Re: [OMPI users] busy waiting and oversubscriptions

2014-03-26 Thread Gus Correa
On 03/26/2014 05:26 PM, Ross Boylan wrote: [Main part is at the bottom] On Wed, 2014-03-26 at 19:28 +0100, Andreas Schäfer wrote: Ross- On 09:08 Wed 26 Mar , Ross Boylan wrote: On Wed, 2014-03-26 at 10:27 +, Jeff Squyres (jsquyres) wrote: On Mar 26, 2014, at 1:31 AM, Andreas Schäfer

Re: [OMPI users] busy waiting and oversubscriptions

2014-03-26 Thread Ross Boylan
[Main part is at the bottom] On Wed, 2014-03-26 at 19:28 +0100, Andreas Schäfer wrote: > Ross- > > On 09:08 Wed 26 Mar , Ross Boylan wrote: > > On Wed, 2014-03-26 at 10:27 +, Jeff Squyres (jsquyres) wrote: > > > On Mar 26, 2014, at 1:31 AM, Andreas Schäfer wrote: ... > > This seems to res

Re: [OMPI users] busy waiting and oversubscriptions

2014-03-26 Thread Andreas Schäfer
Ross- On 09:08 Wed 26 Mar , Ross Boylan wrote: > On Wed, 2014-03-26 at 10:27 +, Jeff Squyres (jsquyres) wrote: > > On Mar 26, 2014, at 1:31 AM, Andreas Schäfer wrote: > > > > >> Even when "idle", MPI processes use all the CPU. I thought I remember > > >> someone saying that they will be

Re: [OMPI users] busy waiting and oversubscriptions

2014-03-26 Thread Ross Boylan
On Wed, 2014-03-26 at 10:27 +, Jeff Squyres (jsquyres) wrote: > On Mar 26, 2014, at 1:31 AM, Andreas Schäfer wrote: > > >> Even when "idle", MPI processes use all the CPU. I thought I remember > >> someone saying that they will be low priority, and so not pose much of > >> an obstacle to oth

Re: [OMPI users] busy waiting and oversubscriptions

2014-03-26 Thread Tim Prince
On 3/26/2014 6:45 AM, Andreas Schäfer wrote: On 10:27 Wed 26 Mar , Jeff Squyres (jsquyres) wrote: Be aware of a few facts, though: 1. There is a fundamental difference between disabling hyperthreading in the BIOS at power-on time and simply running one MPI process per core. Disabling HT a

Re: [OMPI users] busy waiting and oversubscriptions

2014-03-26 Thread Jeff Squyres (jsquyres)
On Mar 26, 2014, at 6:45 AM, Andreas Schäfer wrote: >> 1. There is a fundamental difference between disabling >> hyperthreading in the BIOS at power-on time and simply running one >> MPI process per core. Disabling HT at power-on allocates more >> hardware resources to the remaining HT that is l

Re: [OMPI users] busy waiting and oversubscriptions

2014-03-26 Thread Andreas Schäfer
On 10:27 Wed 26 Mar , Jeff Squyres (jsquyres) wrote: > Be aware of a few facts, though: > > 1. There is a fundamental difference between disabling > hyperthreading in the BIOS at power-on time and simply running one > MPI process per core. Disabling HT at power-on allocates more > hardware re

Re: [OMPI users] busy waiting and oversubscriptions

2014-03-26 Thread Jeff Squyres (jsquyres)
On Mar 26, 2014, at 1:31 AM, Andreas Schäfer wrote: >> Even when "idle", MPI processes use all the CPU. I thought I remember >> someone saying that they will be low priority, and so not pose much of >> an obstacle to other uses of the CPU. > > well, if they're blocking in an MPI call, then they

Re: [OMPI users] busy waiting and oversubscriptions

2014-03-26 Thread Andreas Schäfer
Ross- On 20:30 Tue 25 Mar , Ross Boylan wrote: > Even when "idle", MPI processes use all the CPU. I thought I remember > someone saying that they will be low priority, and so not pose much of > an obstacle to other uses of the CPU. well, if they're blocking in an MPI call, then they'll be do