This is a pretty bad issue in Kubernetes. We are talking about deleting
data from NFS volumes. Lucky for me I'm just doing a POC. Is this not
considered bad enough to warrant a patch release for Origin 1.3.x?

Cheers

Lionel.

On 19 November 2016 at 07:38, Lionel Orellana <lione...@gmail.com> wrote:

> The only "released" version of Openshift that includes Kubernetes 1.3.6 is
> v1.4.0.-alpha1. I don't want to upgrade to an alpha1 release.
>
> Can I request a patch of Openshift Origin to include Kubernetes 1.3.6 or
> higher? ( the Kubernetes 1.3 branch is up to 1.3.10).
>
> On 19 November 2016 at 07:26, Alex Wauck <alexwa...@exosite.com> wrote:
>
>> OpenShift is a distribution of Kubernetes, so I don't think you can
>> upgrade Kubernetes without upgrading OpenShift.
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 18, 2016 at 1:52 PM, Lionel Orellana <lione...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> So the fix is on Kubernetes 1.3.6. The upgrade guide you mention is for
>>> Openshift as a whole unless I'm missing something.
>>> On Sat., 19 Nov. 2016 at 12:29 am, Mark Turansky <mtura...@redhat.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Good find on that bug. Our upgrade guide can help you get started on a
>>>> fix.
>>>>
>>>> https://docs.openshift.com/container-platform/3.3/install_co
>>>> nfig/upgrading/index.html
>>>>
>>>> Mark
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Nov 18, 2016 at 3:13 AM, Lionel Orellana <lione...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> This sounds very very familiar: https://github.com/k
>>>> ubernetes/kubernetes/issues/30637
>>>>
>>>> Particularly comment: https://github.com/ku
>>>> bernetes/kubernetes/issues/30637#issuecomment-243276076
>>>>
>>>> That is a nasty bug. How can I upgrade Kubernetes in my cluster?
>>>>
>>>> My current versions are
>>>>
>>>> -bash-4.2$ oc version
>>>> oc v1.3.0
>>>> kubernetes v1.3.0+52492b4
>>>> features: Basic-Auth GSSAPI Kerberos SPNEGO
>>>>
>>>> Server https://poc-docker01.aipo.gov.au:8443
>>>> openshift v1.3.0
>>>> kubernetes v1.3.0+52492b4
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 18 November 2016 at 18:18, Lionel Orellana <lione...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Files in other dirs in the same NFS server don't get deleted (e.g.
>>>> <server name>/poc_runtime/test/)
>>>>
>>>> There is something in my Openshift node deleting files in <server
>>>> name>/poc_runtime/evs as soon as I put them there!
>>>>
>>>> On 18 November 2016 at 18:04, Lionel Orellana <lione...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> In fact, whatever is deleting my files is still doing it:
>>>>
>>>> [root@poc-docker03 evs]# touch x
>>>> [root@poc-docker03 evs]# ls
>>>> [root@poc-docker03 evs]#
>>>>
>>>> evs is a path on an NFS volume that I have added directly to some
>>>> deployment configs
>>>>
>>>>  -
>>>>           name: evs
>>>>           nfs:
>>>>             server: <server name>
>>>>             path: /poc_runtime/evs
>>>>
>>>> If I stop the origin-service on one particular node the file doesn't
>>>> disappear.
>>>>
>>>> [root@poc-docker03 evs]# touch x
>>>> [root@poc-docker03 evs]# ls
>>>> x
>>>> [root@poc-docker03 evs]#
>>>>
>>>> When I restart the origin-node service I see a lot of errors like this
>>>>
>>>>  Failed cleaning pods: [remove /var/lib/origin/openshift.loca
>>>> l.volumes/pods/1b7e3a16-ab08-11e6-8618-005056915814/volumes/
>>>> kubernetes.io~nfs device or resource bus
>>>>  Failed to remove orphaned pod xxxxx dir; err: remove
>>>> /var/lib/origin/openshift.local.volumes/pods/xxxx/volumes/kubernetes.io
>>>> ~nfs/*evs*: device or resource bus
>>>>
>>>> Despite the fact that the error says that it couldn't remove it, what
>>>> exactly is it trying to do here? Is it possible that this process
>>>> previously deleted the data in the evs folder?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 18 November 2016 at 16:45, Lionel Orellana <lione...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> What about NFS volumes added directly in build configs.
>>>>
>>>> volumes:
>>>>         -
>>>>           name: jenkins-volume-1
>>>>           nfs:
>>>>             server: <server name>
>>>>             path: /poc_runtime/jenkins/home
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> We just restarted all the servers hosting my openshift cluster and the
>>>> all data in the path above disappeared. Simply by restarting the host VM!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 18 November 2016 at 16:19, Lionel Orellana <lione...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Thanks Mark
>>>>
>>>> On 18 November 2016 at 15:09, Mark Turansky <mtura...@redhat.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Nov 17, 2016 at 10:41 PM, Lionel Orellana <lione...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> Couple of questions regarding Persistent Volumes, in particular NFS
>>>> ones.
>>>>
>>>> 1) If I have a PV configured with the Retain policy it is not clear to
>>>> me how this PV can be reused after the bound PVC is deleted. Deleting the
>>>> PVC makes the PV status "Released". How do I make it "Available" again
>>>> without losing the data?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You can keep the PVC around longer if you intend to reuse it between
>>>> pods. There is no way for a PV to go from Released to Available again in
>>>> your scenario. You would have to delete and recreate the PV. It's a pointer
>>>> to real storage (the NFS share), so you're just recreating the pointer. The
>>>> data in the NFS volume itself is untouched.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2) Is there anything (e.g. all nodes crashing due to some underlying
>>>> infrastructure failure) that would cause the data in a "Retain" volume to
>>>> be wiped out? We had a problem with all our vmware servers  (where I host
>>>> my openshift POC)  and all my NFS mounted volumes were wiped out. The
>>>> storage guys assure me that nothing at their end caused that and it must
>>>> have been a running process that did it.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Retain" is just a flag to the recycling process to leave that PV alone
>>>> when it's Released. The PV's retention policy wouldn't cause everything to
>>>> be deleted. NFS volumes on the node are no different than if you called
>>>> "mount" yourself. There is nothing inherent in OpenShift itself that is
>>>> running in that share that would wipe out data.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>> Lionel.
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