Re: [QE-users] Phonon calculations with different parallelization

2024-03-21 Thread Paolo Giannozzi

On 3/21/24 11:03, Chirantan Pramanik wrote:


The phonon frequencies are not the same


basically, they are. The differences are small (a few cm-1 at most) and 
mostly affect low-lying frequencies. Self-consistency is not very tight 
(1E-14) and may already explain the observed differences.


Paolo


Regards,
Chirantan


*From:* Paolo Giannozzi 
*Sent:* Thursday, March 21, 2024 11:34 AM
*To:* Quantum ESPRESSO users Forum ; 
Chirantan Pramanik 
*Subject:* Re: [QE-users] Phonon calculations with different 
parallelization

On 3/21/24 03:45, Chirantan Pramanik wrote:


My Phonon calculations provide different frequency values for different 
parallelization on the cluster especially for the total number of 
processors used. Is itpossible or I am doing something very wrong? As 
vibrational frequency is gauge invariat how it can be possible?


Thanks,
Chirantan


It is not possible, with one exception: zero-frequency acoustic modes
that have non-zero frequencies; these can vary a lot, but they are
anyway set to zero by imposing the acoustic sum rule.

It might be a bug, but it is hard to say more without knowing what you
exactly computed on which code version

Paolo
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Re: [QE-users] Phonon calculations with different parallelization

2024-03-21 Thread Paolo Giannozzi

On 3/21/24 03:45, Chirantan Pramanik wrote:


My Phonon calculations provide different frequency values for different 
parallelization on the cluster especially for the total number of 
processors used. Is itpossible or I am doing something very wrong? As 
vibrational frequency is gauge invariat how it can be possible?


Thanks,
Chirantan


It is not possible, with one exception: zero-frequency acoustic modes 
that have non-zero frequencies; these can vary a lot, but they are 
anyway set to zero by imposing the acoustic sum rule.


It might be a bug, but it is hard to say more without knowing what you 
exactly computed on which code version


Paolo
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Univ. Udine, via delle Scienze 206, 33100 Udine Italy, +39-0432-558216
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[QE-users] Phonon calculations with different parallelization

2024-03-20 Thread Chirantan Pramanik
Dear All,

My Phonon calculations provide different frequency values for different 
parallelization on the cluster especially for the total number of processors 
used. Is it possible or I am doing something very wrong? As vibrational 
frequency is gauge invariat how it can be possible?

Thanks,
Chirantan
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