Re: [OMPI users] Regarding eager limit relationship to send message size

2020-03-26 Thread Raut, S Biplab via users
bject: Re: [OMPI users] Regarding eager limit relationship to send message size [CAUTION: External Email] An application that rely on MPI eager buffers for correctness or performance is an incorrect application. Among many other points simply because MPI implementations without support for eage

Re: [OMPI users] Regarding eager limit relationship to send message size

2020-03-26 Thread George Bosilca via users
An application that rely on MPI eager buffers for correctness or performance is an incorrect application. Among many other points simply because MPI implementations without support for eager are legit. Moreover, these applications also miss the point on performance. Among the overheads I am not onl

Re: [OMPI users] Regarding eager limit relationship to send message size

2020-03-26 Thread Jeff Squyres (jsquyres) via users
On Mar 26, 2020, at 5:36 AM, Raut, S Biplab wrote: > > I am doing pairwise send-recv and not all-to-all since not all the data is > required by all the ranks. > And I am doing blocking send and recv calls since there are multiple > iterations of such message chunks to be sent with synchronizati

Re: [OMPI users] Regarding eager limit relationship to send message size

2020-03-26 Thread Raut, S Biplab via users
(jsquyres) Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 10:22 PM To: Open MPI User's List Cc: George Bosilca ; Raut, S Biplab Subject: Re: [OMPI users] Regarding eager limit relationship to send message size [CAUTION: External Email] On Mar 25, 2020, at 4:49 AM, Raut, S Biplab via users

Re: [OMPI users] Regarding eager limit relationship to send message size

2020-03-26 Thread Raut, S Biplab via users
it to pass to the application in case I want to use it. With Regards, S. Biplab Raut From: George Bosilca Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 9:58 PM To: Raut, S Biplab Cc: Open MPI Users Subject: Re: [OMPI users] Regarding eager limit relationship to send message size [CAUTION: External Email

Re: [OMPI users] Regarding eager limit relationship to send message size

2020-03-25 Thread Jeff Squyres (jsquyres) via users
On Mar 25, 2020, at 4:49 AM, Raut, S Biplab via users wrote: > > Let’s say the application is running with 128 ranks. > Each rank is doing send() msg to rest of 127 ranks where the msg length sent > is under question. > Now after all the sends are completed, each rank will recv() msg from rest

Re: [OMPI users] Regarding eager limit relationship to send message size

2020-03-25 Thread George Bosilca via users
would never deadlock. George. > With Regards, > > S. Biplab Raut > > > > *From:* George Bosilca > *Sent:* Tuesday, March 24, 2020 9:01 PM > *To:* Open MPI Users > *Cc:* Raut, S Biplab > *Subject:* Re: [OMPI users] Regarding eager limit relationship to send > m

Re: [OMPI users] Regarding eager limit relationship to send message size

2020-03-25 Thread Raut, S Biplab via users
this size? With Regards, S. Biplab Raut From: George Bosilca Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2020 9:01 PM To: Open MPI Users Cc: Raut, S Biplab Subject: Re: [OMPI users] Regarding eager limit relationship to send message size [CAUTION: External Email] Biplab, The eager is a constant for each BTL, a

Re: [OMPI users] Regarding eager limit relationship to send message size

2020-03-24 Thread George Bosilca via users
Biplab, The eager is a constant for each BTL, and it represent the data that is sent eagerly with the matching information out of the entire message. So, if the question is how much memory is needed to store all the eager messages then the answer will depend on the communication pattern of your ap