >> can cause a lot of paging and even swapping if u r a small ram. But if >> you have plethora of RAM, then u need not worry about it. U should have >> at least 2 X RAM as SWAP space. Since I run a lot of apps, I have 4X RAM >> as SWAP on HD. > Is it possible that while "u r @ it", you could try typing out the words > instead of using inane social media jargon? This is a mailing list, not > a bloody Twitter feed. I can feel my IQ drop when I see such a posting. > > (Sorry, but someone has to say it!) Thank you for that! -- Conjecture is just a conclusion based on incomplete information. It isn't a fact. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Killing only selected Chrome windows from the CLI ?
On 03/27/2018 04:27 PM, JD wrote: > if the load is still high, at least u will have eliminated that window. > so try this with each window and check the cpu load. > While u r at it, also check the mem usage of chrome. High mem usage > can cause a lot of paging and even swapping if u r a small ram. But if > you have plethora of RAM, then u need not worry about it. U should have > at least 2 X RAM as SWAP space. Since I run a lot of apps, I have 4X RAM > as SWAP on HD. Is it possible that while "u r @ it", you could try typing out the words instead of using inane social media jargon? This is a mailing list, not a bloody Twitter feed. I can feel my IQ drop when I see such a posting. (Sorry, but someone has to say it!) -- - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer, AllDigitalri...@alldigital.com - - AIM/Skype: therps2ICQ: 22643734Yahoo: origrps2 - -- -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Killing only selected Chrome windows from the CLI ?
Possibly relevant enhancement that might appear someday is discussed in this bug report: https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=766068 (I don't get the impression you should hold out hope for "someday" to be soon though). ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Killing only selected Chrome windows from the CLI ?
On 03/26/2018 07:53 PM, Philip Rhoades wrote: Samuel, On 2018-03-27 12:18, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 03/26/2018 05:59 PM, Philip Rhoades wrote: but it is not what I want to do - when Chrome goes mad and the whole system starts grinding to a halt (I know from experience it is Chrome) I want to try and work out what specific Chrome tab or window is the problem. Chrome has its own task manager: If you run top, which process is using the CPU? Just kill that one, then go through your chrome tabs and find out which tab has the sad face on it. That usually doesn't work from my recollection, no individual tab seems to be a problem - it is either Chrome as a whole or a whole window I think . . obviously shutting down all of Chrome fixes the problem . . but it is a pain to gradually re-open all the windows I previously had open again . . P. Phil, How about using the trial and error method. Kill one window (press the X on the right hand upper corner :) ) and then check the cpu load in a full screen cli window. if the load is still high, at least u will have eliminated that window. so try this with each window and check the cpu load. The one that brings the load down (after killing it :) ) is the culprit. While u r at it, also check the mem usage of chrome. High mem usage can cause a lot of paging and even swapping if u r a small ram. But if you have plethora of RAM, then u need not worry about it. U should have at least 2 X RAM as SWAP space. Since I run a lot of apps, I have 4X RAM as SWAP on HD. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Killing only selected Chrome windows from the CLI ?
On Tue, 2018-03-27 at 12:19 +1100, Philip Rhoades wrote: > > If enought people scream > > at google for such an interface, then google /might/ provide such a > > cli. > > > I won't be holding my breath - there are so many other common-sense app > things that Google has not done for years, I wouldn't even bother asking > for this . . This is the main reason I switched to Firefox a couple of months back, when they released the Quantum version. I find it much better behaved in general (though it can occasionally start soaking up CPU on some script-obsessed pages like Facebook it does seem to be less of a memory hog). YMMV of course. poc ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Killing only selected Chrome windows from the CLI ?
Todd, On 2018-03-27 15:41, Todd Zullinger wrote: Philip Rhoades wrote: On 2018-03-27 12:18, Samuel Sieb wrote: If you run top, which process is using the CPU? Just kill that one, then go through your chrome tabs and find out which tab has the sad face on it. That usually doesn't work from my recollection, no individual tab seems to be a problem - it is either Chrome as a whole or a whole window I think . . obviously shutting down all of Chrome fixes the problem . . but it is a pain to gradually re-open all the windows I previously had open again . . Times like that, 'chrome://restart' is handy. I use it most often to pick up updates without waiting for Chrome to see that it's been updated, but it works well in general. I will have a look at that but I expect similarly to when Chrome crashes with a dozen windows open and with a dozen tabs in each - responding by clicking "Recover" to the "Chrome did not shut down properly" message seems to be more likely to actually cause the problem I first posted about . . If I have been more disciplined and have had a dozen windows open but only a few tabs per window . . it is not so bad . . thankfully the "Tabs Outliner" extension helps greatly (although I had to change the way I normally worked). Thanks, P. -- Philip Rhoades PO Box 896 Cowra NSW 2794 Australia E-mail: p...@pricom.com.au ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Killing only selected Chrome windows from the CLI ?
