[OMPI users] Confusing behaviour of compiler wrappers
Hi OpenMPI-community, This is a cross post from the following spack issue : https://github.com/spack/spack/issues/20756 In brief, when I install openmpi@4.1.0 with ucx and xpmem fabrics, the behaviour of the compiler wrappers (mpicc) seems to depend upon the method by which it is loaded into the user environment. When loaded by `spack load`, the compiler wrappers successfully compiler a test program. However, if the same compiler wrappers are loaded via `module load` or as part of a spack environment, they fail. What could possibly cause this inconsistency ? The build logs and the output of opmi_info are available here ( https://we.tl/t-CaiOt7OefS) should it be of any help. Thank You, Sajid Ali (he/him) | PhD Candidate Applied Physics Northwestern University s-sajid-ali.github.io
Re: [OMPI users] Timeout in MPI_Bcast/MPI_Barrier?
Daniel, There are no timeouts in OMPI with the exception of the initial connection over TCP, where we use the socket timeout to prevent deadlocks. As you already did quite a few communicator duplications and other collective communications before you see the timeout, we need more info about this. As Gilles indicated, having the complete output might help. What is the duration of the delay for the waiting process ? Also, can you post a replicator of this issue ? George. On Fri, Jan 8, 2021 at 9:03 AM Gilles Gouaillardet via users < users@lists.open-mpi.org> wrote: > Daniel, > > Can you please post the full error message and share a reproducer for > this issue? > > Cheers, > > Gilles > > On Fri, Jan 8, 2021 at 10:25 PM Daniel Torres via users > wrote: > > > > Hi all. > > > > Actually I'm implementing an algorithm that creates a process grid and > divides it into row and column communicators as follows: > > > > col_comm0col_comm1col_comm2 col_comm3 > > row_comm0P0 P1 P2P3 > > row_comm1P4 P5 P6P7 > > row_comm2P8 P9 P10 P11 > > row_comm3P12 P13 P14 P15 > > > > Then, every process works on its own column communicator and broadcast > data on row communicators. > > While column operations are being executed, processes not included in > the current column communicator just wait for results. > > > > In a moment, a column communicator could be splitted to create a temp > communicator and allow only the right processes to work on it. > > > > At the end of a step, a call to MPI_Barrier (on a duplicate of > MPI_COMM_WORLD) is executed to sync all processes and avoid bad results. > > > > With a small amount of data (a small matrix) the MPI_Barrier call syncs > correctly on the communicator that includes all processes and processing > ends fine. > > But when the amount of data (a big matrix) is incremented, operations on > column communicators take more time to finish and hence waiting time also > increments for waiting processes. > > > > After a few time, waiting processes return an error when they have not > received the broadcast (MPI_Bcast) on row communicators or when they have > finished their work at the sync point (MPI_Barrier). But when the > operations on the current column communicator end, the still active > processes try to broadcast on row communicators and they fail because the > waiting processes have returned an error. So all processes fail in > different moment in time. > > > > So my problem is that waiting processes "believe" that the current > operations have failed (but they have not finished yet!) and they fail too. > > > > So I have a question about MPI_Bcast/MPI_Barrier: > > > > Is there a way to increment the timeout a process can wait for a > broadcast or barrier to be completed? > > > > Here is my machine and OpenMPI info: > > - OpenMPI version: Open MPI 4.1.0u1a1 > > - OS: Linux Daniel 5.4.0-52-generic #57-Ubuntu SMP Thu Oct 15 10:57:00 > UTC 2020 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux > > > > Thanks in advance for reading my description/question. > > > > Best regards. > > > > -- > > Daniel Torres > > LIPN - Université Sorbonne Paris Nord >
Re: [OMPI users] Timeout in MPI_Bcast/MPI_Barrier?
