Re: fedora books

2012-12-02 Thread Hiisi
On 1 December 2012 20:44, NOSpaze nosp...@gmail.com wrote:
 You will not find a book about the features of some specific laptop
 model, car model or mobile phone. The same with a distro. A car differs
 to others basically in the way components are assembled. The same with a
 distro. They both share the same components in essence.


What a bull$hit! Recently I've bought a laptop. It's packaged with a
book describing its characteristics. As for the car, you can easily
find what you're looking for in the nearest spare part shop.
Prooflink:
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=sr_nr_scat_10534_ln?rh=n%3A10534%2Ck%3Arenaultkeywords=renaultie=UTF8qid=1354440890scn=10534h=1c9d67e5b015df9bb8b773740ed2495a85620674


 A distro differ from others basically in directories organization and
 some scripts. The rest is basically the same among others with the same
 purpose (say, suse, debian, ubuntu). The best way to learn features of a
 distro is using it with some purpose (ie. write a book, handle bank
 accounts, play games). If you want to learn linux, the best kind of
 books are the certification-oriented books.


Directories organization is not the main difference between distros. I
would mention deb/rpm/variants at the first place.
Agreed on certification books.

 :)

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Re: fedora books

2012-12-02 Thread Phil Dobbin
On 12/01/2012 06:37 AM, Brian West wrote:

 Hello everyone I'd like to hear any suggestions you may have when it
 comes to a good book to learn the features of fedora.  while there are
 countless books that teach you how to use linux in the general way. 
 each distribution has its own unique set of tools and features.  being
 that fedora has been known since the beginning as a distribution that
 stays on the cutting edge giving its users the latest software what book
 would you suggest to ensure i can stay educated on fedora?


You could do worse than take a look at Mark G. Sobell's 'A Practical
Guide to Fedora  Red Hat Enterprise Linux'.

As with all Mr. Sobell's books, it's extremely well written, very
readable  will impart knowledge to even the most seasoned user.

It currently ships with Fedora 15 on DVD so it's not quite cutting edge
so to speak but then again, there ain't the market for producing a
thousand page book every six months  even if there were, I think you'd
struggle to find an author willing to take the job on.

I'd imagine Sobell will tackle Fedora again in the near future once the
transition to the new filesystem  all other additions are implemented
but as to when that'll happen, you'd have to ask him (he's on Twitter).

Cheers,

  Phil...

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Re: fedora books

2012-12-01 Thread Bruno Wolff III

On Sat, Dec 01, 2012 at 01:37:52 -0500,
  Brian West bionicfre...@gmail.com wrote:
Hello everyone I'd like to hear any suggestions you may have when it 
comes to a good book to learn the features of fedora.  while there 
are countless books that teach you how to use linux in the general 
way.  each distribution has its own unique set of tools and features.  
being that fedora has been known since the beginning as a 
distribution that stays on the cutting edge giving its users the 
latest software what book would you suggest to ensure i can stay 
educated on fedora?


When looking to update to the next release, you can look at the release notes.
If there are particular applications you use and want to know about changes 
for them, probably the best place to look is upstream release notes.


As an existing Fedora user, I don't see using books as a way to keep up 
to date. They'll be out of date for you by the time they are available.


If you want to see what's comming down the road, then you might want to 
watch the feature pages for the upcoming release and loosely follow the 
devel list.

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Re: fedora books

2012-12-01 Thread NOSpaze
On Sat, 2012-12-01 at 01:37 -0500, Brian West wrote:
 Hello everyone I'd like to hear any suggestions you may have when it 
 comes to a good book to learn the features of fedora.  while there are 
 countless books that teach you how to use linux in the general way.  
 each distribution has its own unique set of tools and features.

You will not find a book about the features of some specific laptop
model, car model or mobile phone. The same with a distro. A car differs
to others basically in the way components are assembled. The same with a
distro. They both share the same components in essence.

A distro differ from others basically in directories organization and
some scripts. The rest is basically the same among others with the same
purpose (say, suse, debian, ubuntu). The best way to learn features of a
distro is using it with some purpose (ie. write a book, handle bank
accounts, play games). If you want to learn linux, the best kind of
books are the certification-oriented books. 

:)

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fedora books

2012-11-30 Thread Brian West
Hello everyone I'd like to hear any suggestions you may have when it 
comes to a good book to learn the features of fedora.  while there are 
countless books that teach you how to use linux in the general way.  
each distribution has its own unique set of tools and features.  being 
that fedora has been known since the beginning as a distribution that 
stays on the cutting edge giving its users the latest software what book 
would you suggest to ensure i can stay educated on fedora?

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Re: fedora books

2012-11-30 Thread Paul Allen Newell

On 11/30/2012 10:37 PM, Brian West wrote:
Hello everyone I'd like to hear any suggestions you may have when it 
comes to a good book to learn the features of fedora.  while there are 
countless books that teach you how to use linux in the general way.  
each distribution has its own unique set of tools and features.  being 
that fedora has been known since the beginning as a distribution that 
stays on the cutting edge giving its users the latest software what 
book would you suggest to ensure i can stay educated on fedora?


Fedora evolves faster than printing schedules.
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Re: fedora books

2012-11-30 Thread Brian West

On 12/01/2012 01:47 AM, Paul Allen Newell wrote:

On 11/30/2012 10:37 PM, Brian West wrote:
Hello everyone I'd like to hear any suggestions you may have when it 
comes to a good book to learn the features of fedora.  while there 
are countless books that teach you how to use linux in the general 
way.  each distribution has its own unique set of tools and features. 
being that fedora has been known since the beginning as a 
distribution that stays on the cutting edge giving its users the 
latest software what book would you suggest to ensure i can stay 
educated on fedora?


Fedora evolves faster than printing schedules.

any suggestions on how can stay educated?
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Re: fedora books

2012-11-30 Thread Paul Allen Newell

On 11/30/2012 10:48 PM, Brian West wrote:

On 12/01/2012 01:47 AM, Paul Allen Newell wrote:

On 11/30/2012 10:37 PM, Brian West wrote:
Hello everyone I'd like to hear any suggestions you may have when it 
comes to a good book to learn the features of fedora.  while there 
are countless books that teach you how to use linux in the general 
way.  each distribution has its own unique set of tools and 
features. being that fedora has been known since the beginning as a 
distribution that stays on the cutting edge giving its users the 
latest software what book would you suggest to ensure i can stay 
educated on fedora?


Fedora evolves faster than printing schedules.

any suggestions on how can stay educated?
this list is the best I've found ... and depending on how much you want 
to drown there are other lists regarding beta, project direction, etc.


my sense is all OS are evolving faster than print and once you gotten a 
handle on the OS from general books and test driving, the changes you 
need to know about will appear online in the various sites that are 
staying on top of that OS


I stand to be corrected by anyone else if they see a problem with this 
sense

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