Samuel, On 2018-03-27 15:22, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 03/26/2018 06:53 PM, Philip Rhoades wrote: On 2018-03-27 12:18, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 03/26/2018 05:59 PM, Philip Rhoades wrote: but it is not what I want to do - when Chrome goes mad and the whole system starts grinding to a halt (I know from experience it is Chrome) I want to try and work out what specific Chrome tab or window is the problem. Chrome has its own task manager: If you run top, which process is using the CPU? Just kill that one, then go through your chrome tabs and find out which tab has the sad face on it. That usually doesn't work from my recollection, no individual tab seems to be a problem - it is either Chrome as a whole or a whole window I think . . obviously shutting down all of Chrome fixes the problem . . but it is a pain to gradually re-open all the windows I previously had open again . . As far as I can tell, there is one process per tab. So if there isn't a specific process that causing the problem, then it must be one of the core processes and there's nothing you can do but restart the whole thing. Yes, it looks that way so far . . P. -- Philip Rhoades PO Box 896 Cowra NSW 2794 Australia E-mail: p...@pricom.com.au ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Killing only selected Chrome windows from the CLI ?
Philip Rhoades wrote: > On 2018-03-27 12:18, Samuel Sieb wrote: >> If you run top, which process is using the CPU? Just kill that one, >> then go through your chrome tabs and find out which tab has the sad >> face on it. > > That usually doesn't work from my recollection, no individual tab seems to > be a problem - it is either Chrome as a whole or a whole window I think . . > obviously shutting down all of Chrome fixes the problem . . but it is a pain > to gradually re-open all the windows I previously had open again . . Times like that, 'chrome://restart' is handy. I use it most often to pick up updates without waiting for Chrome to see that it's been updated, but it works well in general. -- Todd ~~ Living in a vacuum sucks. -- Adrienne E. Gusoff signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Killing only selected Chrome windows from the CLI ?
On 03/26/2018 06:53 PM, Philip Rhoades wrote: On 2018-03-27 12:18, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 03/26/2018 05:59 PM, Philip Rhoades wrote: but it is not what I want to do - when Chrome goes mad and the whole system starts grinding to a halt (I know from experience it is Chrome) I want to try and work out what specific Chrome tab or window is the problem. Chrome has its own task manager: If you run top, which process is using the CPU? Just kill that one, then go through your chrome tabs and find out which tab has the sad face on it. That usually doesn't work from my recollection, no individual tab seems to be a problem - it is either Chrome as a whole or a whole window I think . . obviously shutting down all of Chrome fixes the problem . . but it is a pain to gradually re-open all the windows I previously had open again . . As far as I can tell, there is one process per tab. So if there isn't a specific process that causing the problem, then it must be one of the core processes and there's nothing you can do but restart the whole thing. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Killing only selected Chrome windows from the CLI ?
Samuel, On 2018-03-27 12:18, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 03/26/2018 05:59 PM, Philip Rhoades wrote: but it is not what I want to do - when Chrome goes mad and the whole system starts grinding to a halt (I know from experience it is Chrome) I want to try and work out what specific Chrome tab or window is the problem. Chrome has its own task manager: If you run top, which process is using the CPU? Just kill that one, then go through your chrome tabs and find out which tab has the sad face on it. That usually doesn't work from my recollection, no individual tab seems to be a problem - it is either Chrome as a whole or a whole window I think . . obviously shutting down all of Chrome fixes the problem . . but it is a pain to gradually re-open all the windows I previously had open again . . P. -- Philip Rhoades PO Box 896 Cowra NSW 2794 Australia E-mail: p...@pricom.com.au ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Killing only selected Chrome windows from the CLI ?
JD,
On 2018-03-27 12:10, JD wrote:
On 03/26/2018 06:59 PM, Philip Rhoades wrote:
People,
This command exits the chrome process tree gracefully, in all window
managers:
pkill --oldest chrome
but it is not what I want to do - when Chrome goes mad and the whole
system starts grinding to a halt (I know from experience it is Chrome)
I want to try and work out what specific Chrome tab or window is the
problem. Chrome has its own task manager:
SHIFT ESC
but you can't kill a window with all its tabs from there.
Using:
ps aux | grep "beta\/chrome"
seems to indicate individual tabs?
Using:
xprop _NET_WM_PID
and clicking on the different windows always give the same id.
I wrote the script below using wmctrl and xkill to allow me to kill
the Chrome windows in reverse order of creation but killing the first
Chrome window kills all Chrome windows. The xkill man page says the
"program is very dangerous" and:
-id resource
This option specifies the X identifier for the resource whose creator
is to be aborted.
- so it looks like aborting "creator" gets rid of everything.
Any suggestions about fixing my script to selectively kill single
Chrome windows?
Thanks,
Phil.
