On 6/3/07, Curt Hagenlocher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 6/3/07, John J Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > "This is not a case of some accidental, unknowing infringement,"
> > > Gutierrez asserts. "There is an overwhelming number of patents being
> > > infringed."
>
>
> This is a public st
Quoting Curt Hagenlocher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> On 6/3/07, John J Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> "This is not a case of some accidental, unknowing infringement,"
>>> Gutierrez asserts. "There is an overwhelming number of patents being
>>> infringed."
>
>
> This is a public statement made
On 6/3/07, John J Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "This is not a case of some accidental, unknowing infringement,"
> Gutierrez asserts. "There is an overwhelming number of patents being
> infringed."
This is a public statement made purely for PR purposes and probably
shouldn't be used to im
On Fri, 1 Jun 2007, Curt Hagenlocher wrote:
[...]
> The originally-expressed concern was that looking at the IronPython source
> code might "contaminate" a developer such that, if the same developer later
> worked on a different project with similar architecture, it might open that
> project up to
So then why not read the source code, get some ideas, possibly use some of
the code if it makes sense as such, and include a copy of the license and
copyright notice with your redistribution to cover your legal requirements.
Of course if the project was GPL'd, which is incompatible (as far as I k
On 6/1/07, M. David Peterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On 6/1/07, Curt Hagenlocher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "Independent rediscovery" does not protect you from claims of patent
> infringement, only from copyright infringement.
>
Unless I am misreading, it seems you are suggesting that the
On 6/1/07, Curt Hagenlocher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
People who are simply *using* IronPython are covered by the license.
Well them, and those who want "to make, have made, use, sell, offer for
sale, import, and/or otherwise dispose of its contribution in the software
or derivative works o
On 6/1/07, Tim Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
The license associated with IronPython is quite specific about patent
rights. Microsoft treats its licenses very seriously. In my opinion,
there's nothing to worry about here.
People who are simply *using* IronPython are covered by the licen
*VERY* well stated, Tim!
On 6/1/07, Tim Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Fri, 1 Jun 2007 09:41:19 -0400, "Eric Nicholson"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm also not a lawyer, but...
>
> I previously would have agreed about the protections in the license, but
> until the whole claim of 135 P
On Fri, 1 Jun 2007 09:41:19 -0400, "Eric Nicholson"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm also not a lawyer, but...
>
> I previously would have agreed about the protections in the license, but
> until the whole claim of 135 Patent violations in Linux clears up, I'm not
> sure. MS Legal needs to prove t
On 6/1/07, Eric Nicholson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I'm also not a lawyer, but...
I previously would have agreed about the protections in the license, but
until the whole claim of 135 Patent violations in Linux clears up, I'm not
sure. MS Legal needs to prove that they can be trusted.
You
;
> John
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of Sanghyeon Seo
> Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 6:10 PM
> To: Discussion of IronPython
> Subject: [IronPython] Patent concerns
>
> Hi,
>
> Recently on jvm-langua
half Of Sanghyeon Seo
Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 6:10 PM
To: Discussion of IronPython
Subject: [IronPython] Patent concerns
Hi,
Recently on jvm-languages list, which is an interest group surrounding
language implementation for the JVM, Frank Wierzbicki from Jython
project expressed the concern tha
om: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sanghyeon Seo
Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 6:10 PM
To: Discussion of IronPython
Subject: [IronPython] Patent concerns
Hi,
Recently on jvm-languages list, which is an interest group surrounding
language implementation for the JVM, Frank Wierz
hyeon Seo
Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 6:10 PM
To: Discussion of IronPython
Subject: [IronPython] Patent concerns
Hi,
Recently on jvm-languages list, which is an interest group surrounding
language implementation for the JVM, Frank Wierzbicki from Jython
project expressed the concern that Mi
Hi,
Recently on jvm-languages list, which is an interest group surrounding
language implementation for the JVM, Frank Wierzbicki from Jython
project expressed the concern that Microsoft may hold a lot of patents
related to IronPython, so he is reluctant to look at the source code
even if it is ope
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