Daniel, Can you please post the full error message and share a reproducer for this issue? Cheers, Gilles On Fri, Jan 8, 2021 at 10:25 PM Daniel Torres via users wrote: > > Hi all. > > Actually I'm implementing an algorithm that creates a process grid and > divides it into row and column communicators as follows: > > col_comm0col_comm1col_comm2 col_comm3 > row_comm0P0 P1 P2P3 > row_comm1P4 P5 P6P7 > row_comm2P8 P9 P10 P11 > row_comm3P12 P13 P14 P15 > > Then, every process works on its own column communicator and broadcast data > on row communicators. > While column operations are being executed, processes not included in the > current column communicator just wait for results. > > In a moment, a column communicator could be splitted to create a temp > communicator and allow only the right processes to work on it. > > At the end of a step, a call to MPI_Barrier (on a duplicate of > MPI_COMM_WORLD) is executed to sync all processes and avoid bad results. > > With a small amount of data (a small matrix) the MPI_Barrier call syncs > correctly on the communicator that includes all processes and processing ends > fine. > But when the amount of data (a big matrix) is incremented, operations on > column communicators take more time to finish and hence waiting time also > increments for waiting processes. > > After a few time, waiting processes return an error when they have not > received the broadcast (MPI_Bcast) on row communicators or when they have > finished their work at the sync point (MPI_Barrier). But when the operations > on the current column communicator end, the still active processes try to > broadcast on row communicators and they fail because the waiting processes > have returned an error. So all processes fail in different moment in time. > > So my problem is that waiting processes "believe" that the current operations > have failed (but they have not finished yet!) and they fail too. > > So I have a question about MPI_Bcast/MPI_Barrier: > > Is there a way to increment the timeout a process can wait for a broadcast or > barrier to be completed? > > Here is my machine and OpenMPI info: > - OpenMPI version: Open MPI 4.1.0u1a1 > - OS: Linux Daniel 5.4.0-52-generic #57-Ubuntu SMP Thu Oct 15 10:57:00 UTC > 2020 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux > > Thanks in advance for reading my description/question. > > Best regards. > > -- > Daniel Torres > LIPN - Université Sorbonne Paris Nord
[OMPI users] Timeout in MPI_Bcast/MPI_Barrier?
Hi all. Actually I'm implementing an algorithm that creates a process grid and divides it into row and column communicators as follows: col_comm0 col_comm1 col_comm2 col_comm3 row_comm0 P0 P1 P2 P3 row_comm1 P4 P5 P6 P7 row_comm2 P8 P9 P10 P11 row_comm3 P12 P13 P14 P15 Then, every process works on its own column communicator and broadcast data on row communicators. While column operations are being executed, processes not included in the current column communicator just wait for results. In a moment, a column communicator could be splitted to create a temp communicator and allow only the right processes to work on it. At the end of a step, a call to MPI_Barrier (on a duplicate of MPI_COMM_WORLD) is executed to sync all processes and avoid bad results. With a small amount of data (a small matrix) the MPI_Barrier call syncs correctly on the communicator that includes all processes and processing ends fine. But when the amount of data (a big matrix) is incremented, operations on column communicators take more time to finish and hence waiting time also increments for waiting processes. After a few time, waiting processes return an error when they have not received the broadcast (MPI_Bcast) on row communicators or when they have finished their work at the sync point (MPI_Barrier). But when the operations on the current column communicator end, the still active processes try to broadcast on row communicators and they fail because the waiting processes have returned an error. So all processes fail in different moment in time. So my problem is that waiting processes "believe" that the current operations have failed (but they have not finished yet!) and they fail too. So I have a question about MPI_Bcast/MPI_Barrier: Is there a way to increment the timeout a process can wait for a broadcast or barrier to be completed? Here is my machine and OpenMPI info: - OpenMPI version: Open MPI 4.1.0u1a1 - OS: Linux Daniel 5.4.0-52-generic #57-Ubuntu SMP Thu Oct 15 10:57:00 UTC 2020 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux Thanks in advance for reading my description/question. Best regards. -- Daniel Torres LIPN - Université Sorbonne Paris Nord