#!/bin/bash
wins=`wmctrl -l | sort -r`
IFS=$'\n' # bash 4
readarray -t winsarr <<< "$wins"
for win in "${winsarr[@]}"
do
IFS=' ' read id junk1 junk2 name <<< $win
echo "$id $name"
echo -n "Kill?: "
read junk
if [ "$junk" == "Y" ]; then
xkill -frame -id "$id"
fi
done
You cannot kill specific windows of an app using general purpose CLI
commands.
You need a command that talks directly to chrome and, for example, ask
it for
the window id's of all of it's windows.
And the you might tell chrome to kill some specific set of window id's.
So, it all has to be under the direct control of chrome main process.
I am not sure that such an interface exists.
Damn . .
If enought people scream
at google for such an interface, then google /might/ provide such a
cli.
I won't be holding my breath - there are so many other common-sense app
things that Google has not done for years, I wouldn't even bother asking
for this . .
Thanks,
Phil.
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PO Box 896
Cowra NSW 2794
Australia
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Re: Killing only selected Chrome windows from the CLI ?
On 03/26/2018 05:59 PM, Philip Rhoades wrote: but it is not what I want to do - when Chrome goes mad and the whole system starts grinding to a halt (I know from experience it is Chrome) I want to try and work out what specific Chrome tab or window is the problem. Chrome has its own task manager: If you run top, which process is using the CPU? Just kill that one, then go through your chrome tabs and find out which tab has the sad face on it. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Killing only selected Chrome windows from the CLI ?
On 03/26/2018 06:59 PM, Philip Rhoades wrote:
People,
This command exits the chrome process tree gracefully, in all window
managers:
pkill --oldest chrome
but it is not what I want to do - when Chrome goes mad and the whole
system starts grinding to a halt (I know from experience it is Chrome)
I want to try and work out what specific Chrome tab or window is the
problem. Chrome has its own task manager:
SHIFT ESC
but you can't kill a window with all its tabs from there.
Using:
ps aux | grep "beta\/chrome"
seems to indicate individual tabs?
Using:
xprop _NET_WM_PID
and clicking on the different windows always give the same id.
I wrote the script below using wmctrl and xkill to allow me to kill
the Chrome windows in reverse order of creation but killing the first
Chrome window kills all Chrome windows. The xkill man page says the
"program is very dangerous" and:
-id resource
This option specifies the X identifier for the resource whose creator
is to be aborted.
- so it looks like aborting "creator" gets rid of everything.
Any suggestions about fixing my script to selectively kill single
Chrome windows?
Thanks,
Phil.
#!/bin/bash
wins=`wmctrl -l | sort -r`
IFS=$'\n' # bash 4
readarray -t winsarr <<< "$wins"
for win in "${winsarr[@]}"
do
IFS=' ' read id junk1 junk2 name <<< $win
echo "$id $name"
echo -n "Kill?: "
read junk
if [ "$junk" == "Y" ]; then
xkill -frame -id "$id"
fi
done
You cannot kill specific windows of an app using general purpose CLI
commands.
You need a command that talks directly to chrome and, for example, ask
it for
the window id's of all of it's windows.
And the you might tell chrome to kill some specific set of window id's.
So, it all has to be under the direct control of chrome main process.
I am not sure that such an interface exists. If enought people scream
at google for such an interface, then google /might/ provide such a cli.
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Killing only selected Chrome windows from the CLI ?
People,
This command exits the chrome process tree gracefully, in all window
managers:
pkill --oldest chrome
but it is not what I want to do - when Chrome goes mad and the whole
system starts grinding to a halt (I know from experience it is Chrome) I
want to try and work out what specific Chrome tab or window is the
problem. Chrome has its own task manager:
SHIFT ESC
but you can't kill a window with all its tabs from there.
Using:
ps aux | grep "beta\/chrome"
seems to indicate individual tabs?
Using:
xprop _NET_WM_PID
and clicking on the different windows always give the same id.
I wrote the script below using wmctrl and xkill to allow me to kill the
Chrome windows in reverse order of creation but killing the first Chrome
window kills all Chrome windows. The xkill man page says the "program
is very dangerous" and:
-id resource
This option specifies the X identifier for the resource whose creator is
to be aborted.
- so it looks like aborting "creator" gets rid of everything.
Any suggestions about fixing my script to selectively kill single Chrome
windows?
Thanks,
Phil.
#!/bin/bash
wins=`wmctrl -l | sort -r`
IFS=$'\n' # bash 4
readarray -t winsarr <<< "$wins"
for win in "${winsarr[@]}"
do
IFS=' ' read id junk1 junk2 name <<< $win
echo "$id $name"
echo -n "Kill?: "
read junk
if [ "$junk" == "Y" ]; then
xkill -frame -id "$id"
fi
done
--
Philip Rhoades
PO Box 896
Cowra NSW 2794
Australia
E-mail: p...@pricom.com.au
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